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Re: What if Kyrie, KD, & Davis?
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2019, 02:39:30 PM »

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I have stated this several times already. Kyrie signing and Davis being traded here would put the team over the apron. Doing a sign and traded for Durant when the Celtics are over the apron means the team is hardcapped, would have to salary dump millions and millions in salary to get under the cap, then couldn't use the MLE or BLE, just vet min contracts.

Durant is not being signed and traded to Boston while having Davis and Kyrie here. Danny won't handicap himself and the team in this scenario.

Durant would need to opt in.

For a sign and trade, unless I am mistaken in my math, horford would jeed to opt out and resign for about 20 mill starting to keep team under apron. So its feesable...just not probable
Feasibility means nothing. Technically it can be done. But logically it makes no sense. It's bad business to make that trade and handicap the remaking of the rest of the team for an entire year. It's just not smart.

It's about as Un-Ainge a thing as I can think of. Ainge loves having lots of assets and in absence of that, lots of options. This trade kills all that. Ainge would simply never do it.

You are mistaken

If team can stay under the hard cap.

And if durant is demanding out and GS would like hayward as opposed to nothing then all the team is losing aside from the assets in a davis trade(smart/tatum 3 pick) then team only loses hayward for durant.

Again it slim but argueing that telhe team would lose all assets seems misplaced.

Would still have
Brown
Baynes
Semi
Morris resigned
Wannamaker
Theis resigned
Horford
Brown

As well as davis, durant and Irving AND mle and lle. (Again assuming that Horford restructures to allow for durant to come in and not go over the hard cap.
Horford restructuring is offset and then some by the $10+ million in increase on Kyrie's deal and the $5+ million in salary increase of Davis over who we send out in a trade for him.

After the Davis trade the team would have

Horford
Hayward
Davis
Kyrie
Brown
Baynes
Semi
Yabu

Plus the team would still have cap holds on Rozier, Morris, Wanamaker and Theis. The team would be way over the apron. Even a re-signed Horford doesn't put the team under the apron.

So to trade in a sign and trade for a $38.15 million Durant we would need to send out more salary than Durant, enough to get under the cap. That number may be in excess of $5 million.

So to complete the Durant trade kiss away all the cap holds meaning you lose the ability to re-sign Rozier, Morris, Wanamaker and Theis to anything but vet min deals. So you lose them.

And now you have to include another $10 million or so in salary over just Hayward to sign and trade Durant. You can't include Baynes unless he approves due to a no trade clause on last year opt in contracts. That means needing to send out Brown, Semi and Yabu to make it work.

Meaning the remaining team is

Kyrie
Durant
Davis
Horford
Baynes

10 vet min free agents with little chance to upgrade from that. Ainge would have given up the assets of re-signing his current players, trading player assets in Brown, Semi and Yabu and being hardcapped, any real options to get better until 2020-2021