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Title: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: FLCeltsFan on January 02, 2018, 10:23:41 PM
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Cleveland Cavaliers (25-12) at Boston Celtics (30-10)
Wednesday, January 3, 2018
8:00 PM ET
Regular Season Game #41 Home Game $22
TV: ESPN,  NBCSB,  FSO
Radio: 98.5 Sports Hub, WMMS 100.7
TD Garden

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Probable Starters
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PG:  Kyrie Irving  ........................................ SG:  Jaylen Brown

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C:  Aron Baynes

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SF:  Jayson Tatum   ............................................ PF:  Al Horford 

Celtics Reserves
Daniel Theis
Shane Larkin
Abdel Nader
Terry Rozier
Marcus Smart
Guerschon Yabusele
Marcus Morris

Injuries

Semi Ojeleye (back) game time decision

Two Way Players
Jabari Bird
Kadeem Allen
 
Head Coach
Brad Stevens 

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Probable Starters
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PG:  Jose Calderon  ................ SG:  JR Smith

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C:  Kevin Love   

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SF: LeBron James................. PF: Jae Crowder

Cavs Reserves
Channing Frye
Jeff Green
Kyle Korver
Cedi Osman
Dwyane Wade
Tristan Thompson
Ante Zizic

Injuries
Isaiah Thomas (rest) out
Iman Shumpert  (knee)  out
Derrick Rose (ankle)  out

Two Way Players
John Holland
London Perrantes

Head Coach

Tyronn Lue
 
Game Notes
The Celtics and Cavaliers meet for the second of three games this season, and the first played at the TD Garden.  They played on opening night in Cleveland on 10/17 and just 5 plus minutes into the game they lost their star free agent, Gordon Hayward, to a gruesome ankle injury.  In spite of being rattled by that injury and falling behind by 18, the Celtics came back to lose by just 3 points. 

They will play for the 3rd and final time in the regular season on February 11, which is the night that the Celtics have set aside to honor Paul Pierce and retire his number.  Isaiah Thomas played his first game as a Cavalier on Tuesday night against Portland but will not play in this game.  IT's return helped the Cavs get a 127-110 win over Portland with Isaiah scoring 17 points in 18 minutes of play. 

He has asked the Celtics not to play a tribute video for him in this game since he can't play.  That leaves Paul Pierce's night for an Isaiah Thomas tribute as well.   Isaiah should get a standing ovation and a warm welcome from the Celtics fans at the Garden in spite of not playing.  Even though Isaiah has been very critical of Danny Ainge and the Celtics leadership,  he has always shown love for his former teammates as well as for Celtics fans. 

Also returning to the Garden for the first time since being traded in the off season is Jae Crowder.  Jae also gave his all for the Celtics each time he took the court.  He should also get a warm welcome from the crowd.  He is still a little hurt by the fact that Celtics fans cheered for Gordon Hayward when he came to Boston and mentioned that since the fans cheer for opposing players they should at least cheer for him.   It should be an interesting night.

The Cavaliers are playing in the second of back to back games while the Celtics have had 2 days rest for the second time in as many games.  The Celtics are 16-5 at home while the Cavaliers are 10-8 on the road.  Both teams are 6-4 in their last 10 games.  The Celtics have won their last 3 games while the Cavs lost 3 straight before Tuesday's win over the Blazers. 

Marcus Morris' knee seems to be back to normal and should play in this game.  Semi Ojeleye has missed the past 4 games and is a game time decision for this game.  Derrick Rose is still out for the Cavs with an ankle injury.  Iman Shumpert is out with a knee injury and Isaiah will sit out for rest. 

Key Matchups
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Aron Baynes vs Kevin Love
Baynes isn't the strongest defender when it comes to stretch 5's like Love.  We may see Marcus Morris start at power forward once again with Al Horford at center to cover Love.  Love is averaging 20.2 points, 10.2 rebounds and 1.8 assists.  He is also shooting 40.9% from beyond the arc, so they have to stay with him whether he is in the paint or on the perimeter.   

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Jayson Tatum vs LeBron James 
The rookie will find himself in the unenviable position of having to slow down LeBron, who is averaging 27.8 points, 8.2 rebounds and 9.2 assists while shooting 55.9% from the field.  It is also possible that Marcus Morris or Jaylen Brown will cover LeBron for part of the game since both have had success in the past.

Honorable Mention
Marcus Smart vs Dwyane Wade
Wade has played well since going to the bench.  He, like Smart, comes off the bench and is usually on the court at the end of the game.  Wade  is averaging 11.2 points, 3.7 rebounds and 3.9 assists.  He is shooting 44% from the field and 36.5% from beyond the arc. 

Player to Watch
Jae Crowder
Jae is going to be very motivated to get revenge against the team that he feels treated him unfairly.  Like Isaiah, he felt that the Celtics did not handle the trade very well.  Jae is very competitive normally and will be even more so in this game, wanting to beat his former team in front of their home crowd. 

Keys to the Game
Defense Defense Defense!! Defense is key to winning every game.   The Cavs are 5th in the league averaging 110.1 points while the Celtics are 21st averaging just 103.5 points.  The Celtics need to clamp down on defense if they want to get a win.  The Celtics are still first in the league with a defensive rating of 100.8 while the Cavs are 28th with a defensive rating of 108.7.  If the Celtics win this game, it will be with defense. 

Rebound - The Celtics can't score if they don't have the ball.  This was the Celtics' biggest weakness last season but the team has more length and more athleticism this season and rebounded well to begin the season but have slacked off a bit recently.  Much of rebounding is effort and so the Celtics have to work hard to beat the Cavs to rebounds.  The Cavs are averaging 41.8 rebounds while the Celtics are averaging 44.0 rebounds.  If the Celtics put out effort, they can win the rebounding battle. 

Be Aggressive -  The Celtics must be the more aggressive team.  They have to beat the Cavs to every loose ball and win the 50/50 plays.  They have to be aggressive on the boards and in driving into the paint and to the basket.  The more aggressive team will usually get the benefit of the doubt from the refs as well.   They have to be the team that works harder and the team that wants it more.     

Focus - The Celtics have to remain focused and block out the distractions of playing the Cavs, who everyone feels is the team to beat in the East.  They have to focus on taking good shots and they have to make them.  They have to focus on taking the Cavs out of their comfort zone and out of their game.  They can't let all the hoopla over IT and Jae returning take away their focus on playing Celtics basketball. 

X-Factors
Fatigue  - The Celtics finally have had some rest between games.  The Cavs, on the other hand, played the Trailblazers on Tuesday night and had to travel afterwards.  Unfortunately, the Cavs starters were able to keep their minutes all under 33 minutes.  The Celtics should be the more rested team, however and need to take advantage of that. 

Home Game  - The Celtics have the advantage of playing at home in front of what should be a very loud crowd.   The Celtics have to get motivation and energy from the crowd and hopefully the crowd will be able to frustrate the Cavs at the same time. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-0) at Cavaliers (0-0) Game #10/17/17
Post by: csfansince60s on January 02, 2018, 10:24:38 PM
TP, FLCeltsFan for all the work you do to create these game threads!

Now it's time for our Cs to go to work and beat the reigning EC chumps....I mean champs.

First game of the year....bad memories....our prize FA taken out on a play that was at best reckless and at worst, malicious.

Let's spank the little "gifted child", Bron Bron and send him home whining.

Go Cs!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-0) at Cavaliers (0-0) Game #10/17/17
Post by: liam on January 02, 2018, 10:24:43 PM
Go Celts
Title: Re: Celtics (0-0) at Cavaliers (0-0) Game #10/17/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on January 02, 2018, 10:25:20 PM
TP to csfansince60s and liam for being the first to post in the game thread!!
And thanks csfan for your kind words!!! 

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 02, 2018, 10:34:20 PM
Let's give IT and Crowder a hell of a welcome.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 02, 2018, 10:41:12 PM
How many whines will LeCry have .   He ll get one Tech ,  should get two , but the NBA does notnhave the nads to toss him on national TV. 

20 whines ,  15 head shakes ,  5 flops .......and one TECH

20-15 -5.    for Lewhine.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 02, 2018, 10:42:58 PM
Time to prove why we have the best record in the east.  Let's go C's!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 08:41:12 AM
sixth man, page 1.

C's win this one, much more confident than in the Houston game.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: apc on January 03, 2018, 08:48:37 AM
Not related to the game, but can the Cavs keep Lebron and IT next year assuming they both will want max ?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:20:39 AM
Will be interesting to see who starts tonight. With Love at Center, I don’t think the Baynes/Horford lineup will work. If Morris is healthy enough to start, I’d like to see him out there instead of Baynes to better matchup with Cleveland.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: footey on January 03, 2018, 09:28:06 AM
Cleveland starting to look like a well oiled machine. Give us a 50-50 chance tonight, and that's because IT resting.  Wade is playing really well.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:59:02 AM
A few more hours to wait. Go C's!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 10:21:36 AM
Beyond the war of the starters can't wait to watch the bench battle.

Korver
Green
Frye
Wade
Thompson

Smart
Rozier
Theis
Morris
Larkin

Should be a good one. "Battle of the rotations."

Celtics have yet to have an answer for Kevin Love. See who Stevens puts on him.
My guess is Irving will have a big game.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: hodgy03038 on January 03, 2018, 01:58:02 PM
Let's get this. We need a big win to let them question themselves.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: GreenEnvy on January 03, 2018, 03:03:17 PM
Let’s get it!!!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: nickagneta on January 03, 2018, 03:05:36 PM
Time for revenge! Go Celtics.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Dannys Chipotle Guy on January 03, 2018, 04:15:41 PM
Big game!

Statement opportunity for a lot of guys!

Looking at Al to exorcise some Lebron demons, Kyrie to put on a show, maybe Jayson Tatum officially announces his ROY candidacy? Who knows?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on January 03, 2018, 06:28:28 PM
Somebody will get up big and the other team will come storming back. Game is tight in the winning time.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 06:35:56 PM
I hope we don't get killed by Kevin Love tonight.

It always seems like while we focus on Lebron a ton, Kevin Love out of nowhere just has his best games against us.

Even last year's playoffs, he averaged 22 points, 12 rebounds a game in the 5 games.

Can't leave him out open in the perimeter all game, or he'll kill us there.

Unfortunately, Horford isn't a great match up for him, so we'll see how they handle Love tonight.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 03, 2018, 06:37:10 PM
If Horford gets 20 points and Rozier or Morris have big games, I think we'll win.

The only unfortunate part is that LeBron tries extra hard against the Celtics. He never takes games off against them, especially at the Garden.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: celticsclay on January 03, 2018, 06:38:06 PM
Interesting note, the Cavs are slight underdogs in this game (3 points). I am not that confident.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: saltlover on January 03, 2018, 06:43:55 PM
It will be an emotional game, with 5 technicals called (4 on the Celtics, one on Cleveland - Crowder most likely).  Someone on Cleveland will also earn a flagrant 1.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: GreenEnvy on January 03, 2018, 06:50:56 PM
Interesting note, the Cavs are slight underdogs in this game (3 points). I am not that confident.

If motivated, playoff-LeBron shows up, I don’t know if we can match the intensity.

I’m sure Kyrie will be amped for it, but will everyone else on the C’s be? You know LeBron and Crowder will be, and that should be enough to rally their team.

We shall see. Been awhile since we thoroughly outplayed Cleveland, tonight would be a good time to do that.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: apc on January 03, 2018, 06:54:21 PM
Somebody will get up big and the other team will come storming back. Game is tight in the winning time.
You just described all Celtics games ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 03, 2018, 07:00:11 PM
Lebron is ready he has four teamates on the floor and his three refs .....for a total of 8 on 5 .....

