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Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2010, 02:38:38 PM »

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I just think with Rose, Boozer, and Anthony the Bulls would be a Phoenix Suns type no-defense team.  And you know all three want to put up big shot attempt numbers.  

Derrick Rose has become a lot better on defense.  Boozer and Anthony are closer to average than terrible, I think.


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Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2010, 03:01:40 PM »

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I also don't think he's got what it takes in his heart or in his head to lead a team to a championship.

Maybe not, but he did lead Syracuse to one.  Apples and oranges, of course, but Carmelo has come up big before.
7 straight playoff berths in the West isn't nothing either.

6 of those 7 berths resulted in 1st round exits, with a cumulative record of 24-6.

I think the Dominique comparisons are quite apt.
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Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2010, 03:12:11 PM »

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If I'm Denver, I don't give them Melo without getting Rose in return.  Chicago might still do it for Deng and Rose.  Gives them a frontcourt of Melo, Boozer and Noah.  that'd be one helluva lineup

There’s no way that would happen, Denver doesn’t even think that’s possible.

Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2010, 03:18:26 PM »

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If I'm Denver, I don't give them Melo without getting Rose in return.  Chicago might still do it for Deng and Rose.  Gives them a frontcourt of Melo, Boozer and Noah.  that'd be one helluva lineup

If I'm Chicago, I'm walking away if Denver's asking Deng+Rose.  

Yeah, Chicago isn't stupid; they know that Denver has very little leverage right now.
I agree, but again, if I'm Denver, I'd be asking for Rose since he's really the only comparable talent to Melo on their roster.  toss in the consideration of taking on Deng's contract and that's not an unreasonable proposal from their side of it. 

Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2010, 03:20:36 PM »

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If I'm Denver, I don't give them Melo without getting Rose in return.  Chicago might still do it for Deng and Rose.  Gives them a frontcourt of Melo, Boozer and Noah.  that'd be one helluva lineup

There’s no way that would happen, Denver doesn’t even think that’s possible.
and I would have said the same thing about the Gasol deal for the Lakers and that deal went through.  After that fiasco, I believe any deal is possible whether I think it's a good/realistic one or not.

well, let me add a caveat to that statement -- any deal that doesn't involved some of the outrageously lopsided proposals posted on this site. 

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If I'm Denver, I don't give them Melo without getting Rose in return.  Chicago might still do it for Deng and Rose.  Gives them a frontcourt of Melo, Boozer and Noah.  that'd be one helluva lineup

There’s no way that would happen, Denver doesn’t even think that’s possible.
and I would have said the same thing about the Gasol deal for the Lakers and that deal went through.  After that fiasco, I believe any deal is possible whether I think it's a good/realistic one or not.

well, let me add a caveat to that statement -- any deal that doesn't involved some of the outrageously lopsided proposals posted on this site. 

Derrick Rose is the beating heart of that Bulls team. He's going to be there for a long time. When they were trying to sign LeBron, Rose wouldn't give his blessing. LeBron didn't sign.

I could see them trading Rose/Deng for Billups/Melo, but the money doesn't work, and honestly I still think the Bulls are getting screwed there.

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Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2010, 03:24:32 PM »

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If I'm Denver, I don't give them Melo without getting Rose in return.  Chicago might still do it for Deng and Rose.  Gives them a frontcourt of Melo, Boozer and Noah.  that'd be one helluva lineup

There’s no way that would happen, Denver doesn’t even think that’s possible.
and I would have said the same thing about the Gasol deal for the Lakers and that deal went through.  After that fiasco, I believe any deal is possible whether I think it's a good/realistic one or not.

well, let me add a caveat to that statement -- any deal that doesn't involved some of the outrageously lopsided proposals posted on this site. 

Derrick Rose is the beating heart of that Bulls team. He's going to be there for a long time. When they were trying to sign LeBron, Rose wouldn't give his blessing. LeBron didn't sign.

I could see them trading Rose/Deng for Billups/Melo, but the money doesn't work, and honestly I still think the Bulls are getting screwed there.

Plus Chris Wallace isn't GM of Chicago.


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Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2010, 03:48:11 PM »

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If I'm Denver, I don't give them Melo without getting Rose in return.  Chicago might still do it for Deng and Rose.  Gives them a frontcourt of Melo, Boozer and Noah.  that'd be one helluva lineup

If I'm Chicago, I'm walking away if Denver's asking Deng+Rose.  

Yeah, Chicago isn't stupid; they know that Denver has very little leverage right now.
I agree, but again, if I'm Denver, I'd be asking for Rose since he's really the only comparable talent to Melo on their roster.  toss in the consideration of taking on Deng's contract and that's not an unreasonable proposal from their side of it. 

It's a good proposal, but I think Denver would have to back off it pretty quickly if they wanted to get something done.

It's kind of like Minnesota asking for both Big Al and Rondo (plus Gerald and Gomes and #1s and cap relief).  Minnesota probably knew they were overreaching, but I guess it doesn't hurt to ask.


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Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2010, 04:05:20 PM »

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There's a timing problem here.  Does Denver think it has a shot to win it this year?  They should.  If so, they could only trade a big piece like Melo for equal and immediate win-now value.  That ain't happening.

As for Melo, the biggest thing he's got going for him is that he isn't Lebron, and that he actually showed "winnerness" at the olympics.  Why screw that up with trade demands?  I don't get what he's doing...
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Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2010, 05:46:21 PM »

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If Chicago does the deal before extending Noah, there's a chance Noah won't want to re-sign with Denver.  Would the Celtics have a shot at getting Noah?  I want Noah on the Celtics so bad.  I love the way he plays. 
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Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2010, 05:56:09 PM »

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If Chicago does the deal before extending Noah, there's a chance Noah won't want to re-sign with Denver.  Would the Celtics have a shot at getting Noah?  I want Noah on the Celtics so bad.  I love the way he plays. 

He's still a restricted FA, so Denver can match anything he gets.  I'm sure they'd match anything we could offer, unless we did some kind of S+T.

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« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2010, 06:12:20 PM »

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If Chicago does the deal before extending Noah, there's a chance Noah won't want to re-sign with Denver.  Would the Celtics have a shot at getting Noah?  I want Noah on the Celtics so bad.  I love the way he plays. 

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« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2010, 06:32:26 PM »

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That's good value for Denver. Especially when considering how long Melo's been stomping his feet to get out of town.

I think The Nuggs could actually have a better season after this deal.

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« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2010, 06:33:15 PM »

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I just think with Rose, Boozer, and Anthony the Bulls would be a Phoenix Suns type no-defense team.  And you know all three want to put up big shot attempt numbers.  

but you forget who the coach is. noah for anthony? in a heartbeat. but i think melo wants ny.

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Re: Rumor: Chicago to offer Noah, Deng for Carmelo?
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2010, 06:37:51 PM »

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If Chicago does the deal before extending Noah, there's a chance Noah won't want to re-sign with Denver.  Would the Celtics have a shot at getting Noah?  I want Noah on the Celtics so bad.  I love the way he plays. 

Are you kidding me. Noah is one of the players Celtics fans should hate the most. If he becomes a Celtic, this world will end.