Rumour: Celtics (amongst many) Show Interest In Grant

[Celtics2021]

I'd be more interested in Harrison Barnes, who would probably cost less.  Isn't he rumored to be on trading block?

He's both on the trading block and someone the Kings want to build around/make the playoffs with this season, like virtually every player on the Kings.  That team has no direction, and they should've traded Barnes last year.

[Moranis]

Grant isn't worth 28 million a year, but you can make the trade for the next 1.5 years and see what happens.

Also, I think his efficiency will go up considerably when he goes back to not being the primary scorer.  Obviously his scoring will go down in that scenario, but I'd expect him to go back up in the 38-40% shooting range from 3 at about 15 ppg.  He doesn't do much else though, so you have to decide if a couple mid to late 1st's is worth that and at 20 million a year or so.  If it is, then you make the trade if you don't give up any long term pieces.

I'd probably do this

Grant, Joseph for Richardson, Hernangomez, Fernando, 22 1st, 24 1st (lotto)

I think that is a reasonable enough trade and improves Boston enough to pay the tax and give up the picks.

[Sophomore]

I'd be more interested in Harrison Barnes, who would probably cost less.  Isn't he rumored to be on trading block?

He's both on the trading block and someone the Kings want to build around/make the playoffs with this season, like virtually every player on the Kings.  That team has no direction, and they should've traded Barnes last year.

Yeah it’s hard to come up with fake trades involving the kings because it’s hard to know what they want.

[BruceBanner18]

I think Grant is an ideal fit with this roster. Instead of balancing the roster, it plays to our strengths. Three long, two way forwards who can guard 2-4 would make us much, much tougher to guard by creating mismatches. Rotations would be better since we'd always have two of the 3 on the floor. Brown, Tatum, Grant and Timelord would be a beast defensively and they could run teams out of the arena. He fits our ISO offense philosophy which I'm not convinced is going to change (at least short-term) so why fight it? Give Ime players that fit...all 3 guys can create and all three guys can catch and shoot. Add a PG that pushes the ball and can shoot, with a couple of sharp shooters. I think it could also work out really well although obviously a gamble with chemistry. It also seems more realistic than us landing a third All Star without giving up Brown.

[CBS_Take a Report]

Jerami Grant is being viewed by league personnel as the best player with the highest likelihood of being dealt prior to the Feb. 10 deadline.

Grant has attracted around a dozen suitors. With apologies to Myles Turner, "He's the grand prize of this deadline," one team strategist said.

The Lakers, Trail Blazers, Knicks, Jazz, Wizards, Celtics, Pacers, Timberwolves and Kings have all signaled interest in the 27-year-old.

The frenzy comes one year after Pistons general manager Troy Weaver swiftly declined any inquiry about Grant's availability after the forward surprisingly chose Detroit in free agency. Sources say Detroit is now asking for two first-round picks or one first-round pick plus a high-upside young player.

That's a similar valuation Aaron Gordon garnered last season, and the parallels are clear. Like Gordon at the time of his deal to Denver, Grant still has one year remaining on his contract following this season. Sources say Grant expects to sign a lucrative extension in the ballpark of four years, $112 million this offseason.

Grant is viewed as one of the few players on the trade block who can have a major impact on the postseason picture, and the Pistons seem to understand his value in this current market.

"He fits everywhere," the team strategist added.

"That's why nothing's been done yet," an assistant general manager said. "He's gonna have so many suitors; they're just gonna wait them all out."

Several league personnel view Washington as a favorite to land Grant. He hails from the D.C. area, his father Harvey played for the franchise from 1988-93 and again from 1996-98. The Wizards' first-year head coach Wes Unseld Jr. also coached Grant as an assistant with the Nuggets.

The Lakers' interest in Grant appears to be just that. A package of Talen Horton-Tucker and Kendrick Nunn likely won't pique Detroit's interest in this competitive market. Same for the Jazz, whose best offer featured Joe Ingles' expiring $12.4 million salary and a future first-round pick. Boston showed initial intrigue in Grant, but the Celtics were recently categorized to B/R as an unlikely destination.

Source: Jake Fischer (Bleacher Report)

Seriously, who says no to Aaron Nesmith (upside) + 1st? Throw in Langford if you must…

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Grant isn't worth 28 million a year, but you can make the trade for the next 1.5 years and see what happens.

Also, I think his efficiency will go up considerably when he goes back to not being the primary scorer.  Obviously his scoring will go down in that scenario, but I'd expect him to go back up in the 38-40% shooting range from 3 at about 15 ppg.  He doesn't do much else though, so you have to decide if a couple mid to late 1st's is worth that and at 20 million a year or so.  If it is, then you make the trade if you don't give up any long term pieces.

I'd probably do this

Grant, Joseph for Richardson, Hernangomez, Fernando, 22 1st, 24 1st (lotto)

I think that is a reasonable enough trade and improves Boston enough to pay the tax and give up the picks.

I'd do that in a second.

[todd_days_41]

Pass. Grant won't cure what ails us.

