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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1095 on: December 14, 2019, 08:40:16 PM »

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Give Stevens credit for this:  I think he's on an incredible streak, that so far looks like it will continue this season, of getting his PGs onto All-NBA 2nd Team, something those players were never able to accomplish before Stevens (and perhaps after, we'll see how Irving's season plays out and how he looks with Durant next year).

Isaiah in '17 (never made All-NBA before)
Kyrie in '19 (only made 3rd team once)
Kemba in '20 (only made 3rd team once)

That's pretty impressive.

Not to put the cart before the horse, but if the season ended today, Kemba's gotta be 2nd team, right?  Dončić and Harden are clearly 1st, and I figure Lillard and Walker are pretty solidly 2nd.  Does anyone think differently?  Young has nice stats, but not with his team's record.  Irving would be in the conversation, but it looks like he's going to miss a good chunk of games, so you have a whole bunch of guys are battling it out for 3rd team (Brogdon, Lowry, Young, Beal, Booker, Mitchell, Simmons, etc.), but I feel like 1st and 2nd team feel pretty firm right now.

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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1096 on: December 14, 2019, 08:43:55 PM »

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Coach Glenn "Doc" Rivers is one of the greatest coaches of the last 10-15 years.

Not only did he win Coach of the Year in ORL but he won BOS's 17th Banner, got us close several times and NOW he is making LAC a contender- once again.

Additionally - he turned Tobias Harris from a volume chucker in ORL to a borderline All-Star in PHI. Harris' turnaround started in LAC - under Doc.

Love ya, Doc.

I love Coach Stevens too - don't get me wrong. But Doc Rivers is seemingly an underrated coach.
Doc didn't turnaround Harris.  Harris was already doing quite well in Detroit. 

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1097 on: December 14, 2019, 10:40:23 PM »

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Doncic played only 2 minutes tonight.  Did he get injured?

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1098 on: December 14, 2019, 10:55:16 PM »

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Doncic played only 2 minutes tonight.  Did he get injured?

Stepped on Nunn's foot and twisted his ankle, clip here:
https://twitter.com/claywplg/status/1206028254819295233

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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1099 on: December 14, 2019, 10:55:19 PM »

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Coach Glenn "Doc" Rivers is one of the greatest coaches of the last 10-15 years.

Doc will easily be in the HOF one day for his coaching career.

Popovich, Rivers, Spoelstra, Kerr, Carlisle

That is the top 5 currently in the league.
Stevens is better than 3 of those at least.

Interesting Post.

So far, Coach Stevens has produced a Treadmill Celtics Team....we are stuck on a seemingly proverbial jog over the last few years.



Here's hoping that we will NOT have a disastrous dismount.

Lol, that sums it up well

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1100 on: December 14, 2019, 10:55:43 PM »

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Coach Glenn "Doc" Rivers is one of the greatest coaches of the last 10-15 years.

Doc will easily be in the HOF one day for his coaching career.

Popovich, Rivers, Spoelstra, Kerr, Carlisle

That is the top 5 currently in the league.
Stevens is better than 3 of those at least.

He is?

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1101 on: December 14, 2019, 10:59:26 PM »

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Doncic played only 2 minutes tonight.  Did he get injured?

Stepped on Nunn's foot and twisted his ankle, clip here:
https://twitter.com/claywplg/status/1206028254819295233

That's too bad. I hope he recovers for Wednesday's game agains the Celtics, I was looking forward to seeing how we do against him after our recent losses to the Pacers and Sixers.

I'm surprised the Mavs are still hanging with the Heat without Luka.

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1102 on: December 14, 2019, 11:01:17 PM »

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Man I miss Baynes! He just posted a video of himself getting stitches in his lip. :laugh:

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1103 on: December 15, 2019, 01:26:01 AM »

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Coach Glenn "Doc" Rivers is one of the greatest coaches of the last 10-15 years.

Doc will easily be in the HOF one day for his coaching career.

Popovich, Rivers, Spoelstra, Kerr, Carlisle

That is the top 5 currently in the league.
Stevens is better than 3 of those at least.

He is?
I'd say easily better than Kerr and Carlisle. Not sure what to make of Pop over the last two seasons either, and Spo is debatable.
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1104 on: December 15, 2019, 01:44:37 AM »

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Shouldn't the rockets and Clippers  start thinking about trading Harden and Leonard now that they lost a game as suggested for another team after a recent loss ?????