Lebron will get his patiented FREE pushoff with arms , elbows and hands on every offensive drive and the freethrows that go with pushoff.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 07:07:45 PM
Morris starting.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: hodgy03038 on January 03, 2018, 07:14:14 PM
Just a comment on Crowder. I think he was overrated when he was here. He certainly has been bad for Cleveland. Sick of his attitude. He looks tough but isn't (remembering the game where JR Smith intentionally flung his arm around and hit him in the face with no repercussions). Jae is really a pu**y in a tough guy body. I hope our 19 or 20 year old puts you on a poster!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: FLCeltsFan on January 03, 2018, 07:30:49 PM
Morris Starting

According to CBS Sports

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/celtics-marcus-morris-set-to-join-starting-five-wednesday/
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 07:34:16 PM
Just a comment on Crowder. I think he was overrated when he was here. He certainly has been bad for Cleveland. Sick of his attitude. He looks tough but isn't (remembering the game where JR Smith intentionally flung his arm around and hit him in the face with no repercussions). Jae is really a pu**y in a tough guy body. I hope our 19 or 20 year old puts you on a poster!

Okay, I think this is a bit excessive, but I will admit that Crowder's effort on the defensive end last year really did frustrate me. Definitely took a BIG step back there last season.

Of course, part of the reason MIGHT have been the C's cheering Hayward (opponent) and Crowder starting to get more annoyed with the C's fans, but still, I think Crowder sort of took it far with the whole Twitter rant afterwards, and then you could kind of tell his time in Boston was coming to an end. Ainge may have played around it at the time saying he spoke with Crowder, but I think even Ainge was a bit annoyed by it too.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Dino Pitino on January 03, 2018, 07:35:12 PM
We finally get to see Morris's legendary defense on LeBron.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Rosco917 on January 03, 2018, 07:45:36 PM
This would be a nice game to get a win.

If they're not up for this one, they have a problem.

Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 07:49:16 PM
This would be a nice game to get a win.

If they're not up for this one, they have a problem.

Yeah I really hope they don't come out asleep again.

They came out asleep 4 times in the ECF series last May, and they've been prone to doing that quite a bit in the past few weeks.  :(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 07:55:04 PM
Cavs on a second night of b2b.

Celtics return from a two day rest. No excuse to lose this game.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 07:56:20 PM
Ready to beat down the Cavs!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 07:57:40 PM
Cavs on a second night of b2b.

Celtics return from a two day rest. No excuse to lose this game.

The Cavs starters played low minutes last night in a blow out win.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:02:45 PM
Let's go, C's! Big game!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 08:04:36 PM
Let's go, C's! Big game!

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Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:05:42 PM
I hope The Celtics take this tonight and Lakers lose to OKC!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:09:47 PM
Let's go Celtics!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: makaveli on January 03, 2018, 08:10:29 PM
i just watched the pregame interview with IT...i loved every single second of it. unbelievable guy and a player. he was so funny as well.

LET's GO CELTICS!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 08:10:32 PM
Big game in July with playoff implications. Can't lose the tie breaker.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:11:19 PM
It will be interesting to see if Marcus (the Morris version) lives up to his advance billing as being Kryptonite to Lebron on the defensive side of the court. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:11:40 PM
What a move, oh my
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:13:43 PM
Look fairly tight offensively.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: bostonsportsforlife on January 03, 2018, 08:13:45 PM
LeBron's finishing is so insane man
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:14:03 PM
Cavs have come out playing with a lot of intensity especially on defense.  Remains to be seen if they can keep that up.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:16:16 PM
LeBron's finishing is so insane man

He's pretty much unstoppable in transition.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 08:18:56 PM
LeBron's finishing is so insane man

He's pretty much unstoppable in transition.
There is no way to defend that. Unless you have cloned Lebron in a lab somewhere.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:19:28 PM
Calderon can't guard anyone on our roster...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 08:19:44 PM
Tatum needs to learn how to use his left hand on left side drives. Got blocked twice.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 08:19:54 PM
Well, at least we aren't down big early!  ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 08:20:03 PM
Three fts for Brown... guesses for how many he hits? I'm crossing my fingers for two

EDIT: OMG he hit them all!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:20:04 PM
I actually really like how we've played so far. Our halfcourt D has been stifling, only allowing a tough Smith jumper with everything else coming from transition. Offensively, we're getting good looks and just have to start hitting them more.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 08:20:37 PM
Well, at least we aren't down big early!  ;D

Outside of those Lebron layups we've been better on both ends so far
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 08:20:39 PM
We are a little tentative but up nonetheless! Horford seems to go into an offensive blackhole vs Cavs- hope that ends tonight.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:20:58 PM
LeBron's finishing is so insane man

He's pretty much unstoppable in transition.
There is no way to defend that. Unless you have cloned Lebron in a lab somewhere.
Just trade for Kawhi and we'll have the next best thing
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 08:21:03 PM
LeBron's finishing is so insane man

He's pretty much unstoppable in transition.
There is no way to defend that. Unless you have cloned Lebron in a lab somewhere.

Best way to defend him is force him to take jumpers.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 08:22:27 PM
Atta boy Jaylen.  Knock down them FTs
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 08:22:50 PM
Three fts for Brown... guesses for how many he hits? I'm crossing my fingers for two


EDIT: OMG he hit them all!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:22:58 PM
Buy a Powerball ticket, folks, Jaylen hit all three of his free throws!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:23:31 PM
shock of shocks--JB makes all 3 FTs.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:24:30 PM
Horford is an expert at moving screens in the paint allowing KI to have a clear lane to make that layup.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:24:37 PM
Is it just me, or does Cleveland look tired already with lackluster effort?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 08:25:33 PM
We're winning the board battle so far.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 08:25:52 PM
JAYLEN!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 08:25:56 PM
Jalen with the productive 1st quarter.  Seems like he plays well against the cavs.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:26:13 PM
Jaylen plays well against The Cavs!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 08:27:05 PM
Like the energy, amazing how that happens when we are not 3 in 4 nights! Add Hayward and maybe Doncic or Porter or Bamba and lets call it a decade!  8)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 08:27:12 PM
Jalen with the productive 1st quarter.  Seems like he plays well against the cavs.

With Lebron carrying the chunk of scoring load for the Cavs, I don't think he can consistently defend athletic guys like Jaylen.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 08:30:07 PM
Good drive by Smart to the cup.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:30:11 PM
Smmmaahhhhttttt!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 08:31:44 PM
Marcus can shoot tonight!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 08:32:48 PM
TT is such a pain...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:32:55 PM
Soft call.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:33:01 PM
Marcus can shoot tonight!

Yeah, wow!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 08:33:12 PM
Great D by Baynes there.....so smart.

of course right after that he whiffs on another D play...lol
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 08:33:19 PM
Smart is having it tonight
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:33:58 PM
Ugh, how many bunnies have we missed already?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 08:34:48 PM
Heat check for Smart.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:34:52 PM
Annnnddddd Wade with the offensive foul
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:35:18 PM
Refs started off good, and now they're calling soft crap.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 08:35:35 PM
Marcus can shoot tonight!

Yeah, wow!

And Rozier is making an impact... stars aligning tonight?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 08:35:38 PM
Rozier has been awesome lately.  If he plays well we win this game.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:35:53 PM
T-Ro and Smart on FIYAH tonight!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:36:14 PM
Annnnddddd Wade with the offensive foul

Wade getting the all star call....
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on January 03, 2018, 08:36:24 PM
Coming up on 5 straight games the bench has played well.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:36:27 PM
Big 3 to finish the quarter by Rozier
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 08:36:38 PM
TT is such a pain punk...
Fixed it following his bullying of Brown.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Roy H. on January 03, 2018, 08:36:43 PM
Great shot, great quarter.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 08:36:44 PM
Rozier is showing the world he can play
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:37:16 PM
Nice 1st quarter for The Celtics!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 08:37:31 PM
Terry and Smart, big bench spark plugs! Love it so far!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 08:37:51 PM
great 1st quarter.  the struggle is always to keep it up the rest of the game.
everyone looks pretty sharp.  need to keep the intensity on D, or even increase it.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 08:37:55 PM
God forbid the dreaded 2nd quarter lull.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 08:38:06 PM
Keep it up C's!!

Hope Brad plays some of the starters longer minutes today.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:38:29 PM
Rozier is showing the world he can play

He's shown that already.  He's just better in an up tempo offense rather than the half court sets the C's run. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 08:39:05 PM
Think Smart is trying to channel his inner Curry..that one long three attempt I can do without but he is hitting more then he putting up so I will take it. :P
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 08:39:13 PM
Good start for the bench. When they are on, the C's are hard to beat.

Great 1st quarter.

Sadly, the 2nd quarter is coming up so I expect the lead to evaporate in about 3 minutes and the Cs to go ice cold shooting.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 08:39:30 PM
Rozier is showing the world he can play

He's shown that already.  He's just better in an up tempo offense rather than the half court sets the C's run.

Brad should seriously run different sets with different units.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: makaveli on January 03, 2018, 08:39:44 PM
besides letting lebron free runs at the basket, we have done a great job all arround.
i was so upset when Al kicked it out when he had CALDERON on him...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mainevent on January 03, 2018, 08:40:26 PM
I'm loving Terry this season so far.  I just hate when he starts dribbling in circles. When he's decisive he's been money! Really needs to improve his passing skillz however.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:40:33 PM
I'm LOVING this faster tempo we're playing with tonight.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 08:40:50 PM
I'm LOVING this faster tempo we're playing with tonight.

You must be like 3 minutes ahead of my stream LOL.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 08:40:56 PM
great play marcus!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Rosco917 on January 03, 2018, 08:41:02 PM
so far so good. Cavs look a step behind.

With Lebron playing all these minutes this year hopefully, it catches up with him come playoff time.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:42:33 PM
Rozier is showing the world he can play

He's shown that already.  He's just better in an up tempo offense rather than the half court sets the C's run.

I agree.  Plus train Rozier to run the backdoor cuts like AB used to run with the C's where he could prove to be deadly.

Brad should seriously run different sets with different units.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:42:47 PM
Baynes just rolled his ankle. Ouch
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on January 03, 2018, 08:42:51 PM
Why does Smart do stuff like that?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 08:43:09 PM
What's up with Baynes?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:43:31 PM
Ugh, come on, guys. Getting sloppy now.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:44:07 PM
What's up with Baynes?

turned his ankle!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 08:44:44 PM
Ugh, come on, guys. Getting sloppy now.

Great d, not taking advantage on offense...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:44:47 PM
Man Korver is so smooth
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:45:16 PM
Korver is heating up.  Catch and fire. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:45:59 PM
Uh, Brad, are you really trying to guard Lebron with Smart?? Haven't we had enough of that since last year's debacle?? I'd much rather have Smart on Korver.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 08:45:59 PM
Need Smart to cover Korver.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:46:07 PM
Omg, Theis!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
Theis vs Korver was not the shootout I anticipated
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:46:34 PM
Theis the unlikely answer to Korver's bombs!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on January 03, 2018, 08:46:43 PM
No. If Korver beats you so be it.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
you could hear brad say 'stay attached, stay attached!" to Rozier on that 3rd 3 from KK
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
you could hear brad say 'stay attached, stay attached!" to Rozier on that 3rd 3 from KK
Apparently Terry couldn't :D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: bostonsportsforlife on January 03, 2018, 08:47:59 PM
Theis hitting a stepback three is one of the last things I expected to happen tonight
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 03, 2018, 08:48:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/O39x7I3.jpg)

2 THREES IN A ROW FOR THEIS!


(https://i.imgur.com/wGUUoBo.gif)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 08:48:18 PM
Theis Theis Baby!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 08:48:26 PM
Ray Theis!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 08:48:44 PM
Uh, Brad, are you really trying to guard Lebron with Smart?? Haven't we had enough of that since last year's debacle?? I'd much rather have Smart on Korver.

