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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: SparzWizard on October 16, 2018, 10:59:32 PM
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Make all your comments and posts here for other games. Enjoy! ;D
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PG is looking thinner.
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Chris Webber is such an unbearable hyperbole merchant.
"Before his injury DeMarcus was the best big man in the league."
He wasn't even the best big on his team!
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Schroder is such a good pickup for OKC!
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Chris Webber is such an unbearable hyperbole merchant.
"Before his injury DeMarcus was the best big man in the league."
He wasn't even the best big on his team!
Pretty much every national announcer is terrible, and he’s certainly no exception.
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Chris Webber is such an unbearable hyperbole merchant.
"Before his injury DeMarcus was the best big man in the league."
He wasn't even the best big on his team!
Pretty much every national announcer is terrible, and he’s certainly no exception.
Completely agree. I just want Tommy, Mike & Scal for every single game, is that too much to ask for?!
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okc held tough, needed RW. they may be a solid team with melo out.
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okc held tough, needed RW. they may be a solid team with melo out.
Was about to say, they look far better with having replaced Melo with Schroder
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I'm guessing nobody watched the ring ceremony tonight because we too busy celebrating Celtics win (and for some of us, Sox win) :laugh:
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I cannot believe Orlando is starting Vucevic over Mo Bamba!
When will they ever learn that Vucevic is not a winning center. He is too bad on defense.
Play Mo Bamba and trust the young guys to scrap it out on defense and push the tempo.
Move on from Vucevic and that old tried formula already.
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I cannot believe Orlando is starting Vucevic over Mo Bamba!
When will they ever learn that Vucevic is not a winning center. He is too bad on defense.
Play Mo Bamba and trust the young guys to scrap it out on defense and push the tempo.
Move on from Vucevic and that old tried formula already.
That might be the exact idea for this season, lol. Another top pick and off we go!
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Anyone know why I can't leave a comment or a reply in the new game thread?
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Anyone know why I can't leave a comment or a reply in the new game thread?
Only thing I can think of is that it’ll be locked until closer to the game? Unsure why
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Anyone know why I can't leave a comment or a reply in the new game thread?
Only thing I can think of is that it’ll be locked until closer to the game? Unsure why
Maybe so.There are two responses already so maybe it's something else?
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Love looks terrible and he may be one of the worst defensive bigs in the game.
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Anthony Davis is on a whole other level....
At the half Davis has 18 pts 8-10 and 8 reb 6 ast 3 blks 1 stl and 0 TO
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Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.
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Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.
The Pelicans have a very good team.
Maybe they need a couple of more bench guys...
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Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.
The Pelicans have a very good team.
Maybe they need a couple of more bench guys...
Pelicans have already scored 91 points and there's still 5 mins left in the 3rd quarter. They're a solid team, but this would imply a jump to GSW level offense.
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Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.
The Pelicans have a very good team.
Maybe they need a couple of more bench guys...
Pelicans have already scored 91 points and there's still 5 mins left in the 3rd quarter. They're a solid team, but this would imply a jump to GSW level offense.
They have a good starting 5 and Randle is giving them a push off the bench!
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Rockets are getting flattened.
I know they want that rematch with GS, but they have to get there first.
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Houston really let their defense walk away this offseason.
The Pelicans have a very good team.
Maybe they need a couple of more bench guys...
Pelicans have already scored 91 points and there's still 5 mins left in the 3rd quarter. They're a solid team, but this would imply a jump to GSW level offense.
They have a good starting 5 and Randle is giving them a push off the bench!
I'm not saying they're a bad team. But Houston's defense is really bad right now. They've given up 100 points in 3 quarters. That's a huge regression from where they were last year.
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Pelicans’ lack of depth is starting to show. Tired.
EDIT: And just as I type that, three straight buckets.
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Excited for Mavs-Suns, the kids, Ayton vs Doncic! Booker’s back and squaring off with DSJ!
Also, the Kings play Utah... How ugly will it get??
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Jarrett Allen looks like a steal. When RHJ comes back that could be a fun elite defending 4/5 duo
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Kings kicking the crap out of the Jazz early on.
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Welp. Kings is pounding the Jazz early.
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Harrison Barnes is out?
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The Deandre Jordan and Luka Doncic tandem is really fun.
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Kings kicking the crap out of the Jazz early on.
Welp. Kings is pounding the Jazz early.
Aaaaand Jazz up by 13 at half time
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Kings kicking the crap out of the Jazz early on.
Welp. Kings is pounding the Jazz early.
Aaaaand Jazz up by 13 at half time
looking much better for our pick, just where we want them.
aww hell, kings are back...
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Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?
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Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?
did u see KAT's line? yuck.
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Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?
did u see KAT's line? yuck.
22 minutes for the Wolves 200 million dollar man.
There is a power play going on right now. Thibs and Butler vs Ownership and KAT.
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Celtics start 1-0, with a great chance to start 4-0 if they beat Toronto Friday, Kings start 0-1, hooray!
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Been saying this all summer: watch out for the Indiana Pacers..no one talking bout this team and i pick them to finish 3rd in the East
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Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?
did u see KAT's line? yuck.
22 minutes for the Wolves 200 million dollar man.
There is a power play going on right now. Thibs and Butler vs Ownership and KAT.
He fouled out, but the bigger concern has to be only 6 shots (I mean Dieng had 8 in 2 more minutes then Towns). Of course that falls in line with last year as well (not many shots, but super efficient - obviously he wasn't super efficient yesterday). Does Towns pass up shots or does the offense just not create shots for him? I don't watch the Wolves enough to know that answer. If it is the former that would be a concern, if it is the latter maybe it is time for new coaches.
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Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?
did u see KAT's line? yuck.
22 minutes for the Wolves 200 million dollar man.
There is a power play going on right now. Thibs and Butler vs Ownership and KAT.
He fouled out, but the bigger concern has to be only 6 shots (I mean Dieng had 8 in 2 more minutes then Towns). Of course that falls in line with last year as well (not many shots, but super efficient - obviously he wasn't super efficient yesterday). Does Towns pass up shots or does the offense just not create shots for him? I don't watch the Wolves enough to know that answer. If it is the former that would be a concern, if it is the latter maybe it is time for new coaches.
Towns doesn't pass up many good shots but he isn't very assertive about getting the ball when it's not in his hands. He's pretty passive without the ball and lets the game come to him, which isn't a positive for a guy with his abilities. He also has a tendency to just hang out by the 3 point line - it's hard to say if that's him or the offensive scheme but it contributes to the passivity.
Basically the offense isn't feeding him many shots but he isn't being proactive about getting them either. He tends to take pretty good advantage of the shot opportunities he does get but the general passivity means active defenses can often shut him down.
Also can't rule out that Jimmy just plain took his soul last week in practice Kwame Brown style but we'll need more data on that.
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So what was up with Jrue Holiday's headband? I feel like that can't be legal (not complaining about it, just surprised).
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Looked like the Karate Kid or Solid Snake out there.
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Jimmy Butler played pretty well with the Wolves tonight despite the loss. Did he finally mend wounds with the team?
Owner just stated again yesterday that they are committed to trading him.
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Been saying this all summer: watch out for the Indiana Pacers..no one talking bout this team and i pick them to finish 3rd in the East
TP for making a statement I agree upon ;).
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Fultz is still broken, man. He just had a wide open corner three and passed it up to drive into three defenders.
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Fultz is still broken, man. He just had a wide open corner three and passed it up to drive into three defenders.
But Embiid is going wild...
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Bulls look nice.
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Bulls look nice.
Phillies defense is a sieve....
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Fultz is still broken, man. He just had a wide open corner three and passed it up to drive into three defenders.
But Embiid is going wild...
Bulls should have started Lopez. He can’t stop Embiid either, but he’s the only one on the roster with a prayer.
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Fultz just doesn't look good out there, at anything.
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I think Lavine is like 85% of Devin Booker. Explosive scorer. Can create for others. Poor defender. Smooth athlete.
If he could absorb some contact and draw fouls, he would be even closer.
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How's Carter Jr. looking? I was really hoping the Celts could swing a trade for him during the draft.
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Fultz passed up on shooting a wide open 3
Think I heard the fans are starting to boo Fultz lol
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Fultz is like a robot that plays basketball. Ainge definitely picked on his ho hum attitude above all else.
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I have to say I am enjoying watching these young bulls tonight.
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I know the Bulls are bad but seeing Philly up 26 points in the 3rd makes me feel even better about the Celtics' win last night.
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I know the Bulls are bad but seeing Philly up 26 points in the 3rd makes me feel even better about the Celtics' win last night.
if the bulls could stop taking bad 3 point shots they would be more in this game.
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I know the Bulls are bad but seeing Philly up 26 points in the 3rd makes me feel even better about the Celtics' win last night.
if the bulls could stop taking bad 3 point shots they would be more in this game.
Too many unrepentant gunners who have no interest in playing defense. The LaVine-Parker-Portis trio is bad news for winning, but great news for tanking.
The future of that team is in Markkanen/Carter, and maybe Dunn.
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well the lakers / trailblazers game is starting out interesting
man I hate Rondo on the lakers
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well the lakers / trailblazers game is starting out interesting
man I hate Rondo on the lakers
The Lakers are a whiny group...
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Gosh LeBron looks disgusting in yellow.
So does Rondo.
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Well, Lebron is still Lebron, and the Lakers look pretty good because of it.
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Well, Lebron is still Lebron, and the Lakers look pretty good because of it.
Perhaps LeBron may do better in the West with this roster...
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ok....been watching ...and im gonna be called a ref hater ...
but this Portland vs Laa game is soooooo lopsided FOR LA ...it is really pathetic on part of the NBA
They are calling fouls on Porland anytime people get near the Whiner .
smh
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A lot of Lakers fans in Portland tonight...haven't seen them since the 'ol Kobe days. Look how times have changed.
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ok....been watching ...and im gonna be called a ref hater ...
but this Portland vs Laa game is soooooo lopsided FOR LA ...it is really pathetic on part of the NBA
They are calling fouls on Porland anytime people get near the Whiner .
smh
The Lakers can really flay those arms and jerk those heads back....
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I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.
Really pushing the pace.
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ok....been watching ...and im gonna be called a ref hater ...
but this Portland vs Laa game is soooooo lopsided FOR LA ...it is really pathetic on part of the NBA
They are calling fouls on Porland anytime people get near the Whiner .
smh
The Lakers can really flay those arms and jerk those heads back....
lakers are more dislikeable for me than ever with Laker Rondo and his new buddy Bron
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I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.
Really pushing the pace.
I liked how Chris Webber said the Lakers were going to hang there hats on defense....
They just gave up 34 points in there 1st quarter...
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what a cast of players on LA .
whos who of misfits
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I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.
Really pushing the pace.
I liked how Chris Webber said the Lakers were going to hang there hats on defense....
Yeah that isn't happening lol...I think the lakers are going to try and run people ragged and hope they can outscore everyone.
Lebron looks basically the same...such an odd mix of players lol
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I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.
Really pushing the pace.
I liked how Chris Webber said the Lakers were going to hang there hats on defense....
They just gave up 34 points in there 1st quarter...
they butter the bread of the refs ...thats where their advantage is .....refs letting bron do anything he wants ......thats just hard to overcome
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I have to admit the lakers are playing with some bounce tonight.
Really pushing the pace.
I liked how Chris Webber said the Lakers were going to hang there hats on defense....
They just gave up 34 points in there 1st quarter...
they butter the bread of the refs ...thats where their advantage is .....refs letting bron do anything he wants ......thats just hard to overcome
No way LeBron is going to run all season...
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The Fakes will be fun to watch but I just don’t see LeBron being all to play at this pace all season. Lakers bench will be pretty meh.
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Lakers minus bron are only a few games better than Cavs IMO
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Cool Hayward cartoon ad.
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The Fakes will be fun to watch but I just don’t see LeBron being all to play at this pace all season. Lakers bench will be pretty meh.
exactly .....bron sweating like a pig ...playing full out .....if he an't on the floor LA is not winning alot
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Stauskas on fire
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Stauskas is on fire!
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bron a cheating whiner
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Stauskas on fire
Yes he is!
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mcgee taking flopping lessons for daddy bron
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Stauskas on fire
Yes he is!
hahaha...
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i luv bigfoot commercials chasing people ....lol
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Le Complainer
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Stauskas on fire
Stauskas??
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Stauskas on fire
Stauskas??
Yes!
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LeBron is crying to the refs!
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Stauskas on fire
Stauskas??
Yes!
I know, it is hard to believe but it was true
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Stauskas on fire
Stauskas??
Yes!
I know, it is hard to believe but it was true
4-5 from 3
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Wrong thread
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Stauskas on fire
Stauskas??
Yes!
NIK ROCKS!
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lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game
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lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game
Gang that can't shoot straight.
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lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game
Lakers playing like this is a finals game ....Walton and Bron really really want this first game...angling for recruiting the next max player .
I happen to rarely agree with Sir Charlie ....i don't think Bron can play this hard 80 plus games,there are no easy games other than Kins in West . He can't take days off
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lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game
Lakers playing like this is a finals game ....Walton and Bron really really want this first game...angling for recruiting the next max player .
I happen to rarely agree with Sir Charlie ....i don't think Bron can play this hard 80 plus games,there are no easy games other than Kins in West . He can't take days off
I agree. I don't think Rondo can play like this all season either...
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lakers 0-12 from 3 and only down 4 crazy game
Lakers playing like this is a finals game ....Walton and Bron really really want this first game...angling for recruiting the next max player .
I happen to rarely agree with Sir Charlie ....i don't think Bron can play this hard 80 plus games,there are no easy games other than Kins in West . He can't take days off
I agree. I don't think Rondo can play like this all season either...
that last series bron dragging , standing around watching the other four guys . He may have burnt out too early . But if he comes out Blazer swill surge for sure.
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You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
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Lakers vs Blazers... All I care about is how's logo doing.
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You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
idk but I want to thank josh Jackson for skipping that work out and making Ainge fly across the country for nothing
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You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
Ball looks terrible
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You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
Ball looks terrible
still better than Fultz lol
But yeah ball and Fultz are many tiers below Tatum.
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LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
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LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
he's given up on the Lakers
That didnt take long
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You think The Lakers wish they took Tatum over Ball?
idk but I want to thank josh Jackson for skipping that work out and making Ainge fly across the country for nothing
Knowing Ainge, he wasn't even on that plane! ;D
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LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
he's given up on the Lakers
That didnt take long
He also looks really tired.
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LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
he's given up on the Lakers
That didnt take long
that was fast...lol 1 game in
I doubt he ever was all in to even give up on them. he knows this isn't a great roster.
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Chris Webber is such a Lakers fanboy!
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The Lakers don't have anyone who can guard guards.
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The 76ers forums are celebrating because Fultz made 1 single wide open 3 in garbage time :D
Fultz finished 5-15 lol
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The Lakers are going to be bottom five in defense.
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LeBron doesn't seem into this game...
he's given up on the Lakers
That didnt take long
Better get used to it LeBron. The West does more damage than his past tenures with the East. He ain't seen nothing yet, and it's just the Blazers.
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The 76ers forums are celebrating because Fultz made 1 single wide open 3 in garbage time :D
Fultz finished 5-15 lol
Imagine having so little to cheer about. What really amazed me is that he was allowed to shoot 15 shots. I get that it was against a lowly Chicago without their best defender, in Dunn, but even so
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I didn't like how TNT coverage didn't play any homage to Trail Blazers' passing of Paul Allen during their home intro/tribute....but they all focused on LeBron James and his Laker debut.
Makes me continue to hate LeBron and Lakers even more. I'm glad the Blazers beat them tonight, in tribute to Paul Allen.
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Double-post. Delete
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Fultz hit his 1st career 3.
Standing ovation followed.
It looks like no confetti was thrown.
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Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.
I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.
I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.
Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.
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Šarić isn't a great outside shooter, although he is improving it for the last 5 years.
Last year he made solid improvement in both efficiency and volume from downtown.
He started the season 2/10.
It is still early, but with Fultz in the lineup opened shots for him will be rarer or of a lesser quality.
Shame for my boy.
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LeBron lost in his first game as a Laker.
http://tv5.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401070218
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I fell asleep , and missed the last quarter , but the Lakers Blazers was a pretty intense game. I was just dead tired wee hours of the morning to stay awake.
Bron seemed to consider this an extremely important game . He was focused as hard as I. e ever seen him for regular season game. He was trying to play team ball....i know it was killing him.
Lakers ...Bron and Rondo were playing an insane fast pace ...one like they were 20 year olds . It was fun to watch .
Bron and Rondo were playing FULL 100 % , although Bron seemed to drag as i fell asleep.
i just can't see those two playing that hard 80 games . There will be few nights off in the west , Rondo will need to play like he is 21 years old every minute to compete out west .
Lonzo looked lost , this is bad , kid needs to,be on the court ...if he is future . Point two.....Lakers are just a better version of Cavs when Bron is off the court . So if Bron has any injury , Lakers are not beating many teams.
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Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.
I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.
I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.
Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.
Ben Wallace? Rip Hamilton? Ronny Turiaf?
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Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.
I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.
I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.
Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.
Ben Wallace? Rip Hamilton? Ronny Turiaf?
Jeremy Lin? ;)
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Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.
I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.
I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.
Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.
Ben Wallace? Rip Hamilton? Ronny Turiaf?
Jeremy Lin? ;)
TP. Good calls.
I was thinking more about the Melos, AI's and DeAngelos Russels of the world.
Those high usage gunners.
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Wizards opened the season with a loss.
Could it be that Wall is still icing Otto Porter, who put up just 7 shots, no 3's, in 33 minutes.
His usage - 11,2%
It will be interesting to monitor that dynamic and stats.
By no means is Porter a star, but IMO he is underutilized.
I feel like Wall is one of the more deluded players in the game regarding his status in the NBA hierarchy. He thinks he is an MJ and acts like he is the MVP.
I like to watch him play, but he often acts like a spoiled brat. He often underperforms in the clutch, alienates teammates and shows no signs of improving on his biggest weaknesses, leadership and outside shooting.
Oh, I almost forgot, he made himself cornrows. By my count, the only player that didn't lower his team chemistry and wore them ever was Kawhi in his earlier days with the Spurs.
Ty Lue
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;D
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If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY
Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer :D
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Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
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If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY
Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer :D
It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.
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If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY
Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer :D
It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.
I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.
I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.
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If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY
Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer :D
It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.
I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.
I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.
They are giving Kelly 12.5 million this year.
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Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.
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If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY
Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer :D
It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.
Yeah I wish Kelly well when he's not playing us - that Game 7 should have earned him every Cs fan's goodwill - and I think it's hilarious that he took out the Wizards yet again. But I'm also glad we're not paying him Marcus Smart money to be a competent big man who sometimes comes up in big moments.
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If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY
Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer :D
It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.
I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.
I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.
Olynyk would be a great fit on that Wizards team. I think he'd do a better job for them than Dwight Howard will. Olynyk's high post play (passing and shooting) would really open up the floor for Wall and Beal. Help make the most of their talented guards.
Washington should try and get Olynyk.
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Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.
5 point 1-3, KCP?
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If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY
Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer :D
It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.
I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.
I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.
Olynyk would be a great fit on that Wizards team. I think he'd do a better job for them than Dwight Howard will. Olynyk's high post play (passing and shooting) would really open up the floor for Wall and Beal. Help make the most of their talented guards.
Washington should try and get Olynyk.
if Doc was their coach/gm they would lol
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If anybody missed it, Celtic legend Kelly Olynyk with the game winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYRWcUCboY
Call my man Volymort, because he is a Wizard killer :D
It's good to see Kelly hitting the game winner as long as it's not against the Celtics. Miami overpaid for Kelly but he can give some good minutes from time to time.
I don't think he's overpaid. A 7-footer who's a good passer, can knock down 3's, and knows where he's supposed to be on defense should be making around $10 mil a year in today's NBA.
I love that Wizards fans are going to start seeing Kelly in their nightmares.
Olynyk would be a great fit on that Wizards team. I think he'd do a better job for them than Dwight Howard will. Olynyk's high post play (passing and shooting) would really open up the floor for Wall and Beal. Help make the most of their talented guards.
Washington should try and get Olynyk.
Olynyk VS Wizards during his 6 years so far.
1. Olynyk in his minutes against the Wizards is 21W-4L-2T in 27 career games including
playoffs.
2. He has the highest +/- in the league VS Wizards at +198. Curry is 2nd at +125. Crowder
3rd at +98 (Crowder is +99 when playing with Olynyk, -1 when not on the floor with K.O.).
The Wiz should definitely try to trade for K.O. just to end the pain he inflicts upon them.
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LeBron lost in his first game as a Laker.
http://tv5.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401070218
Interestingly enough, LeBron lost his NBA-debut to Sacramento, his first time showcasing his talents for South Beach in Boston, his return to Cleveland against New York, and now his Showtime opening act to Portland.
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Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.
5 point 1-3, KCP?
ah yes because 1 game determines things like who is better. If that is the case we might as well cut Irving right now after his 2 of 14 performance.
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Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.
5 point 1-3, KCP?
ah yes because 1 game determines things like who is better. If that is the case we might as well cut Irving right now after his 2 of 14 performance.
wouldn't it be more prudent to use the stretch provision on him?
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Is Josh Hart the best young player on The Lakers? He sure looked like it last night. I'm not sure why he's not in the starting line up.
he is not and he doesn't start because KCP is better than him.
5 point 1-3, KCP?
ah yes because 1 game determines things like who is better. If that is the case we might as well cut Irving right now after his 2 of 14 performance.
You're right that we shouldn't make judgments off of 1 game.
But KCP has rather significant body of work that suggests he's not much better than a replacement level player. Josh Hart has shown more ability and upside in his 1 season than KCP has ever shown.
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Holy crap. The Jazz just put up 81 in the first half against Golden State!
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Utah can really ball
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Holy crap. The Jazz just put up 81 in the first half against Golden State!
Could the Warriors be missing Cousins' presence
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Holy crap. The Jazz just put up 81 in the first half against Golden State!
