Three Bleacher Report trade proposals

[Goldstar88]

Reports out of ATL are, they might move on from Young.  With Smart on the team, I don't think it's a fit, unless Smart were traded instead of JB.  I'm not much of a Young fan, maybe we can get a 3rd team involved and get a piece that fits better.  IDK.

What's fair value for Young?  He can single-handedly win you games.  He can put the team on his back.  But, he'll also cost plenty of games, he's a disliked teammate, and he doesn't play defense.

He's like Monta Ellis 2.0, or a PG version of Kobe that didn't play defense and didn't have the work ethic. 

His best role will probably be on a bad to mediocre team without any elite prospects that hopes to be a lower end playoff team for the next several years.

I still a think a 3 team trade with the C's, Blazers, and Hawks makes a lot of sense

Something like this perhaps

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

I would do this 100/100 times. A team of the below is nasty!

Lillard / Pritchard
White / Brogdon
Tatum / Hauser / Griffin
Horford / G-Will
R-Will3 / Nurkic

I'd do this 0/100 times.  the money Lillard is expecting in his next deal -- at his age well into his 30's - is a franchise killer.   absolutely no way do I want to be the sucker paying Lillard on his next deal -- especially with his lack of D added to that contract at his age.

JB is also a better two way player than Lillard, he plays wing which is the most important position in the NBA and he’s only 26 years old.

[Sophomore]

Reports out of ATL are, they might move on from Young.  With Smart on the team, I don't think it's a fit, unless Smart were traded instead of JB.  I'm not much of a Young fan, maybe we can get a 3rd team involved and get a piece that fits better.  IDK.

What's fair value for Young?  He can single-handedly win you games.  He can put the team on his back.  But, he'll also cost plenty of games, he's a disliked teammate, and he doesn't play defense.

He's like Monta Ellis 2.0, or a PG version of Kobe that didn't play defense and didn't have the work ethic. 

His best role will probably be on a bad to mediocre team without any elite prospects that hopes to be a lower end playoff team for the next several years.

I still a think a 3 team trade with the C's, Blazers, and Hawks makes a lot of sense

Something like this perhaps

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

I would do this 100/100 times. A team of the below is nasty!

Lillard / Pritchard
White / Brogdon
Tatum / Hauser / Griffin
Horford / G-Will
R-Will3 / Nurkic

I'd do this 0/100 times.  the money Lillard is expecting in his next deal -- at his age well into his 30's - is a franchise killer.   absolutely no way do I want to be the sucker paying Lillard on his next deal -- especially with his lack of D added to that contract at his age.

Same.

We have a young all-star 2-way wing in Jaylen Brown, and people can’t stop dreaming up ways to get rid of him.

[gouki88]

Reports out of ATL are, they might move on from Young.  With Smart on the team, I don't think it's a fit, unless Smart were traded instead of JB.  I'm not much of a Young fan, maybe we can get a 3rd team involved and get a piece that fits better.  IDK.

What's fair value for Young?  He can single-handedly win you games.  He can put the team on his back.  But, he'll also cost plenty of games, he's a disliked teammate, and he doesn't play defense.

He's like Monta Ellis 2.0, or a PG version of Kobe that didn't play defense and didn't have the work ethic. 

His best role will probably be on a bad to mediocre team without any elite prospects that hopes to be a lower end playoff team for the next several years.

I still a think a 3 team trade with the C's, Blazers, and Hawks makes a lot of sense

Something like this perhaps

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

I would do this 100/100 times. A team of the below is nasty!

Lillard / Pritchard
White / Brogdon
Tatum / Hauser / Griffin
Horford / G-Will
R-Will3 / Nurkic

I'd do this 0/100 times.  the money Lillard is expecting in his next deal -- at his age well into his 30's - is a franchise killer.   absolutely no way do I want to be the sucker paying Lillard on his next deal -- especially with his lack of D added to that contract at his age.

If Lillard had at all declined I might agree

[tazzmaniac]

Reports out of ATL are, they might move on from Young.  With Smart on the team, I don't think it's a fit, unless Smart were traded instead of JB.  I'm not much of a Young fan, maybe we can get a 3rd team involved and get a piece that fits better.  IDK.

