Is Wanamaker better than Rozier?

[Monkhouse]

I wish we had another Shane Larkin, or even a Phil Pressey type... Someone to push the tempo, hustle back on defense, even if they suck at it, the effort/grit and grind mentality rubs on other players.

[Rosco917]

Wannamaker could easily take Terry's minutes.

Rid ourselves of Terry before we get nothing for him. Even if Irving does walk...Terry isn't a point guard, he's an undersized shooting guard that has a cool nickname "Scary Terry."  The problem is...Terry thinks he's really scary.

[Green-18]

Wannamaker could easily take Terry's minutes.

Rid ourselves of Terry before we get nothing for him. Even if Irving does walk...Terry isn't a point guard, he's an undersized shooting guard that has a cool nickname "Scary Terry."  The problem is...Terry thinks he's really scary.

Terry is flawed but I think he could be a valuable PG/SG on a legitimate contender.  He has a much easier time playing within a system when minutes are guaranteed.  His rebounding and clutch shot making would fit just fine on a team that had a couple of Superstars.  For example, let's pretend that Terry started alongside Harden in Houston.  How does he not help that team in some capacity?

   

[Chris22]

For the season Rozier is shooting 37% from the field, 35% from three, and 77% from the line. He had almost the exact same numbers last year. He is what he is.

Wanamaker is shooting 43% from the field, 44% from three, and 91% from the line. Wanamaker is clearly a better shooter.

For that reason, I would like to see him get a chance to play. We need guys who can make threes.

[smokeablount]

For the season Rozier is shooting 37% from the field, 35% from three, and 77% from the line. He had almost the exact same numbers last year. He is what he is.

Wanamaker is shooting 43% from the field, 44% from three, and 91% from the line. Wanamaker is clearly a better shooter.

For that reason, I would like to see him get a chance to play. We need guys who can make threes.

He’s clearly a better passer too, since it’s hard to be worse than TR.

I agree that TR is the better player but he doesn’t look like the better backup to me. Or if it’s not clear, Wanamaker deserves another look.

[CF033]

It's really hard to say given the small sample size of Wannamaker's playtime. There were def moments where Shane Larkin looked better than TR last year too but overall probably not.

[Big333223]

Rozier is almost definitely the better player but Wannamaker might actually be better in the role Terry is in right now. It wouldn't surprise me if the team were better giving Wannamaker some of Terry's minutes.

[Tr1boy]

No

But I do miss Larkin

I still understand why Ainge didnt resign him

[jambr380]

Y. E.  S

Rozier got his chance but he is Antoine Walker like in terms of talent... Need a high usage and a whole lot of crap shot selection to even be effective.

Did you ever watch Antoine play? The dude may have had iffy shot selection at times (during a time when many star players shot low percentages), but he was a 3x all-star and inspirational leader of our fairly successful team for years. He then went on to be the 3rd best player on a championship team.

I know this is not an Antoine thread, but it drives me crazy how people just compare him to anybody who blows at shooting...on a side note, I actually think Rozier can be quite a good shooter and is quite obviously a better player than Wanamaker. It’s all in his head right now.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

I came here this morning to start a conversation about this. Haven't had time to respond.

The contrast in their game couldn't be sharper. Rozier is explosive. He can score in bunches, slash to the rim for a dunk, hit big threes, get key steals, and soar for defensive rebounds.

But his feel for the game has always been wildly lacking. Sometimes he looks great. Other times, he doesn't.

Wannamaker, on the other hand, is more steady. His feel for the game is superb for a bench guard. I don't think he can make the same kind of explosive plays as Rozier, but he is a much steadier option to run an offense.

Under Wannamaker the offense is more likely to get consistent good looks and less likely to go on a huge run. Under Rozier the offense is less likely to get consistent good looks and more likely to go on a huge run.

I haven't seen enough of Wannamaker to confidently think he could play a JJ Barea role, but maybe he could. I've seen enough of Rozier to want Brad to put him in for 4 minutes and see if a few shots fall. Bench if they don't and play him longer if they do.

[Chris22]

I came here this morning to start a conversation about this. Haven't had time to respond.

The contrast in their game couldn't be sharper. Rozier is explosive. He can score in bunches, slash to the rim for a dunk, hit big threes, get key steals, and soar for defensive rebounds.

But his feel for the game has always been wildly lacking. Sometimes he looks great. Other times, he doesn't.

Wannamaker, on the other hand, is more steady. His feel for the game is superb for a bench guard. I don't think he can make the same kind of explosive plays as Rozier, but he is a much steadier option to run an offense.

Under Wannamaker the offense is more likely to get consistent good looks and less likely to go on a huge run. Under Rozier the offense is less likely to get consistent good looks and more likely to go on a huge run.

I haven't seen enough of Wannamaker to confidently think he could play a JJ Barea role, but maybe he could. I've seen enough of Rozier to want Brad to put him in for 4 minutes and see if a few shots fall. Bench if they don't and play him longer if they do.

Wanamaker ate Barea alive the other day. The only time I have ever seen a Celtic who could cover him. Barea usually kills us.

[SHAQATTACK]

I came here this morning to start a conversation about this. Haven't had time to respond.

The contrast in their game couldn't be sharper. Rozier is explosive. He can score in bunches, slash to the rim for a dunk, hit big threes, get key steals, and soar for defensive rebounds.

But his feel for the game has always been wildly lacking. Sometimes he looks great. Other times, he doesn't.

Wannamaker, on the other hand, is more steady. His feel for the game is superb for a bench guard. I don't think he can make the same kind of explosive plays as Rozier, but he is a much steadier option to run an offense.

Under Wannamaker the offense is more likely to get consistent good looks and less likely to go on a huge run. Under Rozier the offense is less likely to get consistent good looks and more likely to go on a huge run.

I haven't seen enough of Wannamaker to confidently think he could play a JJ Barea role, but maybe he could. I've seen enough of Rozier to want Brad to put him in for 4 minutes and see if a few shots fall. Bench if they don't and play him longer if they do.

thats fair analysis.  Rozier is either going to massively help your effort that night  or screw up the thing .  There is not much in between ,  his inbetween is worthless D league end of bench at best.

[rondofan1255]

Overall, no. As a backup, hopefully Wanamaker takes a good chunk of Rozier's regular minutes and shows what he's capable of.

[gpap]

Sadly, I think so.

[jpd985]

He is better for the role we want Rozier to play.