Could the Warriors be missing Cousins' presence
How can you miss something you've never had?
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This jazz game is amazing. 2 buzzer beaters, Curry bleeding. Jazz score 103 in 3 quarters.
Exum and ingles aren't too bad. I always thought exum might have been a bust after first few season
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Ingles had a 92% TS% in the first game of the season. That might be going up lol
Who is this guy?
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Klay was mad because he was the only one hustling back on defense for the warriors
Wonder if he's leaving at the end of the season
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Jingling Joe is amazing, that ugly stroke is deadly.
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Former Celtic Jae Crowder seemingly sealed the game with a tip in 2 pointer and then Jonas Jerebko, also former Celtic, tips in a 2 point rebound on the other end to win it as time expires right over crowder. Former Celtics bench players going at it. Pretty rad.
Brutal
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Ingles had a 92% TS% in the first game of the season. That might be going up lol
Who is this guy?
The best Aussie in the league ;)
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Will you be watching the Lakers game tonight? I love the NBA too much not to watch even though it's been beaten to death by the media.
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Will you be watching the Lakers game tonight? I love the NBA too much not to watch even though it's been beaten to death by the media.
As much as it pains me, when the Lakers have Rondo and LeBron on together they’re quite entertaining. Might watch the second half
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Will you be watching the Lakers game tonight? I love the NBA too much not to watch even though it's been beaten to death by the media.
As much as it pains me, when the Lakers have Rondo and LeBron on together they’re quite entertaining. Might watch the second half
LeBron is great, I'm just going to enjoy him as much as possible until he retires.
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Will you be watching the Lakers game tonight? I love the NBA too much not to watch even though it's been beaten to death by the media.
As much as it pains me, when the Lakers have Rondo and LeBron on together they’re quite entertaining. Might watch the second half
yeah I watched their 1st game just for that reason, and the fact that they are playing at a crazy pace.
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I knew Rondo and Lebron would have great chemistry. I still remember Rondo's lob to Lebron in the All-Star game back then.
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Nikola Jokic is the second player in league history with a 30 point triple-double with 100% shooting from the field. The other is Wilt
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Rondo very active on defense....he is really playing like playoff Rondo perhaps to keep Ball on the bench.
If Rondo continues at this pace he will put additional years on LeBron career.
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this rockets / lakers game has been pretty entertaining
CP3 on fire, and the lakers hodge podge lineup overachieving
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Lebron should be on that Rockets team with his friends CP3 and Melo, not playing against them with guys like Rondo and McGee.
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Houston is not LA.
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Ennis did have his hand on the ball.
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Rondo very active on defense....he is really playing like playoff Rondo perhaps to keep Ball on the bench.
If Rondo continues at this pace he will put additional years on LeBron career.
He's playing for a contract.
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CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.
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CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.
Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?
Ball is looking a lot better tonight.
I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.
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CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.
Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?
Ball is looking a lot better tonight.
I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.
I think it was Pierce he tried to trade for Paul.
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CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.
Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?
Ball is looking a lot better tonight.
I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.
I think it was Pierce he tried to trade for Paul.
Yeah, but later i thought he tried to trade Rondo for Paul...
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Say what you will but this Laker team is funny to watch....
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CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.
Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?
Ball is looking a lot better tonight.
I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.
I think it was Pierce he tried to trade for Paul.
Yeah, but later i thought he tried to trade Rondo for Paul...
yes DA tried to trade Rondo for Paul...and a lot of us were up in arms about it
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Say what you will but this Laker team is funny to watch....
they are entertaining
Lebron
Rondo
J McGee
Stephenson
crazy line up
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CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.
Didn't Danny try and trade Rondo for Paul at one point?
Ball is looking a lot better tonight.
I'm not the biggest Randle fan but the Lakers made a mistake letting him go when they had the money. He would've fit in nicely with LeBron.
I think it was Pierce he tried to trade for Paul.
Yeah, but later i thought he tried to trade Rondo for Paul...
yes DA tried to trade Rondo for Paul...and a lot of us were up in arms about it
I think I was. I just loved Rondo.
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WHAT WAS THAT? PUNCHES?
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WHAT WAS THAT? PUNCHES?
CP3 was claiming Rondo spit on him and then they traded punches I think
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Rondo went back to the locker room before anyone even kicked them out
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WHAT WAS THAT? PUNCHES?
CP3 was claiming Rondo spit on him and then they traded punches I think
That was like an 1980s flashback.
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opps correction, CP3 didn't throw a punch he shoved Rondo in the face
if I was Rondo I wouldn't take that crap either.
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Rondo leaves with 13 points / 10 assists / 7 rebounds
CP3 leaves with 28 points / 10 assists / 7 rebounds
they were both having good games
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They will be talking about this for a week.
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I don't find it fun to watch Harden. The refs bail him out just as much as Lebron...
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Ingram - more tattoos than toughness. Blind shove and blind punches.
I hate Harden and Paul but nothing beats watching the Lakers crumble.
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When I watch all this iso ball I tend to miss Tony Allen. He could really defend one on one.
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Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.nit Rondo. Got me cheering for the Lakers..
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WHAT WAS THAT? PUNCHES?
CP3 was claiming Rondo spit on him and then they traded punches I think
I didn't see any spitting by Rondo and the Refs didn't react as if there was. They're both Richards, so anything's possible, but it looked from what I saw that Paul instigated the physical contact putting his hand on Rondo's face and then Rondo started swinging.
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And the replay shows the ref in very close proximity to Rondo and Paul, so he saw what happened.
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Pierce taunting the LA crowd with "Let's go Red Sox" chants. God, I love that man.
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Pierce taunting the LA crowd with "Let's go Red Sox" chants. God, I love that man.
Great to see him out there p---ing off Lakers/Dodgers fans! Though he had it coming from them chanting "wheelchair Paul" ::)
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This is going to be a good season.
Lots of young talent.
The bad teams from previous years look a lot better.
I don’t see to many easy games this year.
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CP3 also usually brings out the best in Rondo. Rondo hates him.
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Lebron should be on that Rockets team with his friends CP3 and Melo, not playing against them with guys like Rondo and McGee.
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Both quotes above were posted well before the CP3-Rondo fight. Lebron's response to the fight, hugging CP3, confirms the previous quote.
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Omer Asik is going to be available. Does he have anything left in the tank?
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I'm starting to slowly sip the Luka Doncic koolaid.
Dude is SPECIAL.
Will be interesting to see him develop over the next few years.
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I'm starting to slowly sip the Luka Doncic koolaid.
Dude is SPECIAL.
Will be interesting to see him develop over the next few years.
My gut is fat from the Doncic Koolaid. He's going to be something special.
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Omer Asik is going to be available. Does he have anything left in the tank?
don't know about TANK.....but he has a butt load of money in the BANK .....for basically for doing nothing
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Omer Asik is going to be available. Does he have anything left in the tank?
He's had nothing left in the tank for several years now, he's worse off than Noah.
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Trae Young is going off right now vs. the Cavs. Lue’s defensive schemes are awful but you have to give credit where it’s due. People were way too quick to write him off based on his SL play (which outside of his shooting % wasn’t bad).
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Omer Asik is going to be available. Does he have anything left in the tank?
He's had nothing left in the tank for several years now, he's worse off than Noah.
Ouch.
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Trae Young is going off right now vs. the Cavs. Lue’s defensive schemes are awful but you have to give credit where it’s due. People were way too quick to write him off based on his SL play (which outside of his shooting % wasn’t bad).
Did the Suns give up on Alex Len too quickly?
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No love for Trae Young? He’s got 35 points.
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No love for Trae Young? He’s got 35 points.
It is impressive, but I prefer an NBA that isnt dominated by frail PGs. So no love for Trae.
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No love for Trae Young? He’s got 35 points.
I'm really happy for him. I don't have any strong feelings about the kid but there were just so many people talking about him as a possible bust, it's nice to see him go out and be strong in his first few games.
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I look at Trae the same way I look at IT. When he’s hot he’s really hot. If not he’ll give up as much as he scores. Consistency over chucking will do him some good.
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Gallinari is such a good player, too bad he can't stay healthy....
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Gallinari is such a good player, too bad he can't stay healthy....
Yeah for a while he looked like he was going to be a star in the NBA. Good win for the Clippers!
Is it wrong to dislike Houston and GS a lot now?
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Denver with a nice game against GSW, big win. So pretty much every team is mortal early in the season.
http://www.nba.com/games/20181021/GSWDEN#/recap (http://www.nba.com/games/20181021/GSWDEN#/recap)
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Gallinari is such a good player, too bad he can't stay healthy....
Yeah for a while he looked like he was going to be a star in the NBA. Good win for the Clippers!
Is it wrong to dislike Houston and GS a lot now?
Maybe I said this a little early. Lead down to 3 with 29.5 seconds. Cmon Clippers!
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No love for Trae Young? He’s got 35 points.
It is impressive, but I prefer an NBA that isnt dominated by frail PGs. So no love for Trae.
LM butt Off .... TP. :D
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I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
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I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
I'd be very surprised. He won't get to pick on laughable defences like Cleveland every week
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I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
I'd be very surprised. He won't get to pick on laughable defences like Cleveland every week
Luka Doncic is the real deal, and he's been solid on both ends.
Last game: 26 points (8-16 FG, 4-9 3P) with 6 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, and a block.
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I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
I'd be very surprised. He won't get to pick on laughable defences like Cleveland every week
Luka Doncic is the real deal, and he's been solid on both ends.
Last game: 26 points (8-16 FG, 4-9 3P) with 6 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, and a block.
Against a terrible T-Wolves team. ;)
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I said in the offseason that imo the Hawks won the trade with the Mavs. Hope Trae keeps it up and proves me right!
I'd be very surprised. He won't get to pick on laughable defences like Cleveland every week
Luka Doncic is the real deal, and he's been solid on both ends.
Last game: 26 points (8-16 FG, 4-9 3P) with 6 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, and a block.
Completely agree. I think he can develop into a Harden-like player on the offensive end, but with defensive ability / effort. Maybe not the gaudy numbers, but even so.
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Trae Young's highlights were impressive. More drives than I expected. Some lovely passes off of those drives too. Good balance between scoring and creating for others. There were a lot of outside shots but more balance than I had expected. Good quality outside of the hot outside shooting.
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Denver team for real folks
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Denver team for real folks
Wonder how they'll be without Barton, and with IT returning
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Denver team for real folks
Wonder how they'll be without Barton, and with IT returning
Monte Morris has been solid through SL and 2 regular season games, possibly good enough to not rush back IT. Loosely related, IT's return has again been slower than expected and I fear he's on a precipitous decline.
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The Lakers don't look good!
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This Spurs - LAL game is getting crazy
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This Spurs - LAL game is getting crazy
possibly an understatement? lol
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This Spurs - LAL game is getting crazy
possibly an understatement? lol
Lol at LeBron. Has been a pretty weak FT shooter his whole career, yet he constantly demands it at the end of the game. It's an alpha move, but at some stage someone has to tell him
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Mills Kills!!!!
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Lonzo caught ball-watching ;D
Tatum might have had a rough night, but man oh man am I glad we have him and not Lonzo/Fultz
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Return of LeChoke!
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Lakers 0-3
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LeBron don't have Kyrie to pass it to, so he clanked the shot.
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Lakers defense is abysmal. Insane 143-142 final score.
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Can't believe I missed this game
I thought Lakers sealed the win with 11 seconds so I didn't bother watching
Nice to see them 0-3 with lebron playing 100 minutes and missing last shot haha
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Can't believe I missed this game
I thought Lakers sealed the win with 11 seconds so I didn't bother watching
Nice to see them 0-3 with lebron playing 100 minutes and missing last shot haha
don't forget he missed both throws to try and put them up by 3 with 12 seconds left in OT
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So what's up with all the high scoring? The rule changes impacting the game already? Seems a lot of teams are really scoring the ball outside of the C's lol
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A lot of players quit playing D because the refs are Whistle happy for any contact . That's what I read. not sure if true
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So what's up with all the high scoring? The rule changes impacting the game already? Seems a lot of teams are really scoring the ball outside of the C's lol
Noticed it too... Teams are shooting lights out but when they face us they come down to earth... Unfortunately our shooting is as abysmal despite the talent the Cs have.
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Lakers lost again so there is a silver lining to all this......
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Lakers lost again so there is a silver lining to all this......
Humm....wonder if Lakers will beat Suns ? tommorrow
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So what's up with all the high scoring? The rule changes impacting the game already? Seems a lot of teams are really scoring the ball outside of the C's lol
Noticed it too... Teams are shooting lights out but when they face us they come down to earth... Unfortunately our shooting is as abysmal despite the talent the Cs have.
Everyone but us :-[
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So what's up with all the high scoring? The rule changes impacting the game already? Seems a lot of teams are really scoring the ball outside of the C's lol
Noticed it too... Teams are shooting lights out but when they face us they come down to earth... Unfortunately our shooting is as abysmal despite the talent the Cs have.
Everyone but us :-[
Feels like teams are bringing their defensive A game against us.. many to see if they can squeeze wins out to have a shot at playoffs (Orl, NY)
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Kawhi Leonard came back from his season long injury much fast than I expected. I thought he'd look more like Hayward does and be on a minutes restriction. Kawhi has looked like the best player in The East so far.
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Kawhi Leonard came back from his season long injury much fast than I expected. I thought he'd look more like Hayward does and be on a minutes restriction. Kawhi has looked like the best player in The East so far.
I thought he was medically cleared last season, he just didn't "feel right"
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Embiid just flopped his way to Drummond getting his second technical and thrown out of the game. They should severely fine him for that, as that's a potentially game-defining flop. Should be cutting a $25,000 check to the league.
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Kawhi Leonard came back from his season long injury revenge against Pop much faster than I expected. I thought he'd look more like Hayward does and be on a minutes restriction. Kawhi has looked like the best player in The East so far.
FTFY
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Oh my Lord, is anyone watching this Philly at Detroit overtime game?? It's one dumb defensive play after another lol Both teams are doing everything they can to give this game away.
First, Reddick fouled Jackson with twenty seconds left in a tie game to stop a fastbreak because he thought they had an extra foul, which put Jackson at the line with the go-ahead points.
Then, Jackson returned the favor by fouling Reddick on a three pointer, which went in and put Philly up one after Reddick made the free throw.
Finally, with five seconds left Griffin took it to the basket, got fouled by Covington, and made the basket, putting them up by one with a second left to win the game.
It was madness and terribly dumb defensive basketball lol I'm heading over to Liberty Ballers for the reactions ;D
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Oh my Lord, is anyone watching this Philly at Detroit overtime game?? It's one dumb defensive play after another lol Both teams are doing everything they can to give this game away.
First, Reddick fouled Jackson with twenty seconds left in a tie game to stop a fastbreak because he thought they had an extra foul, which put Jackson at the line with the go-ahead points.
Then, Jackson returned the favor by fouling Reddick on a three pointer, which went in and put Philly up one after Reddick made the free throw.
Finally, with five seconds left Griffin took it to the basket, got fouled by Covington, and made the basket, putting them up by one with a second left to win the game.
It was madness and terribly dumb defensive basketball lol I'm heading over to Liberty Ballers for the reactions ;D
A beauty of a loss!
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Rumors of Blake's demise seem to be overstated. 50, 14 and 6 tonight :o
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Rumors of Blake's demise seem to be overstated. 50, 14 and 6 tonight :o
Blake is a great player when he's healthy.
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Are the Pelicans the best team in the NBA right now?
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Are the Pelicans the best team in the NBA right now?
No, and I don't even think they've played the best overall. I would give that nod to Denver (though I don't think they are the best team either). Denver's defense has been awesome on the year and the offense isn't too shabby. Golden State is still the best team though, but they might not end up with the best record because they don't care about such things as they know they can win any series on anyone's floor.
Right now, I think Toronto ends up with the most wins in the league by the end of the year. They look fantastic and better than last year's team that won the east and had the 2nd best record in basketball. I don't know that that makes them the best team, per se, but if you are what your record is, they would be in the discussion.
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Are the Pelicans the best team in the NBA right now?
No, and I don't even think they've played the best overall. I would give that nod to Denver (though I don't think they are the best team either). Denver's defense has been awesome on the year and the offense isn't too shabby. Golden State is still the best team though, but they might not end up with the best record because they don't care about such things as they know they can win any series on anyone's floor.
Right now, I think Toronto ends up with the most wins in the league by the end of the year. They look fantastic and better than last year's team that won the east and had the 2nd best record in basketball. I don't know that that makes them the best team, per se, but if you are what your record is, they would be in the discussion.
I was talking about right now not down the road. I think you have to put The Pelicans in the top three so far.
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What happened to penalizing flopping?
https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2018/10/23/18017412/watch-joel-embiid-flop-andre-drummond-pistons-sixers
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What happened to penalizing flopping?
https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2018/10/23/18017412/watch-joel-embiid-flop-andre-drummond-pistons-sixers
Yeah, this was bad, and it had a tangible effect on the game by getting Drummond ejected. Should’ve been a fine.
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What happened to penalizing flopping?
https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2018/10/23/18017412/watch-joel-embiid-flop-andre-drummond-pistons-sixers
Yeah, this was bad, and it had a tangible effect on the game by getting Drummond ejected. Should’ve been a fine.
I also found it interesting that Embiid was trash talking Drummond saying he owned real estate in his head after the game even though the 76ers lost (and embid missed a shot at the buzzer that could have won it). I think Embiid definitely has some growing up to do and I am definitely starting to like him less as time goes on.
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What happened to penalizing flopping?
https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2018/10/23/18017412/watch-joel-embiid-flop-andre-drummond-pistons-sixers
Yeah, this was bad, and it had a tangible effect on the game by getting Drummond ejected. Should’ve been a fine.
I also found it interesting that Embiid was trash talking Drummond saying he owned real estate in his head after the game even though the 76ers lost (and embid missed a shot at the buzzer that could have won it). I think Embiid definitely has some growing up to do and I am definitely starting to like him less as time goes on.
He’s a total chump
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Watching the raptors.... playing efficient simple basketball.
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Watching the raptors.... playing efficient simple basketball.
They've got a solid team and everyone knows their role. I think that's what we're lacking at the moment. People are still trying to figure out their groove in this team.
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VC is in Atalanta ?? I had no idea
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i guess LakeShow James will light up the Sunsfor 50+ tonight
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The Cavs just stink.
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Are the Pelicans the best team in the NBA right now?
No, and I don't even think they've played the best overall. I would give that nod to Denver (though I don't think they are the best team either). Denver's defense has been awesome on the year and the offense isn't too shabby. Golden State is still the best team though, but they might not end up with the best record because they don't care about such things as they know they can win any series on anyone's floor.
Right now, I think Toronto ends up with the most wins in the league by the end of the year. They look fantastic and better than last year's team that won the east and had the 2nd best record in basketball. I don't know that that makes them the best team, per se, but if you are what your record is, they would be in the discussion.
I was talking about right now not down the road. I think you have to put The Pelicans in the top three so far.
sure but their defense hasn't been very good which is a concern. Right now Denver and Toronto are better and Golden State is the best team in the world until someone beats them in the playoffs. Utah might be the best 2 loss team right now (though I'd expect Boston to be better then then by the end if the year)
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Giannis is absolutely blasting Philly. Happy to see them get dominated two games in a row - firstly by Blake, now by Giannis.
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Coach Bud has unleashed a nightmare.
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Remember when Tristan Thompson said the Cavs are still the team to beat in the East
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Remember when Tristan Thompson said the Cavs are still the team to beat in the East
They sure are.
Everyone beats them ;D
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Philly doesn't look very good right now. Under .500 with a dramatic win over magic. We are nkt only team struggling
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Philly doesn't look very good right now. Under .500 with a dramatic win over magic. We are nkt only team struggling
Lots of teams have looked vulnerable. Golden State lost to Denver & won a game off a Jerebko tip-in, OKC are winless, Houston have looked quite poor, the Lakers look poor, and we haven't gelled yet. Going to be interesting seeing how it plays out
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The Cavs just stink.
Lue is a great coach like Doc Rivers . ::)
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The Cavs just stink.
Lue is a great coach like Doc Rivers . ::)
Doc is a much better coach than Lue and this is a guy that hated Doc when he was in Boston and was happy to see him go
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how did Dallas blow a 20 point lead against Atlanta?
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how did Dallas blow a 20 point lead against Atlanta?
Dallas isn't any good, especially without Dirk. I mean have you looked at their big man rotation outside of Jordan.
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how did Dallas blow a 20 point lead against Atlanta?
Dallas isn't any good, especially without Dirk. I mean have you looked at their big man rotation outside of Jordan.
They are missing their leading scorer Harrison Barnes.
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Remember when Tristan Thompson said the Cavs are still the team to beat in the East
They sure are.
Everyone beats them ;D
You win points for amusing. :)
Mike
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Steph Curry's defense last night was terrible, just saying. ;)
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Philly doesn't look very good right now. Under .500 with a dramatic win over magic. We are nkt only team struggling
Early season results are always weird. Anybody remember how Orlando was one of the top teams in the East about 10 games into last season?
My "Milwaukee's better than Philly" take is looking pretty solid so far though.
Remember when Tristan Thompson said the Cavs are still the team to beat in the East
They sure are.
Everyone beats them ;D
Lol, TP.
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Where's Kevin Love? Is he hurt?
Oh, out with sore foot.
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Where's Kevin Love? Is he hurt?
Oh, out with sore foot.
Man he can never stay healthy
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When is the Cleveland fire sale going to start?
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Haha lebron and earlier Westbrook think they are curry with those extra long 3s.
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Laker games should be fun this year if they rack up the losses.
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Anyone notice LeBron is rocking the short shorts this season.
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Anyone notice LeBron is rocking the short shorts this season.
Yeah, you can see his spanks sticking out the bottoms... ;D
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we should have given Javelle McGee that contract he wanted....
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Anyone notice LeBron is rocking the short shorts this season.
