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Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #75 on: May 29, 2023, 10:50:33 PM »

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Trade brown for jalen green
Trade smart for a miles turner or Wenden Carter type big
Get misic rights for something
Trade brogdon for something healthier
Trade g Williams and Pritchard for picks

Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #76 on: May 30, 2023, 02:45:30 AM »

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Going to be a very long offseason filled with lots of Brown trade ideas. I am going to collate a few of my favourites and post below.

Portland
Boston gets: Damian Lillard + Trendon Watford

Portland gets: Jaylen Brown + Marcus Smart + Payton Pritchard + 2 1st round picks

Boston team is as below:
Lillard / Brogdon
White / Hauser
Tatum / Gallinari
Horford / G Williams / Watford
R Williams / Muscala / Kornet

Houston
Boston gets: Alperen Sengun + Tari Eason + Kenyon Martin Jr.

Houston gets: Jaylen Brown

Boston team is as below:
White / Pritchard
Smart / Brogdon
Tatum / Eason
Horford / Gallinari / G Williams
Sengun / R Williams / G Williams

Atlanta
Boston gets: De'Andre Hunter + Bogdan Bogdanovic + Saddiq Bey + Wendell Carter Jr

Atlanta gets: Jaylen Brown + Gary Harris

Orlando gets: Marcus Smart + Jalen Johnson

Boston team is as below:
White / Pritchard
Bogdanovic / Brogdon
Tatum / Bey
Horford / Hunter / Gallinari
Carter Jr. / R Williams / G Williams



These just spring to mind immediately.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #77 on: May 30, 2023, 10:51:05 AM »

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Too much for Lillard.  Not enough from Houston.  Atlanta isn't a horrible deal.

Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #78 on: May 30, 2023, 11:02:02 AM »

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Going to be a very long offseason filled with lots of Brown trade ideas. I am going to collate a few of my favourites and post below.

Portland
Boston gets: Damian Lillard + Trendon Watford

Portland gets: Jaylen Brown + Marcus Smart + Payton Pritchard + 2 1st round picks

Boston team is as below:
Lillard / Brogdon
White / Hauser
Tatum / Gallinari
Horford / G Williams / Watford
R Williams / Muscala / Kornet

Houston
Boston gets: Alperen Sengun + Tari Eason + Kenyon Martin Jr.

Houston gets: Jaylen Brown

Boston team is as below:
White / Pritchard
Smart / Brogdon
Tatum / Eason
Horford / Gallinari / G Williams
Sengun / R Williams / G Williams

Atlanta
Boston gets: De'Andre Hunter + Bogdan Bogdanovic + Saddiq Bey + Wendell Carter Jr

Atlanta gets: Jaylen Brown + Gary Harris

Orlando gets: Marcus Smart + Jalen Johnson

Boston team is as below:
White / Pritchard
Bogdanovic / Brogdon
Tatum / Bey
Horford / Hunter / Gallinari
Carter Jr. / R Williams / G Williams



These just spring to mind immediately.

The last two deals are legitimately awful for Boston. Like they'd be better off just trading him for draft picks because at least you could, in theory, flip those for a future star maybe.

The first is not happening because Brown will never agree to re-sign on a Portland team that doesn't have Lillard, so Portland isnt doing that trade.


Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #79 on: May 30, 2023, 11:03:49 AM »

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I'd prefer Beal to Lilliard at this point.

Boston Receives: Bradley Beal, #8
Boston Sends: Jaylen Brown, Payton Pritchard, Luke Kornet, future 1st (not sure what we can trade atp)

Portland Receives: Jaylen Brown
Portland Sends: Anfernee Simons, #3

Washington Receives: Anfernee Simons, #3, Payton Pritchard, Luke Kornet, future 1st from Boston
Washington Sends: Bradley Beal, #8

Then we could flip one of Brogdon/Smart/White for a big.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #80 on: May 30, 2023, 11:06:09 AM »

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Agree that’s too much for Lillard, especially given the age difference.

I think a Towns trade should be considered, too. Not sold on him, but I like the idea better than giving an incomplete player like JB the largest contract in NBA history.

And I think the Minny trade could make sense, too. Towns doesn’t fit alongside Gobert, and JB would seemingly fit next to Edwards as a 3 (and is seemingly close to Edwards). For us, Towns provides a versatile big either as a 4 or smaller ball 5, and he fits Tatum’s timeline.

