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Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« on: May 28, 2023, 01:20:05 AM »

Offline TheReaLPuba

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…inexperienced coach suppose to do?

He leans on his players more than any other coach probably out of necessity.

Yes there will be more mistakes on both sides.

But you learn more (at least you should) from mistakes and it should help you grow a lot quicker.

As bad as the Cs have played at times and as low as the lows have been the one constant is Coach Joe’s faith.

The dude is one cool customer.

Doesn’t get rattled.

Doesn’t panic.

Supports his players when many would have kept in the dog house.

In the long run I think his players will be instilled with this same faith not just in basketball but in all aspects of life.

Considering the weird and unique coaching situation this organization had to deal with prior to the start of the season…Coach Joe is probably the necessary leader this team needs.

Thank you Coach Joe!

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2023, 02:19:44 AM »

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…inexperienced coach suppose to do?

He leans on his players more than any other coach probably out of necessity.

Yes there will be more mistakes on both sides.

But you learn more (at least you should) from mistakes and it should help you grow a lot quicker.

As bad as the Cs have played at times and as low as the lows have been the one constant is Coach Joe’s faith.

The dude is one cool customer.

Doesn’t get rattled.

Doesn’t panic.

Supports his players when many would have kept in the dog house.

In the long run I think his players will be instilled with this same faith not just in basketball but in all aspects of life.

Considering the weird and unique coaching situation this organization had to deal with prior to the start of the season…Coach Joe is probably the necessary leader this team needs.

Thank you Coach Joe!

What's up Puba?  Did you used to post on the old Celtics message  board on ESPN?

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2023, 02:25:01 AM »

Offline gouki88

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You're right. A coach as green and inexperienced as he should never have been given the reigns in the first place
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2023, 02:49:22 AM »

Offline TheReaLPuba

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…inexperienced coach suppose to do?

He leans on his players more than any other coach probably out of necessity.

Yes there will be more mistakes on both sides.

But you learn more (at least you should) from mistakes and it should help you grow a lot quicker.

As bad as the Cs have played at times and as low as the lows have been the one constant is Coach Joe’s faith.

The dude is one cool customer.

Doesn’t get rattled.

Doesn’t panic.

Supports his players when many would have kept in the dog house.

In the long run I think his players will be instilled with this same faith not just in basketball but in all aspects of life.

Considering the weird and unique coaching situation this organization had to deal with prior to the start of the season…Coach Joe is probably the necessary leader this team needs.

Thank you Coach Joe!

What's up Puba?  Did you used to post on the old Celtics message  board on ESPN?

Yeah didn’t think anyone remembered those boards lol

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2023, 02:50:42 AM »

Offline TheReaLPuba

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You're right. A coach as green and inexperienced as he should never have been given the reigns in the first place

Sure if you had a full off-season to find a solid coach.

We had like a month?

Who would have been a better choice?

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2023, 03:25:48 AM »

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You're right. A coach as green and inexperienced as he should never have been given the reigns in the first place

Sure if you had a full off-season to find a solid coach.

We had like a month?

Who would have been a better choice?
Quinn Snyder, for one.

But rather, the big mistake was making Joe the substantive coach rather than the caretaker. Otherwise we could be looking at some of the good coaches available now, like Nurse or Williams
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2023, 07:33:44 AM »

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You're right. A coach as green and inexperienced as he should never have been given the reigns in the first place

It's true, we lost a much-derided coach that took a team to all seven games in the Conference Semifinals and the Conference Finals and replaced him with a much-derided coach who lead the team to all seven games in the Conference Semifinals and the Conference Finals.

Night and day difference, really.
Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time.

But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2023, 07:36:29 AM »

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You're right. A coach as green and inexperienced as he should never have been given the reigns in the first place

It's true, we lost a much-derided coach that took a team to all seven games in the Conference Semifinals and the Conference Finals and replaced him with a much-derided coach who lead the team to all seven games in the Conference Semifinals and the Conference Finals.

Night and day difference, really.
Ime was cooler, despite not knowing how to wear a facemask
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2023, 07:46:12 AM »

Offline Kernewek

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You're right. A coach as green and inexperienced as he should never have been given the reigns in the first place

It's true, we lost a much-derided coach that took a team to all seven games in the Conference Semifinals and the Conference Finals and replaced him with a much-derided coach who lead the team to all seven games in the Conference Semifinals and the Conference Finals.