What's fair value for Young?  He can single-handedly win you games.  He can put the team on his back.  But, he'll also cost plenty of games, he's a disliked teammate, and he doesn't play defense.

He's like Monta Ellis 2.0, or a PG version of Kobe that didn't play defense and didn't have the work ethic. 

His best role will probably be on a bad to mediocre team without any elite prospects that hopes to be a lower end playoff team for the next several years.

I still a think a 3 team trade with the C's, Blazers, and Hawks makes a lot of sense

Something like this perhaps

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

I would do this 100/100 times. A team of the below is nasty!

Lillard / Pritchard
White / Brogdon
Tatum / Hauser / Griffin
Horford / G-Will
R-Will3 / Nurkic

I'd do this 0/100 times.  the money Lillard is expecting in his next deal -- at his age well into his 30's - is a franchise killer.   absolutely no way do I want to be the sucker paying Lillard on his next deal -- especially with his lack of D added to that contract at his age.

If Lillard had at all declined I might agree

If Lillard had led Portland anywhere, I might agree with you.  He couldn't even get his team in the playin games. 

[slamtheking]

Reports out of ATL are, they might move on from Young.  With Smart on the team, I don't think it's a fit, unless Smart were traded instead of JB.  I'm not much of a Young fan, maybe we can get a 3rd team involved and get a piece that fits better.  IDK.

What's fair value for Young?  He can single-handedly win you games.  He can put the team on his back.  But, he'll also cost plenty of games, he's a disliked teammate, and he doesn't play defense.

He's like Monta Ellis 2.0, or a PG version of Kobe that didn't play defense and didn't have the work ethic. 

His best role will probably be on a bad to mediocre team without any elite prospects that hopes to be a lower end playoff team for the next several years.

I still a think a 3 team trade with the C's, Blazers, and Hawks makes a lot of sense

Something like this perhaps

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

I would do this 100/100 times. A team of the below is nasty!

Lillard / Pritchard
White / Brogdon
Tatum / Hauser / Griffin
Horford / G-Will
R-Will3 / Nurkic

I'd do this 0/100 times.  the money Lillard is expecting in his next deal -- at his age well into his 30's - is a franchise killer.   absolutely no way do I want to be the sucker paying Lillard on his next deal -- especially with his lack of D added to that contract at his age.

If Lillard had at all declined I might agree

If Lillard had led Portland anywhere, I might agree with you.  He couldn't even get his team in the playin games.

Lillard's a genuine offensive talent but he's not a 2-way player nor shown a lot of inclination to be one.  He's very much on the wrong side of 30 and will cost an absolutely absurd amount of money in his next contract.  There's no appeal to swapping Jaylen for him.  Even if they could make a deal without involving either of the J's to get Lillard makes me really hesitant because of that contract and his defense.

[Moranis]

Reports out of ATL are, they might move on from Young.  With Smart on the team, I don't think it's a fit, unless Smart were traded instead of JB.  I'm not much of a Young fan, maybe we can get a 3rd team involved and get a piece that fits better.  IDK.

What's fair value for Young?  He can single-handedly win you games.  He can put the team on his back.  But, he'll also cost plenty of games, he's a disliked teammate, and he doesn't play defense.

He's like Monta Ellis 2.0, or a PG version of Kobe that didn't play defense and didn't have the work ethic. 

His best role will probably be on a bad to mediocre team without any elite prospects that hopes to be a lower end playoff team for the next several years.

I still a think a 3 team trade with the C's, Blazers, and Hawks makes a lot of sense

Something like this perhaps

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

I would do this 100/100 times. A team of the below is nasty!

Lillard / Pritchard
White / Brogdon
Tatum / Hauser / Griffin
Horford / G-Will
R-Will3 / Nurkic

I'd do this 0/100 times.  the money Lillard is expecting in his next deal -- at his age well into his 30's - is a franchise killer.   absolutely no way do I want to be the sucker paying Lillard on his next deal -- especially with his lack of D added to that contract at his age.