I think a Cleveland Garland swap could make sense for both sides, too, as well as Siakam being a possibility.

All this will be predicated on JB being potentially interested in the destination, though.

Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #81 on: May 30, 2023, 11:12:39 AM »

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Agree that’s too much for Lillard, especially given the age difference.

I think a Towns trade should be considered, too. Not sold on him, but I like the idea better than giving an incomplete player like JB the largest contract in NBA history.

And I think the Minny trade could make sense, too. Towns doesn’t fit alongside Gobert, and JB would seemingly fit next to Edwards as a 3 (and is seemingly close to Edwards). For us, Towns provides a versatile big either as a 4 or smaller ball 5, and he fits Tatum’s timeline.

I think a Cleveland Garland swap could make sense for both sides, too, as well as Siakam being a possibility.

All this will be predicated on JB being potentially interested in the destination, though.

I'd be interested in a KAT swap because I think JT with an elite pick & pop big could be something. Towns is also an underrated playmaker. I just wonder if JB would fit next to Edwards?
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #82 on: May 30, 2023, 11:30:34 AM »

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Last night my initial reaction was that JB needed to be shopped, I have since come down from that. This team needs some minor tweaks to the roster and Mazzula either needs to be replaced for reinforced with a veteran capable coaching staff.

As for a potential JB trade I feel any discussion has to start and end with how it effects Tatum short and long term. With that in mind a JB for Beal based trade is the only plausible trade I would entertain. My trade proposal that would likely be shot down by the Wizards would be...

Celtics get: Beal, Krisper, #8 and #42

Wizards get: Brown, Brogdon, and #35


At #8 I would be in this order looking at C Whitmore, J Walker, and T Hendricks.






 
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #83 on: May 30, 2023, 11:41:04 AM »

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I would rather switch out Kuzma for Kispert  then draft Taylor Hendricks with the 8 pick  and let them keep 42 but I doubt they would do it.

I am really in the keep Brown camp though.

Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #84 on: May 30, 2023, 11:45:02 AM »

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Agree that’s too much for Lillard, especially given the age difference.

I think a Towns trade should be considered, too. Not sold on him, but I like the idea better than giving an incomplete player like JB the largest contract in NBA history.

And I think the Minny trade could make sense, too. Towns doesn’t fit alongside Gobert, and JB would seemingly fit next to Edwards as a 3 (and is seemingly close to Edwards). For us, Towns provides a versatile big either as a 4 or smaller ball 5, and he fits Tatum’s timeline.

I think a Cleveland Garland swap could make sense for both sides, too, as well as Siakam being a possibility.

All this will be predicated on JB being potentially interested in the destination, though.

Towns is a deal Minneosta might do, because they can't really move Gobert, and Towns and Gobert just clearly don't fit. I just hate that move for Boston. He is a complete nothing on defense, he turns it over more than Brown, is soft, and has just never demonstrated to any degree that he contributes to winning. Also, he's on the EXACT SAME CONTRACT AS BROWN. Literally dollar for dollar the first 4 years. If Boston is moving Brown for money reasons it 100% will not be for KAT, because that deal solves nothing.

Siakam for Brown makes basketball sense for Toronto, but for contract reasons neither team would do it. With Brown Boston at least has the supermax to offer him, with Siakam they don't have that ace in the whole. He's a walk risk, as is Brown for Toronto. Also, i don't love the fit of Siakam on the team. His three is his weakest skill, and we need shooters to space for Tatum. Also, he's older than Brown. Its a move for the sake of a move.

Garland is under a 25% max contract for five years. Cleveland isn't trading that for 1 year of Brown unless Brown agrees to an extension pre-trade, and I don't think he would. Even then Brown and Mitchell are more redundant than Mitchell and Garland so I don't see it for the Cavs. Also, I don't love small guards come playoff time.

I don't know, these guys don't solve any real issue for the c's, and in some cases create new issues. If the trade is KAT/Garland/Beal/Siakam or guys on that level I'm keeping Brown.

The Lillard idea I at least get. That guy solves your late game offense problem, lets Tatum move off ball more. It makes some sense at least even if I think there's no chance it happens.

Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #85 on: May 30, 2023, 11:58:06 AM »

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Agree that’s too much for Lillard, especially given the age difference.

I think a Towns trade should be considered, too. Not sold on him, but I like the idea better than giving an incomplete player like JB the largest contract in NBA history.

And I think the Minny trade could make sense, too. Towns doesn’t fit alongside Gobert, and JB would seemingly fit next to Edwards as a 3 (and is seemingly close to Edwards). For us, Towns provides a versatile big either as a 4 or smaller ball 5, and he fits Tatum’s timeline.

I think a Cleveland Garland swap could make sense for both sides, too, as well as Siakam being a possibility.

All this will be predicated on JB being potentially interested in the destination, though.

Towns is a deal Minneosta might do, because they can't really move Gobert, and Towns and Gobert just clearly don't fit. I just hate that move for Boston. He is a complete nothing on defense, he turns it over more than Brown, is soft, and has just never demonstrated to any degree that he contributes to winning. Also, he's on the EXACT SAME CONTRACT AS BROWN. Literally dollar for dollar the first 4 years. If Boston is moving Brown for money reasons it 100% will not be for KAT, because that deal solves nothing.

Siakam for Brown makes basketball sense for Toronto, but for contract reasons neither team would do it. With Brown Boston at least has the supermax to offer him, with Siakam they don't have that ace in the whole. He's a walk risk, as is Brown for Toronto. Also, i don't love the fit of Siakam on the team. His three is his weakest skill, and we need shooters to space for Tatum. Also, he's older than Brown. Its a move for the sake of a move.

Garland is under a 25% max contract for five years. Cleveland isn't trading that for 1 year of Brown unless Brown agrees to an extension pre-trade, and I don't think he would. Even then Brown and Mitchell are more redundant than Mitchell and Garland so I don't see it for the Cavs. Also, I don't love small guards come playoff time.

I don't know, these guys don't solve any real issue for the c's, and in some cases create new issues. If the trade is KAT/Garland/Beal/Siakam or guys on that level I'm keeping Brown.

The Lillard idea I at least get. That guy solves your late game offense problem, lets Tatum move off ball more. It makes some sense at least even if I think there's no chance it happens.
Towns can't sign for 35% max though, while Brown can.  Neither is worth 35% max, but Boston has to offer it to Brown, and can't to Towns.  That is where money is saved.

Brown isn't a winning player for Boston.  You just need to come to terms with that.  Now maybe Towns or Siakam or Garland or whomever also is not a winning player for Boston, but maybe they are. We know Brown isn't. Thst is why a change is needed.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #86 on: May 30, 2023, 12:02:01 PM »

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Jaylen brown was terrible last night but other than Derrick white who showed up for the Celtics?

Right.

Nobody.

Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #87 on: May 30, 2023, 12:04:35 PM »

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Agree that’s too much for Lillard, especially given the age difference.

I think a Towns trade should be considered, too. Not sold on him, but I like the idea better than giving an incomplete player like JB the largest contract in NBA history.

And I think the Minny trade could make sense, too. Towns doesn’t fit alongside Gobert, and JB would seemingly fit next to Edwards as a 3 (and is seemingly close to Edwards). For us, Towns provides a versatile big either as a 4 or smaller ball 5, and he fits Tatum’s timeline.

I think a Cleveland Garland swap could make sense for both sides, too, as well as Siakam being a possibility.

All this will be predicated on JB being potentially interested in the destination, though.

Towns is a deal Minneosta might do, because they can't really move Gobert, and Towns and Gobert just clearly don't fit. I just hate that move for Boston. He is a complete nothing on defense, he turns it over more than Brown, is soft, and has just never demonstrated to any degree that he contributes to winning. Also, he's on the EXACT SAME CONTRACT AS BROWN. Literally dollar for dollar the first 4 years. If Boston is moving Brown for money reasons it 100% will not be for KAT, because that deal solves nothing.

Siakam for Brown makes basketball sense for Toronto, but for contract reasons neither team would do it. With Brown Boston at least has the supermax to offer him, with Siakam they don't have that ace in the whole. He's a walk risk, as is Brown for Toronto. Also, i don't love the fit of Siakam on the team. His three is his weakest skill, and we need shooters to space for Tatum. Also, he's older than Brown. Its a move for the sake of a move.

