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Re: Is this the year a Little 5 Program makes the CFB Playoffs?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2021, 05:00:57 PM »

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Last season Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina both would have both made it and Oregon, the Pac-12 champ, would not have.

Last year was a bit unusual because Oregon only played six games.  I'm going to guess that in a full season, we don't see a scenario where the Pac-12 is left out of the playoffs in favor of a second small conference team.


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Re: Is this the year a Little 5 Program makes the CFB Playoffs?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2021, 10:52:19 PM »

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Looks like we may be getting expanded playoffs very soon.  I think this is good news for college football.

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 headed to 12 teams. Earliest start would be after 2023 regular season, sources told
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Agreed.

Now we get to watch the committee vote the best undefeated small conference teams #13 every year.
The proposal says the SIX highest ranked champions will make it.  So it guarantees that at least 1 of the Little 5 teams will be in, and it also doesn't guarantee that all 5 of the Power 5 will be in.  The top 4 seeds will be the 4 highest ranked champions and will have a bye.  The 1st round games will be on the home field of the higher seed.
Exactly.  Last season Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina both would have both made it and Oregon, the Pac-12 champ, would not have.   

Bama, Clemson, OSU and OU would have been the top ranked champions and gotten the first round byes.  It looks like the 1st round matchups would have been:

Coastal Carolina @ Notre Dame
Indiana @ Texas A&M
Iowa State @ Florida
Georgia @ Cincinnati

Those were the actual top 12 teams in the CFP rankings.  Now I'd expect all 3 SEC teams and Notre Dame to win which would mean 4 SEC teams in 2nd round and a whole bunch of whining.
Cincinnati as the 8th seed would have hosted Georgia, given it was a nail biter on a neutral field, Cincinnati might have actually beaten them, but yeah Florida and Texas A&M probably win pretty easily as does Notre Dame.

The quarters would have been pretty darn good

Bama vs. UC/GA
OU vs. ND
OSU vs. A&M
Clem vs. FLA
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Re: Is this the year a Little 5 Program makes the CFB Playoffs?
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2021, 09:05:03 AM »

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Looks like we may be getting expanded playoffs very soon.  I think this is good news for college football.

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Brett McMurphy
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Pending approval - which it will be approved -
@CFBPlayoff
 headed to 12 teams. Earliest start would be after 2023 regular season, sources told
@Stadium
. Because of impact of expanded playoff, expect anywhere from 4-10 bowls to be eliminated by 2023, sources said

Agreed.

Now we get to watch the committee vote the best undefeated small conference teams #13 every year.

In 2024, there will be schools missing out like you said, and demanding the playoff be expanded to the top 20. The complaining will never end.

Re: Is this the year a Little 5 Program makes the CFB Playoffs?
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2021, 09:46:42 AM »

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Looks like we may be getting expanded playoffs very soon.  I think this is good news for college football.

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Brett McMurphy
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Pending approval - which it will be approved -
@CFBPlayoff
 headed to 12 teams. Earliest start would be after 2023 regular season, sources told
@Stadium
. Because of impact of expanded playoff, expect anywhere from 4-10 bowls to be eliminated by 2023, sources said

Agreed.

Now we get to watch the committee vote the best undefeated small conference teams #13 every year.
The proposal says the SIX highest ranked champions will make it.  So it guarantees that at least 1 of the Little 5 teams will be in, and it also doesn't guarantee that all 5 of the Power 5 will be in.  The top 4 seeds will be the 4 highest ranked champions and will have a bye.  The 1st round games will be on the home field of the higher seed.
Exactly.  Last season Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina both would have both made it and Oregon, the Pac-12 champ, would not have.   

Bama, Clemson, OSU and OU would have been the top ranked champions and gotten the first round byes.  It looks like the 1st round matchups would have been:

Coastal Carolina @ Notre Dame
Indiana @ Texas A&M
Iowa State @ Florida
Georgia @ Cincinnati

Those were the actual top 12 teams in the CFP rankings.  Now I'd expect all 3 SEC teams and Notre Dame to win which would mean 4 SEC teams in 2nd round and a whole bunch of whining.
Cincinnati as the 8th seed would have hosted Georgia, given it was a nail biter on a neutral field, Cincinnati might have actually beaten them, but yeah Florida and Texas A&M probably win pretty easily as does Notre Dame.

The quarters would have been pretty darn good

Bama vs. UC/GA
OU vs. ND
OSU vs. A&M
Clem vs. FLA
Georgia had quite a few players opt out of the bowl game including 3 or 4 starters.  Doubt that would have happened if it was a playoff game.  Don't see playing @ Cincinnati in a 40k seat stadium as being a big deal.  With the way Georgia fans travel, they'd have a lot of fans in the stands. 

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Re: Is this the year a Little 5 Program makes the CFB Playoffs?
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2021, 12:17:20 PM »

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The Athletic posted the 12 team playoffs going back to 2016.  3 teams would have made it every year, and surprisingly, one of the 3 is not Alabama.  The 3 are Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma.  Clemson is the only one of those 3 with a bye every year (OU and OSU both were not top 4 in 2016 and obviously Bama didn't even make the playoffs in 2019).  The Little 5 teams were not always 12th, last year Cincinnati was 8th (Coastal also made it at 12 - keeping the Pac 12 out) and in 2018 UCF was also 8th.  So they would have hosted a playoff game.  2020 the SEC had 4 and did in 2018 as well, but the Big Ten also had 4 in 2016.  2016 the SEC only had 1 team make the playoffs making the Big Ten the only conference with at least 2 teams every season.  The Big Ten and SEC have the same number of births in the 12 team format since 2016.  ND would have made it only twice, 2020 and 2018.
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Re: Is this the year a Little 5 Program makes the CFB Playoffs?
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2021, 12:36:19 PM »

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The Athletic posted the 12 team playoffs going back to 2016.  3 teams would have made it every year, and surprisingly, one of the 3 is not Alabama.  The 3 are Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma.  Clemson is the only one of those 3 with a bye every year (OU and OSU both were not top 4 in 2016 and obviously Bama didn't even make the playoffs in 2019).  The Little 5 teams were not always 12th, last year Cincinnati was 8th (Coastal also made it at 12 - keeping the Pac 12 out) and in 2018 UCF was also 8th.  So they would have hosted a playoff game.  2020 the SEC had 4 and did in 2018 as well, but the Big Ten also had 4 in 2016.  2016 the SEC only had 1 team make the playoffs making the Big Ten the only conference with at least 2 teams every season.  The Big Ten and SEC have the same number of births in the 12 team format since 2016.  ND would have made it only twice, 2020 and 2018.
Bama actually has legitimate competition in the SEC (Georgia, LSU, A&M, Auburn).  Clemson, Oklahoma and even OSU have little competition in their conferences.  Clemson and Oklahoma have won their conferences 6 straight years. 

Re: Is this the year a Little 5 Program makes the CFB Playoffs?
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2021, 09:04:24 PM »

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Is this the year a Group of 5 Program makes the CFB Playoffs?

If it is not, they'll just keep expanding the brackets until every team in the country is invited.
I preferred the traditional bowl setup and let the writers & coaches choose the national champion.
The current system has destroyed the importance of the bowl games that are not included in the CFP.
You get a truer champion when we rank teams based on their performance over the entire season.
The more people you invite, the better the chance of a hot team sneaking in rather than the actual best team being recognized.
Look at the NCAA basketball tournament - Often enough, the best team in the country does not win.
One game is not representative of an entire season.

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