If Lillard had at all declined I might agree

If Lillard had led Portland anywhere, I might agree with you.  He couldn't even get his team in the playin games.

I mean they did shut him down with 10 games left and then promptly went 1-9.  At the time they shut him down they were 32-40 and in the mix.  He missed some games earlier in the year and they were 27-31 with him out there.  His on/off differential per 100 was +12.8 which is elite.  Sharpe and Eubanks are also the only players on the team that played at least 64 games.  Very injury filled year on the whole for the Blazers, but Lilllard was mostly healthy and ended the year healthy (they just benched him) and his team was significantly better when he was on the floor playing. 

Swapping Lillard for Brown would make the Celtics a HEAVY HEAVY favorite the next couple of seasons.  And I do think Lillard will age ok since he isn't one of those uber-athletic type guards and you don't tend to lose shooting touch like you do other skills.

[Roy H.]

I don't want to trade JB, period.

If we *have* to trade him, it will be an interesting debate regarding which direction to take:  older veterans (Beal, Lillard) versus good young players and prospects.

For me, if a JB trade was necessary, I'd reach out to Brooklyn about Bridges.  But, I don't want to trade the guy.

[Birdman]

If Brown request a trade, I would but no way I trade him

[Moranis]

If Brown request a trade, I would but no way I trade him

He might not actually have to request a trade for the team to realize they need to trade him i.e. he is offered the supermax extension and doesn't sign it.  I think then Boston will be forced to trade him.

[Roy H.]

If Brown request a trade, I would but no way I trade him

He might not actually have to request a trade for the team to realize they need to trade him i.e. he is offered the supermax extension and doesn't sign it.  I think then Boston will be forced to trade him.

While I think that's true, I also think that it's extremely unlikely.  Jaylen is openly advocating for himself regarding making the team.  I think that's because he really wants that supermax contract.  It would be legitimately shocking to me if he didn't sign it.

But, if for some odd reason he insisted on exploring free agency?  Then yes, the team would essentially be forced to trade him at that point.

[Sophomore]

If Brown request a trade, I would but no way I trade him

He might not actually have to request a trade for the team to realize they need to trade him i.e. he is offered the supermax extension and doesn't sign it.  I think then Boston will be forced to trade him.

Another team can offer him four-years at roughly $184.5 million, depending on the cap.  The supermax deal would be five years, roughly $290M. Maybe you imagine Jaylen hates Boston so much he’ll turn down this kind of deal. I think that is extremely unlikely.

[footey]

If Brown request a trade, I would but no way I trade him

He might not actually have to request a trade for the team to realize they need to trade him i.e. he is offered the supermax extension and doesn't sign it.  I think then Boston will be forced to trade him.

The odds of this happening are 0.00000001%, so not sure why we would even discuss this hypothetical.

[green_bballers13]

Jaylen is smart. He will take the big contract, then request a trade. It's the rational move.

I hope they win this year, he makes All NBA, and he gets paid top $. At that point, I'll feel better about trading him, knowing that we got a ring.

I actually think this is a good time to do it. The Celtics have had multiple shots at winning with Tatum & Brown. If they don't do it this year together, why would next year be any better?

[Moranis]

If Brown request a trade, I would but no way I trade him

He might not actually have to request a trade for the team to realize they need to trade him i.e. he is offered the supermax extension and doesn't sign it.  I think then Boston will be forced to trade him.

Another team can offer him four-years at roughly $184.5 million, depending on the cap.  The supermax deal would be five years, roughly $290M. Maybe you imagine Jaylen hates Boston so much he’ll turn down this kind of deal. I think that is extremely unlikely.

Players do weird things.  Irving turned down the supermax here, for example.  And yes, giving up roughly 50 million (assuming he'd sign the max in 4 years) does seem like a weird thing to do, but it does happen.  He also might sign only a 3 year contract, and end up boosting up year 4 and 5 when he signs those under the new tv deals. 

[Roy H.]

The Celtics have had multiple shots at winning with Tatum & Brown. If they don't do it this year together, why would next year be any better?

Can you imagine if all franchises took this approach?  If your top two players haven't won a title by age 27, it's time to move on?