Realistically, you’re probably either getting
Package A: salary filler, 1 polarizing prospect and a bunch of picks+swaps.
Package B: all-star on the last years of his prime and a pick or 2.
Why is that realistic? Young stars would generate better returns than that.
Agreed. Those aren't the likely outcomes of trading a young All-Star like Tatum.
have to agree. C's wouldn't ship Tatum for anything less than an MVP candidate coming back. might mean adding something to Tatum to make it work but he's too good and important to this team to deal for spare parts or taking risks on players rehabbing their games physically/mentally.
An MVP candidate? There's 2-3 in the league -- Tatum ain't even close to bein' one of 'em -- and none of them is getting traded for Tatum. He'd almost certainly be the best player in the deal, but I think the Cs would hold out for either another All-Star, or 2 really good young players & change.
didn't say Tatum was an MVP - mentioned they'd have to add something. the point is, if Tatum were to be moved, that's the level of player you move him for. you don't move your most valued team asset for lesser pieces.
I think you’re missing the point I’m calling out: why would a team with an MVP candidate trade him for Tatum? Tatum is highly unlikely to ever be that caliber of player.
Tatum and Luka are the two best players under 25 years of age, by a good margin. So how can you say that it’s highly unlikely for Jayson to ever be in the conversation for MVP. Makes no sense.
Where in this response does it say anything about Luka Doncic? Attaching Tatum to him is your narrative, not mine.
You simply have a more optimistic view of Tatum than I do. Great player. But this is his 5th season in the league, and I don't see him morphing into an MVP (unless he lucks into one ala Derrick Rose.in 2011). Anthony Davis has zero MVPs. Kawhi Leonard has zero MVPs (which is lame, by the way). I don't see Tatum getting there, personally.
That I don't under no circumstances means that I don't really like and value the player, or that I think the Cs should or will trade him if they're not seriously compelled to. I wouldn't want to trade Davis or Leonard either. But guess what -- both of them have been, like lots of other star players. And you don't get a legit current MVP-type back when you trade one of those guys.
As clearly and repeatedly stated, I'm looking at hypothetical value -- not advocating for a trade, and certainly not a trade of Tatum.... not right now. But as one of this boards most frequent posters said this week:
"We’re a .500 team with no clear future." ....despite having two young all-stars.
Push may come to shove on Brown and Tatum's ability to fit together and win games if progress isn't significant in the next 12-18 months. And i'm not naive enough to think what happened with the two guys I mentioned above couldn't happen with Tatum. So i'm interested in what others think his value is...., simple as that. I'm just as interested in the view of Brown's, frankly, but I agree Tatum's is higher -- particularly when you factor off-the-court.