I agree.  It is awesome that we can switch so much, but we need to try as much as possible to keep a taller guy on Lebron.  Semi, Morris, Jaylen...no Marcus / Rozier switches on lebron
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on January 03, 2018, 08:48:57 PM
The bench guys!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 08:48:59 PM
Good to see Theis shooting the 3 more often lately. Wasn't really hooting much of it early on in the season. He can make that shot.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 03, 2018, 08:49:29 PM
you could hear brad say 'stay attached, stay attached!" to Rozier on that 3rd 3 from KK
Apparently Terry couldn't :D
Smart has to be on Korver. Rozier isn't as good chasing him around
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 08:49:47 PM
Can Irving come in now. Need to keep scoring.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:49:56 PM
Uh, Brad, are you really trying to guard Lebron with Smart?? Haven't we had enough of that since last year's debacle?? I'd much rather have Smart on Korver.

I agree.  It is awesome that we can switch so much, but we need to try as much as possible to keep a taller guy on Lebron.  Semi, Morris, Jaylen...no Marcus / Rozier switches on lebron

They weren't even switches either lol Smart was legitimately assigned to guard Lebron in that lineup, which is nuts.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 08:50:12 PM
Oh..by the way, IT in orange looks so wrong..like a Vegan in a Steakhouse.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:50:32 PM
Ray Theis!

Theisman!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 08:50:41 PM
Maybe we should stop leaving Korver open.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:50:49 PM
Oh..by the way, IT in orange looks so wrong..like a Vegan in a Steakhouse.

Nice TP!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 08:50:50 PM
We left korver open. Where was kyrie  or brown
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:52:09 PM
We left korver open. Where was kyrie  or brown
Lol what? Kyrie threw a pass from the baseline that Morris caught. How was he supposed to get to Korver in the corner in ~3 seconds?

Brown has no excuse though lol
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 03, 2018, 08:52:26 PM
Theis Theis Baby!

(https://i.imgur.com/uydPKb8.jpg)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 08:53:26 PM
I am seriously going to suggest we might need to consider doubling Lebron in transition.
No one is even slowing him down.  Gotta stop the ball, 1st rule of transition def
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:53:30 PM
Has Love ever played a game against the Celtics were he didn't get hurt!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 08:53:53 PM
Big shot by Smart.  We needed that 3.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:54:04 PM
I am seriously going to suggest we might need to consider doubling Lebron in transition.
No one is even slowing him down.  Gotta stop the ball, 1st rule of transition def
Hurts to do that when Korver is in
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 08:54:50 PM
Pass the dang ball when you're triple teamed Morris...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:54:58 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 08:55:02 PM
Morris triple teamed and still looked like he wanted to shoot
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 08:55:16 PM
I am seriously going to suggest we might need to consider doubling Lebron in transition.
No one is even slowing him down.  Gotta stop the ball, 1st rule of transition def
Hurts to do that when Korver is in

We either let Lebron get layups, or Korver hitting 3s...ugg I dunno.  We need to play stronger D on Lebron in transition.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: 2short on January 03, 2018, 08:55:27 PM
In a series i don't see cavs sticking with us
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 08:56:28 PM
Green, when properly motivated, is still a talented player.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:57:05 PM
BS soft call!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:57:10 PM
Here come the calls
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:57:30 PM
Beautiful pass by Smart but MM slow to load and get up underneath the basket.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:57:48 PM
Here come the calls

Is Morris's head part of the ball?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 08:58:25 PM
Here come the calls

Cavs getting some home cooking in Boston!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:58:56 PM
How old is Al Horford again?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:59:04 PM
BIGGG ALLLL!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 08:59:29 PM
Are you ****ing joking?
Blow the whistle after he misses and yells?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 08:59:33 PM
Ainges laugh says it all
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 08:59:44 PM
Nice feed by KI for the Horford dunk...with emphasis.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 08:59:48 PM
Yes, let's wait to see if Lebron misses it so we can help him out, refs.  ::)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 09:00:07 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:01:20 PM
Those delayed calls just feel so dirty.  If it was a foul, call it on the spot, not after lebron misses.
ugggg
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 09:01:20 PM
Really late whistle!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:01:20 PM
React to the results of the play, not the play itself - the hallmark of bad officiating.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 09:01:20 PM
Are you ****ing joking?
Blow the whistle after he misses and yells?

Such a joke of a call.

Not much p---es me off in this world, more than calls like that.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 09:01:52 PM
Anyone seeing this Nike kyrie 4 commercial with Tatum? Lol that was cool.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 09:02:09 PM
Casper with a foul on Queenie..wth
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Lol, guess because he's a professional he's not deserving of any criticism right? Give me a break
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:03:27 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.

Love me some Brad apologists, or should I say - Bradpologists?!  ;)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 09:03:50 PM
What a move by Tatum!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 09:04:58 PM
What a move by Tatum!

NUTS!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:05:05 PM
Tatum doesn't look like a rookie.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:05:28 PM
SMMAAHHHTTTT TO T-RO!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 09:05:37 PM
I really dislike JR Smith...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:05:42 PM
Smart!!!! 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:05:48 PM
Go figure JR Smith makes that.  Ugh.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:05:57 PM
Who the hell left J.R. Smith wide open
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 03, 2018, 09:06:35 PM
Gonna need more from Irving, but can't complain about that half.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:07:11 PM
Well, the Cavs ain't gonna shoot 35% in the 2nd half, and Love isn't going to go scoreless.  A solid half though, I'll gladly take it.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:07:38 PM
1st half
Celtics
bench - 30 points
starters - 25 points

interesting
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:07:52 PM
Tatum doesn't look like a rookie.

...except on the wide open 3 attempt where he stepped backwards for no reason (already wlll back of the 3 pt line) instead of shortening the distance to the hoop.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:08:16 PM
Who's defending Kyrie?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:08:18 PM
I really dislike JR Smith...

me too, to me he is cocky and entitled and doesn't play def.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 09:08:32 PM
Who the hell left J.R. Smith wide open
Well, it was like a 40 foot 3 pt shot.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 09:09:17 PM
Holding them to under 50, we are playing with some fire although not perfect, will take 8pt lead vs the Cavs ! When Terry and Smart are on, hard to stop us! Terry sometimes looks like he could become a serious player in this league.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:09:37 PM
1st half
Celtics
bench - 30 points
starters - 25 points

interesting
Theis has been the highlight
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: nickagneta on January 03, 2018, 09:10:21 PM
Gotta be happy with this first half. If Korver doesn't get hot, Cs would be up 14-17 points.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 09:13:13 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Lol, guess because he's a professional he's not deserving of any criticism right? Give me a break

Implying you know more than he does, or would make better decisions humors me.

Every game people are questioning him.

If anyone of them actually sat down with him, and asked why do you do these things I think you shouldn't, they would leave going, wow, I was completely wrong.

But go ahead, and think you could coach a game better than Brad.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:13:20 PM
Hopefully Irving can be our King of the 4th tonight.

Might need it.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:13:52 PM
We miss Gordon Hayward. This would've been a blow out.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:14:41 PM
5 TPs says that the first play the Cavs run in the 3rd quarter is a play for Kevin Love.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 09:15:58 PM
I really dislike JR Smith...
I dislike this whole Cavs roster.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mainevent on January 03, 2018, 09:16:12 PM
On a side note, the Nets are competitive this season and really gaining confidence.  Doesn't look like that draft pick is going to be worth the value the Cavs were hoping for  ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:16:15 PM
C's have to play at a fast tempo this 2nd half as well.

Cleveland's old legs (besides Lebron) won't be able to withstand that.  ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:18:06 PM
I really dislike JR Smith...
I dislike this whole Cavs roster.
Leave poor Ante alone
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:19:05 PM
I really dislike JR Smith...
I dislike this whole Cavs roster.
Leave poor Ante alone

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/e82c2cd09db0bf410917cda2ef22ffd4/tenor.gif?itemid=4986298)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Chief on January 03, 2018, 09:19:36 PM
LeBron's age really shows on man defense. He's terrible.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:20:47 PM
LeBron's age really shows on man defense. He's terrible.
Still gets token DPOY and All-Defence consideration. It's ridiculous
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: 2short on January 03, 2018, 09:21:29 PM
LeBron's age really shows on man defense. He's terrible.
So wait he's slow on switches and man to man....shouldn't he get more fouls called on him  :o
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
5 TPs says that the first play the Cavs run in the 3rd quarter is a play for Kevin Love.

Nice one!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:22:39 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Lol, guess because he's a professional he's not deserving of any criticism right? Give me a break

Implying you know more than he does, or would make better decisions humors me.

Every game people are questioning him.

If anyone of them actually sat down with him, and asked why do you do these things I think you shouldn't, they would leave going, wow, I was completely wrong.

But go ahead, and think you could coach a game better than Brad.

So pretty much what Gouki said? Gotcha.

Let fatalism reign - Brad is now beyond reprieve, everybody. He has successfully overcome human fallibility.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:23:20 PM
Cmon that's clearly off of Love. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:23:24 PM
Al didnt go after that rebound on the Crowder miss for 3...and the possession continues.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 09:23:27 PM
Morris isn’t getting any calls tonight.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:23:59 PM
Yet another officiating error leading to a Cavs bucket. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:24:04 PM
that was off of love clearly
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:24:09 PM
Moronic refs
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: bostonsportsforlife on January 03, 2018, 09:24:17 PM
Nice dish by Tatum
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:24:21 PM
You don't let Jose Calderon hit those.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 03, 2018, 09:24:27 PM
This game reminds me of another reason, I don't for LeBron as a player subsidized scoring with phantom fouls by the refs and special treatment for him and his teammates.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:24:38 PM
And it leads to a Calderon 3. 

That was a beautiful pass by Tatum.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: 2short on January 03, 2018, 09:24:39 PM
I always wanted calerdon as a backup or 3rd string pg on team.  Solid guy
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Rosco917 on January 03, 2018, 09:24:50 PM
my but Crowder is so regular
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:24:53 PM
Kevin Love plays for fouls so much inside its hilarious
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
Lol Love stays in the backcourt complaining and allows a wide open transition three for Tatum.  ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:25:09 PM
Vet Rook for 3!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:25:34 PM
That's the shot for Tatum.  Caught the ball in stride and released going toward the basket.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:25:49 PM
Brown was looking to find Tatum on that one.  I like that kind of chemistry.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 09:25:57 PM
"Brown to Tatum" has a beautiful ring!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:26:37 PM
And it leads to a Calderon 3. 

That was a beautiful pass by Tatum.

AL at least redeemed himself with a 3 on the other end so a net 0 for those 2 possessions but still...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 09:27:27 PM
This espn stream app is horrible. How does a company like that have crappy tech in this day and age?

Celtics looking great even in crappy lag and short freezes !
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jambr380 on January 03, 2018, 09:27:27 PM
Great passing this half leading to open 3s...especially impressive by the young guys, too.

Let's keep pushing up this lead. I really don't want this to even be close!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:27:44 PM
"Brown to Tatum" has a beautiful ring!

