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Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #285 on: May 28, 2023, 03:40:48 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Everything I'm hearing is like the heat have it in the bag.

I'm 100% sure if we lose, it won't be due to lack of effort or overconfidence.

They know winning this will immortalize them in NBA history. Only way they lose is if they have another terrible night shooting.

Imo, I think tatum does his thing and the game isn't close*.

*provided we don't get a Tony Brothers special
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Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #286 on: May 28, 2023, 03:44:07 PM »

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Tony brothers is going to be on the whistle isn’t he?

Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #287 on: May 28, 2023, 03:47:44 PM »

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Tony brothers is going to be on the whistle isn’t he?

Hope not.

FWIW, after Game 3 last year in the ECF, it went Foster-Davis-Zarba-Foster. Foster went twice in the final 4 games including Game 7. So far after Game 3 this year, it's Foster-Davis-Zarba. Maybe pattern holds? Hope so.

If it's Brothers then ugh, Miami will have a ref advantage tomorrow night.
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Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #288 on: May 28, 2023, 03:48:23 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Elimination game for both teams, desperation will be high. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Jimmy is due for a big game. This Miami team has been underestimated all playoffs. They have to show the same commitment to defense whether they shoot 40% or 20% from 3. I do think we have their measure but it won’t be easy.
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Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #289 on: May 28, 2023, 04:34:09 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Elimination game for both teams, desperation will be high. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Jimmy is due for a big game. This Miami team has been underestimated all playoffs. They have to show the same commitment to defense whether they shoot 40% or 20% from 3. I do think we have their measure but it won’t be easy.
Is he?  Rounding to whole numbers for simplicity's sake.


Last playoffs he averaged 27/7/4, against us it was 25/7/3.

This postseason he's averaging 28/7/5 and 24/8/6 so far in the ECF.

He had two massive games against us last year, and it's true he hasn't had one of those yet, but it's also true that he hasn't had an 8 or a 6 point performance either.
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Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #290 on: May 28, 2023, 04:50:03 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Elimination game for both teams, desperation will be high. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Jimmy is due for a big game. This Miami team has been underestimated all playoffs. They have to show the same commitment to defense whether they shoot 40% or 20% from 3. I do think we have their measure but it won’t be easy.
Is he?  Rounding to whole numbers for simplicity's sake.


Last playoffs he averaged 27/7/4, against us it was 25/7/3.

This postseason he's averaging 28/7/5 and 24/8/6 so far in the ECF.

He had two massive games against us last year, and it's true he hasn't had one of those yet, but it's also true that he hasn't had an 8 or a 6 point performance either.

He's due to shoot better than 5-21 I think.
Any odd typos are because I suck at typing on an iPhone :D


Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #291 on: May 28, 2023, 04:57:20 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Elimination game for both teams, desperation will be high. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Jimmy is due for a big game. This Miami team has been underestimated all playoffs. They have to show the same commitment to defense whether they shoot 40% or 20% from 3. I do think we have their measure but it won’t be easy.
Is he?  Rounding to whole numbers for simplicity's sake.


Last playoffs he averaged 27/7/4, against us it was 25/7/3.

This postseason he's averaging 28/7/5 and 24/8/6 so far in the ECF.

He had two massive games against us last year, and it's true he hasn't had one of those yet, but it's also true that he hasn't had an 8 or a 6 point performance either.

He's due to shoot better than 5-21 I think.

And Boston is due to shoot better then 7-32 from 3. Just control bam. When he goes for less than 20
They lose

Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #292 on: May 28, 2023, 05:45:09 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Elimination game for both teams, desperation will be high. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Jimmy is due for a big game. This Miami team has been underestimated all playoffs. They have to show the same commitment to defense whether they shoot 40% or 20% from 3. I do think we have their measure but it won’t be easy.
Is he?  Rounding to whole numbers for simplicity's sake.


Last playoffs he averaged 27/7/4, against us it was 25/7/3.

This postseason he's averaging 28/7/5 and 24/8/6 so far in the ECF.

He had two massive games against us last year, and it's true he hasn't had one of those yet, but it's also true that he hasn't had an 8 or a 6 point performance either.

He's due to shoot better than 5-21 I think.
Quite possible! He could shoot 50% from the field like he did in Game 5.
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Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #293 on: May 28, 2023, 05:51:54 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Elimination game for both teams, desperation will be high. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Jimmy is due for a big game. This Miami team has been underestimated all playoffs. They have to show the same commitment to defense whether they shoot 40% or 20% from 3. I do think we have their measure but it won’t be easy.
Is he?  Rounding to whole numbers for simplicity's sake.


