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Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2008, 10:17:05 PM »

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I thought I knew a decent amount about trading rules, but what happened to the one about salaries matching???
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Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2008, 10:18:51 PM »

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Hey ROY,

lets say Camby makes between 7-9 million a year, does that leaves the Clippers with something like 3-5 million under the cap to spend on a free agent AND a full MLE as well?

Please answer if you get a chance.

Thanks.

I'm not sure about where they are in terms of the salary cap right now, but they don't get to use the MLE or the LLE.  Generally speaking, teams below the cap don't have access to the MLE (really, it's teams more than about $7 million under the cap don't have access to the MLE, but that gets it all kinds of technicalities and complications).  Because the Clips had a substantial amount of cap room, they wouldn't have access to the MLE (and it's not something they regain this year if they go over the cap, either.)

Okay, thanks a lot for clearing that up for me. +1

Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2008, 10:19:41 PM »

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I thought I knew a decent amount about trading rules, but what happened to the one about salaries matching???
the clippers are under the cap and thus can absorb his contract without going over it.
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Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2008, 10:21:28 PM »

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nice move for LA.

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Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2008, 10:34:12 PM »

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This is what happens when you have 4 max contracts. Denver has been in financial troubles for a long time, they were paying $78 million for 8 players under contract, so they probably needed to do this. Still jaw-dropping...

I'm not Camby's biggest fan, but this is a very solid move for Clippers. In 2010, they'll have $26 million out of the books, a veteran pg and a young core with Kaman, Gordon and Thornton, hopefully with some playoff experience. Some good arguments to lure one of the top free-agents. Their fans have reasons to feel confident about the direction of their franchise - all the 8 of them. Those guys in Colorado... not so much.

Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2008, 10:35:50 PM »

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Besides Denver and Donnie Walsh getting screwed by this deal, Okafor, Iguadala, and Josh Smith just struck out. Who's going to offer them big contracts now that their teams would either match or not. They're either going to have to settle for less or take the qulaifying offers.

Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2008, 10:36:37 PM »

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Hmm, not sure what to think about this one from either end.

For Denver, if this trade is indeed toward the end of making cap room, that implies they've given up on winning a championship in the near term.  If I'm AI or (especially) Melo, I am not too pleased.

On the other hand, if either this move is a prelude to something bigger in store, or, if there was an unannounced issue with Camby in the locker room, then I guess this move is for the better from their standpoint, both short and long term.

Time is the only (v)indicator, but I'll go out on a limb and say they do not make the playoffs next season.

For LAC, economically speaking, this is a great pickup given their needs.  While Camby certainly does not replace Brand's productivity, all they gave up was a 2nd round pick next year.  Not too shabby.

That said, I'll continue hanging on that pretty sturdy limb and predict they too do not make the playoffs this year.

All in all, I'm not too impressed either way.

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Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2008, 10:37:14 PM »

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A good move but I don't think the Clippers make the playoffs.
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Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2008, 10:38:48 PM »

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Assuming BD's new contract of 5/$65m is for %13m, the Clips are $9m under the cap.  If his contract is backloaded, they would have a bit more room.

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Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2008, 10:42:36 PM »

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they are an Okafor, Jsmith, Iguadola, Deng, away from being a title contender.  Any one of those players would do it.

Can they afford one of them?

I think with the recent Brand slight, the owner is in screw it mode.  Josh Smith on this team would be awesome. 

Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2008, 10:50:31 PM »

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 I still think the Clippers still have enough cap space to go after Deng or Iguadola and they will...Deng is likely the easier target...

Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2008, 11:07:25 PM »

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horrible move by denver.. honestly i think they could have got better for camby.
props to the clips this is robbery.
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Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2008, 11:11:48 PM »

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This trade makes me think that the Nugs are going to deal Carmelo this summer and do a full rebuild.  Could a deal to Miami for Marion and multiple first rounders be possible?  The Nugs would get instant cap room next summer and the Heat would have a big 3 of their own in Wade, Carmelo, and Beasley. 

Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2008, 11:14:18 PM »

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Good deal for the clippers! It gives them a nice big shot blocking band aid, at a nice price. If that team is healthy, they can be a heck of a lot of fun.

Denver is in a financial mess. Well, they asked for it, when they added Iverson to an already bloated payroll.

Re: Camby to Clips
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2008, 11:16:06 PM »

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I still think the Clippers still have enough cap space to go after Deng or Iguadola and they will...Deng is likely the easier target...

I'm getting a little worried about Mr. Paxon in Chicago. He slept on PJ Brown's expiring $10 million contract a few years ago. Then he trades the right to Lemarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas. And now he is sitting around hoping to low ball Deng and Gordon. On top of all of this, he hires first time head coach Vinny Del Negro to lead the team. Bulls fans, you better start complaining.
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