« Reply #3960 on: June 09, 2023, 06:27:35 AM »
Per Haynes, this is all a fantasy anyways, as Dame reportedly wouldn’t accept a trade to Boston.
https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1666931292162727936?s=46&t=lGU0TGXtwjkuVuoin6WTNw
Find this hard to believe. I can see him stating a preference for Miami or Brooklyn due to friends being there, but what would the rationale be for not wanting Boston given our situation? Or is this more of the IT injury narrative non-sense?
(Not that we’re trading for him anyways, but still I find this strange. Also, Haynes was wrong just yesterday about the CP3 report, so perhaps his credibility is waning.)
Haynes is usually pretty locked in with Dame related stuff. Dame has given him some "exclusive" interviews over the years. He's been Dame's preferred mouthpiece when the offseason/trade chatter starts up.
He probably wants to be THE guy on whatever team he may be traded to. He ain’t going to be top dog in Boston. If he goes to Miami, Butler would be fine deferring. In Brooklyn, he’d be the top option ahead of Bridges.
Jimmy defer? Jimmy is a dominant personality and he like the spotlight. I think people forget that he's had issues on every team he's been on (in Chicago - he couldn't share the spotlight with Rose, fell out with Joakim Noah, publicly called out his younger teammates during the Rondo/Wade experiment, in Minny - he forced his way out because he didn't like playing with KAT, and in Philly - didn't want to share ball handling with Simmons and clashed Brett Brown. He's even bumped heads with Spo but Spo just doesn't back down and has Riley's support). He might mesh with Dame and it works itself out, but it's not a sure thing. I definitely don't think he's gonna just defer naturally.
This season Jimmy Butler led the Heat in APG and was 3rd in shot attempts per game with 13.9. Bam was at 14.6 and Herro was 16.6
It seems like he is a player that's fine deferring to his teammates.
Brown had basically the same number of attempts that Lillard had this year and Tatum was 2nd on the C's in apg. He'd get plenty of shots in Boston. I think it would be about perception on whose team it is and in that the Heat are Butler's team. I think the C's would be more likely to be Lillard's team than the Heat would.
All that said, if I was a young multi-millionaire that dabbles in entertainment and all sorts of industries, I'd much rather live in Miami than Boston. Of course, unless the Heat are willing to trade Bam, I'm not sure they could put together a package that is anywhere near as attractive as the one Boston or a handful of other eastern teams could put together.
Eh, this is pretty clearly Tatum’s team, especially given that at 8-9 years younger Tatum’s resume already rivals Lillard in awards and swamps him in winning in both the regular season and playoffs. Dane coming here doesn’t change that, which I do think is a factor.
I can see the nightlife/marketing opportunities in Miami and Brooklyn better appeal to him, but if he’s “all about winning” like he says, Boston is clearly the best option for both him and likely even Portland.
But as much as I think Brown is not a great fit for us as a two star behind JT, I’d much rather find other ways to better complement the Jays (particularly with ball handling and playmaking - like a CP3) than trade for Lillard. Hell, I’d take a Trae trade over Lillard. I’m just not ready to risk it all for another older point guard with a health history.
there is no question that Tatum has been Boston"s best and most important player, but he doesn't have the team like someone like Butler does in Miami.. there are strong arguments that Smart or Brown are this teams leader, which is part of the problem the team has as they are no where near as good as Tatum. That isn't the case with Lillard. Tatum can still be the best player, yet the team could be Lillard's team so to speak. I think that is more likely than it would be in Miami where the Heat are clearly Jimmy's team. I think back to the Toine and Pierce teams. Pierce was the best and most important player to winning, but Toine was the leader (and he was close enough in talent it could work). I absolutley could see that with Tatum and Lillard.
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