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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #975 on: May 28, 2023, 11:30:05 AM »

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But why did Joe set up a play for a 3pt shot knowing that we were down by 1 and we were shooting like 20% from 3? It's like all ATO that he set up in crunch time were always for a 3 pt shot.

Joe needs to improve on this part.

Probebly because it’s hard to throw the ball inside close to the rim when the other team is preventing you from doing so with 3 seconds to go. If you look at the replay the only places that are open are usually around the perimeter. Players have to run to the perimeter to even get the ball. Bam was tightly guarding JAylen who could have shot a 20 foot turnaround fadeaway but it would have been a low percentage shot. I suppose someone could have cut to the basket but Miami were sweating on that and it would have been a high risk pass. The fact thst there were 3 seconds to go really limited our options. If it was easy to get an open 2 pointer close to the rim I’m sure we would see plenty more buzzer beaters  :police:
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #976 on: May 28, 2023, 01:21:45 PM »

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Joe tried to get fired , he did his best.  Maybe he try to emulate Smart ?

DWhite saved his coach to coach another game.

Joe is walking a tightrope…..thread is really thin

Team wins despite his presence.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #977 on: May 28, 2023, 04:10:23 PM »

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But why did Joe set up a play for a 3pt shot knowing that we were down by 1 and we were shooting like 20% from 3? It's like all ATO that he set up in crunch time were always for a 3 pt shot.

Joe needs to improve on this part.

That 3pt shot was probably option D, E, or F.

Jaylen with a midrange catch and spin or Tatum catching the ball at the 3pt line but going downhill with momentum (with the option to drive in or pull up) were probably options A, B, and C.

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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #978 on: May 28, 2023, 05:53:43 PM »

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But why did Joe set up a play for a 3pt shot knowing that we were down by 1 and we were shooting like 20% from 3? It's like all ATO that he set up in crunch time were always for a 3 pt shot.

Joe needs to improve on this part.

That 3pt shot was probably option D, E, or F.

Jaylen with a midrange catch and spin or Tatum catching the ball at the 3pt line but going downhill with momentum (with the option to drive in or pull up) were probably options A, B, and C.

Yes, and Miami did a good job of closing options A, B and C off with 3 seconds on the clock.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #979 on: May 29, 2023, 08:15:28 AM »

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Wow.  That last three seconds was called "winning in spite of Joe", haha.

First he challenges a clear foul that was called a 2PT shot.  Under review, the Heat get three FTs.

Then, the ATO call to Smart was terrible, and predictably he missed.

Thank God for White.  Holy holy.

Wouldn't the refs have reviewed it anyways to see if it was a 2 or 3?  The challenge was just used because he had it, and was going to call a timeout anyways.

I would guess Tatum was option A, but Struss went to double him (though didn't look like a particularly good play to set up Tatum.).

The “challenge”/review actually was a blessing in disguise.

It gave the C’s more time by putting 3.0 sec on the clock.

Had the floor call stood to would be 2 free throws for Butler and all likelihood OT and with the way the Cs were playing offensively against their zone defense I had no confidence with an OT win lol
It wasn't a blessing in disguise, it was just a blessing. As was said before, the refs were always going to review for the number of free throws. Using the challenge there gave the C's more time and an outside shot at overturning the call. It was a no-brainer to use the challenge. Which is to say, it was a no-brainer for Mazzulla but not for a lot of us fans who don't know the rules and jump to conclusions.

But why did Joe set up a play for a 3pt shot knowing that we were down by 1 and we were shooting like 20% from 3? It's like all ATO that he set up in crunch time were always for a 3 pt shot.

Joe needs to improve on this part.

That 3pt shot was probably option D, E, or F.

Jaylen with a midrange catch and spin or Tatum catching the ball at the 3pt line but going downhill with momentum (with the option to drive in or pull up) were probably options A, B, and C.

Yes, and Miami did a good job of closing options A, B and C off with 3 seconds on the clock.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #980 on: May 29, 2023, 10:18:08 PM »

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Not sure where to start on this one. 

The bad rotations in the 1st quarter.  Once Tatum was subbed out our bench players got destroyed.  Joe watched from the sidelines and let it happen.  No adjustment.