Garland is under a 25% max contract for five years. Cleveland isn't trading that for 1 year of Brown unless Brown agrees to an extension pre-trade, and I don't think he would. Even then Brown and Mitchell are more redundant than Mitchell and Garland so I don't see it for the Cavs. Also, I don't love small guards come playoff time.

I don't know, these guys don't solve any real issue for the c's, and in some cases create new issues. If the trade is KAT/Garland/Beal/Siakam or guys on that level I'm keeping Brown.

The Lillard idea I at least get. That guy solves your late game offense problem, lets Tatum move off ball more. It makes some sense at least even if I think there's no chance it happens.
Towns can't sign for 35% max though, while Brown can.  Neither is worth 35% max, but Boston has to offer it to Brown, and can't to Towns.  That is where money is saved.

Brown isn't a winning player for Boston.  You just need to come to terms with that.  Now maybe Towns or Siakam or Garland or whomever also is not a winning player for Boston, but maybe they are. We know Brown isn't. Thst is why a change is needed.

You're right, he can't. BECAUSE HE ALREADY HAS. Towns signed the same super max last off season, it kicks in 24-25 same as Brown. It is one year shorter than Browns would be, otherwise exact same money.

I think Brown is winning player because they win with him and when Tatum and Brown are on the court they've generally been excellent. But we've been over that already, so agree to disagree.

Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #88 on: May 30, 2023, 12:19:45 PM »

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Agree that’s too much for Lillard, especially given the age difference.

I think a Towns trade should be considered, too. Not sold on him, but I like the idea better than giving an incomplete player like JB the largest contract in NBA history.

And I think the Minny trade could make sense, too. Towns doesn’t fit alongside Gobert, and JB would seemingly fit next to Edwards as a 3 (and is seemingly close to Edwards). For us, Towns provides a versatile big either as a 4 or smaller ball 5, and he fits Tatum’s timeline.

I think a Cleveland Garland swap could make sense for both sides, too, as well as Siakam being a possibility.

All this will be predicated on JB being potentially interested in the destination, though.

Towns is a deal Minneosta might do, because they can't really move Gobert, and Towns and Gobert just clearly don't fit. I just hate that move for Boston. He is a complete nothing on defense, he turns it over more than Brown, is soft, and has just never demonstrated to any degree that he contributes to winning. Also, he's on the EXACT SAME CONTRACT AS BROWN. Literally dollar for dollar the first 4 years. If Boston is moving Brown for money reasons it 100% will not be for KAT, because that deal solves nothing.

Siakam for Brown makes basketball sense for Toronto, but for contract reasons neither team would do it. With Brown Boston at least has the supermax to offer him, with Siakam they don't have that ace in the whole. He's a walk risk, as is Brown for Toronto. Also, i don't love the fit of Siakam on the team. His three is his weakest skill, and we need shooters to space for Tatum. Also, he's older than Brown. Its a move for the sake of a move.

Garland is under a 25% max contract for five years. Cleveland isn't trading that for 1 year of Brown unless Brown agrees to an extension pre-trade, and I don't think he would. Even then Brown and Mitchell are more redundant than Mitchell and Garland so I don't see it for the Cavs. Also, I don't love small guards come playoff time.

I don't know, these guys don't solve any real issue for the c's, and in some cases create new issues. If the trade is KAT/Garland/Beal/Siakam or guys on that level I'm keeping Brown.

The Lillard idea I at least get. That guy solves your late game offense problem, lets Tatum move off ball more. It makes some sense at least even if I think there's no chance it happens.
Towns can't sign for 35% max though, while Brown can.  Neither is worth 35% max, but Boston has to offer it to Brown, and can't to Towns.  That is where money is saved.

Brown isn't a winning player for Boston.  You just need to come to terms with that.  Now maybe Towns or Siakam or Garland or whomever also is not a winning player for Boston, but maybe they are. We know Brown isn't. Thst is why a change is needed.

You're right, he can't. BECAUSE HE ALREADY HAS. Towns signed the same super max last off season, it kicks in 24-25 same as Brown. It is one year shorter than Browns would be, otherwise exact same money.