Yeah, you can see his spanks sticking out the bottoms... ;D
look likes a general trend towards shorter shorts.
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Lakers do not play any D.
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Lakers do not play an D.
I think one of the commentators said they’re 30th on defence and 2nd offensively. The reverse of what we’ve been this season
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Lillard with 41 points tonight, with 34 in the 2nd half.
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Lillard with 41 points tonight, with 34 in the 2nd half.
I'm a big fan of Dame, but not a big fan of pairing him with McCollum. McCollum seems to me to just be a 90% version of Lillard
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Denver choke job
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Denver choke job
Yup. Credit to make em dance Lance.
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I have a general question for everyone regarding the ridiculous pace of play throughout the league. We can point to the freedom of movement rule or 14 second shot clock after offensive rebounds, but the real cause of high scoring is the absurd pace. To put things in perspective, the Pelicans led the NBA in pace last season, yet their pace from 2017 would only rank 20th so far this season.
Doesn't this trend only help the Celtics in the long run, especially in the Eastern Conference? Coach Stevens isn't going to sacrifice defensive principles and smart basketball for the sake of getting up more shots. We all know the pressure of the postseason leads to a more physical and slower paced brand of basketball. It's also no surprise that the Raptors are undefeated, yet one of the "slowest" paced teams in the league.
Personally I would love to see the Celtics play faster once they develop chemistry between the starting 5. However, there always needs to be some sort of balance. Most of these others teams are going to be lost when the shots aren't falling.
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I have a general question for everyone regarding the ridiculous pace of play throughout the league. We can point to the freedom of movement rule or 14 second shot clock after offensive rebounds, but the real cause of high scoring is the absurd pace. To put things in perspective, the Pelicans led the NBA in pace last season, yet their pace from 2017 would only rank 20th so far this season.
Doesn't this trend only help the Celtics in the long run, especially in the Eastern Conference? Coach Stevens isn't going to sacrifice defensive principles and smart basketball for the sake of getting up more shots. We all know the pressure of the postseason leads to a more physical and slower paced brand of basketball. It's also no surprise that the Raptors are undefeated, yet one of the "slowest" paced teams in the league.
Personally I would love to see the Celtics play faster once they develop chemistry between the starting 5. However, there always needs to be some sort of balance. Most of these others teams are going to be lost when the shots aren't falling.
I’ve been thinking about this as well. All these teams that want to run and gun will look different towards the end of season. Playoff basketball is a different animal. The C’s defensive mindset won’t change and winning games in the 90s won’t be a problem.
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Marcus Morris winning us games while Markieff Morris is hurting us by blowing a game against the Kings with a travel.
Wizards were down 2 with under 10 seconds left when Morris traveled. Kings shoot free throws to go up 4, Wall hits a 3 so Wiz only down 1, Kings miss and make some more free throws, so up 2.
Wizards with the ball down 2 with 2.4 seconds left. Wizards could still win (but have to inbound and go the length of the court), but our good friend Jeff Green says not on my watch, and throws the ball out of bounds, Kings win :-\
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Marcus Morris winning us games while Markieff Morris is hurting us by blowing a game against the Kings with a travel.
Wizards were down 2 with under 10 seconds left when Morris traveled. Kings shoot free throws to go up 4, Wall hits a 3 so Wiz only down 1, Kings miss and make some more free throws, so up 2.
Wizards with the ball down 2 with 2.4 seconds left. Wizards could still win (but have to inbound and go the length of the court), but our good friend Jeff Green says not on my watch, and throws the ball out of bounds, Kings win :-\
Jeff Green continues to just be a dang thorn in our side. Decides to mysteriously show up in the playoffs for the Cavs, and now this.
Hurry up and retire Jeff
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Marcus Morris winning us games while Markieff Morris is hurting us by blowing a game against the Kings with a travel.
Wizards were down 2 with under 10 seconds left when Morris traveled. Kings shoot free throws to go up 4, Wall hits a 3 so Wiz only down 1, Kings miss and make some more free throws, so up 2.
Wizards with the ball down 2 with 2.4 seconds left. Wizards could still win (but have to inbound and go the length of the court), but our good friend Jeff Green says not on my watch, and throws the ball out of bounds, Kings win :-\
Jeff Green continues to just be a dang thorn in our side. Decides to mysteriously show up in the playoffs for the Cavs, and now this.
Hurry up and retire Jeff
The human thorn. Uncle Sleepy wakes up just to be a prick to Celtics fans.
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Looks like Brook Lopez has really opened up the court for Giannis to attack.
C - Brook Lopez
F - Giannis
F - Middleton
G - Brogdon
G - Bledsoe
I didn't think Lopez would help any because he is so poor defensively and a weak rebounder too but offensively that unit is so tough to guard. So tough to send help defenders over to Giannis. The balance offensively of that team is impressive.
I love Brogdon. I think he is a top 10 SG. So well rounded.
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Looks like Brook Lopez has really opened up the court for Giannis to attack.
C - Brook Lopez
F - Giannis
F - Middleton
G - Brogdon
G - Bledsoe
I didn't think Lopez would help any because he is so poor defensively and a weak rebounder too but offensively that unit is so tough to guard. So tough to send help defenders over to Giannis. The balance offensively of that team is impressive.
I love Brogdon. I think he is a top 10 SG. So well rounded.
I don't care for Brook Lopez but that is a nice starting unit. I think they'll wind up the third seed this year.
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Looks like rondo is coming off the bench.
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Do you think The Cavs will win one this year?
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Do you think The Cavs will win one this year?
Pre season counts in Cleveland
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Lakers lose. Dodgers lose. Boston win.
Its a good day.
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Looks like Brook Lopez has really opened up the court for Giannis to attack.
C - Brook Lopez
F - Giannis
F - Middleton
G - Brogdon
G - Bledsoe
I didn't think Lopez would help any because he is so poor defensively and a weak rebounder too but offensively that unit is so tough to guard. So tough to send help defenders over to Giannis. The balance offensively of that team is impressive.
I love Brogdon. I think he is a top 10 SG. So well rounded.
I don't care for Brook Lopez but that is a nice starting unit. I think they'll wind up the third seed this year.
Big game between Bucks and Raptors on Monday. They are the only undefeated teams left in the league. Should be a fun game to watch.
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That Dallas team needs some players off the bench. I like that starting 5.
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That Dallas team needs some players off the bench. I like that starting 5.
Dirk coming back would help.
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Washington is so bad and has so much money wrapped up in 3 players that they can't really do anything. 70 million this year for Beal, Wall and Porter not to mention 16 million for Mahinmi and 12 million for Austin Rivers and it's only going up. Yuk!
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I rarely watch non Celtics games but I was gonna watch raps vs Bucks tonight.
BUT both Giannis and Kawhi are out :-\, so not going to watch.
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Washington is so bad and has so much money wrapped up in 3 players that they can't really do anything. 70 million this year for Beal, Wall and Porter not to mention 16 million for Mahinmi and 12 million for Austin Rivers and it's only going up. Yuk!
I definitely thought they would be better this year. I wonder if Howard will make a difference at all when he gets his toosh healed up. Without him they have to have the worst center play in the league.
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Nerlens Noel had a big night - 20pts 15reb 4stl 2ast 1blk
Most of the points came late in garbage time but he was having a very good game before that. The steals were super. Noel's quickness / ability to cover ground defensively in help and recovery is simply astonishing. Beautiful defender to watch. Great to see him so active on the backboards as well.
He really should be a full time starter somewhere. What a talent.
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gsw up 92-50 at the half on the bulls...klay with 36
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gsw up 92-50 at the half on the bulls...klay with 36
There should be an option to surrender if you’re getting beat down so badly.
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gsw up 92-50 at the half on the bulls...klay with 36
There should be an option to surrender if you’re getting beat down so badly.
Clay Tompson with 52 at the end of the 3rd...14/24 from 3 through 3 quarters wow,
I repeat Wow.
New NBA Record
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gsw up 92-50 at the half on the bulls...klay with 36
There should be an option to surrender if you’re getting beat down so badly.
Called The Bulls option?
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Butler is busting up the Lakers....
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LeBron just loosing the ball at the end of game, sad....
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Aaaaaaaaaand, the lakers lose. Good. ;D
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Aaaaaaaaaand, the lakers lose. Good. ;D
LOL....
thats not funny to LA fans .....hee hee hee
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Doncic is something special.
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Doncic is something special.
Dallas look good with Barnes back. Add Dirk and I like them.
Doncic & DJ are crushing teams inside, outside and everywhere in between
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Doncic is something special.
He sure is...
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The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...
let that sink in.
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The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...
let that sink in.
Ha! What a horrible time to be an LA sports fan, unless support the 4-2 Clippers
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Doncic is something special.
Pretty remarkable. Much better shooter at this stage than I thought - 35% on 7 attempts/game with pretty iffy shot selection.
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Doncic is something special.
Pretty remarkable. Much better shooter at this stage than I thought - 35% on 7 attempts/game with pretty iffy shot selection.
He is so much fun to watch with so much size and talent.
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The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...
let that sink in.
Ha! What a horrible time to be an LA sports fan, unless support the 4-2 Clippers
LeBron James is losing patience. He's about to clean house for the Lakers ahahaha.
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As much as they weren't gonna be contenders, who would have thought that the Cavs would be the last team in the NBA to win a game this season?
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As much as they weren't gonna be contenders, who would have thought that the Cavs would be the last team in the NBA to win a game this season?
I am not that surprised.
Rookie PG.
Their leader left a huge hole.
The defense was horrendous even before, now the offense is too.
Ownership is already tanking.
Somebody has to be the last.
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As much as they weren't gonna be contenders, who would have thought that the Cavs would be the last team in the NBA to win a game this season?
I am not that surprised.
Rookie PG.
Their leader left a huge hole.
The defense was horrendous even before, now the offense is too.
Ownership is already tanking.
Somebody has to be the last.
that WAS TEAM LABRON , i said last year , without Bron they are not making the playoffs , he totally carried that team when it counted. Basically doing same in LA . Who is LA gonna beat without a Bron triple double every night . Especially out west. Bron is starting to look middle aged , like an older boxer , not slim anymore .
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The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...
let that sink in.
Ha! What a horrible time to be an LA sports fan, unless support the 4-2 Clippers
LeBron James is losing patience. He's about to clean house for the Lakers ahahaha.
Lue is available
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The 2017-2018 Lakers had a better 7-game start than the 2018-2019 Lakers...
let that sink in.
Ha! What a horrible time to be an LA sports fan, unless support the 4-2 Clippers
LeBron James is losing patience. He's about to clean house for the Lakers ahahaha.
Lue is available
That would be too hilarious
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How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?
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How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?
I don't think the last 4 would, and by next year I don't think Dallas would either.
I think a lot of his strength comes from having so much attention drawn away from him by KD and Curry
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This season starts off CRAZY!!!
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I use to like watching the Warriors play, but have avoided watching any of their games since Durant signed (other than against the Celtics or the Finals). I was watching some highlights on ESPN, and they were showing the Warriors v Bulls game, where Klay was going off. The Warriors seemed like they were making a mockery of the game, and making the Bulls part of a punch line in a bad joke. How did the Bulls players lay down and die on their home court? Someone needed to go Zaza Pachulia, and take Thompson, Curry or Durant out. If it was OK for Golden State to take out Kawhi, then it should be OK against a Warriors player too.
Don’t get me wrong, I have no problem if a team is just better. If both teams are playing under the same rules, then there should be no excuses. However, when the game is so out of hand and no longer competitive, the winning team should show some sportsmanship and not rub it in and continually try to embarrass their opponent.
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I use to like watching the Warriors play, but have avoided watching any of their games since Durant signed (other than against the Celtics or the Finals). I was watching some highlights on ESPN, and they were showing the Warriors v Bulls game, where Klay was going off. The Warriors seemed like they were making a mockery of the game, and making the Bulls part of a punch line in a bad joke. How did the Bulls players lay down and die on their home court? Someone needed to go Zaza Pachulia, and take Thompson, Curry or Durant out. If it was OK for Golden State to take out Kawhi, then it should be OK against a Warriors player too.
Don’t get me wrong, I have no problem if a team is just better. If both teams are playing under the same rules, then there should be no excuses. However, when the game is so out of hand and no longer competitive, the winning team should show some sportsmanship and not rub it in and continually try to embarrass their opponent.
Curry, Durant, and Thompson didn't play past the (I think) 6 minute mark of the 3rd quarter.
However, I do agree with you. If I'm the Bulls, I don't let that happen. I wouldn't try to injure Thompson - that is the definition of bad sportsmanship. However, I would double him off every screen and refuse to let him get the record. If he drove, I'd try really hard to block the shot (not just contest), and if I fouled him, I fouled him.
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The Bucks are looking really strong. Great game from them against the Raptors. Under Budenholzer this is a completely different team. It's well rounded with good shooters, where Ilyasova and Lopez are great additions and undervalued players. It's been real fun to watch their games.
Raptors on the other hand lack scoring options when Leonard is not available. Lowry isn't a go-to scorer anymore. More like a formidable role player like Marcus Smart.
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I use to like watching the Warriors play, but have avoided watching any of their games since Durant signed (other than against the Celtics or the Finals). I was watching some highlights on ESPN, and they were showing the Warriors v Bulls game, where Klay was going off. The Warriors seemed like they were making a mockery of the game, and making the Bulls part of a punch line in a bad joke. How did the Bulls players lay down and die on their home court? Someone needed to go Zaza Pachulia, and take Thompson, Curry or Durant out. If it was OK for Golden State to take out Kawhi, then it should be OK against a Warriors player too.
Don’t get me wrong, I have no problem if a team is just better. If both teams are playing under the same rules, then there should be no excuses. However, when the game is so out of hand and no longer competitive, the winning team should show some sportsmanship and not rub it in and continually try to embarrass their opponent.
Curry, Durant, and Thompson didn't play past the (I think) 6 minute mark of the 3rd quarter.
However, I do agree with you. If I'm the Bulls, I don't let that happen. I wouldn't try to injure Thompson - that is the definition of bad sportsmanship. However, I would double him off every screen and refuse to let him get the record. If he drove, I'd try really hard to block the shot (not just contest), and if I fouled him, I fouled him.
At a minimum, you foul Klay whenever he touches the ball, and prevent him from putting up another shot.
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How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?
I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.
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I use to like watching the Warriors play, but have avoided watching any of their games since Durant signed (other than against the Celtics or the Finals). I was watching some highlights on ESPN, and they were showing the Warriors v Bulls game, where Klay was going off. The Warriors seemed like they were making a mockery of the game, and making the Bulls part of a punch line in a bad joke. How did the Bulls players lay down and die on their home court? Someone needed to go Zaza Pachulia, and take Thompson, Curry or Durant out. If it was OK for Golden State to take out Kawhi, then it should be OK against a Warriors player too.
Don’t get me wrong, I have no problem if a team is just better. If both teams are playing under the same rules, then there should be no excuses. However, when the game is so out of hand and no longer competitive, the winning team should show some sportsmanship and not rub it in and continually try to embarrass their opponent.
This is professional sports, there's no such thing as 'calling off the dogs'. They're under no obligation to take it easy, it's their opponents job to stop them. Chicago is just a really bad defensive team, probably the worst in the league right now, so I'm not surprised this happened to them.
That said, GSW did eventually take it easy on Chicago, and ended up subbing out most all of their starters mid-way through the 3rd quarter. Which is a major reason why the Bulls actually outscored the Warriors by 17 points in the 2nd half.
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With Butler skipping out, Derrick Rose has a CAREER HIGH (you read that right) 44 and counting in a tight one against Utah. He's had a great resurgence this year.
Plus 2 games in OT and the ESPN game is down to the wire too. Good night of ball so far.
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This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?
I’d love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
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With Butler skipping out, Derrick Rose has a CAREER HIGH (you read that right) 44 and counting in a tight one against Utah. He's had a great resurgence this year.
50 and a game-sealing block for D Rose. What a story.
3 4 50 point scorers so far, two of them for the first time. Crazy year and it's still October!
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This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?
I’d love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
I wouldn't want the Lakers making it into the Finals until the Celtics win a couple more banners to build some distance in the banner counts.
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With Butler skipping out, Derrick Rose has a CAREER HIGH (you read that right) 44 and counting in a tight one against Utah. He's had a great resurgence this year.
50 and a game-sealing block for D Rose. What a story.
3 4 50 point scorers so far, two of them for the first time. Crazy year and it's still October!
I miss this Derrick Rose.
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This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?
I’d love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday. Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.
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Wendell Carter Jr. had a big game. 25 points, 8 rebs, 5 assists, 3 steals, 3 blocks. I was really hoping the Celtics could figure out a way to get him. Horford 2.0
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This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?
I’d love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday. Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.
These may be the most disturbing posts I’ve ever read on this blog. Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magic’s satisfied smile and Jack Nicholson’s cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed. I’m feeling ill.
With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17. And now I have to get up for work.
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This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?
I’d love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday. Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.
These may be the most disturbing posts I’ve ever read on this blog. Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magic’s satisfied smile and Jack Nicholson’s cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed. I’m feeling ill.
With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17. And now I have to get up for work.
Holy misperception. I said I'd like to see Klay on another team, nothing of the Lakers or their championships. If anything, his departure for LA would improve our odds of a championship.
You work too hard, NG. I've found that daily mediocre performance tempers expectations and reduces my own stress.
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This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?
I’d love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
you might be on this blog . i never want the lakers to have anything ......but a bad season.
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This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?
I’d love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday. Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.
These may be the most disturbing posts I’ve ever read on this blog. Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magic’s satisfied smile and Jack Nicholson’s cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed. I’m feeling ill.
With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17. And now I have to get up for work.
Very well put sir, couldn't agree more. Some of this pro-Lakers, 'oh they're so fun to watch' talk makes me nauseous.
They're fun to watch when they lose. That's it.
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This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?
I’d love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday. Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.
These may be the most disturbing posts I’ve ever read on this blog. Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magic’s satisfied smile and Jack Nicholson’s cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed. I’m feeling ill.
With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17. And now I have to get up for work.
I think you're fooling yourself if you think adding Klay makes the Lakers a legit contender. It would weaken the Warriors, and give then a harder path to the finals, but the Lakers wouldn't be a real threat for beating the Warriors and Celtics unless they also added another (bigger) name
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How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?
I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.
Whaaaaa?
He would be the first option on like 20 teams.
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How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?
I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.
Whaaaaa?
He would be the first option on like 20 teams.
Such as? I can quite comfortably think of 10+ teams with better offensive players than Klay
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How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?
I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.
Whaaaaa?
He would be the first option on like 20 teams.
Such as? I can quite comfortably think of 10+ teams with better offensive players than Klay
Like such as...
Shout out to Miss South Carolina.
No, maybe I'm exagerrating, but he maybe gets more shots up than Lillard, DeRozan, Blake, Embiid, PG on those teams (if they are smart). Mitchell should take a backseat too. Denver.
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Wendell Carter Jr. had a big game. 25 points, 8 rebs, 5 assists, 3 steals, 3 blocks. I was really hoping the Celtics could figure out a way to get him. Horford 2.0
Gonna be a very interesting ROY race, though I can't imagine Doncic not getting it.
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How many teams would use Klay Thompson as their first option? Sac, Phx, Heat, Nets, Dallas, Chicago, Orl, Charlotte, Knicks... Washington and Phili maybe?
I'd say Cleveland, New York, Chicago, Brooklyn, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, Sacramento, Memphis, and Clippers.
Whaaaaa?
He would be the first option on like 20 teams.
Such as? I can quite comfortably think of 10+ teams with better offensive players than Klay
Like such as...
Shout out to Miss South Carolina.
No, maybe I'm exagerrating, but he maybe gets more shots up than Lillard, DeRozan, Blake, Embiid, PG on those teams (if they are smart). Mitchell should take a backseat too. Denver.
You're probably giving him more credit than me, and I've got him as the best offensive (and definitely overall) player on around 15 teams, maybe a few more given his unknown ceiling. Not many can go off for 50+ points in <30 minutes at anytime.
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Steph Curry is averaging 33ppg in 34mpg through 9 games. That is unreal.
30+ points a game at a point a minute clip. Insane.
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Steph Curry is averaging 33ppg in 34mpg through 9 games. That is unreal.
30+ points a game at a point a minute clip. Insane.
He's on pace to make 500 3pts this season. That's almost half of Antoine walkers entire career count of made 3s
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The Wizards are an awful basketball team.
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Steph Curry is averaging 33ppg in 34mpg through 9 games. That is unreal.
30+ points a game at a point a minute clip. Insane.
He's on pace to make 500 3pts this season. That's almost half of Antoine walkers entire career count of made 3s
Yeah, but how many 4s has Curry made?
That's what I thought.
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When will Scott Brooks get fired?
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Dallas getting blown out. At home. To the Knicks. Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.
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The Wizards are an awful basketball team.
I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City. The team is an embarrassment to the City. They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!
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This sounds crazy but... am I the only one who would love it if Klay signed up for the Lakers?
I’d love to see him go against Steph and KD and whoever makes it out west, id love to face in the Finals
Very much. He had 52 points in 27 mins (again) on Monday. Greater league balance would be nice, but it'd also be fun to see how good he could be with a larger offensive role.
These may be the most disturbing posts I’ve ever read on this blog. Hoping that the Lakers sign yet another top FA so they can again be championship ready. I can picture Magic’s satisfied smile and Jack Nicholson’s cocky grin. Showtime is re-birthed. I’m feeling ill.
With the world as it is today and you are hoping that the Lakers buy themselves another banner... #17. And now I have to get up for work.
Very well put sir, couldn't agree more. Some of this pro-Lakers, 'oh they're so fun to watch' talk makes me nauseous.
They're fun to watch when they lose. That's it.
I guess I’m coming from a bunch of different places:
1. I think Klay deserves his shot at being featured on offense. He’s 3rd banana right now
2. I really want to beat lebron in the playoffs and when he moved west, it robbed us of that opportunity. I really thought last year was the year we would do it.