2016 to 2017!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 09:28:10 PM
It's crazy we really do look like a better team than the Cavs
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:29:03 PM
Man, this Cavs team looks FATIGUED already. Just no energy at all.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:29:03 PM
It's crazy we really do look like a better team than the Cavs

The biggest difference is pace. When C's play fast paced, Cavs struggle.

Even when IT returns, that will be a strength for the C's. Also, Isaiah's defense won't save them lol.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 09:29:04 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Lol, guess because he's a professional he's not deserving of any criticism right? Give me a break

Implying you know more than he does, or would make better decisions humors me.

Every game people are questioning him.

If anyone of them actually sat down with him, and asked why do you do these things I think you shouldn't, they would leave going, wow, I was completely wrong.

But go ahead, and think you could coach a game better than Brad.

So pretty much what Gouki said? Gotcha.

Let fatalism reign - Brad is now beyond reprieve, everybody. He has successfully overcome human fallibility.

Funny.

For real, do you think, if you sat down with Brad, and said "I disagree with X, Y, and Z", do you think he would just say, "boy, you are right, what was I thinking" or would he say "I did that for reason A, B, C"?.

He makes the decisions he does for [dang] good reasons, and it is hilarious to me that so many people here think they could improve on what he brings and his decisions.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:29:55 PM
nice steal Brown
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:30:35 PM
Tatum and Brown.  Both are just going to be beasts in transition.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 09:30:36 PM
Tatum outplaying the Cavs  :D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:30:45 PM
This is why I wouldn't trade two of Brown/Tatum/LakersPick (in addition to everything else) for Anthony Davis.

 ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 03, 2018, 09:31:09 PM
Tatum is good.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Cman on January 03, 2018, 09:31:18 PM
Great passing this half leading to open 3s...especially impressive by the young guys, too.

Let's keep pushing up this lead. I really don't want this to even be close!
Agreed. Foot to the pedal. Pedal to the metal.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: nickagneta on January 03, 2018, 09:31:34 PM
Boy, Brown is having a good game. Really playing within himself. Stellar defense. Excellent passing. And rebounding the ball as good as any Celtic. He doesn't have a ton of points, but he is having an exceptional game
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:31:53 PM
Great, my stream f'n stopped.

This stream had the CSNNE coverage. I think the others are ESPN (ugh)...  :o
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Billz401 on January 03, 2018, 09:31:54 PM
I love seeing Tatum aggressive like that
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 09:32:07 PM
Tatum needs to learn how to use his left hand on left-hand drives. He is switching to his exposed right hand at the rim and getting blocked.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:32:24 PM
Beautiful pass from KI to AH.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:33:05 PM
Tatum needs to learn how to use his left hand on left-hand drives. He is switching to his exposed right hand at the rim and getting blocked.

I agree.  Needs to work on that...when the C's finally get a break.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:33:09 PM
Man wth stop making dumbass half court passes
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:33:30 PM
Random question, but was Anna Horford (Horford's sis) THIS active on Twitter during his days in Atlanta?  :P
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:33:32 PM
Boy, Brown is having a good game. Really playing within himself. Stellar defense. Excellent passing. And rebounding the ball as good as any Celtic. He doesn't have a ton of points, but he is having an exceptional game

100% agree.  Brown has played great
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 09:33:47 PM
How do they think that looked like it was still on the way up???? Are you kidding me????
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:34:06 PM
Speaking of breaks, KI with the layup after the refs get it right (it was definitely on its way down).
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 03, 2018, 09:34:30 PM
looks like we showed up tonight
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:34:33 PM
i hate to say, I don't think that was a goaltend.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:35:44 PM
good D by Jaylen on that transition def, lebron got the ball around mid court and he attacked the ball, and got lebron to pass.  perfect
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 09:35:46 PM
looks like we showed up tonight

Rest vs No Rest!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:36:28 PM
Beautiful touch pass by Smart to JB in the corner.  Too bad it didnt fall.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:36:52 PM
What's wrong with Kyrie?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:36:52 PM
Stop take 3's. Drive in the lane, go for the layups.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 09:37:10 PM
I love brown
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:37:28 PM
I can already see the Cavs fans piling up with excuses after this.

"NO ISAIAH! NO REST! 2ND NIGHT OF BACK TO BACK!"  ::)

(I mean that may be partially true but the C's lost Hayward, also have injuries and have played more games than CLE up to this point)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 09:37:35 PM
I love brown

Me too!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:38:01 PM
I love brown

Me too!

Me three!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:38:27 PM
I love brown

Me too!

me 3.  If he can start faking that corner 3 at times, he will get to the rim with ease.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 09:38:34 PM
Where is Theis?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 09:38:39 PM
I love brown

Me too!

Me three!

Me four! ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 09:38:49 PM
Way too many 3s...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 09:39:06 PM
too many 3 s. Go to the hoop.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:39:10 PM
All these 3pt attempts. Whut. Why.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:39:10 PM
I love brown

Me too!

Me three!

Stooges?

WOOOPPPP, woooop, woooop, woooop, woooop
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:39:14 PM
Keep the pace going C's. Don't let up!

BUT ALSO STOP SHOOTING SO MANY 3'S...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:39:32 PM
Omg stop shooting 3's if they aren't falling.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 09:39:40 PM
Celtics 47%
Cavs 37%

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:39:42 PM
Bring back TRo!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:39:53 PM
Way too many 3s...

yeah we need to start attacking with our quickness to the rim.  cavs are about a step slower than us today across the board.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:40:20 PM
It's time to give Semi the red light on 3's this game. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 09:40:34 PM
Seriously, can someone tell me Ojeleye's 3P% this season?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: apc on January 03, 2018, 09:40:48 PM
Semi Smart
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Kevins Gamble on January 03, 2018, 09:41:00 PM
Thank god Baynes is in...the only person on the team that doesn't believe he can shoot threes.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 09:41:13 PM
Just remember, that's a travel on Smart... but nothing Lebron does is ever a travel...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:41:30 PM
Just when you drive to the lane for an and-1, you get called for traveling.

START GOING FOR LAYUPS MAN.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 03, 2018, 09:41:36 PM
Celtics getting nothing good on offense. Nothing.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 09:41:39 PM
I hate this lineup.  If Kyrie isn’t hitting they are anemic shooting.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 09:41:46 PM
Keeping the Cavs in the game right now. They will make a run.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:41:57 PM
Ugh they're going to come back at this rate..
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 09:42:14 PM
Thank god Baynes is in...the only person on the team that doesn't believe he can shoot threes.
He’s OK!!  Not hurt.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:42:34 PM
All of their 3pt% will be down after tonight's game. Maybe not Theis.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: apc on January 03, 2018, 09:43:13 PM
Celtics getting nothing good on offense. Nothing.
Good looks but keep missing
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:43:33 PM
-biting fingernails-
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: nickagneta on January 03, 2018, 09:43:49 PM
Lots of threes...but those were wide open, non-contested threes. Those were good shots. We just missed them.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:43:54 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Lol, guess because he's a professional he's not deserving of any criticism right? Give me a break

Implying you know more than he does, or would make better decisions humors me.

Every game people are questioning him.

If anyone of them actually sat down with him, and asked why do you do these things I think you shouldn't, they would leave going, wow, I was completely wrong.

But go ahead, and think you could coach a game better than Brad.

So pretty much what Gouki said? Gotcha.

Let fatalism reign - Brad is now beyond reprieve, everybody. He has successfully overcome human fallibility.

Funny.

For real, do you think, if you sat down with Brad, and said "I disagree with X, Y, and Z", do you think he would just say, "boy, you are right, what was I thinking" or would he say "I did that for reason A, B, C"?.

He makes the decisions he does for [dang] good reasons, and it is hilarious to me that so many people here think they could improve on what he brings and his decisions.

What's more hilarious is that you think coaches are infallible just because they coach in the NBA.  ;)

But, no, he would absolutely have his reasons for what he does; I just think he's wrong. Just because he has a reason that he does something doesn't mean that the reason is correct.

His preference to never call timeouts in late-game situations in favor of not letting the defense set is a perfect example of this. Sure, his reasons are logical, but they're absolutely wrong - in philosophical logic this is demonstrated as the difference between a valid argument and a sound argument. Brad's argument/gameplan is valid, but it's not sound. That particular gameplan has virtually never worked for us, and it's absolutely in contradiction with his elite (probably best in the NBA) skill of drawing up ATO plays.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:44:28 PM
This Cavs defense is pretty atrocious. We're getting wide open look after wide open look from three, yet we just can't knock crap down.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Kevins Gamble on January 03, 2018, 09:44:48 PM
Seriously, can someone tell me Ojeleye's 3P% this season?

Before tonight, 21-68 (31%)...definitely the guy we want launching shots here against a storming Cavs team.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 09:45:15 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Lol, guess because he's a professional he's not deserving of any criticism right? Give me a break

Implying you know more than he does, or would make better decisions humors me.

Every game people are questioning him.

If anyone of them actually sat down with him, and asked why do you do these things I think you shouldn't, they would leave going, wow, I was completely wrong.

But go ahead, and think you could coach a game better than Brad.

So pretty much what Gouki said? Gotcha.

Let fatalism reign - Brad is now beyond reprieve, everybody. He has successfully overcome human fallibility.

Funny.

For real, do you think, if you sat down with Brad, and said "I disagree with X, Y, and Z", do you think he would just say, "boy, you are right, what was I thinking" or would he say "I did that for reason A, B, C"?.

He makes the decisions he does for [dang] good reasons, and it is hilarious to me that so many people here think they could improve on what he brings and his decisions.

What's more hilarious is that you think coaches are infallible just because they coach in the NBA.  ;)

But, no, he would absolutely have his reasons for what he does; I just think he's wrong. Just because he has a reason that he does something doesn't mean that the reason is correct.

His preference to never call timeouts in late-game situations in favor of not letting the defense set is a perfect example of this. Sure, his reasons are logical, but they're absolutely wrong - in philosophical logic this is demonstrated as the difference between a valid argument and a sound argument. Brad's argument/gameplan is valid, but it's not sound. That particular gameplan has virtually never worked for us, and it's absolutely in contradiction with his elite (probably best in the NBA) skill of drawing up ATO plays.

I have never, ever said he is infallible. Ever.

But acting like he doesn't do the things he does (your gripe about his TO calling), for reasons that are far far better than your reasons for wanting him to do differently, is hilarious to me.

And I say that with a lot of respect, because I agree with you on most other things, and it is just you I have this particular grievance with.

Just don't get it.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:45:37 PM
Gotta love Horford and how slick he is at sealing off a defender allowing an open lane for a dunk by JB.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 09:46:05 PM
Great transition defense there by the Cavs.  LOL
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
I cringe every time Marcus Smart or any of the Celtics are standing behind the 3-point line waiting to launch.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:46:54 PM
These are some very questionable calls...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 09:47:30 PM
Lebron seems out of gas. Can't keep up with brown
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:47:42 PM
Headline tonight: Tired Cavs team _______ Celtics.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:47:55 PM
Why is Smart .. y'know... shooting all the time
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 09:47:57 PM
Why is Smart taking these shots?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:48:03 PM
Should be up 20, but another cold stretch means a nervewracking 4th Q...  :(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:48:08 PM
Ugh Smart...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:48:16 PM
Poor shot selection from Smart and a horrid iso to end the quarter.  That's just not winning basketball.  Run a play.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: bknova on January 03, 2018, 09:48:29 PM
I cringe every time Marcus Smart or any of the Celtics are standing behind the 3-point line waiting to launch.