The stupid drop defense.  Left Miami's shooters wide open on the 3 point line.  Al caught in no man's land multiple times.

Failure to make adjustments on offense.  Continued to let Brown try to initiate plays.

And more.

Fire Joe.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #981 on: May 29, 2023, 10:24:09 PM »

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Not sure where to start on this one. 

The bad rotations in the 1st quarter.  Once Tatum was subbed out our bench players got destroyed.  Joe watched from the sidelines and let it happen.  No adjustment.

The stupid drop defense.  Left Miami's shooters wide open on the 3 point line.  Al caught in no man's land multiple times.

Failure to make adjustments on offense.  Continued to let Brown try to initiate plays.

And more.

Fire Joe.
letting one.armed.brogdon play over Hauser is a crime.

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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #982 on: May 29, 2023, 10:31:27 PM »

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He’s not getting fired

But also, look at Jaylen tonight. Look at this team even with Brad Stevens and Ime. It’s not entirely on the coach either. Roster changes are needed more IMO. I don’t think adding Monty is going to suddenly make Jaylen learn to dribble.
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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #983 on: May 29, 2023, 10:35:05 PM »

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This team need a disciplinarian. Ime almost got them winning it all. They also need to upgrade White as the regular start and demote Smart off the bench. That's how Phil Jackson with the Lakers solved their locker room problem and chemistry.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #984 on: May 29, 2023, 10:41:52 PM »

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Geez. You all are like squirrels with this.

Your best player got injured on the first play of the game, and the other team shot 50% from 3 (again). It’s not about Joe.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #985 on: May 29, 2023, 10:45:58 PM »

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Geez. You all are like squirrels with this.

Your best player got injured on the first play of the game, and the other team shot 50% from 3 (again). It’s not about Joe.

It's not Joe.  It's just his offensive and defensive schemes.


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Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #986 on: May 29, 2023, 10:57:57 PM »

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Has to go this week. Team progressively got worse offensively after their insane marksmanship from early in the year waned. Just no clue tonite what to do offensively. They would have struggled against any team, let alone a good Heat team.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #987 on: May 29, 2023, 11:02:23 PM »

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Geez. You all are like squirrels with this.

Your best player got injured on the first play of the game, and the other team shot 50% from 3 (again). It’s not about Joe.

Calling for a new coach didn’t just come up tonight.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #988 on: May 29, 2023, 11:02:31 PM »

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Wow.  That last three seconds was called "winning in spite of Joe", haha.

First he challenges a clear foul that was called a 2PT shot.  Under review, the Heat get three FTs.

Then, the ATO call to Smart was terrible, and predictably he missed.

Thank God for White.  Holy holy.

Wouldn't the refs have reviewed it anyways to see if it was a 2 or 3?  The challenge was just used because he had it, and was going to call a timeout anyways.

I would guess Tatum was option A, but Struss went to double him (though didn't look like a particularly good play to set up Tatum.).

The “challenge”/review actually was a blessing in disguise.

It gave the C’s more time by putting 3.0 sec on the clock.

Had the floor call stood to would be 2 free throws for Butler and all likelihood OT and with the way the Cs were playing offensively against their zone defense I had no confidence with an OT win lol
It wasn't a blessing in disguise, it was just a blessing. As was said before, the refs were always going to review for the number of free throws. Using the challenge there gave the C's more time and an outside shot at overturning the call. It was a no-brainer to use the challenge. Which is to say, it was a no-brainer for Mazzulla but not for a lot of us fans who don't know the rules and jump to conclusions.

But why did Joe set up a play for a 3pt shot knowing that we were down by 1 and we were shooting like 20% from 3? It's like all ATO that he set up in crunch time were always for a 3 pt shot.

Joe needs to improve on this part.

That 3pt shot was probably option D, E, or F.

Jaylen with a midrange catch and spin or Tatum catching the ball at the 3pt line but going downhill with momentum (with the option to drive in or pull up) were probably options A, B, and C.

Yes, and Miami did a good job of closing options A, B and C off with 3 seconds on the clock.
Exactly.

It was since you lost the lead.

The extra time we needed to win in regulation.

Re: Fire Joe!
« Reply #989 on: May 29, 2023, 11:04:05 PM »

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