3. Game 7 2010 still hurts. I want revenge for that.
4. Of course, toppling GSW and their dynasty would be absolutely delicious. Actually, I’d take any championship! But stakes feel higher when it’s against LA.
I hate it when LA wins but I also love beating LA.
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Dallas getting blown out. At home. To the Knicks. Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.
Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
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The Wizards are an awful basketball team.
Really, really bad.
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Warriors player named mckinnie is good and his story is insane- unknown player who played for division 2. Paid $170 to try out for g league. Now he's a key rotation player for warriors
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Warriors player named mckinnie is good and his story is insane- unknown player who played for division 2. Paid $170 to try out for g league. Now he's a key rotation player for warriors
Still relatively young too. I'd overpay to have him in a 20 team deep fantasy league.
Steph Curry is averaging 33ppg in 34mpg through 9 games. That is unreal.
30+ points a game at a point a minute clip. Insane.
Yup, he stopped making sense a while ago.
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Dallas getting blown out. At home. To the Knicks. Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.
Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good
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Dallas getting blown out. At home. To the Knicks. Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.
Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good
The knicks aren’t good, but they’re far from the worst team in the NBA.
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Dallas getting blown out. At home. To the Knicks. Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.
Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good
The knicks aren’t good, but they’re far from the worst team in the NBA.
They have lots of length and athleticism, some good offensive weapons (I'm a huge Hardaway Jr. fan, and don't think his contract was an overpay) and a good coach in Fizdale IMO. Will be interesting to see them with Kristaps
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Dallas getting blown out. At home. To the Knicks. Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.
Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good
The knicks aren’t good, but they’re far from the worst team in the NBA.
They have lots of length and athleticism, some good offensive weapons (I'm a huge Hardaway Jr. fan, and don't think his contract was an overpay) and a good coach in Fizdale IMO. Will be interesting to see them with Kristaps
Hathaway is a solid early candidate for most improved. I mean he was good last year, but this is a major step up.
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Dallas getting blown out. At home. To the Knicks. Not a good look for a team that many thought was going to be a decent team.
Ehh knicks have been playing hard as of late.
the high school team down the street plays hard also. It doesn't mean they are any good
The knicks aren’t good, but they’re far from the worst team in the NBA.
They have lots of length and athleticism, some good offensive weapons (I'm a huge Hardaway Jr. fan, and don't think his contract was an overpay) and a good coach in Fizdale IMO. Will be interesting to see them with Kristaps
Hathaway is a solid early candidate for most improved. I mean he was good last year, but this is a major step up.
Yeah, he’s really been good so far this year. Hope he can maintain it, even if it’s for the Knicks. Love his attitude as well. Apparently went to Fizdale in the preseason asking how he could become a number 1 option
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The Wizards are an awful basketball team.
I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City. The team is an embarrassment to the City. They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!
Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.
Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
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that was pathetic showing on TNT i think , by wizard. Lakers fans are already calling for Magic to sign Bradley Beal after last nigts awful effort. Beal would make a huge diff for Lrbron. Yong legs that can score in bunches and defend. That game with OKC was one of the worst games I viewed by anybody in a long time
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The Wizards are an awful basketball team.
I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City. The team is an embarrassment to the City. They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!
Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.
Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
Can it be a coincidence that they introduce Dwight Howard into that locker room and Washington is playing like they just don't care? I don't think so.
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Geez. Joel Embiid with 32 points in the first half. 8/9 from the floor and 15/17 from the line. He also had 8 rebounds and 2 blocks. Sixers are up by 19 playing against the Pistons. Andre Drummond played 5 minutes and has 3 fouls.
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Embiid is taking (and eating) Drummond's lunch once again.
It is one thing to talk smack - then ANOTHER to back it up.
Joel Embiid is a GROWN MAN...too bad BOS is standing in his way for the next few years.
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The Wizards are an awful basketball team.
I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City. The team is an embarrassment to the City. They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!
Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.
Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
Can it be a coincidence that they introduce Dwight Howard into that locker room and Washington is playing like they just don't care? I don't think so.
This is one time where I think Dwight won't be at fault. They've had issues for years with that group. It's just coming to a head now. I think they do care - but about the wrong things. Washington didn't offer Oubre an extension, now he's shooting the ball every time he touches it no matter who else is open. There's whispers that Wall and Beal aren't happy with Porter and they've barely gotten him involved on the offense. They don't talk at all on defense. Its clear they don't like each other. I'm sure that happens in every locker room, but they've let it seep into their on court play.
I think they made a mistake extending Wall. They should've traded him. He's talented, but he seems to at the core of the personnel issues and it's been that way since Beal signed his extension. When he doesn't have the ball in his hands, he goes into the corner and pouts. I believe it was Bill Simmons who said he has ZERO points scored off of cuts all of last season. For a guy with his speed, athleticism, and finishing ability, it's unacceptable.
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The Wizards are an awful basketball team.
I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City. The team is an embarrassment to the City. They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!
Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.
Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
Can it be a coincidence that they introduce Dwight Howard into that locker room and Washington is playing like they just don't care? I don't think so.
This is one time where I think Dwight won't be at fault. They've had issues for years with that group. It's just coming to a head now. I think they do care - but about the wrong things. Washington didn't offer Oubre an extension, now he's shooting the ball every time he touches it no matter who else is open. There's whispers that Wall and Beal aren't happy with Porter and they've barely gotten him involved on the offense. They don't talk at all on defense. Its clear they don't like each other. I'm sure that happens in every locker room, but they've let it seep into their on court play.
I think they made a mistake extending Wall. They should've traded him. He's talented, but he seems to at the core of the personnel issues and it's been that way since Beal signed his extension. When he doesn't have the ball in his hands, he goes into the corner and pouts. I believe it was Bill Simmons who said he has ZERO points scored off of cuts all of last season. For a guy with his speed, athleticism, and finishing ability, it's unacceptable.
Yeah, you're right. The bad contracts to Beal, Porter and Wall were bad moves(just don't think any are worth what they signed for). I think Beal and Wall's relationship has been bad for years. I think Wall might be the most selfish player in the league.
And I think Howard was the worst possible addition to the dysfunctionality of the team. He has to be making the situation worse. He might just be the straw that broke the camel's back. This team has horrid chemistry and a ton of selfish players. About the only player I would want on a team I ran is Beal. But not at close to $30 million a year. He ain't worth that.
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Otto Porter's value is dropping by the day. Wonder if a team like Minnesota would even want him in a theoretical Butler trade. Could be an albatross going forward.
What a fiasco.
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Whiteside is 1 of 2 from 3 tonight, didn’t notice he started shooting threes :o
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Embiid clowing Drummond, again LOL
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25168789/joel-embiid-philadelphia-76ers-my-way-build-more-real-estate-detroit-pistons-center-andre-drummond-head
I wouldn't feel so bad for Dre if he hadn't joked about Joel's health when this all started. Now, Joel seems committed to embarrassing him.
At this rate, Joel's nickname will be "City."
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The Wizards are an awful basketball team.
I just returned from the game tonight against Oke City. The team is an embarrassment to the City. They need to get rid of Wall...$40 million a year, yikes!
Ugh. Stinks you paid for that game. I ended up turning it off at the start of the 3rd. They play like they don't care about winning as a team - you can literally see the different agendas. Kelly Oubre in particular is playing some of the most selfish ball of his career.
Idk how tradeable Wall is though. Not with that contract. But they need to do something. That locker room needs a shake up in the worst way.
Can it be a coincidence that they introduce Dwight Howard into that locker room and Washington is playing like they just don't care? I don't think so.
This is one time where I think Dwight won't be at fault. They've had issues for years with that group. It's just coming to a head now. I think they do care - but about the wrong things. Washington didn't offer Oubre an extension, now he's shooting the ball every time he touches it no matter who else is open. There's whispers that Wall and Beal aren't happy with Porter and they've barely gotten him involved on the offense. They don't talk at all on defense. Its clear they don't like each other. I'm sure that happens in every locker room, but they've let it seep into their on court play.
I think they made a mistake extending Wall. They should've traded him. He's talented, but he seems to at the core of the personnel issues and it's been that way since Beal signed his extension. When he doesn't have the ball in his hands, he goes into the corner and pouts. I believe it was Bill Simmons who said he has ZERO points scored off of cuts all of last season. For a guy with his speed, athleticism, and finishing ability, it's unacceptable.
Yeah, you're right. The bad contracts to Beal, Porter and Wall were bad moves(just don't think any are worth what they signed for). I think Beal and Wall's relationship has been bad for years. I think Wall might be the most selfish player in the league.
And I think Howard was the worst possible addition to the dysfunctionality of the team. He has to be making the situation worse. He might just be the straw that broke the camel's back. This team has horrid chemistry and a ton of selfish players. About the only player I would want on a team I ran is Beal. But not at close to $30 million a year. He ain't worth that.
Beal and Porter's contracts are fine, they just aren't a good fit with Wall. If they could somehow move Wall, even at like 50 cents on the dollar, I think it would do wonders for them.
The question is, who would trade for Wall and what would that trade look like. I mean would the Clippers trade Gallinari for him. Gallinari and Beverly for Wall and Oubre. That seems like a trade both those teams might do. Wizards would be interesting with Beverly, Beal, Porter, Gallinari, and Dwight, while the Clippers get a legit star in Wall and a nice up and comer in Oubre to pair with Harris, Gortat, Bradley, Williams, Boban, Teo, etc.
Would a team like the Knicks be interested in getting a legit star to pair with the Zinger. I mean Lee and Ntilikina works salary wise (and drops like 3 million from the Wiz). Certainly not good value for the Wizards, but at least get a solid PG prospect and a quality vet for their bench. Maybe you can get a protected 1st from the Knicks in the trade.
At the end of the day, they have to do something and trying to find anyone to take Wall makes the most sense.
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7 points and 16 assists - what a strange stat line for a center.
That is the sort of thing you expect from a guy like Rondo. Not a center like Jokic.
What an awesome & unusual player Jokic is.
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7 points and 16 assists - what a strange stat line for a center.
That is the sort of thing you expect from a guy like Rondo. Not a center like Jokic.
What an awesome & unusual player Jokic is.
He really is such an odd player. Almost the complete opposite of a guy like Gobert
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Raptors dismantling the Lakers so far.
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Raptors dismantling the Lakers so far.
Understatement ;D
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LeBron or not, the Lakers are a poorly constructed team and won't make the playoffs
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I guess this is the time we should stop underestimating Ibaka. He's been on a tear since Nick Nurse took over.
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Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.
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Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.
Which is why i laugh when ever I see panic threads after the Celtics lose. They’re fine especially compared to the Sixers.
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LeBron or not, the Lakers are a poorly constructed team and won't make the playoffs
I like Tyson Chandler as a player and the Lakers do need help up front but I'm not sure about the fit.
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Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.
Which is why i laugh when ever I see panic threads after the Celtics lose. They’re fine especially compared to the Sixers.
I never understood all the Philly hype while everyone ignored Milwaukee. Milwaukee has always been way better.
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The Raptors are playing scary good tonight!
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Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.
Which is why i laugh when ever I see panic threads after the Celtics lose. They’re fine especially compared to the Sixers.
I never understood all the Philly hype while everyone ignored Milwaukee. Milwaukee has always been way better.
The media outlets have a weird love for Philly. So hilarious seeing them consistently fail
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Philly with a bad loss after crushing Detroit. Philly not looking very good this year. Just okay.
Which is why i laugh when ever I see panic threads after the Celtics lose. They’re fine especially compared to the Sixers.
I never understood all the Philly hype while everyone ignored Milwaukee. Milwaukee has always been way better.
The media outlets have a weird love for Philly. So hilarious seeing them consistently fail
At least the Celticsblog outlets have faded. It used to be that 1/3 of Celticsblog were Philly fans. But now we are... strong. And there are only one or two Philly fanboys left here.
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Lakers got it down to 17. Raptors have a high powered offense and the Lakers jet have a low powered defense.
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Why is Kentavious Caldwell-Pope getting so much cash from the Lakers? Was that some kind of back door deal to land LeBron or something?
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Why is Kentavious Caldwell-Pope getting so much cash from the Lakers? Was that some kind of back door deal to land LeBron or something?
Pretty much. Agents do it all the time.
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Okay, fine, I’ll give you Rozier for Ibaka.
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Why is Kentavious Caldwell-Pope getting so much cash from the Lakers? Was that some kind of back door deal to land LeBron or something?
Because he would sign 1 year contracts. He is shooting pretty badly this year, but he is also a pretty good shooter and respectable enough defender. He is actually a pretty good fit at SG next to James (obviously not super talented or anything, but at least a player whose skill set makes sense).
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LeBron or not, the Lakers are a poorly constructed team and won't make the playoffs
I like Tyson Chandler as a player and the Lakers do need help up front but I'm not sure about the fit.
I thought Chandler would have been one of those good veteran pick-ups that the Celtics could have used.
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Why is Kentavious Caldwell-Pope getting so much cash from the Lakers? Was that some kind of back door deal to land LeBron or something?
Because he would sign 1 year contracts. He is shooting pretty badly this year, but he is also a pretty good shooter and respectable enough defender. He is actually a pretty good fit at SG next to James (obviously not super talented or anything, but at least a player whose skill set makes sense).
I guess I have never watched a game where KCP displayed any NBA skill...
He has a very good agent....
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Washington giving up 70 points in a half to Dallas and look completely disinterested. They really need to make a move.
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Washington giving up 70 points in a half to Dallas and look completely disinterested. They really need to make a move.
Gotta love Doncic!
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How many days until Scott Brooks is fired... :P
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I heard Nets fans started chanting “JAYSON TATUM” when Fultz missed a free throw. Lol.
Pretty ironic coming from them of all teams, but funny nonetheless.
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How many days until Scott Brooks is fired... :P
He still has a job?
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I heard Nets fans started chanting “JAYSON TATUM” when Fultz missed a free throw. Lol.
Pretty ironic coming from them of all teams, but funny nonetheless.
Nets fans hate 76ers fans more than Celtics fans, which I can get along with.
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I heard Nets fans started chanting “JAYSON TATUM” when Fultz missed a free throw. Lol.
Pretty ironic coming from them of all teams, but funny nonetheless.
I kinda like the Nets now. Big fan of Levert, RHJ and Jarrett Allen.
Heck, even Jarrett Allen would've been a better pick than Fultz. He looks pretty legit
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Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?
Minutes the last two games...
26 to 13
28 to 7
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Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?
Minutes the last two games...
26 to 13
28 to 7
Ouch. He was looking really good at the end of last season. Wonder what happened.
Bridges is a good player though. Thought Philly were foolish to move him, as I don't rate Smith
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Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?
Minutes the last two games...
26 to 13
28 to 7
Jackson has been shockingly bad. Glad I wasted a high pick in our fantasy league on that horse's patoot.
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Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?
Minutes the last two games...
26 to 13
28 to 7
Jackson has been shockingly bad. Glad I wasted a high pick in our fantasy league on that horse's patoot.
Ha, same. Saric and JB are two other guys who have completely flunked
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Has Mikal Bridges passed Josh Jackson in the rotation?
Minutes the last two games...
26 to 13
28 to 7
Jackson has been shockingly bad. Glad I wasted a high pick in our fantasy league on that horse's patoot.
Phoenix fans already consider him a bust (and they really regret that their franchise didn't draft Fox). Bridges is looking good though. So the answer is a definite yes to your question.
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Not sure if anyone else is watching this game on espn, but right now saric looks like one of the worst starters in the NBA. He is getting destroyed trying to play defense, getting swatted inside and throwing up bricks. I think he may the next depreciated asset in Philly following on heels of okafor, Noel and fultz. Woof
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Hassan Whiteside is obliterating SAS, jeesh. Nearly got a 30/20/10 game (points/rebounds/blocks)
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I'll give saric credit this quarter. He has rebounded and played better. In other news whiteside will get a triple double with blocks.
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You have to wonder is San Antonio is regretting their efforts to stay competitive this year
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You have to wonder is San Antonio is regretting their efforts to stay competitive this year
I still like their team. It’s not often that LMA will shoot 14%, and losing Murray was something they couldn’t have foreseen. Pop is making DeMar look awesome though
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Mavericks getting embarrassed. I like some of their pieces. Perhaps Moranis is right in saying Carlisle needs to retire
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You have to wonder is San Antonio is regretting their efforts to stay competitive this year
I still like their team. It’s not often that LMA will shoot 14%, and losing Murray was something they couldn’t have foreseen. Pop is making DeMar look awesome though
It does suck about Murray but I think they have quietly been losing key guys like Simmons and Anderson that played really well for pops. They also could obviously use Parker who has been great for the hornets
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Anyone seeing derrick rose? 7-8 from 3, Back to back 3s. 31 pts? This guy is back
He wants another MVP
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Anyone seeing derrick rose? 7-8 from 3, Back to back 3s. 34 pts? This guy is back
He wants another MVP
too bad he missed that last one >:(
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Anyone seeing derrick rose? 7-8 from 3, Back to back 3s. 34 pts? This guy is back
He wants another MVP
too bad he missed that last one >:(
lol hero ball. A 2 would have been enough but no surprise considering his % tonight
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Jimmy and KAT are 3rd and 4th in usage.
DRose and Wiggins are above them, ridiculous.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2019.html
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Dončić, as I predicted years ago, is clearly the best rookie in this class.
Scores more PPG than he has years. The creation, shooting, size, efficiency, rebounding - everything you want.
It will be interesting to monitor how long will Dennis Smith Jr. last beside him if he doesn't improve his jumper quickly enough. I like the idea of 2 creators on the same team, but he is expendable for a wing upgrade IMO.
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Anyone seeing derrick rose? 7-8 from 3, Back to back 3s. 31 pts? This guy is back
He wants another MVP
His first one wasn’t all that deserved (LeBron-bias), he certainly won’t see another.
Maybe he should set his sights on a ring or something.
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You have to wonder is San Antonio is regretting their efforts to stay competitive this year
I still like their team. It’s not often that LMA will shoot 14%, and losing Murray was something they couldn’t have foreseen. Pop is making DeMar look awesome though
10ppg on 8-28fg his last two games.
I can’t imagine how Pop isn’t considering bringing him off the bench until he gets right. I think I saw a tweet that they are considering sending him to the G-League.
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Mavericks getting embarrassed. I like some of their pieces. Perhaps Moranis is right in saying Carlisle needs to retire
DeAndre Jordan was playing Jabari Parker level defense LOL. Check out this thread with clips of his effort during the first six minutes of the game...
https://twitter.com/andyblarsen/status/1060419515262021632
DeAndre Jordan straight up didn't try tonight, and the Mavericks should be upset with him (making $22.9M this year!). A quick thread of literally just him not caring in the first few minutes of the first quarter coming up (1/IDK, 7 or so)
This is all in the first 6:20 of the game. I don't know what to say. I don't think he raised his hand above his head once. End thread.
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This Lakers team grosses me out!
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This Lakers team grosses me out!
Me too..all u see or hear is bout Lakers..geez, win some games then talk
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This Lakers team grosses me out!
Me too..all u see or hear is bout Lakers..geez, win some games then talk
I wish Instagram had a way to block anything Lakers/Ball/Kardashian
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Can you imagine where this Celtic team would be if the pick Philly owes us had conveyed last year and we picked up Doncic and Williams? I so wanted Doncic on this team.
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Can you imagine where this Celtic team would be if the pick Philly owes us had conveyed last year and we picked up Doncic and Williams? I so wanted Doncic on this team.
didn't they pick 9th or 10th?
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Can you imagine where this Celtic team would be if the pick Philly owes us had conveyed last year and we picked up Doncic and Williams? I so wanted Doncic on this team.
didn't they pick 9th or 10th?
Yea but more because they played well in second half of the season and didn't tank at all. They were actually 11-27 in january and played above .500 the rest of the season.
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So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.
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Yea wow Milwaukee is destroying GS right now.
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Think this highlights how crucial Draymond is to GSW. He's perhaps their best passer and defender
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So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.
Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.
I don’t see how Kerr doesn’t shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.
Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
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So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.
Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.
I don’t see how Kerr doesn’t shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.
Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
Psh, Steph belongs in the G-League!
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So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.
Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.
I don’t see how Kerr doesn’t shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.
Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
How dare somebody criticize the golden god Coach Stevens?!
I'll tell you what - I'll say ten "Hail Bradleys" before going to bed to make up for it. Will that count as penance for the damage that I have done to your fragile fandom that can't take any criticism of your coach? ;) ::)
(Seriously, though, I'm starting to wonder if y'all formed a Brad Stevens cult the way you so blindly defend him in the face of obvious shortcomings.)
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So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.
Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.
I don’t see how Kerr doesn’t shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.
Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
Psh, Steph belongs in the G-League!
Bemoaning that the NBA doesn't better utilize the G-League for rehab and suggesting that Gordon could benefit from a short stint up there to better get his rhythm and confidence up is now equivalent to saying Gordon "belongs in the G-League"?
Yikes. That's enough Celticsblog Celticsstrong for one night.
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So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.
Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.
I don’t see how Kerr doesn’t shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.
Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
Psh, Steph belongs in the G-League!
Bemoaning that the NBA doesn't better utilize the G-League for rehab and suggesting that Gordon could benefit from a short stint up there to better get his rhythm and confidence up is now equivalent to saying Gordon "belongs in the G-League"?
Yikes. That's enough Celticsblog Celticsstrong for one night.
It was in jest. Take it easy.
The fact of the matter is the G-League still isn’t developed enough to be a legitimate option. Not every NBA team has an affiliate (until next season) and the talent level is too all over the place. Plus, the reinjury risk is too great for the reward of getting it going against considerably lesser talent. Just not worth it as the G-League stands.
If more talent moves into it, and NBA rosters are expanded so that teams can utilise it properly, then it could be. That just isn’t the case as of yet.
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So, yeah, the Bucks are legit. Sans Draymond tonight, mind you, but they're giving it to GS in GS.
Steph was 5-14 while Bledsoe was +30 tonight.