Night and day difference, really.
Ime was cooler, despite not knowing how to wear a facemask
No argument from me there.  ;D
Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time.

But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2023, 08:18:27 AM »

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Joe has improved his timeout calling last few games.
With this group - with short attention span - you have to keep your finger on the timeout button at all times.


Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2023, 09:07:17 AM »

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Some of his flukes and mistakes were so obvious that just as simple fans as we are, we thought we even could do better in game decisions than him. His arrogant attitude with the medias sometimes, esp with the timeout question came back big to burn him. At 3-0 we could argue he would never coach an NBA team again. But we forgot many things I guess...
.... Putting such a blue coach for a contender seemed dumb, but the timing (2 moonth before the season, with 0 great coach available -no Nurse or Williams-), the fact that something passed last year and we wanted some stability maybe imposed this choice from Stevens. We already lost Hardy, who was the ideal replacement (and I really think we underestimate the global level of our staff last year not just Ime -our assistants were the best of the league).
Tatum like Mazz because he still have some very good points about modern basketball, he can still instigate some confidence to the team and was able to capitalise on some of the CBS and Ime identity and tactics, adding his own view. On the importance of the circulation of the ball that lead to great 3s and the importance of it to won games, he is right, even if I dislike this modern part of the game. For timeouts or rotations he seemed to change, he admited humbly all his mistakes and took the heet on his own. And honnestly, many much more experimented coach make also dumb decision (or seeminingly dump).

I think next year we bring a really experimented number 2 and improve our staff to help him If he is able to continue to listen, to correct himself, he can be a good coach for this great team. I think if we didn't bring back this year a more expermienced n2 was first because Stoudemire did great job also, but morely because Stevens didn't wanted to put a potential n1 on the choose of such a blue coach. Stevens is smart and evaluate as well the game as the people who understand some part of it. He saw the potential -and the limit but trusted Mazz to correct himself-


So let's go C's, let's go Mazz, I couldn't hear more people who want(ed) us loose just to fire Mazzula.
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Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2023, 10:33:42 AM »

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This was the type of game no one said the Celtics could win. Grind it out, not shooting the 3 well ect. This was more impressive as a win than game 5 IMO. It showed them they can win games if their shot isn’t falling. Play defense.

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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2023, 02:04:49 PM »

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This was the type of game no one said the Celtics could win. Grind it out, not shooting the 3 well ect. This was more impressive as a win than game 5 IMO. It showed them they can win games if their shot isn’t falling. Play defense.

In fairness to the players, they didn't implement the "shoot threes no matter what" offense, nor did they deemphasize defense.

Until last week, Joe was happy trying to outscore teams 120-118, and he criticized the team's offense when they were performing elitely but without enough three point shots.


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Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2023, 02:44:07 PM »

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This was the type of game no one said the Celtics could win. Grind it out, not shooting the 3 well ect. This was more impressive as a win than game 5 IMO. It showed them they can win games if their shot isn’t falling. Play defense.

In fairness to the players, they didn't implement the "shoot threes no matter what" offense, nor did they deemphasize defense.

Until last week, Joe was happy trying to outscore teams 120-118, and he criticized the team's offense when they were performing elitely but without enough three point shots.

What he often criticizes our offense it's more about lack of pace and space and how it impacts ball movement which in turn lead to decreased three point shot opportunities or to bad three point attempts at that, and a stagnant offense which then carries over to defensive lapses. So in the inverse, just as a quick glimpse when presented with 3-point attempts he can more often than not deduce that we may have had issue with our pace and spacing or not.

Whether we agree with it or not, part of why he focuses his discourse about offense is because he sees the relationship of how when we do poorly on offense how it affects us negatively defensively, though I too wish he emphasized defense more.

Re: Honestly what is a 34 year old….
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2023, 05:48:17 PM »

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This was the type of game no one said the Celtics could win. Grind it out, not shooting the 3 well ect. This was more impressive as a win than game 5 IMO. It showed them they can win games if their shot isn’t falling. Play defense.

In fairness to the players, they didn't implement the "shoot threes no matter what" offense, nor did they deemphasize defense.

Until last week, Joe was happy trying to outscore teams 120-118, and he criticized the team's offense when they were performing elitely but without enough three point shots.

I think Joe did not think the defensive identity would get lost from last season to this season…he probably felt he was just adding on to the offense to make this team more well rounded but the problem with this team is when the shots don’t fall their defense just looks terrible…the awareness just goes to dust.