[CFAN38]

Grant has attracted around a dozen suitors. With apologies to Myles Turner, "He's the grand prize of this deadline," one team strategist said.

The Lakers, Trail Blazers, Knicks, Jazz, Wizards, Celtics, Pacers, Timberwolves and Kings have all signaled interest in the 27-year-old.

Man, I can't help think that he won't make much of a difference at his new team. That he is a stat padder on a bad team and will see a large drop off once he moves back to a good team.

Does not seem like much of a "grand prize" to me.

I agree, I’d love Grant on the Celtics but I think his value is more in roster construction then over all talent. I don’t know that he is a huge talent upgrade over J Richardson but being a swing/big wing and a player who likely pushed AL to the bench make him a nice fit.

I’m hoping the Cs add either a bigger wing Grant/Barnes, or a starting caliber shooting specialist Hield/Gordon. With either acquisition I see AL going to the bench as an important step forward for this team.

[michigan adam]

Grant has attracted around a dozen suitors. With apologies to Myles Turner, "He's the grand prize of this deadline," one team strategist said.

The Lakers, Trail Blazers, Knicks, Jazz, Wizards, Celtics, Pacers, Timberwolves and Kings have all signaled interest in the 27-year-old.

Man, I can't help think that he won't make much of a difference at his new team. That he is a stat padder on a bad team and will see a large drop off once he moves back to a good team.

Does not seem like much of a "grand prize" to me.

I agree, I’d love Grant on the Celtics but I think his value is more in roster construction then over all talent. I don’t know that he is a huge talent upgrade over J Richardson but being a swing/big wing and a player who likely pushed AL to the bench make him a nice fit.

I’m hoping the Cs add either a bigger wing Grant/Barnes, or a starting caliber shooting specialist Hield/Gordon. With either acquisition I see AL going to the bench as an important step forward for this team.

I think I'd rather Collins from atlanta than Grant.  Fits a hole "better" as 3rd scorer and big who can rebound and hit the 3.  Also think DS has to go, even for a second, and then I'd trade smart for a "better" PG.  Maybe Cole Anthony or D Murray? We need a big and a PG, preferably both who can hit over 33% from 3 and the PG with 5+ assist and the big with 8+ rebounds...

[Roy H.]

Grant has attracted around a dozen suitors. With apologies to Myles Turner, "He's the grand prize of this deadline," one team strategist said.

The Lakers, Trail Blazers, Knicks, Jazz, Wizards, Celtics, Pacers, Timberwolves and Kings have all signaled interest in the 27-year-old.

Man, I can't help think that he won't make much of a difference at his new team. That he is a stat padder on a bad team and will see a large drop off once he moves back to a good team.

Does not seem like much of a "grand prize" to me.

I agree, I’d love Grant on the Celtics but I think his value is more in roster construction then over all talent. I don’t know that he is a huge talent upgrade over J Richardson but being a swing/big wing and a player who likely pushed AL to the bench make him a nice fit.

I’m hoping the Cs add either a bigger wing Grant/Barnes, or a starting caliber shooting specialist Hield/Gordon. With either acquisition I see AL going to the bench as an important step forward for this team.

I think I'd rather Collins from atlanta than Grant.  Fits a hole "better" as 3rd scorer and big who can rebound and hit the 3.  Also think DS has to go, even for a second, and then I'd trade smart for a "better" PG.  Maybe Cole Anthony or D Murray? We need a big and a PG, preferably both who can hit over 33% from 3 and the PG with 5+ assist and the big with 8+ rebounds...

I'd prefer Collins, too, but the opinions I've read are that Atlanta isn't moving him for anything short of Brown on our team.  That's obviously a non-starter if true.

[Celtics2021]

Grant isn't worth 28 million a year, but you can make the trade for the next 1.5 years and see what happens.

Also, I think his efficiency will go up considerably when he goes back to not being the primary scorer.  Obviously his scoring will go down in that scenario, but I'd expect him to go back up in the 38-40% shooting range from 3 at about 15 ppg.  He doesn't do much else though, so you have to decide if a couple mid to late 1st's is worth that and at 20 million a year or so.  If it is, then you make the trade if you don't give up any long term pieces.

I'd probably do this

Grant, Joseph for Richardson, Hernangomez, Fernando, 22 1st, 24 1st (lotto)

I think that is a reasonable enough trade and improves Boston enough to pay the tax and give up the picks.

I'd do that in a second.

I'd see more of a 3-way trade.  Something like:

Boston gets: Jerami Grant
Atlanta gets: Josh Richardson
Detroit gets: Hernangomez, Lou Williams, Gorgui Dieng, Boston protected 1st, OKC 2022 lotto-protected 1st via Atlanta (so probably two 2nds, but OKC is only four games away from the play-in, and the West might be a tankathon the next three months, so who knows).