The second unit, particularly, Rozier and Smart, need to be looking for and playing through or off Tatum or Brown more.  They should be the primary options when they are on the floor with these two guards.  Rosier looks for his shot first way too often
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 09:48:49 PM
K Love 1-11
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Larry for 3 on January 03, 2018, 09:49:19 PM
GO TO THE BASKET!!  The cavs can’t keep up. 2 many 3s
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 09:49:20 PM
Laker pick update:

Nets up 2 with 40 seconds left in game

Suns game tied in 2nd q

Bulls tied with raptors in 4th q 11 min left


Magic lost to rockets
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: apc on January 03, 2018, 09:50:26 PM
Smart  >:( :( :-* :'(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:50:28 PM
we have taken a whole lot of quick 3s tonight.  Smart, Kyrie, Semi a lot of guys need to stay a bit more patient.  We are scoring the ball taking it to the rim.  Keep up the good ball movement and we can get a decent 3 at any time.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Kevins Gamble on January 03, 2018, 09:50:29 PM
Smart is on pace for the most 3PA in his career this year...because apparently the sub-30% rate is acting as positive reinforcement for him.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 09:50:30 PM
Zero reason Smart should be taking clock down to zero and heaving a three. We are shooting too many threes and that is only  reason Cavs in semi striking distance- especially with Korver lurking.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:50:36 PM
Can't see the game. Is Kyrie on the bench?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on January 03, 2018, 09:50:49 PM
C's won't lose this game. I would like to see them close it out though before it gets any closer. They take some really dumb shots when they get a big lead.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:51:52 PM
Keep the Cavs under 90 would be nice.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:52:31 PM
Keep the Cavs under 90 would be nice.

How about we focus on winning this game first before setting goals, okay!  ;D

(Sorry I'm still nervous)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 09:52:46 PM
Tatum!!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 09:52:48 PM
Rozier is having a great night!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:53:11 PM
THERE WE GO TATUM. GO FOR THE 2.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Lol, guess because he's a professional he's not deserving of any criticism right? Give me a break

Implying you know more than he does, or would make better decisions humors me.

Every game people are questioning him.

If anyone of them actually sat down with him, and asked why do you do these things I think you shouldn't, they would leave going, wow, I was completely wrong.

But go ahead, and think you could coach a game better than Brad.

So pretty much what Gouki said? Gotcha.

Let fatalism reign - Brad is now beyond reprieve, everybody. He has successfully overcome human fallibility.

Funny.

For real, do you think, if you sat down with Brad, and said "I disagree with X, Y, and Z", do you think he would just say, "boy, you are right, what was I thinking" or would he say "I did that for reason A, B, C"?.

He makes the decisions he does for [dang] good reasons, and it is hilarious to me that so many people here think they could improve on what he brings and his decisions.

What's more hilarious is that you think coaches are infallible just because they coach in the NBA.  ;)

But, no, he would absolutely have his reasons for what he does; I just think he's wrong. Just because he has a reason that he does something doesn't mean that the reason is correct.

His preference to never call timeouts in late-game situations in favor of not letting the defense set is a perfect example of this. Sure, his reasons are logical, but they're absolutely wrong - in philosophical logic this is demonstrated as the difference between a valid argument and a sound argument. Brad's argument/gameplan is valid, but it's not sound. That particular gameplan has virtually never worked for us, and it's absolutely in contradiction with his elite (probably best in the NBA) skill of drawing up ATO plays.

I have never, ever said he is infallible. Ever.

But acting like he doesn't do the things he does (your gripe about his TO calling), for reasons that are far far better than your reasons for wanting him to do differently, is hilarious to me.

And I say that with a lot of respect, because I agree with you on most other things, and it is just you I have this particular grievance with.

Just don't get it.

I mean, you realize that you are pretty much saying this exact thing right here in the bolded parts, right?? lol

You're literally saying that Brad's reasons are always better than mine, which is pretty much the essence of infallibility!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 09:53:37 PM
That is it, I am on the Jayson is a superstar bandwagon.

This kid is ludicrous.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 09:53:47 PM
Tatum is so much better going to the hoop than I expected him to be.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 09:53:50 PM
Tatum!!!

Crazy good move!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 09:54:03 PM
Tatum used his left hand, on a left hand drive, yay!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 09:54:04 PM
Great start to the 4th
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:54:15 PM
Yes Baynes
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:54:19 PM
Tatum with the left hand n that nice drive.  Needs to keep going to it when the defender plays to defend the right.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:54:21 PM
Tatum is a monster on both ends already
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 09:54:30 PM
Tatum > Jeff Green. 

Better footwork.
Better 3 point shooter.
Better pullup midrange game.
Better rebounder.
Will soon be better defensively.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on January 03, 2018, 09:54:52 PM
Get LeBron out of the game Lue you idiot.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:55:00 PM
Tatum used his left hand, on a left hand drive, yay!

Great minds think alike.   ;)

TP
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 09:55:44 PM
That is it, I am on the Jayson is a superstar bandwagon.

This kid is ludicrous.

Markelle Fultz who? Lonzo Ball who? Josh Jackson who?

Jayson Tatum  8)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SaCaCh on January 03, 2018, 09:55:45 PM
I think the Cavs have mentally checked out. Believing the back to back thing as an excuse.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 09:55:46 PM
Tatum is pretty pretty pretty Amazing!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Rosco917 on January 03, 2018, 09:55:49 PM
The Celtics defense is back, amazing what a little rest can do.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 09:55:58 PM
Nets win!!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:56:08 PM
TATUM AND BROWN!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/vbNWVFTw5RdRe/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 09:56:18 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Lol, guess because he's a professional he's not deserving of any criticism right? Give me a break

Implying you know more than he does, or would make better decisions humors me.

Every game people are questioning him.

If anyone of them actually sat down with him, and asked why do you do these things I think you shouldn't, they would leave going, wow, I was completely wrong.

But go ahead, and think you could coach a game better than Brad.

So pretty much what Gouki said? Gotcha.

Let fatalism reign - Brad is now beyond reprieve, everybody. He has successfully overcome human fallibility.

Funny.

For real, do you think, if you sat down with Brad, and said "I disagree with X, Y, and Z", do you think he would just say, "boy, you are right, what was I thinking" or would he say "I did that for reason A, B, C"?.

He makes the decisions he does for [dang] good reasons, and it is hilarious to me that so many people here think they could improve on what he brings and his decisions.

What's more hilarious is that you think coaches are infallible just because they coach in the NBA.  ;)

But, no, he would absolutely have his reasons for what he does; I just think he's wrong. Just because he has a reason that he does something doesn't mean that the reason is correct.

His preference to never call timeouts in late-game situations in favor of not letting the defense set is a perfect example of this. Sure, his reasons are logical, but they're absolutely wrong - in philosophical logic this is demonstrated as the difference between a valid argument and a sound argument. Brad's argument/gameplan is valid, but it's not sound. That particular gameplan has virtually never worked for us, and it's absolutely in contradiction with his elite (probably best in the NBA) skill of drawing up ATO plays.

I have never, ever said he is infallible. Ever.

But acting like he doesn't do the things he does (your gripe about his TO calling), for reasons that are far far better than your reasons for wanting him to do differently, is hilarious to me.

And I say that with a lot of respect, because I agree with you on most other things, and it is just you I have this particular grievance with.

Just don't get it.

I mean, you realize that you are pretty much saying this exact thing right here in the bolded parts, right?? lol

You're literally saying that Brad's reasons are always better than mine, which is pretty much the essence of infallibility!

OK, his reasons are better 97% of the time. There may be 3% of the time that your ideas are better, but that is essentially always, and even when incorrect, the incredible odds in his favor, mean saying you go with what he is doing is the obvious choice.

Would you do the same thing if Popovich were our coach?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 09:56:22 PM
Love is out.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mainevent on January 03, 2018, 09:56:28 PM
Tatum is so much better going to the hoop than I expected him to be.

The best thing about his game is that he doesn't just settle for the 3 ball every time he's open like that. He'd rather take the higher percentage shot.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 09:56:29 PM
TATUM AND BROWN!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/vbNWVFTw5RdRe/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:56:37 PM
I think the Cavs have mentally checked out. Believing the back to back thing as an excuse.

Yeah it feels like that.  Last few missed shots by the cavs no one is even going after an off rebound.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
Nets win!!!

 a double whammy for Cavs fans..almost tempted to view their blog
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
Nets win!!!

Good news on 2 fronts.  Let's see the C make it a trifecta tonight. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 03, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Well... family took precedence over the game tonight.  My daughter's flight back to California was canceled due to the storm and we've been working on rearrangement plans.... 

And so -- I've missed what is looking like a phenomenal game so far from the boys in Green.   

PLEASE -- give me game synopsis....  Have C's been up all game or just taking over?   Who has looked good tonight?     
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 09:57:37 PM
TATUM AND BROWN!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/vbNWVFTw5RdRe/giphy.gif)
And another likely top pick?? AND our best player is 25 years old???

It's like something you dream of
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: esel1000 on January 03, 2018, 09:58:19 PM
Oh man everything but the dunk for Tatum...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 09:58:23 PM
Cavs are clearly tired on the second night of a back to back, but they've looked incredibly mortal this season when I've watched them.

I think people are sleeping on the C's as a true threat to the Cavs in the East. Even with IT back, that's only going to make their defense worse, and their improved offense won't be able to compensate for that poor D against a much more two-way oriented Boston team with elite defense. This is especially true if they continue to play Love at the center spot, which makes their D about as bad as it can be.

A convincing win tonight will do wonders for our team's mentality and confidence knowing that we can beat this team.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 09:58:39 PM
Well... family took precedence over the game tonight.  My daughter's flight back to California was canceled due to the storm and we've been working on rearrangement plans.... 

And so -- I've missed what is looking like a phenomenal game so far from the boys in Green.   

PLEASE -- give me game synopsis....  Have C's been up all game or just taking over?   Who has looked good tonight?   

Good balance from the C's, we have been up most of the game.  Smart and Rozier doing damage in the 1st half, and Brown and Tatum keeping us rolling in the 2nd half.  Love injured ankle, and we have been playing with a lot of energy.  Excellent game so far except for shooting a bit too many 3's.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 09:59:09 PM
LBJ on the bench?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 03, 2018, 09:59:55 PM
Well... family took precedence over the game tonight.  My daughter's flight back to California was canceled due to the storm and we've been working on rearrangement plans.... 

And so -- I've missed what is looking like a phenomenal game so far from the boys in Green.   

PLEASE -- give me game synopsis....  Have C's been up all game or just taking over?   Who has looked good tonight?   

Good balance from the C's, we have been up most of the game.  Smart and Rozier doing damage in the 1st half, and Brown and Tatum keeping us rolling in the 2nd half.  Love injured ankle, and we have been playing with a lot of energy.  Excellent game so far except for shooting a bit too many 3's.

TP -- thanks!   Cavs noticeably tired???
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 09:59:56 PM
I wish somebody would take the lid off of the basket for Smart, lol.  I actually think he's improved a lot at getting to his spots on the court, but it doesn't matter if the shots don't go in.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:00:01 PM
You can do better C's!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 10:00:08 PM
Love the floor generalship by Smart only to blow it at the rim. 

But follows with a 3.   ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 10:00:29 PM
Well... family took precedence over the game tonight.  My daughter's flight back to California was canceled due to the storm and we've been working on rearrangement plans.... 

And so -- I've missed what is looking like a phenomenal game so far from the boys in Green.   

