Let's ignore whether his TEN defensive rebounds, 9 assists and 14 points (on 60% shooting) had anything to do with why the game was even close ...
Not sure about that. He also had 5 turnovers, shot 2-10 from the FT line, and was a minus 10 in +/- in 33 minutes. Pressey was a plus 6 in 17 minutes. The team doesn't exactly fall apart when he's not in.
Why is it so difficult to actually look into the details when plus/minus numbers look odd?
Green's +/- was also -10. Yet by all accounts he played awesome for this game. Doesn't that even make you stop for a second look at what the numbers actually _mean_?
Rondo was on the floor for 33 minutes and overall, yep - the team posted a -10 on the scoreboard.
Well, a glance at the other starters shows that, whuddayaknow? Kelly Olynyk posted a big fat -15 in just 13 minutes of play! Now, what positives and negatives did Kelly bring to the floor last night to result in such a number? Oh yeah, he missed his two shots, committed 4 fouls, turned the ball over 3 times, played horrible defense and earned a seat on the bench - which didn't help much because Bass then came in and also played pretty bad. Just not AS bad.
The point is, when Kelly was in the game, he was just plain and obviously having a horrible game. Thats not to say he's a bad player. He's had mostly good games this season. He'll probably play great in his next game. But last night? He stunk. Eye test. Stats test. Coach-putting-him-on-the-bench-test. He stunk.
Well, 12 of Kelley's minutes came with Rondo on the floor. During that time, the team was -12.
In the other 21 minutes Rondo was on the floor, the team was +2.
But go on blaming Rondo. It's what you do.
The other players you mentioned aren't in Rondo's league though. So if Rondo is going to get a max deal and be built around, like many think, shouldn't he be held to a higher standard? Or is he exempt from criticism? My reason for citing +/- is in response to him saying Rondo being in the game was the only reason it was close. The eye test doesn't indicate that, the +/- doesn't indicate that, and to go further neither does our record the last 4 seasons.
Not for nothing, but you weren't responding to someone saying Rondo being in the game was the only reason it was close. You were responding to someone saying that Rondo being in the game had something to do with the game being close. Which it obviously did.
Seriously? Talk about semantics.
Shockingly, most people see quite a difference between "had something to do with" and "the only reason".
He used the words "nothing to do" in a sarcastic way as if Rondo had everything to do with it. Again, it's semantics. Sometimes you argue just for the sheer sake of argument. What are we even arguing about? You must quite be a gem to deal with on a personal level.
Wow. Fiction is fun!
Again - would it kill you to do just 10 seconds of fact checking before you dig yourself further in?
My specific words were:
"Let's ignore whether his TEN defensive rebounds, 9 assists and 14 points (on 60% shooting) had anything to do with why the game was even close ..."
Yes, that is indeed _sarcasm_. You got that part correct. But there is no way any one schooled properly in reading the English language should be able to translate that into "Rondo had everything to do with it."
"had anything" != "had everything"
Different words. Different meanings.
Here. Useful reference:
http://www.dictionary.com