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Who had the better first 5 years

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2 (25%)
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Better 1st 5 years (of play) - Brady or Mahomes
« on: February 21, 2023, 12:04:03 PM »

Offline Moranis

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Stat - Brady - Mahomes

SB Wins - 3 - 2
SB Apps - 3 - 3
CCG Apps - 3 - 5
MVP's - 0 - 2
Yards - 20,906 - 29,961
TD's - 143 - 244
Passer Rtg - 88.6 - 106.2

So the question is simple, who had the better start to their career (years starting), the guy that won 3 SB's or the guy that is superior in everything else but only has 2 SB's. 
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Re: Better 1st 5 years (of play) - Brady or Mahomes
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2023, 12:11:25 PM »

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Mahomes would seem to win that discussion but let's see how he fares over the next 10 years (if he's still in the league).

I think Mahomes is the much better athlete and accomplishes more spectacular plays based on this athleticism but Brady's legacy has always been about his ability to just plain win and keep his composure under pressure.

Re: Better 1st 5 years (of play) - Brady or Mahomes
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2023, 12:16:42 PM »

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I'm going with Brady, because Super Bowls are such a key component to evaluating QBs.  Also, Brady didn't have the opportunity to sling the ball like Mahomes does until later in his career.

If you just go by statistics, I'm sure a lot of guys produced more than Brady during his first five seasons.


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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2023, 12:30:25 PM »

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Mahomes. 

Brady essentially had 3 careers, though.  '01-06, '07-'13, & '14-'22. 

The question is whether or not Mahomes will have parts 2 and 3.


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Re: Better 1st 5 years (of play) - Brady or Mahomes
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2023, 12:38:36 PM »

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Brady's the GOAT, hands down. But even as a Pats fan I have to say Mahomes.

Something to factor in is that those Patriots defenses in the early 2000s were really, really good too and helped big time.

But as Donoghus also said, it's true, Brady has had almost 3 HOF-level careers if you think about it. We'll see if Mahomes can have Parts 2 and 3. Brady was also iron man after the 2008 ACL injury, while Mahomes has already dealt with some big injuries. It remains to be seen if he can hold up through his 30s. Easier said than done. I remember when everyone was saying the likes of Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, etc. would start a new dynasty and easily win 3+ rings, but ultimately they all kind of fizzled out due to some choking/injuries.
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Re: Better 1st 5 years (of play) - Brady or Mahomes
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I posted this because of something that was said in the overrated athlete thread about winning titles.

I do think it is interesting that Brady is getting votes here, but I also think that the focus on winning championships, which is a relatively new development, has really allowed for the current climate, especially in the NBA.  What I mean is, if we keep telling players the only thing that matters is winning championships, then we really can't be surprised when they take regular season games off or don't try in all star games.  Why should a player care about any of that, if it doesn't matter to the media and fans or more importantly their legacy?  When you make the only thing that matters a title, then the only thing that matters is titles.
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Re: Better 1st 5 years (of play) - Brady or Mahomes
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2023, 01:17:46 PM »

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I'm going with Brady, because Super Bowls are such a key component to evaluating QBs.  Also, Brady didn't have the opportunity to sling the ball like Mahomes does until later in his career.

If you just go by statistics, I'm sure a lot of guys produced more than Brady during his first five seasons.

Brady also didn’t have a Kelce and/or Hill caliber player early in his career either. Those guys have been arguably the best TE and WR in all of football.
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