PLEASE -- give me game synopsis....  Have C's been up all game or just taking over?   Who has looked good tonight?   
Our defence has been spectacular on everyone not named LeBron, and even with him we've been solid.
Love is shooting 1-11
Crowder is 0-5
Wade is 2-10
Green is 2-10

Our offence has been great too, as the shots have been really well spread across all our players. One of our better games
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 10:00:43 PM
LBJ on the bench?

Lue already waiving the white flag.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:00:56 PM
Still plenty of game left.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 10:01:09 PM
Well... family took precedence over the game tonight.  My daughter's flight back to California was canceled due to the storm and we've been working on rearrangement plans.... 

And so -- I've missed what is looking like a phenomenal game so far from the boys in Green.   

PLEASE -- give me game synopsis....  Have C's been up all game or just taking over?   Who has looked good tonight?   

The Cav's are not shooting well 37%
They look tired and old and done fer

C's are shooting lots of threes and a couple are going in.
Tatum 15
Brown 14
Smart 12
Irving 0-5 from trey

Cav's bus driver has the diesel running...hmmm
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 10:01:55 PM
Well... family took precedence over the game tonight.  My daughter's flight back to California was canceled due to the storm and we've been working on rearrangement plans.... 

And so -- I've missed what is looking like a phenomenal game so far from the boys in Green.   

PLEASE -- give me game synopsis....  Have C's been up all game or just taking over?   Who has looked good tonight?   

Good balance from the C's, we have been up most of the game.  Smart and Rozier doing damage in the 1st half, and Brown and Tatum keeping us rolling in the 2nd half.  Love injured ankle, and we have been playing with a lot of energy.  Excellent game so far except for shooting a bit too many 3's.

TP -- thanks!   Cavs noticeably tired???

Yeah, they seem to be lacking some energy.  bad shooting by the cavs, might be from being tired, not sure.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 10:02:00 PM
Man Terry has been on an absolute tear lately.  This is the Rozier I've been waiting to see.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:02:08 PM
Won't complain if it goes in.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 10:02:19 PM
Semi has been beyond bad tonight.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 10:02:44 PM
Semi has been beyond bad tonight.

He's been consistently bad this season.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Rosco917 on January 03, 2018, 10:02:54 PM
If only the Cavs could defend
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on January 03, 2018, 10:03:00 PM
Cavs are clearly tired on the second night of a back to back, but they've looked incredibly mortal this season when I've watched them.

I think people are sleeping on the C's as a true threat to the Cavs in the East. Even with IT back, that's only going to make their defense worse, and their improved offense won't be able to compensate for that poor D against a much more two-way oriented Boston team with elite defense. This is especially true if they continue to play Love at the center spot, which makes their D about as bad as it can be.

A convincing win tonight will do wonders for our team's mentality and confidence knowing that we can beat this team.

If the C's bench continues to improve they'll be a bigger threat. I like what I'm seeing from them lately.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 10:03:02 PM
Man, Rozier has looked really, really good lately, and he's been pairing nicely with Smart. This is the potential they have leading our bench unit.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Cman on January 03, 2018, 10:03:24 PM
Well... family took precedence over the game tonight.  My daughter's flight back to California was canceled due to the storm and we've been working on rearrangement plans.... 

And so -- I've missed what is looking like a phenomenal game so far from the boys in Green.   

PLEASE -- give me game synopsis....  Have C's been up all game or just taking over?   Who has looked good tonight?   

The Cav's are not shooting well 37%
They look tired and old and done fer

C's are shooting lots of threes and a couple are going in.
Tatum 15
Brown 14
Smart 12
Irving 0-5 from trey

Cav's bus driver has the diesel running...hmmm

And the Nets won :)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 10:03:27 PM
Make it a  30 pt lead!

I want this to be a statement game for the nba and media to finally respect the Celtics
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:03:31 PM
Rozier...crazy
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 03, 2018, 10:03:33 PM
Well... family took precedence over the game tonight.  My daughter's flight back to California was canceled due to the storm and we've been working on rearrangement plans.... 

And so -- I've missed what is looking like a phenomenal game so far from the boys in Green.   

PLEASE -- give me game synopsis....  Have C's been up all game or just taking over?   Who has looked good tonight?   
Our defence has been spectacular on everyone not named LeBron, and even with him we've been solid.
Love is shooting 1-11
Crowder is 0-5
Wade is 2-10
Green is 2-10

Our offence has been great too, as the shots have been really well spread across all our players. One of our better games
Thanks - TP!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 03, 2018, 10:03:55 PM
Terry Rozier?

What?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 10:04:07 PM
Trade Rozier, don’t resign Smart. They are only the best backup guards in the league.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 10:04:25 PM
Terry on five alarm fire!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Eja117 on January 03, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
Even with a good shooting night Smart hasn't scored as many points as Rozier even though he played ten less minutes. Terry also has as many rebs, and a block. 

If Smart deserves a ton of money then Terry does too.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Kevins Gamble on January 03, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
If I owned the Celtics, every time Smart made a three, I would appear on the Jumbotron and somberly say "don't cheer...you're only encouraging him".
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 10:04:33 PM
Rozier with a...game high 20?  Never thought I'd hear that but he's been playing extremely well...on both sides of the ball.  His D is much better tonight.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Ogaju on January 03, 2018, 10:04:37 PM
Rozier is coming into his own now.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 10:04:51 PM
Rozier...crazy

Celtics are super hard to beat when we get that kind of bench scoring!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 10:04:51 PM
ALL HAIL ROZIER!!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
Man Terry has been on an absolute tear lately.  This is the Rozier I've been waiting to see.

His last five games have been tremendous.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 10:05:09 PM
Jae 2 points
Love 2 points

Rozier 20 points.....................nice
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kozlodoev on January 03, 2018, 10:05:26 PM
Heat-check basketball is so aggravating...
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 10:05:35 PM
Terry be like

(https://i.imgur.com/50tqbqF.gif)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 10:05:48 PM
So if the Celtics actually get rest like 2 days rest in between games consistently, then their record would be much better than currently indicated.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 10:05:55 PM
That dumb lineup with Smart on Lebron and Rozier on Korver allowed Korver to get going. Dumb decision by Brad with all of the evidence we have of that defensive scheme not working.

If only you were there to let Brad know. Boy then he might really be a decent coach.

Too bad.
Lol, guess because he's a professional he's not deserving of any criticism right? Give me a break

Implying you know more than he does, or would make better decisions humors me.

Every game people are questioning him.

If anyone of them actually sat down with him, and asked why do you do these things I think you shouldn't, they would leave going, wow, I was completely wrong.

But go ahead, and think you could coach a game better than Brad.

So pretty much what Gouki said? Gotcha.

Let fatalism reign - Brad is now beyond reprieve, everybody. He has successfully overcome human fallibility.

Funny.

For real, do you think, if you sat down with Brad, and said "I disagree with X, Y, and Z", do you think he would just say, "boy, you are right, what was I thinking" or would he say "I did that for reason A, B, C"?.

He makes the decisions he does for [dang] good reasons, and it is hilarious to me that so many people here think they could improve on what he brings and his decisions.

What's more hilarious is that you think coaches are infallible just because they coach in the NBA.  ;)

But, no, he would absolutely have his reasons for what he does; I just think he's wrong. Just because he has a reason that he does something doesn't mean that the reason is correct.

His preference to never call timeouts in late-game situations in favor of not letting the defense set is a perfect example of this. Sure, his reasons are logical, but they're absolutely wrong - in philosophical logic this is demonstrated as the difference between a valid argument and a sound argument. Brad's argument/gameplan is valid, but it's not sound. That particular gameplan has virtually never worked for us, and it's absolutely in contradiction with his elite (probably best in the NBA) skill of drawing up ATO plays.

I have never, ever said he is infallible. Ever.

But acting like he doesn't do the things he does (your gripe about his TO calling), for reasons that are far far better than your reasons for wanting him to do differently, is hilarious to me.

And I say that with a lot of respect, because I agree with you on most other things, and it is just you I have this particular grievance with.

Just don't get it.

I mean, you realize that you are pretty much saying this exact thing right here in the bolded parts, right?? lol

You're literally saying that Brad's reasons are always better than mine, which is pretty much the essence of infallibility!

OK, his reasons are better 97% of the time. There may be 3% of the time that your ideas are better, but that is essentially always, and even when incorrect, the incredible odds in his favor, mean saying you go with what he is doing is the obvious choice.

Would you do the same thing if Popovich were our coach?


Absolutely. I don't watch the Spurs enough to pinpoint anything particularly, but I'm sure he has his issues that can be improved, too.

Granted, I'm not really Pop's biggest fan; his curmudgeon shtick gets old.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 10:06:14 PM
Jae 2 points
Love 2 points

Rozier 20 points.....................nice

He's also looked slooooow on defense hurting the Cavs on both sides of the court.. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Chief on January 03, 2018, 10:06:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/wRRYKwb.gif)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 10:06:30 PM
it was a bench battle tonight.

C's - 45 bench points
Cavs - 41 bench points
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 10:06:54 PM
Well... family took precedence over the game tonight.  My daughter's flight back to California was canceled due to the storm and we've been working on rearrangement plans.... 

And so -- I've missed what is looking like a phenomenal game so far from the boys in Green.   

PLEASE -- give me game synopsis....  Have C's been up all game or just taking over?   Who has looked good tonight?   
Our defence has been spectacular on everyone not named LeBron, and even with him we've been solid.
Love is shooting 1-11
Crowder is 0-5
Wade is 2-10
Green is 2-10

Our offence has been great too, as the shots have been really well spread across all our players. One of our better games
Thanks - TP!!
And Daniel Theis hit back to back threes, including a pump fake then step-back from the corner. Awesome stuff
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 10:07:39 PM
Crowder with 2 points on 1/8 shooting, but does have 7 rebounds.

But w/him gone, more minutes for Brown and Tatum to capitalize  8)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 10:07:48 PM
When will lue throw in the towel
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 03, 2018, 10:08:12 PM
Celtics have played intense def almost the whole night.  The effort has been there. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 10:08:31 PM
When will lue throw in the towel

Already has. 8)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 10:08:37 PM
Crowder with 2 points on 1/8 shooting, but does have 7 rebounds.

But w/him gone, more minutes for Brown and Tatum to capitalize  8)

Make it 1/9  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:08:44 PM
Is that Rozier's 2nd discontinued dribble?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Chief on January 03, 2018, 10:08:52 PM
Crowder with 2 points on 1/8 shooting, but does have 7 rebounds.

But w/him gone, more minutes for Brown and Tatum to capitalize  8)


Glad Bradley is gone too.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 10:08:52 PM
I'm thinking it's bear time.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:09:16 PM
Gino?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 10:09:59 PM
We held GS to 88 points. Are we going to best that against Cleveland??
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 10:10:07 PM
The only thing that can defend Tatum tonight is the rim, lol.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 10:10:22 PM
This game needs more Dancing Bear.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Ogaju on January 03, 2018, 10:10:37 PM
Does Charles Barkley still think this Celtic team is mediocre?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 10:10:42 PM
This game needs more Dancing Bear.

Agreed!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Eja117 on January 03, 2018, 10:10:46 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 10:10:47 PM
Put the rookies in! Cheeez...it's ovah
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 03, 2018, 10:11:04 PM
suck it cavs

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kraidstar on January 03, 2018, 10:11:20 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/7f24la7Z1a54k/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:11:43 PM
Please don't forget defense. Please don't forget defense.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 10:12:06 PM
Stating the obvious, but this Cavaliers team is SO ORDINARY w/o Lebron.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: liam on January 03, 2018, 10:12:15 PM
Does Charles Barkley still think this Celtic team is mediocre?

