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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: Tr1boy on June 14, 2018, 12:32:32 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6HGx8uhJ_E
Not that this is a huge deal. It is also Haywards team, CBS team etc. But as the face of the franchise Nick Wright is hinting that now, it has become Tatum team. Even more so than Irvings
agree or disagree?
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Agree to some extent. I expect Tatum to eclipse Kyrie as the better player in the next couple of years.
Also, I think Irvings health is too shaky to consider him a franchise cornerstone. Guys like Dirk, Duncan, Kobe, Pierce were franchise cornerstones because they consistently lead their teams and were durable has heck, rarely ever missed games let alone entire post seasons. It sucks too because it's not like I don't think Irving has the talent, but his durability is concerning to say the least.
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Agree to some extent. I expect Tatum to eclipse Kyrie as the better player in the next couple of years.
Also, I think Irvings health is too shaky to consider him a franchise cornerstone. Guys like Dirk, Duncan, Kobe, Pierce were franchise cornerstones because they consistently lead their teams and were durable has heck, rarely ever missed games let alone entire post seasons. It sucks too because it's not like I don't think Irving has the talent, but his durability is concerning to say the least.
I agree with that part. I was having this conversation with a friend who's a Toronto fan recently. I think Tatum takes over in a few years but right now, it's Irving's team. When they're on the floor together, this is clear.
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disagree. Irving will be the primary leader as long as he's in Boston. But really the whole thing is silly. It takes a village to win a championship...
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Kyrie is still the offensive alpha.
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Kyrie is still the offensive alpha.
This.
Kryie is the big dog.
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Kyrie is still the offensive alpha.
so then you disagree
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If you poll the casual NBA fan (one that watched some games last season), I am willing to bet they will name kyrie first, more than any one, if asked who plays for the Celtics. The face of the franchise goes to the person who sells the most jerseys and who the fans know most. Until that's Tatum then he isn't the face.
I'm in no way saying he can't be, eventually, but he isnt yet and I don't even think it's even close enough to debate.
Oh, even if the discussion is only based on play then I still don't think it's a debate yet. I don't think it has to be that way until Irving leaves, if Tatum is better, I just don't see how it's really a question now.
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Kyrie is still the offensive alpha.
so then you disagree
With Nick Wright? Yes, presumably (I didn’t listen to what he said, and took your word for it.)
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My wife asked me which Celtics jersey to buy for my birthday, and I told her that the only person that is safe is Jayson Tatum. So, I complete agree.
In order for Ainge to trade Tatum, he's going to have to get a haul. The teams that have the kind of haul that we're looking for are also trying to accumulate the same haul.
This is Tatum's team as he is the only untouchable.
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My wife asked me which Celtics jersey to buy for my birthday, and I told her that the only person that is safe is Jayson Tatum. So, I complete agree.
In order for Ainge to trade Tatum, he's going to have to get a haul. The teams that have the kind of haul that we're looking for are also trying to accumulate the same haul.
This is Tatum's team as he is the only untouchable.
;D
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Kyrie is still the offensive alpha.
so then you disagree
With Nick Wright? Yes, presumably (I didn’t listen to what he said, and took your word for it.)
lol. Fair.
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How have so many people completely forgotten how good Irving is?
I know we as sports fans tend to have short memories for some things, but come on. This is lunacy.
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For me, its whoever can carry the team the deepest into the playoffs
We all know Kyrie has helped the Cavs win a championship. But if he keeps getting injured and Tatum is there at the finish line.... I agree with Nick
Next season (assuming Kyrie is still a Celtic).. I think we will have a better idea
In terms of untouchable. Well Tatum imo is at the top of the list
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Next year I don't think he is, thats still Kyrie and possibly even Hayward at number 2 depending on how he comes back.
But Two/three years and beyond. Absolutely.
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I've always found the whole "it's X player's team" argument to be on the ridiculous side of things.
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I thought the whole point of a team was that it's everyone's team and not 1 guys
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Kyrie is still the offensive alpha.
so then you disagree
With Nick Wright? Yes, presumably (I didn’t listen to what he said, and took your word for it.)
the whole clip is fairly interesting (I actually have this on in the background when I'm getting ready in the morning and heard it live). He obviously believes Irving is Boston's best player, but had an interesting take on Tatum. It is probably worth a listen (it isn't that long).
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How have so many people completely forgotten how good Irving is?
I know we as sports fans tend to have short memories for some things, but come on. This is lunacy.
yeah, sometimes hot takes are just meant to shake things up. no way is this Tatum's team next year. It might never be 'his' team, who knows?
He could have said 'for the Celtics, all the starters next year should make big contributions' but I guess the simple truth doesn't sell.
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How does Nick Wright do a show with Lebron’s balls in his mouth?
ok that was offensively funny! I laughed at the screen.
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How does Nick Wright do a show with Lebron’s balls in his mouth?
ok that was offensively funny! I laughed at the screen.
I just hate that guy. All he does is shill for Lebron. I would love to punch him in the face
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How does Nick Wright do a show with Lebron’s balls in his mouth?
ok that was offensively funny! I laughed at the screen.
I just hate that guy. All he does is shill for Lebron. I would love to punch him in the face
I have to admit, I didn't even know who he was. I don't have FS1.
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How does Nick Wright do a show with Lebron’s balls in his mouth?
ok that was offensively funny! I laughed at the screen.
I just hate that guy. All he does is shill for Lebron. I would love to punch him in the face
I have to admit, I didn't even know who he was. I don't have FS1.
I didnt either..I was thinking it was coach Nick from B-Ball Breakdown who I trust....
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I hate all that crap about whose team it is. Who cares? They are going to have a lot of scoring options with multiple players who can create their own shot.
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Nick Wright is just mad Kyrie left Lebron's team and probably hurt their already-slim chances of winning a title this year too :laugh:
Although apparently he also thinks we should trade Kyrie in a three team trade to NYK and in it, get back Lebron (like the Ringer article posted).
Him and Cowherd yesterday on a Youtube segment agreed Boston's roster is the most talented out of all the team's for Lebron to join (even over Houston and Philly).
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ1EsZ0Ws60
(I wouldn't do it btw. I'd just stay relatively pat and go from there)
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doesn't mean much, not long ago the C's were considered Rondo's team by media
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doesn't mean much, not long ago the C's were considered Rondo's team by media
rondo was named captain of the team by Ainge
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Looks like a 3-way battle. Can either be Kyrie/Hayward's vs Brown/Tatum's vs Horford's team. 8)
At the end of the day, they all have one common goal and that is to win a championship for the Celtics.
P.S. this is Brad Stevens' team. Our very own superstar in coaching.