I don’t see how Kerr doesn’t shake things up and bring him off the bench until he cleans that up.
Oh wait, that thinking only takes place on CBS.
Psh, Steph belongs in the G-League!
Bemoaning that the NBA doesn't better utilize the G-League for rehab and suggesting that Gordon could benefit from a short stint up there to better get his rhythm and confidence up is now equivalent to saying Gordon "belongs in the G-League"?
Yikes. That's enough Celticsblog Celticsstrong for one night.
It’s the same, beyond nonsensical.
Obviously, we all know what type of freak injuries can occur on a basketball court. Would any team want a superstar to get hurt “rehabbing” in a G-League game? For what? You think timing and rhythm are anywhere close to an NBA game? Might as well send him to the local Y for some pickup games.
The ONLY way he’s going to get his NBA game back is... in NBA games. Against NBA players.
There’s a reason no team does it for their stars. The risk of them getting hurt is far greater than any benefit they can get playing against far inferior competition.
I feel like so many on here think championships are won in November. Unless some are worried about TOR winning 75 games, there’s no reason to worry so early. These guys will start hitting their open shots at a significantly higher clip then they have.
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Man I honestly can't believe how bad the wizards are. They have to blow that up now.
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Man I honestly can't believe how bad the wizards are. They have to blow that up now.
It's crazy. I like some of their players too (mainly Beal and Porter Jr.). Jeesh
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Embiid with 18 free throws....
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Man I honestly can't believe how bad the wizards are. They have to blow that up now.
Yeah I figured they were a pretty clear top 6 team in the East, but they have been awful. It is still early so they could get it figured out, but they've also had dysfunction for years so maybe it has finally caught up to them.
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Embiid with 18 free throws....
Finished up with 22 and had 23 against the Pistons. Really nice when your C is drawing 10+ FTs per game and shooting them at 80%+.
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Sixers lost to Memphis
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i hate having to root for the lakers >:(
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Lebron James just moved into 4th place on the All Time Turnovers list in NBA History passing Jason Kidd with his 4004th turnover tonight.
Next up is Kobe Bryant with 4010 in 3rd at 2.98 per game
Karl Malone leads with 4524 at 3.07 per game
John Stockton is 2nd with 4248 at 2.82 per game
James leads all players with more than 4000 turnovers at 3.47 per game.
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Lebron James just moved into 4th place on the All Time Turnovers list in NBA History passing Jason Kidd with his 4004th turnover tonight.
Next up is Kobe Bryant with 4010 in 3rd at 2.98 per game
Karl Malone leads with 4524 at 3.07 per game
John Stockton is 2nd with 4248 at 2.82 per game
James leads all players with more than 4000 turnovers at 3.47 per game.
Far out, it really is insane that Stockton nearly has a 4:1 career assist to turnover ratio, and is in the top top two for both.
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atlanta up 3 on lakers 4 min to go
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down by 1 lebron misses both free throws but they get the rebound. lakers up 1
15 seconds to go
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down by 1 lebron misses both free throws but they get the rebound. lakers up 1
15 seconds to go
Wow the Hawks are pathetic. Lakers too. How have they won 7 games, they are just awful at both ends. LeBron looks noticeably slower too.
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down by 1 lebron misses both free throws but they get the rebound. lakers up 1
15 seconds to go
Lebron ranks as only the 18th best free throw shooter percentage wise at the Small Forward position this season , 100th overall.
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/position/small-forwards
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/free-throws/sort/freeThrowPct/count/81
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i hate having to root for the lakers >:(
it s an unnatural act for a Boston fans .
like stepping in front of a bus.
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down by 1 lebron misses both free throws but they get the rebound. lakers up 1
15 seconds to go
Wow the Hawks are pathetic. Lakers too. How have they won 7 games, they are just awful at both ends. LeBron looks noticeably slower too.
Celtics too...
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Toronto coming back down to Earth with two straight losses at home to Milwaukee and Detroit, with Detroit’s win tonight at the buzzer after a Kawhi turnover. Will be a good game on Friday to knock them down a few pegs!
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TOR - while a very good team - has never scared me.
We eventually get Hayward back this season and we'll be fine.
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Sixers lose to the Magic in Butler's debut game. Butler 14 points, 4 rebounds 2 assists, while posting a plus/minus rating of minus 10.
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Bucks about to lose at home to the Grizzlies.
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Bucks about to lose at home to the Grizzlies.
Every single team looks vulnerable
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Jazz getting their ass handed to them by the Mavericks tonight too. Dallas beat them by 50 points!
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Jazz getting their ass handed to them by the Mavericks tonight too. Dallas beat them by 50 points!
9 point fourth quarter. Brutal
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hack a Bron should be a thing...
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LeBron James showing no signs of slowing down as he recorded 44 points and 10 rebounds tonight...
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Luke Walton says that Rajon Rondo fractured his hand and will be out for at least a couple weeks.
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1062952437391093760?s=21
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Luke Walton says that Rajon Rondo fractured his hand and will be out for at least a couple weeks.
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1062952437391093760?s=21
[dang]. Hate the Lakers, but I'll always like Rondo
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LeBron James showing no signs of slowing down as he recorded 44 points and 10 rebounds tonight...
He passed Wilt for 5th most points all-time.
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Lebron James just moved into 3rd place on the All Time Turnovers list in NBA History passing Kobe Bryant with his 4011th turnover tonight.
Karl Malone leads with 4524 at 3.07 per game
John Stockton is 2nd with 4248 at 2.82 per game
James leads all players with more than 4000 turnovers at 3.47 per game
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That Isaac block on Embiid (sending him on his ass) had to be the most satisfying play of the year thus far.
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That Isaac block on Embiid (sending him on his ass) had to be the most satisfying play of the year thus far.
Anything that makes Embiid look like a chump makes me smile
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Seems like the Lakers have been on the West Coast sincevseason started..easy schedule so far
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Back-to-back 30 point games for E’Twaun Moore
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Dallas 118 - 68 Utah
Wow, that is a crazy scoreline.
A 50 point shellacking by Dallas.
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Luke Walton says that Rajon Rondo fractured his hand and will be out for at least a couple weeks.
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1062952437391093760?s=21
[dang]. Hate the Lakers, but I'll always like Rondo
Unfortunately look they are starting to click. better and faster then i expected.
I guess it is all about Lebron but he is getting decent help.
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Dallas 118 - 68 Utah
Wow, that is a crazy scoreline.
A 50 point shellacking by Dallas.
And it was competitive in the first half! Utah got thumped 60-22 in the second half. Makes our offense look good.
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Dallas 118 - 68 Utah
Wow, that is a crazy scoreline.
A 50 point shellacking by Dallas.
And it was competitive in the first half! Utah got thumped 60-22 in the second half. Makes our offense look good.
9 points in the 4th quarter for Utah. Embarrassing.
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Always have said that the Jazz is a top 5 defensive oriented team, and they improved their offense with a shared team's mentality to score by committee, but man oh man... If Ingles, Mitchell, or Rubio isn't dishing the rock or scoring, there isn't many players on that team that can take over. I think that is why they are still so high on Exum still. He has shown flashes, but his health concerns are far too hard to ignore. Burks was also supposed to help alleviate those question marks, but he seems like he has issues too.
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That Isaac block on Embiid (sending him on his ass) had to be the most satisfying play of the year thus far.
We already forgetting about Jaylen Brown posterizing Embiid ;D
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In other news, the Juggernaut Nuggets and Superstar Jamal Murray have lost 4 in a row.
All this after Scalabrine was falling all over himself saying after they beat us they were the second-best team in the West.
Now the Nuggets are getting exposed a bit. We went 1-4 on that road trip due to horrible play, not because of the greatness of our opponents.
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Monte Morris is starting, Jamal Murray coming off the bench tonight
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsFmXbwVAAA_Q5z?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/msinger/status/1063243551775973378?s=21
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Back-to-back 30 point games for E’Twaun Moore
always liked him.
bettervthan Rozier
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Back-to-back 30 point games for E’Twaun Moore
always liked him.
bettervthan Rozier
People say Ainge can't draft, but we got some gems in E'Twaun and Ojeleye.
E'Twaun was a beast, I think we had a huge comeback against Magic/Knicks
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That Isaac block on Embiid (sending him on his ass) had to be the most satisfying play of the year thus far.
We already forgetting about Jaylen Brown posterizing Embiid ;D
Eh, looking at the two plays, it’s pretty clear which was more embarrassing for Embiid.
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Back-to-back 30 point games for E’Twaun Moore
always liked him.
bettervthan Rozier
People say Ainge can't draft, but we got some gems in E'Twaun and Ojeleye.
E'Twaun was a beast, I think we had a huge comeback against Magic/Knicks
he should have kept etwaun. I remember everytime we played him in garbage to me he would make 3s like it was no ones business
I feel like jabari bird is similar. Wonder how that situation ends
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Houston blowing out the Warriors tonight. Maybe the Green-Durant drama really is causing their downfall.
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Back-to-back 30 point games for E’Twaun Moore
always liked him.
bettervthan Rozier
People say Ainge can't draft, but we got some gems in E'Twaun and Ojeleye.
E'Twaun was a beast, I think we had a huge comeback against Magic/Knicks
he should have kept etwaun. I remember everytime we played him in garbage to me he would make 3s like it was no ones business
I feel like jabari bird is similar. Wonder how that situation ends
It's sad, but given how cap space works, you gotta sacrifice an E'Twaun Moore to have space for Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward.
Moore and Smart would be a helluva pair. Very gritty.
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Memphis over Sac by 14 in 4th. win-lose.
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After watching Kyrie tonight, I do recommend switching on to Timberwolves Trail Blazers.
Rose is fun to watch. He definitely reminds me of Kyrie.
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Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19
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Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19
I know MIL beat Golden State recently, but overall it feels like they've cooled down lately.
And GSW has dealt with internal problems lately too so maybe that played a part in their game against Milwaukee.
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Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19
I know MIL beat Golden State recently, but overall it feels like they've cooled down lately.
And GSW has dealt with internal problems lately too so maybe that played a part in their game against Milwaukee.
they have cooled off a bit, but they are still a legit contender. The top of the EC is going to be tough, Toronto Boston Mil Philly Indy
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Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19
I know MIL beat Golden State recently, but overall it feels like they've cooled down lately.
And GSW has dealt with internal problems lately too so maybe that played a part in their game against Milwaukee.
they have cooled off a bit, but they are still a legit contender. The top of the EC is going to be tough, Toronto Boston Mil Philly Indy
Yeah not denying MIL is still a big threat. But it’s also not like Toronto and MIL are running away with the 1-2 seeds in the East now either.
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Jabari has 13 in the first against the Bucks, up 33-19
I know MIL beat Golden State recently, but overall it feels like they've cooled down lately.
And GSW has dealt with internal problems lately too so maybe that played a part in their game against Milwaukee.
they have cooled off a bit, but they are still a legit contender. The top of the EC is going to be tough, Toronto Boston Mil Philly Indy
Yeah not denying MIL is still a big threat. But it’s also not like Toronto and MIL are running away with the 1-2 seeds in the East now either.
I agree, it is probably going to be tight at the top all year. I could honestly see any of us, Toronto, Milwaukee as the top seed once playoffs hit. Lets hope we can get on a roll and be the one.
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Was wondering why Giannis hitting two treys tonight caused such celebration.... until I looked up that he was shooting 7% (SEVEN!) going into this game. With his brilliant shooting display tonight, he’s now up to 12.5%.
I know he can get to the rim often, but surely teams can force him to be a shooter or get the ball out of his hands.
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Was wondering why Giannis hitting two treys tonight caused such celebration.... until I looked up that he was shooting 7% (SEVEN!) going into this game. With his brilliant shooting display tonight, he’s now up to 12.5%.
I know he can get to the rim often, but surely teams can force him to be a shooter or get the ball out of his hands.
Not only is he a freakish blend of athleticism, length, finishing and ball-handling, but he gets away with some egregious travels. Makes him nigh on unstoppable sadly
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I know he can get to the rim often, but surely teams can force him to be a shooter or get the ball out of his hands.
It s not like we just learned about his inability from long range . Yet he remains unstoppable. It is obvious that teams cannot surely force him to be a shooter.
Unless nba coaches plus an army of assistants haven't thought about it yet
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Was wondering why Giannis hitting two treys tonight caused such celebration.... until I looked up that he was shooting 7% (SEVEN!) going into this game. With his brilliant shooting display tonight, he’s now up to 12.5%.
I know he can get to the rim often, but surely teams can force him to be a shooter or get the ball out of his hands.
Not only is he a freakish blend of athleticism, length, finishing and ball-handling, but he gets away with some egregious travels. Makes him nigh on unstoppable sadly
Can't be stopped by anyone...except the brick wall known as Semi.
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Jimmy Butler had a sound debut last night against the Jazz...28 points and 7 assists.
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Jimmy Butler had a sound debut last night against the Jazz...28 points and 7 assists.
That was not his debut, that was his second game as a Sixer.
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Toronto up a casual 40 points on Chicago. 105-65.
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Toronto up a casual 40 points on Chicago. 105-65.
Which, btw, is mostly to be expected since the teams are 12-4 and 4-12.
Still, 40 points. Wowzahs.
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Toronto up a casual 40 points on Chicago. 105-65.
we were up 30 pts on them at some points
Chicago is likely the worst team in the nba
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Jimmy Buckets with a game-winning block and game-winning shot. What a killer.
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I wonder if Kemba realises is talent is completely wasted
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Warriors vs Cavs is a really good one.
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DONCIC IS AMAZING!
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Mavs giving Warriors the business, but GSW still has a chance. Nice exciting game.
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Mavs giving Warriors the business, but GSW still has a chance. Nice exciting game.
Really good game. The Mavs have struck gold.
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DONCIC IS AMAZING!
What a steal for Dallas
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DONCIC IS AMAZING!
What a steal for Dallas
That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!
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DONCIC IS AMAZING!
What a steal for Dallas
That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!
did ATL trade him to Dallas?
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DONCIC IS AMAZING!
What a steal for Dallas
That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!
did ATL trade him to Dallas?
Yes, and they got a pick...
But Doncic is the kind of special player you tank for. Doncic didn't even get taken until the 3rd pick.... That 3rd spot has been very good lately...
...and Dallas already had a highly drafted point guard and still went after Doncic....
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lol ATL
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Kemba with 60. :o
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DONCIC IS AMAZING!
What a steal for Dallas
That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!
did ATL trade him to Dallas?
Yes, and they got a pick...
But Doncic is the kind of special player you tank for. Doncic didn't even get taken until the 3rd pick.... That 3rd spot has been very good lately...
...and Dallas already had a highly drafted point guard and still went after Doncic....
The #3 pick has a good history. Our two, Embiid, Beal, Harden, Horford, MJ, Nique, McHale, Maravich, Nate Thurmond, Loscy, and even Cousy. Boston has benefited from the 3rd pick a lot, sad we couldn't get Doncic though. He has future MVP written all over him.
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Man...I saw about 5 Real Madrid games and at 18 Doncic was easily the best player on the court in all 5 games. It wasn't close. He was magical in a Larry Bird type way. I was hoping and praying that Lakers pick would convey last year and net us Doncic. I could easily see Rozier being moved and Doncic taking Rozier's minutes. How good would this team be going forward with a core of Kyrie, Hayward, Horford, and Smart with Tatum, Brown and Doncic on rookie contracts. Wow.
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Still like Trae Young.
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Still like Trae Young.
I really don't at all. He's been particularly terrible over his last 3. So inefficient, yuck
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DONCIC IS AMAZING!
What a steal for Dallas
That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!
did ATL trade him to Dallas?
Yes, and they got a pick...
But Doncic is the kind of special player you tank for. Doncic didn't even get taken until the 3rd pick.... That 3rd spot has been very good lately...
...and Dallas already had a highly drafted point guard and still went after Doncic....
The #3 pick has a good history. Our two, Embiid, Beal, Harden, Horford, MJ, Nique, McHale, Maravich, Nate Thurmond, Loscy, and even Cousy. Boston has benefited from the 3rd pick a lot, sad we couldn't get Doncic though. He has future MVP written all over him.
I'd trade JB and Rozier for Doncic, send the sac pick to boot but im sure the Mavs will laugh at that proposal...
specially that JB has his head up in his bum right now with his play.
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DONCIC IS AMAZING!
What a steal for Dallas
That's a 19 year old leading his team to a win over the world champs!
did ATL trade him to Dallas?
Yes, and they got a pick...
But Doncic is the kind of special player you tank for. Doncic didn't even get taken until the 3rd pick.... That 3rd spot has been very good lately...
...and Dallas already had a highly drafted point guard and still went after Doncic....
The #3 pick has a good history. Our two, Embiid, Beal, Harden, Horford, MJ, Nique, McHale, Maravich, Nate Thurmond, Loscy, and even Cousy. Boston has benefited from the 3rd pick a lot, sad we couldn't get Doncic though. He has future MVP written all over him.
I'd trade JB and Rozier for Doncic, send the sac pick to boot but im sure the Mavs will laugh at that proposal...
specially that JB has his head up in his bum right now with his play.
I’d do that deal without thinking twice. I rate Doncic higher than I do Tatum. In fact, I rate him higher than any other guy on their rookie deal, including KAT.
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Suns starting Booker, Bridges, Ariza, Warren, Ayton
Sounds familiar :P
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J Randle with 21/14/10 25 minutes in win over spurs, E Moore has been great this year, 24 pts, 11 for 16
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J Randle with 21/14/10 25 minutes in win over spurs, E Moore has been great this year, 24 pts, 11 for 16
Really good players to complement AD. They just have no depth
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Randle has been great. I really like him.
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Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Bradly are a good fit in The Clippers backcourt. The Clippers traded there two best players and look better....
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magic down two to raptors with ball and 44 seconds to go
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This Kings team is good...
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This Kings team is good...
I like the way they play more than the way we play, lol
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This Kings team is good...
I like the way they play more than the way we play, lol
if the Kings and C's continue playing the way they are, there'll be a lot of lamenting over not getting that Laker pick last year.
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Another tough leg injury just now, this time it was Hamidou Diallo.
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Another tough leg injury just now, this time it was Hamidou Diallo.
One of those stomach turning ones?
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Another tough leg injury just now, this time it was Hamidou Diallo.
great news!
https://twitter.com/maddie_m_lee/status/1065493071108796416
Hamidou Diallo news: Any severe lower body injuries (including broken leg, ACL tear, etc.) have been ruled out by Warriors team physicians, according to a Thunder spokesperson. He will be reevaluated tomorrow.
I can hardly believe it
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Guess nobody cared about LeBron James' second homecoming to Cleveland, in a tight win :-X
At least this time the Cavs fans were applauding him, as opposed to the 2010 reception he had as a member of the Miami Heat lol.
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Guess nobody cared about LeBron James' second homecoming to Cleveland, in a tight win :-X
At least this time the Cavs fans were applauding him, as opposed to the 2010 reception he had as a member of the Miami Heat lol.
Imagine Kyrie didn't hit that shot.
There would be peasants with pikes in the arena.
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Who would thought at Thanksgiving Memphis be first overall in the West...and Boston be an 8th seed right now..
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Anyone find it remarkable that the 14th seed in the West (Minnesota) is just 5 games back of FIRST place :o
The Kings are the 10th seed and just 2.5 games back of 1st lol. What a tight conference (minus the Suns)
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Mitchell Robinson of NYK fouled out in 9 minutes. :P
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Anyone see Dre Drummond block Harden 3 or 4 times??
Send it back, Young Fella!!
Dude had 3 steals and 5 blocks in the HOU game.
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Cavaliers up 91-78 on Houston right now. Ummm.... :o
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Phoenix the only team in the WC behind Houston in the standings ;D
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Strange times. Do they blow it up?
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Strange times. Do they blow it up?
its going to happen. .....CP3 joins LeWhiner ......its their backup plan .....good lord 8)......that would be the most dreadful pair of cry babies ever on same team . Difficult ball to watch ....ugh
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Wow, Leonard is beasting the warriors so far. Pop and Spurs really blew it ...he is a warrior slaying the warriors....We will need it all to come together before facing them in conference finals...
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Great Toronto vs GS game at the half right now, 67-58 Raps up.
Kawhi has 22 on 9-12 shooting.
Durant has 20 with 4 boards and 3 dimes.
Will either hit 40? Both? 50??
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Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?
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Our old friend Jerebko a big part of this GS comeback!
I miss JJ. He'd still be great off the bench for us.
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Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?
This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.
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I don't like Durant but wow, is he some kind of good.
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Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?
This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.
The Spurs clearly preferred proven talent which we really didn't have to offer. It would have taken a lot to beat the Derozen offer.
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Wow, how many 50 point games will their be this year?
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Iggy's age is showing.
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The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.
I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.
I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.
I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.
Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.
Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.
I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
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Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?
This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.
Or if they win the championship.
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Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?
This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.
Or if they win the championship.
So the pitchforks are on standby in each of your garages then?
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The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.
I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.
I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.
I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.
Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.
Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.
I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
I agree. They'll probably get the #1 seed but I don't think they have another level. I think it would be more about us and if we can take it to another level.
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Our old friend Jerebko a big part of this GS comeback!
I miss JJ. He'd still be great off the bench for us.
He has been solid and very consistent for them, esp on the boards, for about 20 mpg lately.
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My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.
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My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.
They got plenty and besides Siakim isn't scoring 26 points often.
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Clips literally have one offense - keep handoffs going until mismatch and go to mismatch. Great to watch.
I feel like we can beat them in 7 pretty easily though.
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Our old friend Jerebko a big part of this GS comeback!
I miss JJ. He'd still be great off the bench for us.
He has been solid and very consistent for them, esp on the boards, for about 20 mpg lately.
I always loved Jerebko. He's one guy who you could keep glued on the bench and won't complain yet will hustle everytime you put him on. No problems about playing time, number of shots nor lazy D.
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The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.
I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.
I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.
I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.
Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.
Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.
I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
I agree. They'll probably get the #1 seed but I don't think they have another level. I think it would be more about us and if we can take it to another level.