Bradley still has hurt feelings about the eighties Celtics!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kozlodoev on January 03, 2018, 10:12:16 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Yeah... Avery Bradley without the good shot selection and the premium defense. Otherwise, just like him.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/7f24la7Z1a54k/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:12:35 PM
Can they keep them under 90?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 10:13:02 PM
Bear + Nader = Gino
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Ogaju on January 03, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
I remember when Celtics drafted low and folks said Danny was a terrible drafter.

Now he has Rozier, Smart. Brown, and TATUM, and Tatum plus another possible lottery pick.

What a haul.

Hands down executive of the year.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Chief on January 03, 2018, 10:13:08 PM
Semi=LeBron stopper
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kozlodoev on January 03, 2018, 10:13:11 PM
Stating the obvious, but this Cavaliers team is SO ORDINARY w/o Lebron.
Just don't expect them to shoot 35% next time.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Eja117 on January 03, 2018, 10:13:30 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Yeah... Avery Bradley without the good shot selection and the premium defense. Otherwise, just like him.
He might be better at going to the hoop than Avery was and possibly a better passer and ball handler
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:13:58 PM
Nader has a point!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Rosco917 on January 03, 2018, 10:13:58 PM
Health and rest have done wonders for the Celtics. Super defensive effort.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 03, 2018, 10:14:13 PM
Stating the obvious, but this Cavaliers team is SO ORDINARY w/o Lebron.
Just don't expect them to shoot 35% next time.
Because their poor shooting is totally not reflective of our defence ::)
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 03, 2018, 10:14:27 PM
I assume IT and Crowder got good ovations.  Was there a Crowder video?

When/how did the crowd acknowledge IT since there was no video and he never entered the game?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 10:14:43 PM
I remember when Celtics drafted low and folks said Danny was a terrible drafter.

Now he has Rozier, Smart. Brown, and TATUM, and Tatum plus another possible lottery pick.

What a haul.

Hands down executive of the year.

Yes sir.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: apc on January 03, 2018, 10:14:55 PM
Not a great game for Morris
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kozlodoev on January 03, 2018, 10:15:10 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Yeah... Avery Bradley without the good shot selection and the premium defense. Otherwise, just like him.
He might be better at going to the hoop than Avery was and possibly a better passer and ball handler
Wouldn't that make him not like Avery Bradley? I see a lot more Jordan Crawford here than Avery Bradley.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 10:15:18 PM
I assume IT and Crowder got good ovations.  Was there a Crowder video?

When/how did the crowd acknowledge IT since there was no video and he never entered the game?

There was a mixed reaction from the crowd when IT appeared in the sidelines.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticD on January 03, 2018, 10:15:24 PM
Hm..I don't mind a blow out dub, but I wish it either came at the hands of a Kyrie monster game, or a Kyrie Buzzer beater. This is not satisfying enough for me.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:15:44 PM
Under 90. One can wish.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 03, 2018, 10:16:08 PM
This is a really funky lineup.  I wanna see Yabu go iso and try to score from the perimeter.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 10:16:32 PM
Crowder playing garbage time minutes? Wow..
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 10:17:26 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Yeah... Avery Bradley without the good shot selection and the premium defense. Otherwise, just like him.
He might be better at going to the hoop than Avery was and possibly a better passer and ball handler

He's definitely a better ball handler.  That was Bradley's biggest weakness.  Tonight's carrying calls aside, Rozier has a decent handle.

I think the main thing separating Bradley and Rozier is consistency.  Bradley brought it every night.  Rozier still has too many nights when he doesn't help us.  Been terrific lately, though.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Cman on January 03, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
We held GS to 88 points. Are we going to best that against Cleveland??

Tristan Thompson with the face saver (88 pts ties CLE with GSW).
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: PAOBoston on January 03, 2018, 10:18:02 PM
Great win. On a nice 4 game win streak again.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Cman on January 03, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
Under 90. One can wish.

Granted.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BlastFromThePast on January 03, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
Crowder playing garbage time minutes? Wow..

In an effort to get him that 2nd bucket, but no go.  Finished something like 1-11 from the field.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:18:16 PM
I get that it's their 2nd on a back to back. But this was great!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: mr. dee on January 03, 2018, 10:18:19 PM
Under 90. One can wish.

Granted
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 10:18:20 PM
Great win.  Wire-to-wire effort, for the most part.  Cavs didn't really have it tonight I think, but it was a statement win nonetheless. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 10:18:33 PM
Feeling nostalgic seeing Isaiah meeting his old buddies  :(
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 03, 2018, 10:18:37 PM
IT hugging everyone including Steve Pagliuca.  Wonder if Danny approached him. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 10:18:46 PM
Loved the game! TPs to all..

We just dominated the Cavs with our star barely scoring and our second best player(Hayward) not playing vs Lebron, Love minus IT.....Sky is the limit for us!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 10:19:40 PM
Cavs hit a bit of a wall here...good news
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 03, 2018, 10:20:25 PM
Halfway through the season for the Celtics, both the Irving and 1# pick trades are looking like excellent decisions.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: RJ87 on January 03, 2018, 10:20:35 PM
IT hugging everyone including Steve Pagliuca.  Wonder if Danny approached him.

Apparently they hugged before the game.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 10:20:52 PM
Hope IT leaves Cavs next year for anyone not named Lakers! He looks so not right in those crappy colors! Hope he stays healthy for rest of career.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 10:20:56 PM
Slow clap. Excellent. Thank you everyone for the updates.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Jiri Welsch on January 03, 2018, 10:21:10 PM
WE WON!! Drinks are on Roy H!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Phantom255x on January 03, 2018, 10:21:33 PM
Cavs hit a bit of a wall here...good news

I agree they shot a lot poorly than usual, but the team does look old. Couldn't keep up with the fast pace tempo all game. Certainly something to monitor as the season progresses and they play more games and log more minutes.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 10:22:05 PM
Not a great game for Morris
I mentioned that earlier in the game.  He also didn’t get a break from the refs.  If he had been a little better this would have been a blowout much earlier.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 10:22:17 PM
Really great win for us. Now we KNOW that we can beat Cleveland, and we did it handily without needing Kyrie heroics to do it.

It is amazing how much more energized we look defensively now that we've had some rest and practice time. The last several games we've looked more like the 16 win streak team than the team the rest of the season.

Also, Morris really, really helps us, even if it doesn't show up in the box score.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on January 03, 2018, 10:22:58 PM
Cavs hit a bit of a wall here...good news

I agree they shot a lot poorly than usual, but the team does look old. Couldn't keep up with the fast pace tempo all game. Certainly something to monitor as the season progresses and they play more games and log more minutes.

They would be best off following Spurs gamebook and keeping Lebron and company as fresh as possible for playoffs.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SparzWizard on January 03, 2018, 10:23:29 PM
Really great win for us. Now we KNOW that we can beat Cleveland, and we did it handily without needing Kyrie heroics to do it.

It is amazing how much more energized we look defensively now that we've had some rest and practice time. The last several games we've looked more like the 16 win streak team than the team the rest of the season.

Also, Morris really, really helps us, even if it doesn't show up in the box score.

Minus Kevin Love and Isaiah Thomas.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Ogaju on January 03, 2018, 10:24:00 PM
Truth, there is no such thing as too much talent.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: manl_lui on January 03, 2018, 10:24:11 PM
great great win, can someone correct me if i am wrong, this is the first legit win over a LeBron team in a long long time, and not a game winner or nail biter
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kozlodoev on January 03, 2018, 10:24:12 PM
Really great win for us. Now we KNOW that we can beat Cleveland, and we did it handily without needing Kyrie heroics to do it.
The problem is that if we thing we'll beat Cleveland by holding them to 35% shooting each game, we're in for a nasty surprise. The first half wasn't all that great (should have been up by more). Cleveland ran out of gas, but we're not going to play them on the tail end of a back-to-back in the playoffs. Trap win.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Jiri Welsch on January 03, 2018, 10:25:08 PM
Really great win for us. Now we KNOW that we can beat Cleveland, and we did it handily without needing Kyrie heroics to do it.

It is amazing how much more energized we look defensively now that we've had some rest and practice time. The last several games we've looked more like the 16 win streak team than the team the rest of the season.

Also, Morris really, really helps us, even if it doesn't show up in the box score.

Minus Kevin Love and Isaiah Thomas.

And on a second day of a back-to-back.

Still a good win!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticsElite on January 03, 2018, 10:26:25 PM
Apparently IT and Ainge had a talk behind closed doors today
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: konkmv on January 03, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
Celtics win nets win... I hope thunder do their job
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Eja117 on January 03, 2018, 10:26:47 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Yeah... Avery Bradley without the good shot selection and the premium defense. Otherwise, just like him.
He might be better at going to the hoop than Avery was and possibly a better passer and ball handler
Wouldn't that make him not like Avery Bradley? I see a lot more Jordan Crawford here than Avery Bradley.
Well defense is part of the game too
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 10:26:58 PM
Not a great game for Morris
I mentioned that earlier in the game.  He also didn’t get a break from the refs.  If he had been a little better this would have been a blowout much earlier.

I actually think Korver was the person who kept this from being a blowout.  We lost him for a few possessions in the second quarter and he kept them hanging around.  Morris made a couple of very visible mistakes and didn't shoot well, but he also did some good things tonight.  His willingness to screen is an underrated quality on offense.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kozlodoev on January 03, 2018, 10:27:19 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Yeah... Avery Bradley without the good shot selection and the premium defense. Otherwise, just like him.
He might be better at going to the hoop than Avery was and possibly a better passer and ball handler
Wouldn't that make him not like Avery Bradley? I see a lot more Jordan Crawford here than Avery Bradley.
Well defense is part of the game too
It is, and Rozier is not all that great.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: CelticSooner on January 03, 2018, 10:28:30 PM
Apparently IT and Ainge had a talk behind closed doors today

Good to hear. Put this thing to bed once and for all.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on January 03, 2018, 10:31:29 PM
The Cavs will not improve by May...the Celtics wil
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kozlodoev on January 03, 2018, 10:32:48 PM
The Cavs will not improve by May...the Celtics wil
I wonder why you'd think this, given that the Celtics have trended down, and the Cavs have trended up so far.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Ogaju on January 03, 2018, 10:34:19 PM
The Cavs will not improve by May...the Celtics wil
I wonder why you'd think this, given that the Celtics have trended down, and the Cavs have trended up so far.

I will go out on a limb and say because Celtics have more youth.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 10:34:27 PM
Not a great game for Morris
I mentioned that earlier in the game.  He also didn’t get a break from the refs.  If he had been a little better this would have been a blowout much earlier.

I actually think Korver was the person who kept this from being a blowout.  We lost him for a few possessions in the second quarter and he kept them hanging around.  Morris made a couple of very visible mistakes and didn't shoot well, but he also did some good things tonight.  His willingness to screen is an underrated quality on offense.
Yes, and he also did a decent job defending LeBron. It’s just that we all know he is a better shooter than he showed tonight.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on January 03, 2018, 10:34:50 PM
when did love go out the game? i saw him playing earlier.

doesnt natter. any win over lebaby is great. go to hell cavs.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 10:35:35 PM
The Cavs will not improve by May...the Celtics wil

You don't think IT taking Calderon's minutes will make them better?  I do. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 10:36:29 PM
The Cavs will not improve by May...the Celtics wil
I wonder why you'd think this, given that the Celtics have trended down, and the Cavs have trended up so far.

