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Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #135 on: August 07, 2022, 08:17:07 PM »

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Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #136 on: August 09, 2022, 11:01:32 AM »

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In the "you can't make this stuff up" department, Chris Sale broke his wrist in a bicycle accident.  He'll miss the rest of the season due to surgery.


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Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #137 on: August 09, 2022, 11:06:50 AM »

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Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #138 on: August 09, 2022, 11:34:41 AM »

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In the "you can't make this stuff up" department, Chris Sale broke his wrist in a bicycle accident.  He'll miss the rest of the season due to surgery.
He truly is a performance art tribute to himself.

The Sox have paid around $90,000,000 for 47 innings of pitching over the past 3 years. Just incredible. Sale gets hurt while being hurt.
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Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #139 on: August 09, 2022, 11:39:15 AM »

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In the "you can't make this stuff up" department, Chris Sale broke his wrist in a bicycle accident.  He'll miss the rest of the season due to surgery.
He truly is a performance art tribute to himself.

I can't imagine how disheartening it must be to sign that guy's paychecks!

I guess I could take solace in being a gazillionairre
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Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #140 on: August 09, 2022, 11:50:14 AM »

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In the "you can't make this stuff up" department, Chris Sale broke his wrist in a bicycle accident.  He'll miss the rest of the season due to surgery.

What the crap? Why's he even ON a bicycle?

I'm tired of the constant injuries with Sale. What a wasted contract.
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Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #141 on: August 09, 2022, 01:00:15 PM »

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In the "you can't make this stuff up" department, Chris Sale broke his wrist in a bicycle accident.  He'll miss the rest of the season due to surgery.
He truly is a performance art tribute to himself.

The Sox have paid around $90,000,000 for 47 innings of pitching over the past 3 years. Just incredible. Sale gets hurt while being hurt.
What an absolutely idiotic signing at the time. He was damaged goods in 2018 and still had a year left on his contract. No reason whatsoever that they needed to extend him. And to think that cost them Mookie. Dombrowski was an idiot.

Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #142 on: August 09, 2022, 02:19:33 PM »

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I had heard that Sale had wrist surgery but I hadn't heard the Bicycle accident part.  Wow.  When they signed the extension, the Sox probably expected there would be elbow surgery at some point and a season missed but to now have missed essentially 2 full seasons, wow.

And you wonder why the Sox are reluctant to sign big long term contracts.  Pitcher are very different than position players but this is not going to help the Sox feel good about signing Bogaerts or Devers to long term super deals.

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« Reply #143 on: August 09, 2022, 02:41:01 PM »

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I had heard that Sale had wrist surgery but I hadn't heard the Bicycle accident part.  Wow.  When they signed the extension, the Sox probably expected there would be elbow surgery at some point and a season missed but to now have missed essentially 2 full seasons, wow.

And you wonder why the Sox are reluctant to sign big long term contracts.  Pitcher are very different than position players but this is not going to help the Sox feel good about signing Bogaerts or Devers to long term super deals.

Devers, IMO, is young enough that I'd feel comfortable giving him a long-term deal.

The problem with Sale in particular, and a lot of big-money deals in general, is that teams are giving them these huge deals when they're near or at (or even past) age 30.

In Sale's case, he was just about 30 when Boston gave him his extension—the guy's always been built like a twig, and has always been a hard thrower, so durability should've been a question on management's mind (I know, hindsight is 20-20, but professional GMs get paid, in part, to consider these issues). In Sale's case, there was still one more season on his prior deal, so management could've waited a year to see if Sale held up and continued to perform well—which he didn't, going 6-11 with a 4.40 ERA in 2019.

In the case of Bogaerts, I want him to stay in Boston, but he turns 30 on October 1, and I'm not sure I want the team to give him a big-money 5-year deal, given that he's likely to decline significantly before that contract is up.
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Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #144 on: August 26, 2022, 09:28:18 AM »

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I finally figured out how to get our win loss when we start a rookie pitcher.  Our rookie starters include Bello, Crawford, Winckowski, and Seabold.  The Sox are 11-20 in games started by this group (not as bad as I thought).  They are 49-45 in games not started by a rookie.

This is going to go down as a train wreck season for sure.  I feel the pitching was by far the biggest issue.  Way too many starts by AAA pitchers.  But many of the bats have disappointed also.

Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #145 on: August 26, 2022, 11:35:37 AM »

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I had heard that Sale had wrist surgery but I hadn't heard the Bicycle accident part.  Wow.  When they signed the extension, the Sox probably expected there would be elbow surgery at some point and a season missed but to now have missed essentially 2 full seasons, wow.