Agreed too. Toronto should finish the #1 seed but I'd rank them 4th in the East behind Boston, Philly and Milwaukee. I cannot see them making the Finals. They are built for the regular season more than the playoffs. Too limited and predictable on offense. Better teams will be able to get at them defensively in a playoff series.
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My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.
They got plenty and besides Siakim isn't scoring 26 points often.
His scoring isn't really what I'm talking about
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My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.
They got plenty and besides Siakim isn't scoring 26 points often.
His scoring isn't really what I'm talking about
Haven't seen Siakam play.. which aspects of his game?
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My main thought while watching raps warriors was that the Celts really need somebody who brings what Siakam brings.
They got plenty and besides Siakim isn't scoring 26 points often.
His scoring isn't really what I'm talking about
Haven't seen Siakam play.. which aspects of his game?
You know how James Johnson was this athletic tweener forward that had the potential to be a high-level two way player, but his inconsistent effort always held him back?
Siakim's best quality is that he plays hard, but he has everything else James Johnson has.
He's no superstar or all-star, but he has the potential to be a really good player.
However, the Celtics best strategy is to bait him into trying to be a scorer/creator. He is not that good.
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Wonder what Danny would have been willing to offer for Kawhi in retrospect?
This is a conversation we should revisit if Kawhi resigns in Toronto.
Or if they win the championship.
So the pitchforks are on standby in each of your garages then?
No, because I think as long as his uncle is handling things for him that playing in LA will take priority over winning. I think Kawhi will be a Clipper next year.
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He's no superstar or all-star, but he has the potential to be a really good player.
However, the Celtics best strategy is to bait him into trying to be a scorer/creator. He is not that good.
Again I want to point out that I was not suggesting that Siakam is really great or an awesome scorer or something.
He brings things to the table the Celts lack. Energy, effort, edge, an tendency to get inside. A guy who combines some of the things Smart does with many of the things Baynes does.
Smart used to bring more of that, but I think it's true that he doesn't have quite as much of an edge now that he's paid.
Generally, the Celts need more lineups that feature both talented scorers and guys who have simple, straightforward role that they perform with gusto.
Even on the Celts bench, most of those guys try to make an impact on the game by hitting shots. Rozier, Smart, Morris. The Celts need more scrap.
That's ironic because it used to be people talked about the Celts as a gimmick team that was nothing but scrap.
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Our old friend Jerebko a big part of this GS comeback!
I miss JJ. He'd still be great off the bench for us.
He has been solid and very consistent for them, esp on the boards, for about 20 mpg lately.
I always loved Jerebko. He's one guy who you could keep glued on the bench and won't complain yet will hustle everytime you put him on. No problems about playing time, number of shots nor lazy D.
Sound like you are describing Theis!
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The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.
I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.
I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.
I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.
Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.
Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.
I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
I agree. They'll probably get the #1 seed but I don't think they have another level. I think it would be more about us and if we can take it to another level.
Agreed too. Toronto should finish the #1 seed but I'd rank them 4th in the East behind Boston, Philly and Milwaukee. I cannot see them making the Finals. They are built for the regular season more than the playoffs. Too limited and predictable on offense. Better teams will be able to get at them defensively in a playoff series.
I don't really understand how you could think this when Toronto has the best player by far in every series except maybe the Bucks? But the Bucks have never even made it past the first round in fact Toronto beat them with DeRozan.
Do you honestly believe if the Celtics played the Raptors last year in the second round they would have won? Celtics don't have a SUPERSTAR talent LeBron was kryptonite to that team and now he's gone he's the one who's been elimating them every year lol you make it sound like it's the Celtics or the Bucks or philly.
Toronto was always the better team they just never had a closer and now they got one of the best closers in the game Kawhi they are absolutely right now the best team in the East and should make the finals.
The way the Celtics are right now it's a first round 7 games then most likely 2nd round exit assuming they make the playoffs because 20+ games and .500 is not a championship team this ain't Cleveland last year we don't have LeBron the situation is bad.
Respect to Masai building an amazing team
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It's possible that Kawhi carries them to the Finals by closing a bunch of games with contested two pointers, but that doesn't seem especially likely to me.
The Raptors are a well oiled machine. They are much, much better than I expected them to be with a new coach and a major new addition on offense. They're impressive and coordinated on defense.
The Celtics don't inspire a lot of confidence in me right now, but I would tend to agree that the Raps aren't especially scary as a playoff team, even if they're better than the Celts. Right now it doesn't look very hard to be better than the Celts.
The Sixers look like the team to beat in the conference to me come playoff time, given the addition of Butler.
Simmons - Redick - Butler - Embiid is a lot of firepower.
A polished and motivated Celtics team could in theory match that, but the Celts are a lot less fiery and a lot less polished than I expected them to be, at least so far.
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The Warriors just took Toronto into overtime in Toronto without three starters and with Klay Thompson missing three wide open 3s late in the game.
I know Toronto is winning games right now, but I'm not sure they are as good as many think they are.
I'm not especially concerned about Kyle Lowry, especially with his inconsistency.
I don't think Leonard is quite as good as people make him seem. Late in this game, he really didn't do much to help his team get buckets when they needed it. Durant kinda' shut up down.
Ibaka and Siakim cannot create for themselves at all.
Danny Green is a big shot maker, but he has two moves: 1) Shoot the three, or 2) drive and look to pass.
I honestly think they are as good now as they will be in the playoffs.
I agree. They'll probably get the #1 seed but I don't think they have another level. I think it would be more about us and if we can take it to another level.
Agreed too. Toronto should finish the #1 seed but I'd rank them 4th in the East behind Boston, Philly and Milwaukee. I cannot see them making the Finals. They are built for the regular season more than the playoffs. Too limited and predictable on offense. Better teams will be able to get at them defensively in a playoff series.
I don't really understand how you could think this when Toronto has the best player by far in every series except maybe the Bucks? But the Bucks have never even made it past the first round in fact Toronto beat them with DeRozan.
Do you honestly believe if the Celtics played the Raptors last year in the second round they would have won? Celtics don't have a SUPERSTAR talent LeBron was kryptonite to that team and now he's gone he's the one who's been elimating them every year lol you make it sound like it's the Celtics or the Bucks or philly.
Toronto was always the better team they just never had a closer and now they got one of the best closers in the game Kawhi they are absolutely right now the best team in the East and should make the finals.
The way the Celtics are right now it's a first round 7 games then most likely 2nd round exit assuming they make the playoffs because 20+ games and .500 is not a championship team this ain't Cleveland last year we don't have LeBron the situation is bad.
Respect to Masai building an amazing team
They say this year after year and Raptors disappoint, season still young and the Celtics still got issues to work out but they should work them out.
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He's no superstar or all-star, but he has the potential to be a really good player.
However, the Celtics best strategy is to bait him into trying to be a scorer/creator. He is not that good.
Again I want to point out that I was not suggesting that Siakam is really great or an awesome scorer or something.
He brings things to the table the Celts lack. Energy, effort, edge, an tendency to get inside. A guy who combines some of the things Smart does with many of the things Baynes does.
Smart used to bring more of that, but I think it's true that he doesn't have quite as much of an edge now that he's paid.
Generally, the Celts need more lineups that feature both talented scorers and guys who have simple, straightforward role that they perform with gusto.
Even on the Celts bench, most of those guys try to make an impact on the game by hitting shots. Rozier, Smart, Morris. The Celts need more scrap.
That's ironic because it used to be people talked about the Celts as a gimmick team that was nothing but scrap.
And they do scrap, let's not try to prop up another team's player as some missing piece when the Celtics do have those guys.
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And they do scrap, let's not try to prop up another team's player as some missing piece when the Celtics do have those guys.
I don't see that so much with this year's team.
The Celts don't have enough of the type of glue guys that make 50/50 plays and keep things running smoothly. Maybe if Hayward were healthy he would provide a lot of that presence, but he's not. Horford looking more and more his age doesn't help either.
I like Baynes a lot, and Semi provides some of what I'm talking about, but they have fairly matchup specific roles, so they can't provide that in every game.
Smart doesn't seem to do that stuff as much anymore, while Rozier and Mook seem primarily concerned about putting up numbers to earn their next contract (in Mook's case he's shooting super well so it's working out).
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Knicks beat Bucks in OT
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Knicks beat Bucks in OT
Like I said, this has been a WEIRD NBA season so far, kind of boring too but maybe it's because it's still early December (and season started earlier than usual)?
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And they do scrap, let's not try to prop up another team's player as some missing piece when the Celtics do have those guys.
I don't see that so much with this year's team.
The Celts don't have enough of the type of glue guys that make 50/50 plays and keep things running smoothly. Maybe if Hayward were healthy he would provide a lot of that presence, but he's not. Horford looking more and more his age doesn't help either.
I like Baynes a lot, and Semi provides some of what I'm talking about, but they have fairly matchup specific roles, so they can't provide that in every game.
Smart doesn't seem to do that stuff as much anymore, while Rozier and Mook seem primarily concerned about putting up numbers to earn their next contract (in Mook's case he's shooting super well so it's working out).
It’s a slow start, they’re a different team from last year. I think the team is just trying to figure out their role.
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Play of the year so far.
Dang... wrong thread.
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Pistons throttled Warriors, maybe the rift is real.
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Philly is starting to look good, Bucks have come down to earth a little...
Does anyone still believe Kawhi is a system player lol dam man I bet 29 owners around the NBA are very upset because their GM's didn't trade for Kawhi when his price was not that high at all.
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Philly is starting to look good, Bucks have come down to earth a little...
Does anyone still believe Kawhi is a system player lol dam man I bet 29 owners around the NBA are very upset because their GM's didn't trade for Kawhi when his price was not that high at all.
I wouldn’t say the asking price was super low, they still got an all-star back.
Few teams were willing to reach the Spurs price based on his contract and demands.
As for whether it was worth it for the Raptors, it’s way too early to tell. There’s just as good a chance they get eliminated in the second round and he bolts as they make the Finals.
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Philly is starting to look good, Bucks have come down to earth a little...
Does anyone still believe Kawhi is a system player lol dam man I bet 29 owners around the NBA are very upset because their GM's didn't trade for Kawhi when his price was not that high at all.
I wouldn’t say the asking price was super low, they still got an all-star back.
Few teams were willing to reach the Spurs price based on his contract and demands.
As for whether it was worth it for the Raptors, it’s way too early to tell. There’s just as good a chance they get eliminated in the second round and he bolts as they make the Finals.
I'd say it was worth it even if Kahwi leaves. Toronto is in a win now mode and Kahwi is a significant upgrade over DeRozan. All they lost was the last 2 years of Derozan's contract which might actually be a good thing if they want to go in rebuild mode.
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Philly is starting to look good, Bucks have come down to earth a little...
Does anyone still believe Kawhi is a system player lol dam man I bet 29 owners around the NBA are very upset because their GM's didn't trade for Kawhi when his price was not that high at all.
I wouldn’t say the asking price was super low, they still got an all-star back.
Few teams were willing to reach the Spurs price based on his contract and demands.
As for whether it was worth it for the Raptors, it’s way too early to tell. There’s just as good a chance they get eliminated in the second round and he bolts as they make the Finals.
I believe when a talent like Kawhi becomes available through trade which almost never happens you do what ever it takes to get him and worry about him leaving later. I've been watching Toronto his first 10 games Kawhi looked a little timid and wasn't sure what the Raptors were about, but now it looks like he's starting to believe and playing at the highest level at this point I'm 75% sure Toronto wins the East this year and if Kawhi re-signs then Masai is the best GM but I'm also in the belief that the Spurs wanted him to go to Toronto and wern't willing to create another "Super Team" in the league.
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Suns down 33 just 16 minutes into the game.
That’s a special type of pathetic.
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Suns down 33 just 16 minutes into the game.
That’s a special type of pathetic.
And to the Kings no less! That's inexcusable. Wall deserves to be exiled to the Suns/
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I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now.
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I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now.
I'm really jonesing for some Celtics basketball... What a long time between games!
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I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now.
Embiid is not having a very good game. He keeps trying to bump into people to get to the line but the Raptors keep moving out of the way.
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I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now.
Pretty entertaining game. Kawhi is truly incredible.
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I rarely watch non-Celtics games, but Philly-Raptors should be a good game, specially since we are all probably starving for some basketball by now.
Pretty entertaining game. Kawhi is truly incredible.
Butler is a frustrating player to root for. He's very emotional....
Kawhi is incredible!
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Valanciunas is schooling Embiid!
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Toronto is giving Philly the business.
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Toronto is giving Philly the business.
Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.
Sixers should trade Fultz while they can still get something for him. They need help.
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Toronto is giving Philly the business.
Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.
Embiid is mentally weak when things don't go his way....
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OMG Kawhi with the JAM!
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Toronto is giving Philly the business.
Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.
Sixers should trade Fultz while they can still get something for him. They need help.
WOW Toronto is for real. I did not appreciate it when some had them #1 in the East before the season. Now I see exactly why. They are the team to beat in the East.
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Toronto is giving Philly the business.
Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.
Embiid is mentally weak when things don't go his way....
That whole roster lacks vet leadership. Butler doesn't help in that department either
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Toronto is giving Philly the business.
Raptors and the Bucks are both clearly better than the Sixers. I can see the Celtics also having little trouble with the Butler version of the Sixers. Its the Bucks that worry me the most, followed by the Raptors.
Embiid is mentally weak when things don't go his way....
That whole roster lacks vet leadership. Butler doesn't help in that department either
Leonard is so much better than Butler that it's not funny...
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The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isn’t even in the same league.
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The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isn’t even in the same league.
Poor Kyrie...... :(
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The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isn’t even in the same league.
Poor Kyrie...... :(
Could be Kyrie, could be butler, could be griffin or walker (they are not glamorous but are both playing incredible this season)
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No one can cry to the refs like LeBron>>>>
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The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isn’t even in the same league.
Poor Kyrie...... :(
Could be Kyrie, could be butler, could be griffin or walker (they are not glamorous but are both playing incredible this season)
So they are glamorous then? Whew! I was about to declare the Celtics non contenders because they don’t have a transcedent star. ;)
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Lakers look really good. Dang it.
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Warriors outlasted the Cavs in NBA Finals rematch but things seem different these days ??? Curry with another monster performance.
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Lakers look really good. Dang it.
I mean, LeBron is really good.
The rest of that team is ... meh. Nobody I'd really want starting except maybe Josh Hart.
The Spurs make me sad.
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The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isn’t even in the same league.
Those three guys are amazing. I would say, however, that none of those guys feels unstoppable to me in a playoff series, and they're all fairly predictable in crunch time.
None of them is LeBron.
Now, that's not to say that the Celts will be good enough when the time comes to actually beat them ....
But I like our guy to go toe to toe with those guys in terms of taking / making big shots in close fourth quarters.
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The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isn’t even in the same league.
Until Embiid matches up with Baynes.
Then he wakes up in sweat.
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The Lakers structured their salary cap to make sure they would have space next summer for a maximum-salaried player—whether he comes via free agency or trade. League sources say that when James became convinced Irving couldn’t be persuaded to stay in Cleveland, he suggested to the Cavs front office that it deal Irving to the Blazers for All-Star point guard Damian Lillard. The Cavs never called the Blazers, but James’ interest has led to speculation about the Lakers trading for Lillard. – via Bleacher Report
It amazing how much media BS LeBron's camp is emitting.
As per usual practice, it is timed after most of it is forgotten by the casual fans.
I remember that Kyrie was on the table for about a month, they have been searching for the best offers patiently and the bit where "The Cavs never called the Blazers" sounds just about impossible to me.
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The top 3 players in the east right now are probably Leonard, Giannis and embiid in that order. Whoever is next best isn’t even in the same league.
Until Embiid matches up with Baynes.
Then he wakes up in sweat.
Embiid is absolutely proving to be among the elite players in the league but I still can't put him on the same level as Leonard or Giannis. This is mostly due to the position he plays and his lack of efficiency.
There are ways to neutralize Embiid's style of play in crunch time, which the Celtics have successfully done with Horford. Leonard and Giannis scare me a lot of more in a 7 game series.
On a side note, Embiid deserves some credit for completely outplaying Anthony Davis in their past two meetings. The eye test and statistics support Davis as the far better player. Kudos to Embiid for taking on the match-up as a personal challenge.
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Rather than starting a new thread, I thought I put my trade idea here. I was working on a way to get Bradley Beal on the Thunder for funsies. I don't think there is any way the Thunder would give up Adams, but it didn't seem like the Wizards would want Schroeder, Roberson, and Grant. The Thunder have an almost 11 million dollar exception to use to take on a bad contract to make a deal work. I think the trade would have to include a third team. Here's what I came up with:
Thunder trade: Diallo, Schroeder, Roberson, 8.6 million trade exemption, 2022 1st
Thunder receive: Beal, Morris
This gives the Thunder a perfect complimentary piece to Westbrook, Adams, and George and makes them contenders for a championship this year. Morris is also a good get on an expiring contract that can start for them.
Pelicans trade: Hill, Randle
Pelicans receive: Schroeder, Roberson
Pelicans continue to search for pieces to put around Anthony Davis. This isn't a flashy move, but it is low cost. Flipping Randle and Hill into two players that could actually share the court in crunch time with Davis, Mirotic, and Holliday is helpful. Roberson's lack of shooting is covered up by Mirotic and Davis' shooting, but it gives the Pelicans the defensive stopper on the wing they've always needed. Schroeder is a secondary ball-handler that excels in the pick-and-roll (hello Anthony Davis).
Wizards trade: Beal, Morris
Wizards receive: Hill, Randle, Diallo, 8.6 million trade exemption, Thunder's 2022 1st
The first benefit to this deal is that it gets the Wizards out of the luxury tax (they were 11 million into the luxury tax!!!). Randle gives the Wizards a productive inside player, which they have lacked severely this year. He brings the energy that could change the culture a bit. Hill is a rotation player with only one year left on his contract after this one. Diallo is a good prospect that could give you leverage in negotiations with Oubre, or let you move on completely from Oubre's inconsistent play. The Thunder's 2022 draft pick might actually be really good depending on how Westbrook's game ages.
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The Suns just stink.
Why isn't Ayton starting?
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Refs working in Houston's favor early in this one. That first call against him was garbage, the second one was a flop by Harden.
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Suns coach got those wild eyes ....might become unhinged ...LOL
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these Houston utah games are gonna be good ones next few seasons
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Gobert ejected for slamming something off scorers table
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Refs working in Houston's favor early in this one. That first call against him was garbage, the second one was a flop by Harden.
But unfortunately Houston stinks....
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Houston have some serious problems now.
They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.
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Houston have some serious problems now.
They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.
Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good
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Gobert ejected for slamming something off scorers table
in 2:47 LOL
reminds me of when Rasheed was thrown out after 85 seconds :o
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Houston have some serious problems now.
They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.
Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good
I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.
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Houston have some serious problems now.
They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.
Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good
I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.
I think CP3 is getting frustrated having to watch Harden so much, and now that they are going through a hard spell he is doubly disengaged.
Houston are taking the most 3's in the league, and are shooting at a low clip (23rd in the league).
Anderson not being there is killing them. They need another one shooter at least.
Not sure which shooters are available at the moment though.
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Suns have scored 9 points in the first quarter of consecutive games
:o :-[ :'(
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Houston have some serious problems now.
They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.
Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good
I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.
I think CP3 is getting frustrated having to watch Harden so much, and now that they are going through a hard spell he is doubly disengaged.
Houston are taking the most 3's in the league, and are shooting at a low clip (23rd in the league).
Anderson not being there is killing them. They need another one shooter at least.
Not sure which shooters are available at the moment though.
Houston desperately misses the contributions they got from Ariza and LRMAM. It's particularly glaring on the defensive side of the ball. Neither were 'lights out' three point shooters, but both were capable, and Ariza consistently took a high volume of threes and maintained a solid percentage. Ariza was also a sort of 'iron man', hardly ever missing a game and typically being in the top 5 in the league in minutes played.
Houston probably made a mistake in letting them go, although lux tax concerns did play a part.
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Houston have some serious problems now.
They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.
Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good
I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.
I think CP3 is getting frustrated having to watch Harden so much, and now that they are going through a hard spell he is doubly disengaged.
Houston are taking the most 3's in the league, and are shooting at a low clip (23rd in the league).
Anderson not being there is killing them. They need another one shooter at least.
Not sure which shooters are available at the moment though.
Houston desperately misses the contributions they got from Ariza and LRMAM. It's particularly glaring on the defensive side of the ball. Neither were 'lights out' three point shooters, but both were capable, and Ariza consistently took a high volume of threes and maintained a solid percentage. Ariza was also a sort of 'iron man', hardly ever missing a game and typically being in the top 5 in the league in minutes played.
Houston probably made a mistake in letting them go, although lux tax concerns did play a part.
can houston resign him if he does a buyout? Seeing him in Phoenix is one of this year's strangest sights to behold...
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Houston have some serious problems now.
They need to swing a pretty drastic trade.
Short of buyouts what they can do? Also Paul is not looking good
I thought this was how Paul was going to look last year but he had a crazy good year and defied what I thought would be the start of fast slide. He some how pulled out a truly great year. It was a contract year so maybe that had something to do with it. Contract years can be deceiving. Small guards like Chris Paul tend to be on there way down in there early 30's and Paul is now 33.
I think CP3 is getting frustrated having to watch Harden so much, and now that they are going through a hard spell he is doubly disengaged.
Houston are taking the most 3's in the league, and are shooting at a low clip (23rd in the league).
Anderson not being there is killing them. They need another one shooter at least.
Not sure which shooters are available at the moment though.
Houston desperately misses the contributions they got from Ariza and LRMAM. It's particularly glaring on the defensive side of the ball. Neither were 'lights out' three point shooters, but both were capable, and Ariza consistently took a high volume of threes and maintained a solid percentage. Ariza was also a sort of 'iron man', hardly ever missing a game and typically being in the top 5 in the league in minutes played.