I think Brown is winning player because they win with him and when Tatum and Brown are on the court they've generally been excellent. But we've been over that already, so agree to disagree.
Towns signed a 4 year 224 million extension.  Brown's is 5 years, 295 million.  Fair amount different.

The numbers don't lie. Boston is better when Brown isn't on the floor. That is the opposite of a winning player.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade Ideas
« Reply #89 on: May 30, 2023, 12:25:22 PM »

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Agree that’s too much for Lillard, especially given the age difference.

I think a Towns trade should be considered, too. Not sold on him, but I like the idea better than giving an incomplete player like JB the largest contract in NBA history.

And I think the Minny trade could make sense, too. Towns doesn’t fit alongside Gobert, and JB would seemingly fit next to Edwards as a 3 (and is seemingly close to Edwards). For us, Towns provides a versatile big either as a 4 or smaller ball 5, and he fits Tatum’s timeline.

I think a Cleveland Garland swap could make sense for both sides, too, as well as Siakam being a possibility.

All this will be predicated on JB being potentially interested in the destination, though.

Towns is a deal Minneosta might do, because they can't really move Gobert, and Towns and Gobert just clearly don't fit. I just hate that move for Boston. He is a complete nothing on defense, he turns it over more than Brown, is soft, and has just never demonstrated to any degree that he contributes to winning. Also, he's on the EXACT SAME CONTRACT AS BROWN. Literally dollar for dollar the first 4 years. If Boston is moving Brown for money reasons it 100% will not be for KAT, because that deal solves nothing.

Siakam for Brown makes basketball sense for Toronto, but for contract reasons neither team would do it. With Brown Boston at least has the supermax to offer him, with Siakam they don't have that ace in the whole. He's a walk risk, as is Brown for Toronto. Also, i don't love the fit of Siakam on the team. His three is his weakest skill, and we need shooters to space for Tatum. Also, he's older than Brown. Its a move for the sake of a move.

Garland is under a 25% max contract for five years. Cleveland isn't trading that for 1 year of Brown unless Brown agrees to an extension pre-trade, and I don't think he would. Even then Brown and Mitchell are more redundant than Mitchell and Garland so I don't see it for the Cavs. Also, I don't love small guards come playoff time.

I don't know, these guys don't solve any real issue for the c's, and in some cases create new issues. If the trade is KAT/Garland/Beal/Siakam or guys on that level I'm keeping Brown.

The Lillard idea I at least get. That guy solves your late game offense problem, lets Tatum move off ball more. It makes some sense at least even if I think there's no chance it happens.
Towns can't sign for 35% max though, while Brown can.  Neither is worth 35% max, but Boston has to offer it to Brown, and can't to Towns.  That is where money is saved.

Brown isn't a winning player for Boston.  You just need to come to terms with that.  Now maybe Towns or Siakam or Garland or whomever also is not a winning player for Boston, but maybe they are. We know Brown isn't. Thst is why a change is needed.

You're right, he can't. BECAUSE HE ALREADY HAS. Towns signed the same super max last off season, it kicks in 24-25 same as Brown. It is one year shorter than Browns would be, otherwise exact same money.

I think Brown is winning player because they win with him and when Tatum and Brown are on the court they've generally been excellent. But we've been over that already, so agree to disagree.
Towns signed a 4 year 224 million extension.  Brown's is 5 years, 295 million.  Fair amount different.

The numbers don't lie. Boston is better when Brown isn't on the floor. That is the opposite of a winning player.

Its literally just the last year that's different. Money is exactly the same the first 4. And, not for nothing, but that's different then saying "KAT can't sign the 35% max, Brown can."

And again, we've been over this. Some years Boston has been better with Brown off the floor, some years its been roughly the same, some years they've been better with him on (as recently as LAST year). I care more about how the team plays when both Tatum and Brown are on. Numbers there are pretty good. It's all a mixed bag. This year +4.2 Net rating together in playoffs.

Team overall: +3.2
Lebron/Davis: +2.6
Jimmy/Bam: +3.6
Harden/Embiid: -8.6
KD/Booker: -.2
Randle/Brunson: 1.5
Any two nuggets: +7-14

Look, i get where you are coming from. I really do. Your main point isn't crazy or anything. I just don't think this is the summer for a Brown trade for reasons I've been over. 
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