I wouldn't be a fan of that, personally, but if you felt the C's were committed to getting a starting 4 and moving Al to the bench, rather than using Al's salary to get a starting 4, this would make more sense than sending a useful player like Richardson to Detroit who would not use him.  Atlanta seems like a decent fit for Richardson, the two outgoing salaries are expiring, and while the pick has some potential, it's likely two seconds, and the Hawks aren't short of seconds in the near future.  Keeps them under the luxury tax too, unless they make the conference finals so Capela reaches his contract incentive.

Again, it wouldn't be my first choice, as I'm among those who think the Celtics most of all need an upgrade at PG (although I'd keep Smart as the starter and still move Al to the bench).  I'd preserve assets/ salary flexibility for that player or a third star, and not Jerami Grant.

I should note that Jake Fischer, who's tweet/article started this thread, has a decent history of accuracy when discussing the C's. but I don't know if that's just because he quickly jumps onto what others have already posted and pretends as if it's his own, or he actually has sources.

[nickagneta]

Grant has attracted around a dozen suitors. With apologies to Myles Turner, "He's the grand prize of this deadline," one team strategist said.

The Lakers, Trail Blazers, Knicks, Jazz, Wizards, Celtics, Pacers, Timberwolves and Kings have all signaled interest in the 27-year-old.

Man, I can't help think that he won't make much of a difference at his new team. That he is a stat padder on a bad team and will see a large drop off once he moves back to a good team.

Does not seem like much of a "grand prize" to me.

I agree, I’d love Grant on the Celtics but I think his value is more in roster construction then over all talent. I don’t know that he is a huge talent upgrade over J Richardson but being a swing/big wing and a player who likely pushed AL to the bench make him a nice fit.

I’m hoping the Cs add either a bigger wing Grant/Barnes, or a starting caliber shooting specialist Hield/Gordon. With either acquisition I see AL going to the bench as an important step forward for this team.

I think I'd rather Collins from atlanta than Grant.  Fits a hole "better" as 3rd scorer and big who can rebound and hit the 3.  Also think DS has to go, even for a second, and then I'd trade smart for a "better" PG.  Maybe Cole Anthony or D Murray? We need a big and a PG, preferably both who can hit over 33% from 3 and the PG with 5+ assist and the big with 8+ rebounds...

Everyone would want those guys but they aren't available. Collins in ATL, Murray in SA, Anthony in ORL, those are guys those teams are building around. You aren't getting them without a J included.

But you look at some teams like Sactown who is poorly managed and could make a Barnes, Hield or Fox available because they are the Kings. Or Indy who might blow it up and so could make most anyone available. Or Houston who could make Wood available because he doesn't fit their timeline. Detroit with Grant being the same thing. Ross in ORL. Those are the guys and teams you need to focus on.

The bad teams looking to rebuild with young talent like ORL with their super young core, OKC with SGA and their youth, Detroit with Cade, Bey and a couple others,  Cleveland with Garland and Mobley, those types of situations, those just aren't happening. We can all wish and make trade proposals, but that just isn't happening.

[BruceBanner18]

Grant has attracted around a dozen suitors. With apologies to Myles Turner, "He's the grand prize of this deadline," one team strategist said.

The Lakers, Trail Blazers, Knicks, Jazz, Wizards, Celtics, Pacers, Timberwolves and Kings have all signaled interest in the 27-year-old.

Man, I can't help think that he won't make much of a difference at his new team. That he is a stat padder on a bad team and will see a large drop off once he moves back to a good team.

Does not seem like much of a "grand prize" to me.

I agree, I’d love Grant on the Celtics but I think his value is more in roster construction then over all talent. I don’t know that he is a huge talent upgrade over J Richardson but being a swing/big wing and a player who likely pushed AL to the bench make him a nice fit.

I’m hoping the Cs add either a bigger wing Grant/Barnes, or a starting caliber shooting specialist Hield/Gordon. With either acquisition I see AL going to the bench as an important step forward for this team.

I think I'd rather Collins from atlanta than Grant.  Fits a hole "better" as 3rd scorer and big who can rebound and hit the 3.  Also think DS has to go, even for a second, and then I'd trade smart for a "better" PG.  Maybe Cole Anthony or D Murray? We need a big and a PG, preferably both who can hit over 33% from 3 and the PG with 5+ assist and the big with 8+ rebounds...

I'd prefer Collins too but Atlanta isn't rebuilding.

Plus, all this stat padder stuff is crazy. Grant is very well rounded and would be our best wing defender immediately. His biggest weaknesses (efficiency as primary scorer and rebounding) are non issues on this roster.

[tonydelk]

Grant doesn't move the needle for me.  If I had my choice it would be a deal to pick up a young player like kuminga.  GsW can win it all and having a guy like smart or even Richardson should be ideal. 

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I would do Moranis' trade in a heartbeat.

I would also do a trade that sent out Smart and somehow got us out of the luxury tax. It'd also be awesome if the Pistons were ready to give up on Hayes and we could nab him, but that's doubtful to me.

I think Smart, Langford, and Juancho for Grant and Hayes gets us pretty close. Maybe Detroit could get excited about having Smart next to Cunningham and establishing a tough-minded identity with a veteran like Smart.