Houston probably made a mistake in letting them go, although lux tax concerns did play a part.
can houston resign him if he does a buyout? Seeing him in Phoenix is one of this year's strangest sights to behold...
He was a free agent so they should be able to but he'll draw a lot of interest.
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Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half
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Nets just beat Raptors. Sweet.
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nets beat raptors in OT
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Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half
Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him. If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.
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Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half
Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him. If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.
Yup. I feared this would happen when he signed with the Lakers. His talent and inspiring his roster. And the space to sign another max contract player.
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Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half
Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him. If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.
Yup. I feared this would happen when he signed with the Lakers. His talent and inspiring his roster. And the space to sign another max contract player.
How great though to imagine Celtics vs Lakers, Kyrie vs Lebron in a few finals?! Would be epic!!
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Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half
Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him. If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.
Yup. I feared this would happen when he signed with the Lakers. His talent and inspiring his roster. And the space to sign another max contract player.
How great though to imagine Celtics vs Lakers, Kyrie vs Lebron in a few finals?! Would be epic!!
I want some payback for 2010. And got to build spaces away from their championship counts.
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Millsap broken toe
Another injury plagued season
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Wow, Lebron with 24, 7 and 8 ....at the half
Pains me deeply to say, but Lebron has transformed the Lakers who have been in stuck in a rut since Kobe retired. He is averaging more then his career average in points and rebounds and is inspiring those around him. If they sign another max like Durant or Leonard or trade for Davis, they are on the cusp of finals trips. He truly is a force of nature.
Yup. I feared this would happen when he signed with the Lakers. His talent and inspiring his roster. And the space to sign another max contract player.
How great though to imagine Celtics vs Lakers, Kyrie vs Lebron in a few finals?! Would be epic!!
imagine how many people would watch it. So many storylines too. Historic Lakers vs Celtics, kyrie vs lebron, lebron vs Celtics playoff history, brown vs Ingram (draft position), Tatum vs ball (draft position),
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Wow....
The Western conference is a frenetic conference to be in.. Only 3.5 games separate the 4th seed from the 14th seed.
A 2 or even 3 game slump and you'd be looking out of the playoff race... Its still early but I do not really expect the separation to expand as teams are all as competitive with each other.. Even the Warriors are lookin vulnerable in the regular season at least.
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Wow....
The Western conference is a frenetic conference to be in.. Only 3.5 games separate the 4th seed from the 14th seed.
A 2 or even 3 game slump and you'd be looking out of the playoff race... Its still early but I do not really expect the separation to expand as teams are all as competitive with each other.. Even the Warriors are lookin vulnerable in the regular season at least.
TP. This might be unique. A conference where 13-14 teams have a legit chance to make the playoffs. I love it.
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Wow....
The Western conference is a frenetic conference to be in.. Only 3.5 games separate the 4th seed from the 14th seed.
A 2 or even 3 game slump and you'd be looking out of the playoff race... Its still early but I do not really expect the separation to expand as teams are all as competitive with each other.. Even the Warriors are lookin vulnerable in the regular season at least.
TP. This might be unique. A conference where 13-14 teams have a legit chance to make the playoffs. I love it.
While not as close, the east is pretty lumped together as well. Celtics are 1 in the loss column out of 2nd place.
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Wow....
The Western conference is a frenetic conference to be in.. Only 3.5 games separate the 4th seed from the 14th seed.
A 2 or even 3 game slump and you'd be looking out of the playoff race... Its still early but I do not really expect the separation to expand as teams are all as competitive with each other.. Even the Warriors are lookin vulnerable in the regular season at least.
TP. This might be unique. A conference where 13-14 teams have a legit chance to make the playoffs. I love it.
While not as close, the east is pretty lumped together as well. Celtics are 1 in the loss column out of 2nd place.
Well in the East there are already a bunch of teams (quite) certain to make the playoffs (Toronto, Boston, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Indiana) and also who aren't (Atlanta, Cleveland, Chicago, Brooklyn, New York). It's basically a competition for three places between Detroit, Charlotte, Washington, Orlando and Miami.
It's hard to predict which teams fail to make the playoffs in the West. My prediction would be that Phoenix ( ;D), Sacramento, Dallas, Minnesota, Houston, San Antonio and Memphis don't make it. But I could easily be wrong about 4 teams or so.
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Millsap broken toe
Another injury plagued season
Gary Harris (hip) out 3-4 weeks now
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Derrick Rose is still a miracle. To play this well with those rotten knees of his... It's something else man.
18 points
3 rebounds
9 assists
3 steals
1 block
Game still going but that aint bad. Especially with only 2 turnovers.
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SAC and MEM and LAC lost
2/3
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As of today, per bball-ref, the top 3 teams in the league in point differential are all in the East: the Bucks (+9.4), the Raptors (+7.9), and the Celtics (+7.4). The Thunder are 4th (+6.6), followed by the Nuggets (+6.4), and the Warriors sit in 6th place (+5.8 ) as they've struggled with injuries.
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Anthony Davis apparently suffered an injury tonight against Detroit. Sounds to be a minor right hip injury but is questionable for tomorrow.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.
TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.
TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.
I’m not so sure TOR is the team to beat. I’m not sure any team has emerged above the rest.
Toronto is our biggest threat though. But still, I’d favor our elite talent over theirs. They have the best player but we may have the next 4. By season end, Tatum could.should be better than Lowry.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.
TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.
I’m not so sure TOR is the team to beat. I’m not sure any team has emerged above the rest.
Toronto is our biggest threat though. But still, I’d favor our elite talent over theirs. They have the best player but we may have the next 4. By season end, Tatum could.should be better than Lowry.
We've already beaten the Raptors this season when we were far from our best. The Bucks however I am still worried about. We need to see how we match up against them this season.
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I think Boston has the best team in the East by far. They had a rough early schedule(a 5 game West Coast swing, 6 back to backs, 2 series of 4 games in 6 nights, 15 games on the road in the first 25 games, the 4th hardest strength of schedule) and have overcome some nagging injuries, fitting in two players, one 100% ready, one not.
And yet the Celtics are 4 games in the loss column out of first place and are now playing some of the best ball in the league
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I think Boston has the best team in the East by far. They had a rough early schedule(a 5 game West Coast swing, 6 back to backs, 2 series of 4 games in 6 nights, 15 games on the road in the first 25 games, the 4th hardest strength of schedule) and have overcome some nagging injuries, fitting in two players, one 100% ready, one not.
And yet the Celtics are 4 games in the loss column out of first place and are now playing some of the best ball in the league
Ugh, can we just go back in time and sticky this to EVERY sky is falling thread. TP.
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I think Boston has the best team in the East by far. They had a rough early schedule(a 5 game West Coast swing, 6 back to backs, 2 series of 4 games in 6 nights, 15 games on the road in the first 25 games, the 4th hardest strength of schedule) and have overcome some nagging injuries, fitting in two players, one 100% ready, one not.
And yet the Celtics are 4 games in the loss column out of first place and are now playing some of the best ball in the league
Make it 3 in the loss column!
And we haven’t trailed in the second half of the last five games. Great to see us get off to great starts and push the lead.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.
TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.
I’m not so sure TOR is the team to beat. I’m not sure any team has emerged above the rest.
Toronto is our biggest threat though. But still, I’d favor our elite talent over theirs. They have the best player but we may have the next 4. By season end, Tatum could.should be better than Lowry.
We've already beaten the Raptors this season when we were far from our best. The Bucks however I am still worried about. We need to see how we match up against them this season.
Honestly, I don’t see what matchup we don’t have an answer for. We are so versatile and have so many options that in a long series I trust Brad to negate whatever perceived advantage they could have (which is only Giannis, who we know how to neutralize). We beat them without our two best players (and Mr. +50) last season. And they lost Parker who hurt us in a couple games. Lopez and Hill aren’t going to close the gap.
Regular season is one thing, any team can beat any team. But in a series, I don’t see a tougher team for us in the East than Toronto.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
I think we've got better overall depth than MIL so we're above them.
TOR is still the team to beat in the East though. They've got great depth too.
I’m not so sure TOR is the team to beat. I’m not sure any team has emerged above the rest.
Toronto is our biggest threat though. But still, I’d favor our elite talent over theirs. They have the best player but we may have the next 4. By season end, Tatum could.should be better than Lowry.
We've already beaten the Raptors this season when we were far from our best. The Bucks however I am still worried about. We need to see how we match up against them this season.
Apparently Baynes and Ojeley are the ultimate Giannis killers
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Apparently Baynes and Ojeley are the ultimate Giannis killers
Actually they are not but he can't beat the Celtics all by himself
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Apparently Baynes and Ojeley are the ultimate Giannis killers
Actually they are not but he can't beat the Celtics all by himself
I'm very interested to see how Brad handles the rotation against the Bucks later this month. Semi got the start in the previous game, but the team wasn't completely healthy. I expect Semi to get a minimum of 15 MPG. Nobody on the Celtics has a better combination of strength and lateral quickness in a match-up against Giannis. Giannis loves to establish downhill momentum from the perimeter. Semi does a solid job of making every drive difficult.
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As of today, per bball-ref, the top 3 teams in the league in point differential are all in the East: the Bucks (+9.4), the Raptors (+7.9), and the Celtics (+7.4). The Thunder are 4th (+6.6), followed by the Nuggets (+6.4), and the Warriors sit in 6th place (+5.8 ) as they've struggled with injuries.
You just named the teams who (imo) have a (outside) chance to win the championship. TP. My order of favorites:
1. Warriors
2. Raptors
3. Celtics
4. Bucks
5. Thunder
6. Nuggets
Furthermore I would only mention the Rockets if they can turn it around (right now they play terrible) or the Lakers if they make a massive trade.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
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Stinks griffin, Johnson and smith are out tonight. These 76ers pistons games have been entertaining with the teams in the first few matchups. Griffin scored something like 50 in a pistons win the first game. Then the 76ers returned the favor with embiid out. Our game is missing a lot of star power tonight too
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
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No wall tonight. Wonder how the wizards will look without him. I am still surprised they have not blown that team up yet
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.
Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
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The Bulls stink.
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Lonzo with a terrible blown open layup!
It's going to be a highlight....
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.
Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him. I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's. I mean that seriously. He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF. I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him. So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.
Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him. I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's. I mean that seriously. He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF. I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him. So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
McHale.
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The Lakers have missed a half dozen layups early...
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.
Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him. I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's. I mean that seriously. He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF. I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him. So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
McHale.
Not sure he really had the speed, even before the foot problems, but he certainly would have been better than most.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.
Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him. I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's. I mean that seriously. He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF. I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him. So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
the paint would have been packed more back then since the 3 was not the primary offensive threat that it is today so less spacing results in more defenders around to help. Bucks had Bob Lanier at center back then - do you think they'd be pulling him out from around the basket for Giannis? not likely.
there were no players driving to the lane from the 3 point line like Giannis does simply because most of the players were around the lane/basket. as a SF in that time, he'd also have to have a better shot than he does currently. he also wouldn't be getting the superstar treatment that didn't really come along until after Bird and Magic retired and the league had to promote Jordan as its primary star
he'd still be something to see in that timeframe but I don't think he'd be dominant.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.
Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him. I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's. I mean that seriously. He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF. I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him. So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
McHale.
Not sure he really had the speed, even before the foot problems, but he certainly would have been better than most.
Before McHale played on those broken feet he could guard almost anyone. He had to guard anyone Bird couldn't. Great defender. All-Defensive First Team (1986, '87, '88) All- Defensive Second Team (1983, '89, '90)
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.
Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him. I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's. I mean that seriously. He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF. I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him. So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
You really think McHale couldn't guard him? Pippen? Oakley? Moncrief? I completely disagree with you. People could guard Magic well. And with the non-emphasis on three pointers and pace and space, the paint would have been very crowded.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.
Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him. I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's. I mean that seriously. He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF. I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him. So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
You really think McHale couldn't guard him? Pippen? Oakley? Moncrief? I completely disagree with you. People could guard Magic well. And with the non-emphasis on three pointers and pace and space, the paint would have been very crowded.
The real question is who could guard McHale in the modern NBA?
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Pat Riley really did a bad job putting together this over priced Heat team.
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MIN @GSW... 4 blatant non-calls. The announcers saying "they could’ve called a foul but let them play instead" is like saying "they could’ve followed the rules but decided not to". This kinda thing matters.
They're down only 6 points.
This is a huge part of why I stopped watching the NBA.
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MIN @GSW... 4 blatant non-calls. The announcers saying "they could’ve called a foul but let them play instead" is like saying "they could’ve followed the rules but decided not to". This kinda thing matters.
They're down only 6 points.
This is a huge part of why I stopped watching the NBA.
I don't mind when an officiating squad decides to let the boys play rough. Just be consistent. What is a foul or traveling on one side of the court needs to be the same thing on the other end of the court. Sadly, it often isn't done that way as stars get star treatment and some teams are the darlings of the league and get special treatment.
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Especially given that we beat them last year without our two best players, who are now back and finally now rounding into shape.
To be fair, Milwaukee has also attained more talent since then, but any objective analysis clearly favors the Celtics in terms of talent attained from when the two teams met in the playoffs.
And all that is not even mentioning the fact that the Bucks’ hot start to the season and the Celtics’ mediocre start to the season has only put them two games ahead of us in the loss column, which is pretty telling given how poor we’ve started the season.
They see the Bucks as a totally different team now Budenholzer is running it. Yesterday they called their upcoming reign with Antetokounmpo something as: ,,Fans, get ready for the ride the next 7 years and it ain't going to be bumpy.''
They also named Antetokounmpo the most dominating player in the paint ever.
I wonder what he would've looked like in the 90's. With old defense rules, he'd have to be played straight-up more or double teamed and he's an excellent passer. He could've destroyed teams.
On the other hand, there would've been more, bigger players hanging around the rim to give him trouble.
Giannis would have been absolutely hammered whenever he went into the paint and would never have gotten so many ticky tack fouls called his way. Also, his traveling antics would be called.
Maybe he would still be a freak and absolutely great. But he would need to get a lot tougher, that's for sure.
I mean could you imagine the old style players actually trying to guard him. I mean seriously who the heck could have guarded him in the 80's. I mean that seriously. He is too big and strong for a normal 80's SF, and he is way too fast and athletic for a normal 90's PF. I suppose Rodman would have made him work, but there really aren't many players in that era that would have had any real shot at guarding him. So sure, he wasn't strong enough to play down low, but it wouldn't have mattered as no one could guard him.
You really think McHale couldn't guard him? Pippen? Oakley? Moncrief? I completely disagree with you. People could guard Magic well. And with the non-emphasis on three pointers and pace and space, the paint would have been very crowded.
The real question is who could guard McHale in the modern NBA?
Also when people discuss this stuff which era are they playing with the rules from? People would absolutely hammer Giannis when he came into the paint in the old days. I don’t think he could do it quite as much as he does now. Is there handchecking? Also do these guys Oakley, mchale etc get access to first class travel, hotels, training, nutrition? It’s incredible to think how good someone like mchale would have been with access to these things
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Craptors lost...Bucks gained though.
Does anyone else feel that we are atleast a notch above both teams?...
atleast the way the cs are playing now I suppose.
The Bucks announcers have a different view. They are always (not just last night) speculating about the upcoming Conference Finals between the two best teams in the East: Toronto and Milwaukee.
They really believe that the winner of the East is going to be decided in the match-up Leonard-Antetokounmpo. They don't even mention Boston as a possibility, which I think is disrespectful.
Their fans feel different. They are not impressed with the Craptors and said they fear the Celtics more.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Bad look for PBRD
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Bad look for PBRD
PBRD?
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Bad look for PBRD
PBRD?
Come on, LB is just throwing out a gimme here: Premium Brand Ricky Davis, of course! ;D
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So Rondo and Wade didn't exchange Jerseys?
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I Agree to disagree Moranis
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I Agree to disagree Moranis
with what exactly do you disagree?
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Bad look for PBRD
PBRD?
Poor something Ricky Davis I think. It's LBs go to insult for Jimmy Butler
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I Agree to disagree Moranis
with what exactly do you disagree?
I disagree that minutes played are more important than age. At best, in my opinion, they are equal. At the end of the day we are still human beings subject to the process of aging and there is lots of data that shows the slight impact of aging each year every person lives. The minutes played would certainly be a confounding factor, but not the overwhelming factor that is more important than age. You also have the risk of injuries, and recovery time from said injuries as a big factor correlated with age. To be honest I have a really hard time believing that many general managers would view jimmy butler at age 34 as a lesser risk of drop off than Irving at 32 just because Irving had played 200 more minutes or whatever because of longer playoff runs. (I also have a pretty hard believing you believe this either). However if you really believe that minutes are more important than age I don’t think it is worth either of our time to argue about it because there is so much conflicting data and confounding factors the conversation will go nowhere useful
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Poor something Ricky Davis I think. It's LBs go to insult for Jimmy Butler
Dude, you totally skipped my above answer and accompanying picture example. I was totally proud of my Kroger vs Kraft Mac n Cheese picture, too! :P
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TP. Yup, I missed that.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Anecdotal at best. It doesn’t matter what you argue. The fact is that most if not all GMs are likely to value a younger player to an older one, everything else being equal.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons. You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so). It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35. You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits. Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons. You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so). It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35. You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits. Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).
That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.
Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.
I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.
EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons. You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so). It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35. You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits. Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).
That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.
Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.
I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.
EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Yea, I appreciate the effort that Moranis has put into this, but I really feel like it doesn’t make sense. Carmelo for example is washed up right now cause he never adjusted his game. Wade and pierce developed an old man game to offset their declining athleticism. Lebron has bucked the trend by being in the cutting of fitness and nutrition. Age still is important though. It is the thing people spend the most money On in the world to defy. If it was a matter of
NBA minutes played offsetting that it would be quite wild
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Years ago on this site there was a discussion on the effective longevity of shooting guards. I did a bunch a research and it showed, unless you were a freak superstar at the position, that almost all SGs games, even All-Star level SGs, fell off a cliff at about 31-32 years old. Now a bunch of that data had data from decades where most players got in the league at 22 years old but also didn't have the advantages of modern medicine, dietitians and training. But still, it was about ten years and as a SG you lost your legs and your shot just was never the same again.
I could easily see that with players coming in younger and better overall modern advances could push that to 12 years, regardless of age. Someone said that overall GMs would prefer younger players. At 30 compared to 22 or 25, sure as long as the talent level is the same. The advantage of a lower salary and being able to have them more years makes a huge difference. But, depending upon the circumstances with the team as a whole, if you are competing for a title, you want the more experienced guy, talent being equal.
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Well, I’d say we aren’t getting the Clips pick. They are not a good team.
Getting absolutely smoked at home against a team missing their best player? Yeah, no Williams, but c’mon.
As soon as a few teams in the West wake up, they will start dropping in the standings quick. They just don’t have the firepower to hang.
They should be on the outside looking in by the new year.
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Well, I’d say we aren’t getting the Clips pick. They are not a good team.
Getting absolutely smoked at home against a team missing their best player? Yeah, no Williams, but c’mon.
As soon as a few teams in the West wake up, they will start dropping in the standings quick. They just don’t have the firepower to hang.
They should be on the outside looking in by the new year.
They've flied before all 12 of their games - as in, before their last 12 games, the Clippers team was on a plane (I heard anyway)
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons. You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so). It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35. You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits. Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).
That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.
Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.
I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.
EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Yea, I appreciate the effort that Moranis has put into this, but I really feel like it doesn’t make sense. Carmelo for example is washed up right now cause he never adjusted his game. Wade and pierce developed an old man game to offset their declining athleticism. Lebron has bucked the trend by being in the cutting of fitness and nutrition. Age still is important though. It is the thing people spend the most money On in the world to defy. If it was a matter of
NBA minutes played offsetting that it would be quite wild
Anthony is in his 16th season. In his 15th season he was still averaging 16/6. Pippen's 15th season he was averaging 11/4/4 and his 16th season was his last year in the league. Anthony, quite simply, has a ton of mileage on those legs. Sure he didn't adapt as much as he should have, but he also was still a decent player last year. His mileage is the problem though as he can't do what he used to be able to do and what according to you someone his age should be able to do.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons. You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so). It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35. You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits. Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).
That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.
Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.
I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.
EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Robinson played 6 games his 8th season though. Injuries change everything especially when you are older when you have them (Jordan getting hurt in year 2 is a much different injury than if Jordan would have been hurt 8+ years in). He was never really the same after he got hurt (except that him getting hurt led to Duncan and the team success he never had before that).
The last of Dirk's true peak was 2011 (his 12th year). His minutes, shots, etc. all started declining after that point and he wasn't quite the same. Sure he was still really good, but he showed a clear decline from that season on. When you start at a HOF level you aren't just going to fall off a cliff and become crappy, it is a gradual decline.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons. You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so). It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35. You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits. Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).
That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.
Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.
I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.
EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Robinson played 6 games his 8th season though. Injuries change everything especially when you are older when you have them (Jordan getting hurt in year 2 is a much different injury than if Jordan would have been hurt 8+ years in). He was never really the same after he got hurt (except that him getting hurt led to Duncan and the team success he never had before that).
The last of Dirk's true peak was 2011 (his 12th year). His minutes, shots, etc. all started declining after that point and he wasn't quite the same. Sure he was still really good, but he showed a clear decline from that season on. When you start at a HOF level you aren't just going to fall off a cliff and become crappy, it is a gradual decline.
Just looking at Dirks' career:
His rpg peaked in years 4 and 5 and there was a steady decline after year 7. Looking at rebounds (a stat predicated very much on effort and timing) you could argue he started his gradual decline in year 8.
His minutes started going down after year 11 but he played more mpg in year 16 than he did in year 15 and he played more mpg in year 18 than he did in year 17.
He had the best eFG% of his career in year 16, a year in which he averaged almost identical ppg as his 6th year.
I don't think these things happen in a clean, gradual way. As players lose some skills, they can gain others and it happens at different times for different people. But it's a combination of things not just hitting an arbitrary number of years in the NBA.