Last playoffs he averaged 27/7/4, against us it was 25/7/3.

This postseason he's averaging 28/7/5 and 24/8/6 so far in the ECF.

He had two massive games against us last year, and it's true he hasn't had one of those yet, but it's also true that he hasn't had an 8 or a 6 point performance either.

He's due to shoot better than 5-21 I think.
I could see him going into his shell like he often does (for zero criticism)
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #294 on: May 28, 2023, 05:55:15 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Elimination game for both teams, desperation will be high. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Jimmy is due for a big game. This Miami team has been underestimated all playoffs. They have to show the same commitment to defense whether they shoot 40% or 20% from 3. I do think we have their measure but it won’t be easy.
Is he?  Rounding to whole numbers for simplicity's sake.


Last playoffs he averaged 27/7/4, against us it was 25/7/3.

This postseason he's averaging 28/7/5 and 24/8/6 so far in the ECF.

He had two massive games against us last year, and it's true he hasn't had one of those yet, but it's also true that he hasn't had an 8 or a 6 point performance either.

He's due to shoot better than 5-21 I think.
I could see him going into his shell like he often does (for zero criticism)

He's getting plenty of criticism from his own fans on Miami's subreddit in any case  :police:

Any odd typos are because I suck at typing on an iPhone :D


Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #295 on: May 28, 2023, 05:55:54 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Elimination game for both teams, desperation will be high. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Jimmy is due for a big game. This Miami team has been underestimated all playoffs. They have to show the same commitment to defense whether they shoot 40% or 20% from 3. I do think we have their measure but it won’t be easy.
Is he?  Rounding to whole numbers for simplicity's sake.


Last playoffs he averaged 27/7/4, against us it was 25/7/3.

This postseason he's averaging 28/7/5 and 24/8/6 so far in the ECF.

He had two massive games against us last year, and it's true he hasn't had one of those yet, but it's also true that he hasn't had an 8 or a 6 point performance either.

He's due to shoot better than 5-21 I think.
I could see him going into his shell like he often does (for zero criticism)

He's getting plenty of criticism from his own fans on Miami's subreddit in any case  :police:


Finally. Been a long time coming after all the misguided mythologising
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #296 on: May 28, 2023, 05:57:42 PM »

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I got my hopes up after Game 4, and I thought once we won Game 5 that we'd win the series.

But, I don't love the narrative that the Heat have no chance in Game 7.  I hope that the team doesn't by into that, especially after essentially losing Game 6.  They need to treat themselves like underdogs, because I don't think Miami will quit.

Elimination game for both teams, desperation will be high. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Jimmy is due for a big game. This Miami team has been underestimated all playoffs. They have to show the same commitment to defense whether they shoot 40% or 20% from 3. I do think we have their measure but it won’t be easy.
Is he?  Rounding to whole numbers for simplicity's sake.


Last playoffs he averaged 27/7/4, against us it was 25/7/3.

This postseason he's averaging 28/7/5 and 24/8/6 so far in the ECF.

He had two massive games against us last year, and it's true he hasn't had one of those yet, but it's also true that he hasn't had an 8 or a 6 point performance either.

He's due to shoot better than 5-21 I think.
I could see him going into his shell like he often does (for zero criticism)

He's getting plenty of criticism from his own fans on Miami's subreddit in any case  :police:



Like I've been saying, I like Butler, but it always baffles me when he does have some bad games but the media doesn't criticize him for it. If Tatum, Doncic, Embiid, AD, etc. etc. had these bad stretches they'd be getting absolutely shredded by the national media. Not Butler though, he escapes all of it it seems. Took 3 games of mediocre play for people to finally criticize him more. Even last year's ECF, he was great Games 6-7, but disappeared in the middle of it too.

Btw, Butler is 33 and hasn't won a ring either. People hold that against the Jays but they are still 25-26 respectively, while Butler is 33 and hasn't won yet. If he's really this alpha bulldog (like MJ), why hasn't he won anything to date?
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Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #297 on: May 28, 2023, 05:59:54 PM »

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We shouldn't be scared of butler going off, it's them who should be worried about Game 7 tatum.

Al is bound to break out of his slump at some point.  Hopefully that's tomorrow.
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Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #298 on: May 28, 2023, 06:05:00 PM »

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Butler’s a lazy player. Yeah I said it.

Re: Do you still believe?
« Reply #299 on: May 28, 2023, 06:14:14 PM »

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I never understand when people say someone like butler is "due for a big game" That's also assuming the Celtics defense had nothing to do with Butler/bams performances and it's just them missing shots.

I think it's kind of disingenuous.