I will go out on a limb and say because Celtics have more youth.
Yup, and it looks like the Cavs are slow and old.  How are they going to make it to May?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 03, 2018, 10:38:23 PM
The Cavs will not improve by May...the Celtics wil
I wonder why you'd think this, given that the Celtics have trended down, and the Cavs have trended up so far.

I will go out on a limb and say because Celtics have more youth.
Yup, and it looks like the Cavs are slow and old.  How are they going to make it to May?
They look slow and old every year then they start trying in the playoffs and blow everyone away.

Love played half a game and IT was out. It was the back end of a back to back too.

Great win, but that Cavs team barely resembles the squad that we may see in the playoffs
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Atzar on January 03, 2018, 10:39:16 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Yeah... Avery Bradley without the good shot selection and the premium defense. Otherwise, just like him.
He might be better at going to the hoop than Avery was and possibly a better passer and ball handler
Wouldn't that make him not like Avery Bradley? I see a lot more Jordan Crawford here than Avery Bradley.
Well defense is part of the game too
It is, and Rozier is not all that great.

Defensive metrics really like Rozier this year.  His consistency needs to improve, but he's capable of being a very good defensive player.

Also, IMO Bradley's defense is overrated. 
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jambr380 on January 03, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
Really great win for us. Now we KNOW that we can beat Cleveland, and we did it handily without needing Kyrie heroics to do it.

It is amazing how much more energized we look defensively now that we've had some rest and practice time. The last several games we've looked more like the 16 win streak team than the team the rest of the season.

Also, Morris really, really helps us, even if it doesn't show up in the box score.

Minus Kevin Love and Isaiah Thomas.

Yeah, because Love was tearing it up in his 21 minutes before sitting down (his 1-11 came when he was mostly fine). I am pretty sure him not playing the rest of the game was actually a benefit for the Cavs.

As for IT - well, we were without Hayward. That is more than a fair swap.

Great, easy win for the Cs. I know it's one they 'should have' won, but it's still great to get a win against your biggest rival.

Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: vjcsmoke on January 03, 2018, 10:42:03 PM
Great win for the celtics.  We looked far stronger and more confident than the cavs.  I know we were at home but in a 7 game series we would get home court based on record.  James and the cavs have a lot of questions to answer tomorrow and we just keep on winning and beating the top teams in the nba!!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Surferdad on January 03, 2018, 10:42:33 PM
The Cavs will not improve by May...the Celtics wil
I wonder why you'd think this, given that the Celtics have trended down, and the Cavs have trended up so far.

I will go out on a limb and say because Celtics have more youth.
Yup, and it looks like the Cavs are slow and old.  How are they going to make it to May?
They look slow and old every year then they start trying in the playoffs and blow everyone away.

Love played half a game and IT was out. It was the back end of a back to back too.

Great win, but that Cavs team barely resembles the squad that we may see in the playoffs
Fair point about the playoffs. This Cavs team, without IT, went on a long winning streak recently. IT is a clear defensive liability. I just think we’ve seen their best, until the playoffs.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kozlodoev on January 03, 2018, 10:45:04 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Yeah... Avery Bradley without the good shot selection and the premium defense. Otherwise, just like him.
He might be better at going to the hoop than Avery was and possibly a better passer and ball handler
Wouldn't that make him not like Avery Bradley? I see a lot more Jordan Crawford here than Avery Bradley.
Well defense is part of the game too
It is, and Rozier is not all that great.

Defensive metrics really like Rozier this year.  His consistency needs to improve, but he's capable of being a very good defensive player.

Also, IMO Bradley's defense is overrated.
Bradley's defense was surely overrated, and he's better than Rozier regardless. Rozier doesn't defend multiple positions, isn't particularly adept in staying in front of his man, and is more flashy than fundamentally sound because he likes playing the passing lanes. Which I guess is still something, but to me his defense is like his offense: largely cringe-worthy with an occasional spectacular play.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: nickagneta on January 03, 2018, 10:45:06 PM
Celtics dominating because the Cavs defense is awful, especially their perimeter defense that might be the worst perimeter defense I have seen in 5 years. Celtics also playing inspired defense
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: sdceltsfan on January 03, 2018, 10:45:33 PM
Semi should never be allowed to shoot a three ever again! Lol, so bad!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 10:46:31 PM
Rozier sorta reminds me of Avery when Avery was starting to get good
Yeah... Avery Bradley without the good shot selection and the premium defense. Otherwise, just like him.
He might be better at going to the hoop than Avery was and possibly a better passer and ball handler
Wouldn't that make him not like Avery Bradley? I see a lot more Jordan Crawford here than Avery Bradley.
Well defense is part of the game too
It is, and Rozier is not all that great.

Defensive metrics really like Rozier this year.  His consistency needs to improve, but he's capable of being a very good defensive player.

Also, IMO Bradley's defense is overrated.
Bradley's defense was surely overrated, and he's better than Rozier regardless. Rozier doesn't defend multiple positions, isn't particularly adept in staying in front of his man, and is more flashy than fundamentally sound because he likes playing the passing lanes. Which I guess is still something, but to me his defense is like his offense: largely cringe-worthy with an occasional spectacular play.

Completely disagree.

Terry is impressive as 'heck'.

You could call me a bro-zier.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: kozlodoev on January 03, 2018, 10:49:38 PM
On an unrelated note, I learned a new expression today: "segababa".
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: footey on January 03, 2018, 11:01:43 PM
Our best game of the season.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 11:06:28 PM
On an unrelated note, I learned a new expression today: "segababa".

I have been seeing this everywhere and have no idea what it means. Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 11:12:24 PM
On an unrelated note, I learned a new expression today: "segababa".

I have been seeing this everywhere and have no idea what it means. Care to elaborate?

"Second game of a back to back"
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: azzenfrost on January 03, 2018, 11:13:03 PM
Now we all know!
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 03, 2018, 11:13:15 PM
On an unrelated note, I learned a new expression today: "segababa".

I have been seeing this everywhere and have no idea what it means. Care to elaborate?

"Second game of a back to back"

And, I didn't know that off hand.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: saltlover on January 03, 2018, 11:27:51 PM
Looking at the box score, my favorite thing was 27 assists on 41 made shots, with 8 players having 2 or more assists.  Great ball movement.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: jpotter33 on January 03, 2018, 11:49:21 PM
On an unrelated note, I learned a new expression today: "segababa".

I have been seeing this everywhere and have no idea what it means. Care to elaborate?

"Second game of a back to back"

And, I didn't know that off hand.

TP.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: wayupnorth on January 04, 2018, 12:00:28 AM
On a note tangentially related to segababa.

It really is something that some of these guys play for six digit game checks, and complain about travel.

Wilt played over 48 minutes a game in one season in converse shoes.

And yet people still say things like LBJ is way better than The best of all time Russ #6.

Perspective.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: chilidawg on January 04, 2018, 12:19:53 AM
Given our season schedule to date I'm not going to have much sympathy for the Cavs on a back to back.  Not that I'd ever GTSs.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: chilidawg on January 04, 2018, 12:21:58 AM
6-2 now against the top 5 teams in the league.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Snakehead on January 04, 2018, 12:23:55 AM
I was really impressed with Kyrie and the team.   The Cavs just threw everything at Kyrie and he smartly made the right passes all night, allowing other guys to attack off double and even triple teams.  Just smart basketball.  The first couple games of the season, losses in Cleveland and vs the Bucks, the defenses were doing that and there was no counter.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 04, 2018, 09:52:30 AM
Sweet !
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 04, 2018, 05:42:45 PM
Quote
my but Crowder is so regular

Honestly, there were people in this forum last year that thought he was a top five small forward, I hope the absurdity of this has sunk in, now.

How about that leadership from LeBron last night not even playing in the fourth and sitting and willing his team to victory?   Let the excuses begin..
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 04, 2018, 06:15:01 PM
IT looked like he forgot which team he was playing for at the end , he looked as happy as any Celtic there......LOL


Maybe we could make him our honorary mascot .... ;D
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: blink on January 04, 2018, 06:52:13 PM
I am so glad we had an easy win against the Cavs.  After the ECF last year I am sure the Cavs are very confident that they can beat us in the playoffs.  The C's winning like they did puts them on notice a bit.   I don't think the gap between the Cavs and the C's in the playoffs is going to be as big as all the pundits believe. 

If the C's get the number 1 seed in the east, I think a Celtics / Cavs final will be really interesting.
C's just gotta stay healthy.  We need all our top 9 guys in the playoffs, hopefully that is how it turns out.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 04, 2018, 08:35:15 PM
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my but Crowder is so regular

Honestly, there were people in this forum last year that thought he was a top five small forward, I hope the absurdity of this has sunk in, now.

How about that leadership from LeBron last night not even playing in the fourth and sitting and willing his team to victory?   Let the excuses begin..
Ive seen a lot of people suggest he was top 10 and if you fudged a bunch of guys positions you could make an argument that at his best he was close.

Dont think I saw a single person say top 5.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: johnnygreen on January 05, 2018, 09:32:22 AM
Great win by the Celtics, even though the Cavs played their second game in two days and were without IT. However, lost in the shuffle, is that the Celtics have played virtually the entire season without arguably their first or second best player in Hayward. I'm not sure if we'll see Hayward play at all this season, but I would rather have him than Isaiah for a playoff push.
Title: Celtics vs Cavs
Post by: Chris22 on January 05, 2018, 03:20:28 PM
I watched the game again, and it seems to me, Brad has figured out how to beat the Cavs. Other than Lebron, they are very poor one on one defenders, so we were just taking guys one on one and driving past them. Not nearly as much ball movement as we usually have.
It worked.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: gouki88 on January 05, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
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my but Crowder is so regular

Honestly, there were people in this forum last year that thought he was a top five small forward, I hope the absurdity of this has sunk in, now.

How about that leadership from LeBron last night not even playing in the fourth and sitting and willing his team to victory?   Let the excuses begin..
Ive seen a lot of people suggest he was top 10 and if you fudged a bunch of guys positions you could make an argument that at his best he was close.

Dont think I saw a single person say top 5.
Top 5 seems insanely high. I don't think anybody had him above Hayward or George, let alone the other few small forwards just below him.
Title: Re: Cavaliers (25-12) at Celtics (30-10) Game #41 1/3/18
Post by: celticsclay on January 05, 2018, 04:00:05 PM
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my but Crowder is so regular

Honestly, there were people in this forum last year that thought he was a top five small forward, I hope the absurdity of this has sunk in, now.

How about that leadership from LeBron last night not even playing in the fourth and sitting and willing his team to victory?   Let the excuses begin..
Ive seen a lot of people suggest he was top 10 and if you fudged a bunch of guys positions you could make an argument that at his best he was close.

Dont think I saw a single person say top 5.
Top 5 seems insanely high. I don't think anybody had him above Hayward or George, let alone the other few small forwards just below him.

I never saw anyone say anything close to top 5 either (and if one person did they were probably not serious). I don't think we gain anything with exaggeration. To that point there was legit debate about whether he was a top 15 at times. He also used to be a better player. His injuries have made him a worse defender. Now he cant shoot either.
Title: Re: Celtics vs Cavs
Post by: celticsclay on January 05, 2018, 04:01:55 PM
I watched the game again, and it seems to me, Brad has figured out how to beat the Cavs. Other than Lebron, they are very poor one on one defenders, so we were just taking guys one on one and driving past them. Not nearly as much ball movement as we usually have.
It worked.

I think the Cavs are going to have some games in the playoffs where Wade, Smith and Korver really look their age. Perhaps even a game where Lebron does. Lue is riding the old players way to hard and there is definitely a chance it comes back to bite them.