And you wonder why the Sox are reluctant to sign big long term contracts.  Pitcher are very different than position players but this is not going to help the Sox feel good about signing Bogaerts or Devers to long term super deals.

Devers, IMO, is young enough that I'd feel comfortable giving him a long-term deal.

The problem with Sale in particular, and a lot of big-money deals in general, is that teams are giving them these huge deals when they're near or at (or even past) age 30.

In Sale's case, he was just about 30 when Boston gave him his extension—the guy's always been built like a twig, and has always been a hard thrower, so durability should've been a question on management's mind (I know, hindsight is 20-20, but professional GMs get paid, in part, to consider these issues). In Sale's case, there was still one more season on his prior deal, so management could've waited a year to see if Sale held up and continued to perform well—which he didn't, going 6-11 with a 4.40 ERA in 2019.

In the case of Bogaerts, I want him to stay in Boston, but he turns 30 on October 1, and I'm not sure I want the team to give him a big-money 5-year deal, given that he's likely to decline significantly before that contract is up.

I’m ok with them letting bogarts leave at this point as long as they actually spend the money on someone else. He is just an average defensive player and seems to have lost all his power. I will be interested in what other teams offer him.

Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #146 on: August 26, 2022, 11:42:36 AM »

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I had heard that Sale had wrist surgery but I hadn't heard the Bicycle accident part.  Wow.  When they signed the extension, the Sox probably expected there would be elbow surgery at some point and a season missed but to now have missed essentially 2 full seasons, wow.

And you wonder why the Sox are reluctant to sign big long term contracts.  Pitcher are very different than position players but this is not going to help the Sox feel good about signing Bogaerts or Devers to long term super deals.

Devers, IMO, is young enough that I'd feel comfortable giving him a long-term deal.

The problem with Sale in particular, and a lot of big-money deals in general, is that teams are giving them these huge deals when they're near or at (or even past) age 30.

In Sale's case, he was just about 30 when Boston gave him his extension—the guy's always been built like a twig, and has always been a hard thrower, so durability should've been a question on management's mind (I know, hindsight is 20-20, but professional GMs get paid, in part, to consider these issues). In Sale's case, there was still one more season on his prior deal, so management could've waited a year to see if Sale held up and continued to perform well—which he didn't, going 6-11 with a 4.40 ERA in 2019.

In the case of Bogaerts, I want him to stay in Boston, but he turns 30 on October 1, and I'm not sure I want the team to give him a big-money 5-year deal, given that he's likely to decline significantly before that contract is up.

I’m ok with them letting bogarts leave at this point as long as they actually spend the money on someone else. He is just an average defensive player and seems to have lost all his power. I will be interested in what other teams offer him.

Supposedly, Bogey has a shoulder problem from a collision with Verdugo earlier in the season that has sapped his power, and shouldn’t be a long term problem. If that’s indeed true, I’d love to have him back.

Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #147 on: August 26, 2022, 12:28:28 PM »

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I finally figured out how to get our win loss when we start a rookie pitcher.  Our rookie starters include Bello, Crawford, Winckowski, and Seabold.  The Sox are 11-20 in games started by this group (not as bad as I thought).  They are 49-45 in games not started by a rookie.

This is going to go down as a train wreck season for sure.  I feel the pitching was by far the biggest issue.  Way too many starts by AAA pitchers.  But many of the bats have disappointed also.

Yeah, the pitching has been bad.  But, imagine if our team had Mookie and Freddie Freeman? 


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« Reply #148 on: August 26, 2022, 01:39:50 PM »

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Kyle Schwarber wasn't brought back because he wasn't experienced at first base. Dude leads the NL with 35 HRs and 75 RBIs.

Re: Red Sox 2022
« Reply #149 on: August 26, 2022, 01:54:13 PM »

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Kyle Schwarber wasn't brought back because he wasn't experienced at first base. Dude leads the NL with 35 HRs and 75 RBIs.

Yeah.  That one was ridiculously stupid, too.

There's a realistic alternative universe where the owners use their money-making machine to give us:

1.  Mookie (RF)
2.  Story (2B)
3.  Freeman (1B)
4.  Devers (3B)
5.  Schwarber (LF)
6.  Martinez (DH)
7.  Boegarts (SS)
8.  Vazquez (C)
9.  Kike (CF)

That lineup might even make Sale, Eovaldi, Pivetta, Wacha, Paxton and Hill tolerable, at least if healthy.


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