Fines will be imposed for clear cases of flopping next season

[cool breeze]

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edit - this needed it;s own thread

[wdleehi]

Terrible idea. 



Get ready to see FT parades.  The only way to avoid blocking calls that should be called charges is to fall down.


Players start losing money, they are going to have to just foul. 



Or worst, get out of the way.

[NicaraguanFan]

I think suspension would be a better idea. After 3 flops you lose a game.  If do 3 more flops 2 games and so on...

NF.

[Celtic]

A big step in the right direction, it is completely out of control and completely ruins the game. I remember when players used to actually try to block shots. Only problem is the refs still don't know how to call it, they need to remove that circle, they use it as a crutch rather than using obvious logic, if a player is standing still you should never be allowed to run over him. That being said, I'll believe it when I see it.

[kw10]

Terrible idea. 



Get ready to see FT parades.  The only way to avoid blocking calls that should be called charges is to fall down.


Players start losing money, they are going to have to just foul. 



Or worst, get out of the way.

I kind of agree and disagree, in today's game, it is officiated so that if you don't fall down, it is a block, that's why players flop, but I also hate flopping, so the intention to get rid of it is good. However, that's not the solution, the fine line between block/charge needs to be examined finely by the refs in the offseason instead. What has the league's officiating come to nowadays...geez

[rmcc4444]

best idea since the 3 pt. line. 

[ederson]

In Europe the refs give a warning for the first flop. If any player flops again a TF is is
called. I think is better than a fine.
When you flop you earn something for your team. So the "punishement" should take something from the team also.

[kw10]

In Europe the refs give a warning for the first flop. If any player flops again a TF is is
called. I think is better than a fine.
When you flop you earn something for your team. So the "punishement" should take something from the team also.

This actually seems like a very good idea to me, something along these lines would be much better, someone bring this up to David Stern, btw TP for u.

[the_Bird]

You want to stop flopping?

1. Don't call a foul JUST because a guy falls down.  Defenders give up enough uncontested layups, they'll stop flopping.

2. Start actually calling offensive fouls even when the defender doesn't land on his ass.  It CAN still be a foul when the offensive player hits the defender but he doesn't go flying across court.

Of course, this all requires a certain level of competance among NBA referees than may be, well, unrealistic to expect...

Regarding Hack-A-Shaq, I can't believe they didn't go with very simple change...  an intentional (non-flagrant) foul off the ball becomes a technical foul, one free throw and the ball out of bounds.  Very simple solution.  Still lets teams foul at the end of games when they'r down four or five with fifteen seconds left. 

Almost totally off-topic, I had a thought last night...

When teams need to foul at the end of the game, why do they ALWAYS foul the guy with the ball?  Why not employ "Hack-A-Shaq" on whoever the worst free throw shooter is?  If the Celtics inbound to Ray Allen, why does everyone rush to foul him instead of putting Rajon Rondo in a bear hug?  Are the rules different for the last few minutes, or is it just that refs won't call an off-the-ball foul at the end like they would in the second quarter?

I mean, you're usually only going to have pretty good FT shooters on the court at the end of the game, but someone's always going to be the shakiest.  Why can't you just foul whoever's on the court?

[ederson]

Flopping and hack-a-shack are totaly different things.

I can`t understand why commiting fouls should be penalised. Unless the fouls puts in danger the health of a player then wh`ts the problem. Free throws are part of the game. Why protect players that can`t hit them?

On the other side when flopping you are not taking advantage of something.It`s a "fraud". The rules describe what is a foul and not what looks like a foul.

[86 Celtics]

Wow, this is going to take away a lot of Manu and Rip Hamilton's games!!!  Oh no!!!  When I hear "Flop"...these are the two biggest culprits.  They have taken flopping to a new level, using it on both ends of the court.  I hate watching both of these players.

[TheConnection]

Almost totally off-topic, I had a thought last night...

When teams need to foul at the end of the game, why do they ALWAYS foul the guy with the ball?  Why not employ "Hack-A-Shaq" on whoever the worst free throw shooter is?  If the Celtics inbound to Ray Allen, why does everyone rush to foul him instead of putting Rajon Rondo in a bear hug?  Are the rules different for the last few minutes, or is it just that refs won't call an off-the-ball foul at the end like they would in the second quarter?

I mean, you're usually only going to have pretty good FT shooters on the court at the end of the game, but someone's always going to be the shakiest.  Why can't you just foul whoever's on the court?

This results in a free throw and the ball for the offensive team, when it is under 2 mins to go.  We did this to Ben Wallace a couple times with like 4 mins left in games.  Mike Brown would take him out immediately, or at least until the 2 min mark.

[the_Bird]

Thanks, never knew that.  TP!

[bostonsportsfan]

i dont see why you just cant call a personal foul for flopping The Nhl does it thats one of the few things they do correctly make it a penalty. I could deffinatly see a tech being called but id be happy if they just called a personal foul

[screwedupmaniac]

i'm glad the league is trying to do something about the flopping epidemic, but i don't think they are going about it the right way. there would be no need for fines or suspensions if the refs would do their job and stop rewarding king james, manu, and chauncey with freethrows everytime they flail their arms. is it that hard to NOT blow a whistle for these fools? i mean, come on.