I'd say easily better than Kerr and Carlisle. Not sure what to make of Pop over the last two seasons either, and Spo is debatable.

i hope you are not comparing carriers

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1105 on: December 15, 2019, 02:56:15 AM »

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Shouldn't the rockets and Clippers  start thinking about trading Harden and Leonard now that they lost a game as suggested for another team after a recent loss ?????


I'd say easily better than Kerr and Carlisle. Not sure what to make of Pop over the last two seasons either, and Spo is debatable.

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Oh no. Talking strictly as of right now, as the top 5 listed by KGs Knee was "current"
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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1106 on: December 15, 2019, 03:45:41 AM »

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Shouldn't the rockets and Clippers  start thinking about trading Harden and Leonard now that they lost a game as suggested for another team after a recent loss ?????


I'd say easily better than Kerr and Carlisle. Not sure what to make of Pop over the last two seasons either, and Spo is debatable.

i hope you are not comparing carriers
Oh no. Talking strictly as of right now, as the top 5 listed by KGs Knee was "current"

I would've wanted whatever you were smoking if you didn't mention "current" and thought career-wise lol. But true, Stevens is better than at least a couple of them. Definitely better than Kerr. Carlisle is getting the Mavs back in shape now after being garbage for a while. Spo still doing pretty well post-Big 3/Wade era.


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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1107 on: December 15, 2019, 04:18:45 AM »

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Shouldn't the rockets and Clippers  start thinking about trading Harden and Leonard now that they lost a game as suggested for another team after a recent loss ?????


I'd say easily better than Kerr and Carlisle. Not sure what to make of Pop over the last two seasons either, and Spo is debatable.

i hope you are not comparing carriers
Oh no. Talking strictly as of right now, as the top 5 listed by KGs Knee was "current"

I would've wanted whatever you were smoking if you didn't mention "current" and thought career-wise lol. But true, Stevens is better than at least a couple of them. Definitely better than Kerr. Carlisle is getting the Mavs back in shape now after being garbage for a while. Spo still doing pretty well post-Big 3/Wade era.
It's easy to get a team into shape when you've got a transcendent offensive player alongside other offensively slanted pieces though. Also it's not difficult to do pretty well with a well balanced supporting cast around one of the best two way wings in the league :laugh:
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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1108 on: December 15, 2019, 04:29:44 AM »

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Shouldn't the rockets and Clippers  start thinking about trading Harden and Leonard now that they lost a game as suggested for another team after a recent loss ?????


I'd say easily better than Kerr and Carlisle. Not sure what to make of Pop over the last two seasons either, and Spo is debatable.

i hope you are not comparing carriers
Oh no. Talking strictly as of right now, as the top 5 listed by KGs Knee was "current"

I would've wanted whatever you were smoking if you didn't mention "current" and thought career-wise lol. But true, Stevens is better than at least a couple of them. Definitely better than Kerr. Carlisle is getting the Mavs back in shape now after being garbage for a while. Spo still doing pretty well post-Big 3/Wade era.
Yeah, would have been borderline lunacy to suggest Stevens has had a better career than any of those 5.

I think Carlisle is benefiting from having a top 3-5 offensive talent in the league on his team a lot. He's still good, but not quite that good I don't think.
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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #1109 on: December 15, 2019, 05:25:39 AM »

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Shouldn't the rockets and Clippers  start thinking about trading Harden and Leonard now that they lost a game as suggested for another team after a recent loss ?????


I'd say easily better than Kerr and Carlisle. Not sure what to make of Pop over the last two seasons either, and Spo is debatable.

i hope you are not comparing carriers
Oh no. Talking strictly as of right now, as the top 5 listed by KGs Knee was "current"

I would've wanted whatever you were smoking if you didn't mention "current" and thought career-wise lol. But true, Stevens is better than at least a couple of them. Definitely better than Kerr. Carlisle is getting the Mavs back in shape now after being garbage for a while. Spo still doing pretty well post-Big 3/Wade era.
Yeah, would have been borderline lunacy to suggest Stevens has had a better career than any of those 5.

I think Carlisle is benefiting from having a top 3-5 offensive talent in the league on his team a lot. He's still good, but not quite that good I don't think.
I think Doncic is the clear cut #1 in terms of offensive megastars with Curry out. His impact metrics+adjusted box stats on offence are insane and the eye test supports both of them. Look at the graph below for how crazy his offence is, Backpicks BPM purely box based but it adjusts for quality of the stats (eg. How valuable is the assist, how were the points scored, etc) iirc so it attempts to measure offensive skill than raw box numbers. Obviously it's for players 21 or under, but Doncic still compares favourably to current superstars in the league regardless of age.

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