If you have some data on this I'd love to see it but you haven't presented any and I've given a number of examples of guys who, I think, don't match your model.
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Years ago on this site there was a discussion on the effective longevity of shooting guards. I did a bunch a research and it showed, unless you were a freak superstar at the position, that almost all SGs games, even All-Star level SGs, fell off a cliff at about 31-32 years old. Now a bunch of that data had data from decades where most players got in the league at 22 years old but also didn't have the advantages of modern medicine, dietitians and training. But still, it was about ten years and as a SG you lost your legs and your shot just was never the same again.
That rings true to me and yet, JJ Redick just had the two best years of his career at age 33 and 34. When Reggie Miller was 35, he averaged 19 ppg, 39 mpg, and played 81 games. Kobe averaged 27-6-6 at age 34, playing 78 games and over 38 mpg (and then his body exploded).
There are always examples of guys who last longer and don't last as long. If we're talking in generalities, what you're saying is probably correct but I think it's more instructive to look at how age and mileage affect players differently (aside from the obvious, at some point getting older makes you worse).
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Well, I’d say we aren’t getting the Clips pick. They are not a good team.
Getting absolutely smoked at home against a team missing their best player? Yeah, no Williams, but c’mon.
As soon as a few teams in the West wake up, they will start dropping in the standings quick. They just don’t have the firepower to hang.
They should be on the outside looking in by the new year.
They've flied before all 12 of their games - as in, before their last 12 games, the Clippers team was on a plane (I heard anyway)
I heard it was 13 lol, Rough stretch
SEGABABA with the previous game going into OT, also 3rd in 4 nights
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons. You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so). It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35. You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits. Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).
That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.
Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.
I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.
EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Yea, I appreciate the effort that Moranis has put into this, but I really feel like it doesn’t make sense. Carmelo for example is washed up right now cause he never adjusted his game. Wade and pierce developed an old man game to offset their declining athleticism. Lebron has bucked the trend by being in the cutting of fitness and nutrition. Age still is important though. It is the thing people spend the most money On in the world to defy. If it was a matter of
NBA minutes played offsetting that it would be quite wild
Anthony is in his 16th season. In his 15th season he was still averaging 16/6. Pippen's 15th season he was averaging 11/4/4 and his 16th season was his last year in the league. Anthony, quite simply, has a ton of mileage on those legs. Sure he didn't adapt as much as he should have, but he also was still a decent player last year. His mileage is the problem though as he can't do what he used to be able to do and what according to you someone his age should be able to do.
Carmelo was awful last year. He was benched in the playoffs. I’m not sure what you are trying to argue at this point, but when you say Carmelo was decent last year you are on the wrong side of it.
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Jimmy butler injured his groin tonight. Note Jimmy is 29. A five year max would sign him through his age 34 season. For comparison deng is 33 now. Noah is 33 now and Rose is 30. Curse of thibs?
Butler has played 15820 regular season minutes and 1627 playoff minutes for 17447 total minutes. As a comparison, that is less total minutes than Irving has played (17606). Irving also has a far more extensive injury history. I don't see too many people worried about signing Irving to a max contract.
The concern with Thibs isn't so much after the players leave, it is Thibs getting them injured when they are still playing for him. That is what derailed Noah and Rose. Deng is on a whole other level when it comes to minutes (over 33000 total - 16th among active players in the regular season) and many of those pre-date Thibs. He is just worn out.
Theee are definitely people worried about Irving being injury prone. Minutes aside I think the average person is also more worried about playing a player 30+ million at their age 34 seasons compared to their age 32 season. Feels like just being contrarion to argue this...
History has shown minutes, seasons, etc. are more critical to falling off a cliff then actual age (aside from injury of course). That is why I never pay all that much attention to age as mileage is what matters most when talking about the end of a player's career (that is why I'm really concerned about Horford after this year as his mileage is building up).
History also shows that while a younger player will likely develop more quickly and has a higher ceiling than an older player, that after 3 or 4 years in the league players are generally what they will be. They will still improve, but it is almost always gradual and there are almost never huge jumps no matter their age once they hit that point (in the first few seasons huge jumps happen all the time). That is why I pay less attention to age on players at the end of their rookie contracts as it generally makes no difference at that point.
I'd be curious to know what history you're referring to.
when the players started entering the league earlier, they also started to have their prime periods shift such that their prime starting age was reduced. I mean look at Anthony and Wade. Entered the league in the same year and started their decline in the same year, yet Wade is 3 years older than Anthony. That decline started around year 12 for both players, which if you look at historically is when the vast majority of players really start to decline. That matches many of the older players like Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Pippen, Barkley, etc. Now 12 years doesn't mean the same amount of minutes for everyone, but by and large most of the players were playing close to full seasons with a lot of minutes and a fair amount of playoff mileage. Even many of the straight from high school players, like Jermaine O'Neal hold pretty firm in the 12 year range for their decline to start (JO was actually year 11 when he was 28). Some players that don't get as much wear and tear early on last longer, and some guys buck the trend entirely (like James, maybe Durant who is in year 12 now), but by and large most players begin their decline around 12 seasons in and it really doesn't matter if they are 28 or 35. Mileage on the body, not physical age, is the main determining factor.
Didn’t jermaine O’Neal have very low minutes his first 3 years or so? I recall him rotting on the bench in Portland. It’s also a rather provocative thought if you think about it like this. If a player plays 36 minutes a game for all 82 games that is about 3000 minutes. Yet there are 325, 000 minutes in a year. This hypothesis is that the 3000 minutes of nba action outweigh the 295k minutes off the court that include practices, running, weight lifting, physical therapy, eating, sleeping, cross training. Olympic and international play etc? Man that’s really hard to believe
12 seasons are 12 seasons. You can spot check any random player you want (obviously the ones that stayed in the league for a long time) and note that that is when most really show their decline (+- a year or so). It obviously isn't just minutes, but all of those other things you mention, it takes a toll on your body, but it does all of that whether you are 30 or 35. You then see a steady decline until they finally call it quits. Again there are some exceptions (Kareem, the Mailman, Lebron), but by and large 12ish seasons in is the last steady or increasing year, and after that it goes downhill fairly steadily (but generally not all at once).
That feels a little arbitrary. Pierce didn't show an appreciable drop in numbers until year 14. Ray Allen's role was different but he still played 2890 minutes and was an all star in year 15. Garnett's first year in Boston was his 13th and I don't think there was much if any drop off in his ability.
Dirk was still an assassin in year 15. You can look at his rebounding as an indicator of his decline but those numbers fell steadily after his 7th season. Reggie Miller dropped off in his 15th year. Manu Ginobili started to decline after his 9th season despite playing fewer minutes than a lot of guys but he was older.
I think the truth is it's different for different people. It's a combination of years, minutes, and age and that all gets mixed in with biology. It just isn't one thing (like mileage) and it certainly isn't the same for everyone.
EDIT: And you specifically mentioned Robinson, who had a steep decline after year 9 even though he was an older rookie.
Robinson played 6 games his 8th season though. Injuries change everything especially when you are older when you have them (Jordan getting hurt in year 2 is a much different injury than if Jordan would have been hurt 8+ years in). He was never really the same after he got hurt (except that him getting hurt led to Duncan and the team success he never had before that).
The last of Dirk's true peak was 2011 (his 12th year). His minutes, shots, etc. all started declining after that point and he wasn't quite the same. Sure he was still really good, but he showed a clear decline from that season on. When you start at a HOF level you aren't just going to fall off a cliff and become crappy, it is a gradual decline.
Just looking at Dirks' career:
His rpg peaked in years 4 and 5 and there was a steady decline after year 7. Looking at rebounds (a stat predicated very much on effort and timing) you could argue he started his gradual decline in year 8.
His minutes started going down after year 11 but he played more mpg in year 16 than he did in year 15 and he played more mpg in year 18 than he did in year 17.
He had the best eFG% of his career in year 16, a year in which he averaged almost identical ppg as his 6th year.
I don't think these things happen in a clean, gradual way. As players lose some skills, they can gain others and it happens at different times for different people. But it's a combination of things not just hitting an arbitrary number of years in the NBA.
If you have some data on this I'd love to see it but you haven't presented any and I've given a number of examples of guys who, I think, don't match your model.
I am pretty sure this isn’t based on a highly complicated statistical model. It definitely isn’t true that minutes definitely outweigh age. I’ve seen a lot of research on this across sports and there is no magic bullet.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
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Miami just stinks tonight. Down 30 in the second quarter.
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Tonight was apparently AD’s seventh locker room visit this season.
Guess that’s what people mean when they say he gets dinged up often or has numerous injury scares...
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
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The standings this year are crazy tight in the Eastern and Western conference. The Playoffs are going to be amazing this year.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
If Raptors lose it's just 2 games in the loss column with Raptors 3 more games than us.
Boston struggled to get in sync for 20 games. Then they figure it out and suddenly they look like they are the best team in the East. And no other team ran away with the conference. C's going to take the East after all.
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Toronto looks good tonight and here I was thinking they were about to slide down the standings.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
Minny can be so inept sometimes.
Nets also beat the Sixers who were without Butler. C’s were without THREE of their best players, lol.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
the ONE season we get their pick...
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Yeesh....Raps are smoking the Dubs on their own floor, and they don't even have Kawhi tonight.
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I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.
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David Joerger is a hell of a coach, unfortunately...
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I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.
If Durant or Curry get hurt they’re done. They have ZERO depth.
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I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.
If Durant or Curry get hurt they’re done. They have ZERO depth.
They do seem more top heavy than ever. Boogie (whenever he returns) is going to be one heck of a wild-card though.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak. Kinda a shame. Not much value in picks in those range. G-League roster could be lit, tho.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak. Kinda a shame. Not much value in picks in those range. G-League roster could be lit, tho.
Luckily the season doesn't end today. Memphis(losers of 6 of last 10 games) and LAC(losers of 4 of last 6 games) are trending down after their hot start. And Sactown might have the most difficult schedule in the league over the next month. In 2 months, those picks may be extremely valuable.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak. Kinda a shame. Not much value in picks in those range. G-League roster could be lit, tho.
Luckily the season doesn't end today. Memphis(losers of 6 of last 10 games) and LAC(losers of 4 of last 6 games) are trending down after their hot start. And Sactown might have the most difficult schedule in the league over the next month. In 2 months, those picks may be extremely valuable.
Didn’t you know we are pretty much out of the running for the top record and the picks are worthless already? After all, it’s almost the middle of December.
I’m surprised this forum survived a 10-10 start.
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I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.
Yeah, their depth is really quite terrible. Iggy is basically a non-factor for them now, Livingston is slowing, their other backup guards aren’t noteworthy (although I like Cook) and their only starting caliber 5 (not counting Dray) is Boogie, who could be absolutely anything when he returns.
They were a healthy CP3 from perhaps losing the WCF, and they’ve regressed since then.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak. Kinda a shame. Not much value in picks in those range. G-League roster could be lit, tho.
Luckily the season doesn't end today. Memphis(losers of 6 of last 10 games) and LAC(losers of 4 of last 6 games) are trending down after their hot start. And Sactown might have the most difficult schedule in the league over the next month. In 2 months, those picks may be extremely valuable.
best case scenario for the kings pick is probably the 9th best lotto odds. A lot of competition in the West will make it difficult for them to make the playoffs.
Still very annoying to see them winning so much.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us
Kings are winning
lol you're reaching and are usually a more nuanced contrarian than this poor effort.
If the season ended today we'd have picks 18, 20, 22 and 23 in a draft called weak. Kinda a shame. Not much value in picks in those range. G-League roster could be lit, tho.
I legit love this post man. Glad to have you back. Tp
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For reference. We still have best odds to win east per
Vegas. Toronto is second. Bucks are third and 76ers are 4th. This is per sportsbook, one of the biggest sites. I feel it is a bit silly to call Philly the favorites right now, both given those odds and the fact that Toronto has curb stomped them and the warriors so far. That being said larbrd is incredible how
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For reference. We still have best odds to win east per
Vegas. Toronto is second. Bucks are third and 76ers are 4th. This is per sportsbook, one of the biggest sites. I feel it is a bit silly to call Philly the favorites right now, both given those odds and the fact that Toronto has curb stomped them and the warriors so far. That being said larbrd is incredible how
lol clay. I missed you.
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We are going to thrash the league this year when playoffs come.
We have just started to heat up, we still have a lot of room to grow and we have the same number of loses as GSW (finals HC here we come!), Philly, and just one more than "uber-hot all fascinating" Bucks.
Media, the majority of fans, they never learn. You don't peak in November, as you won't be able to sustain it. You try to peak after the all-star break, March. Then you hopefully keep it for the next 2/3 months.
We know.
But we are the Celtics afterall.
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Sixers lose to Nets. Bucks lose to Pacers. Raptors play Warriors tonight.
All of a sudden, just 1 game back of the 2 seed and 4 back of 1st (could be 3.5 if Toronto loses tonight) ;D
Shaping up to be a great night for us c.f.
Kings are winning
My dvr was twitchy and simple miscellaneous moments throughout the game. Besides that I'd say I had an average to slightly above average night. Thanks for asking.
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I think you can really tell the mental/emotional drain that the past four finals runs have done to this Warriors team. They just don't look to have the same energy or intensity this year, and a lot of the time they look like they're just going through the motions.
If Durant or Curry get hurt they’re done. They have ZERO depth.
Is it the Warriors losing it or is the Raptors are really just that good?.. didn't see the game but to dust them Warriors who were actually complete by a Kawhi-less Craptors, then something musthave happened to one or the other.
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Clippers down 15 in third. A loss would be their 5th in 7 games. Tracking downward and helping our pick.
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Clippers down 15 in third. A loss would be their 5th in 7 games. Tracking downward and helping our pick.
They got slammed by the Spurs. Down by 30 now in the 4th.
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Clippers down 15 in third. A loss would be their 5th in 7 games. Tracking downward and helping our pick.
As long as the C's get that pick it's a win. Don't need them sliding back into the lottery which I can see happening.
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Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size. Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.
So capable of blowing by his defender from the corner, just not strong enough to keep the guy on his hip and finish steong at the rim.
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Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size. Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.
He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.
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Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size. Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.
He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.
Probably true. It seems judgment was never his strong suit.
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Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size. Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.
He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.
Probably true. It seems judgment was never his strong suit.
I bet Jackson and Ryan McDonough thought it was cute sending Celtics staff and management on a 14 hour round trip flight for nothing but Danny Angie always has the last laugh....
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Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size. Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.
He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.
Probably true. It seems judgment was never his strong suit.
I bet Jackson and Ryan McDonough thought it was cute sending Celtics staff and management on a 14 hour round trip flight for nothing but Danny Angie always has the last laugh....
He said it was a miscommunication/scheduling error by Armstrong. I'm not sure it was that devious, clearly wouldn't do him any favors.
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Josh Jackson is a very good ball handler and passer for his size. Fun to watch him to push the ball in transition.
He has some skills and he's very athletic but he probably shouldn't pushed his way on to The Suns.
Probably true. It seems judgment was never his strong suit.
I bet Jackson and Ryan McDonough thought it was cute sending Celtics staff and management on a 14 hour round trip flight for nothing but Danny Angie always has the last laugh....
He said it was a miscommunication/scheduling error by Armstrong. I'm not sure it was that devious, clearly wouldn't do him any favors.
https://clutchpoints.com/suns-gm-ryan-mcdonough-claims-he-colluded-with-josh-jackson-about-not-working-out-for-celtics/
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Dallas could not put the balloon the ocean from 3 tonight.
Another solid game by Doncic
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Based on point differential the worst 10 teams in the NBA right now are:
From the Eastern Conference
Detroit Pistons
Miami Heat
Brooklyn Nets
Orlando Magic
Washington Wizards
New York Knicks
Cleveland Cavaliers
Atlanta Hawks
Chicago Bulls
From the Western Conference
Phoenix Suns
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There are exactly 16 teams who have a positive point differential, which coincidentally is equal to the number of playoff teams. However that includes only 6 teams from the East to 10 from the West.
From the Eastern Conference
Milwaukee Bucks
Toronto Raptors
Boston Celtics
Indiana Pacers
Charlotte Hornets
Philadelphia 76ers
From the Western Conference
Oklahoma City Thunder
Denver Nuggets
Golden State Warriors
New Orleans Pelicans
Dallas Mavericks
Los Angeles Lakers
Portland Trail Blazers
Memphis Grizzlies
LA Clippers
Utah Jazz
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As long as the Celtics take care of business tonight, they will move up in the standings, or at least join a few tied teams in the 2-4 range of the East. Pacers vs. Sixers tonight, so Celtics will benefit in some way ;D
Unfortunately don't see CLE upsetting MIL tonight. Blazers could beat Raptors but doubt it.
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Well, for all those worrisome Celtics fans that thought just because the Raptors beat the Warriors in Golden State without Kawhi Leonard that Toronto was such a monster team.....the lost in Portland tonight and are now just 2 games in the loss column ahead of Boston. And it isn't even Xmas yet.
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Well, for all those worrisome Celtics fans that thought just because the Raptors beat the Warriors in Golden State without Kawhi Leonard that Toronto was such a monster team.....the lost in Portland tonight and are now just 2 games in the loss column ahead of Boston. And it isn't even Xmas yet.
and denver up next!
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Well, for all those worrisome Celtics fans that thought just because the Raptors beat the Warriors in Golden State without Kawhi Leonard that Toronto was such a monster team.....the lost in Portland tonight and are now just 2 games in the loss column ahead of Boston. And it isn't even Xmas yet.
They play better team ball without Kawhi.
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Celtics win
Raptors lose
Sixers lose
Kings lose
Grizzlies lose
Today was a good day.
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Celtics win
Raptors lose
Sixers lose
Kings lose
Grizzlies lose
Today was a good day.
also:
Blazers, heat, nets, and knicks all won which make these teams closer to having a better record than the Kings.
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Of the 18 teams that played a game last night, only 2 scored fewer than 100 points. The Grizzlies scored 97 and the Thunder scored 98. Eight teams scored more than 120.
What a year.
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Minnesota lost to Phoenix
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I finally remembered who Westbrook reminds me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evwkX8-AKd8
Happy holidays folks!
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James Harden going OFF....
Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...
He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.
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James Harden going OFF....
Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...
He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.
Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
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James Harden going OFF....
Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...
He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.
Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.
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James Harden going OFF....
Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...
He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.
Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.
What kind of reasoning is this?
Excuse me, just because you can, it should be allowed despite being against the rules. smh
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James Harden going OFF....
Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...
He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.
Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.
I agree with RockinRyA... Shaq could push everyone out of the court .... Should he have been allowed to do so ?
I won't use the travelling to lower Harden's ability , he is an unstoppable scorer but a rule is a rule.
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James Harden going OFF....
Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...
He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.
Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.
I agree with RockinRyA... Shaq could push everyone out of the court .... Should he have been allowed to do so ?
I won't use the travelling to lower Harden's ability , he is an unstoppable scorer but a rule is a rule.
All superstars get their calls. It is engraved in the game of this league.
MJ, Kobe, D.Wade, Shaq...
Now its Giannis, just remember the playoffs vs us. He was trampling over Semi until refs finally watched the tape between game 3-4.
But occasionally refs miss things and players with high usage, by the sheer number of possessions they create, get more of these calls. More tries, more calls.
Also, some guys are hard to officiate. Shaq, Lebron come to mind as they are so strong. Nowadays, Embiid is in this category too.
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James Harden going OFF....
Just dunked on Stifle Tower something fierce...
He is quite vicious when he gets rolling. Thank goodness we have Smart.
Hard to stop a guy that talented who is also allowed to take five steps with no call.
Others can try to do it too.
They just don't have the footwork.
I agree with RockinRyA... Shaq could push everyone out of the court .... Should he have been allowed to do so ?
I won't use the travelling to lower Harden's ability , he is an unstoppable scorer but a rule is a rule.
All superstars get their calls. It is engraved in the game of this league.
MJ, Kobe, D.Wade, Shaq...
Now its Giannis, just remember the playoffs vs us. He was trampling over Semi until refs finally watched the tape between game 3-4.
But occasionally refs miss things and players with high usage, by the sheer number of possessions they create, get more of these calls. More tries, more calls.
Also, some guys are hard to officiate. Shaq, Lebron come to mind as they are so strong. Nowadays, Embiid is in this category too.
There is nothing hard about noticing a guy hop around the arc.
Plenty others have footwork and don’t do what he does as consistently as he does it. He could be a ballerina, it’s still very obvious to anyone watching him play.
You can justify/support it all you want, doesn’t make it acceptable (to most, apparently).
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Oladipo missed 2 foul shots with 9 seconds left and the Pacers up 1. Nance gets the rebound. Hood misses with 2 seconds left and Nance gets a tip in as time expires for the Cavs victory
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nets beat lakers. 6 wins in a row
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Oladipo missed 2 foul shots with 9 seconds left and the Pacers up 1. Nance gets the rebound. Hood misses with 2 seconds left and Nance gets a tip in as time expires for the Cavs victory
Why couldn’t he choke against us :'(
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this monte morris kid on denver might just keep IT on the bench? wonder if we could trade for IT...or they do him a favor and buy him out?
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this monte morris kid on denver might just keep IT on the bench? wonder if we could trade for IT...or they do him a favor and buy him out?
IT is past tense for us.
I hope he is not for the league.
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nets beat lakers. 6 wins in a row
That block on Lebron was a delight!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDl_qzfdeE8
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Really happy the Nets stuck with Kenny Atkinson; a lot of teams would have canned him two seasons ago. The guys always played hard for him, now the team is getting rewarded. They are also starting to draft well. Too bad they didn't keep pick that turned out to be Kuzma.
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Refs give Toronto the game in the final seconds missing a blatant foul on Toronto on a three that would've tied the game. Classic incompetent NBA officiating ::)
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Refs give Toronto the game in the final seconds missing a blatant foul on Toronto on a three that would've tied the game. Classic incompetent NBA officiating ::)
Don't let that distract you from the fact Fred Van Vleet and Kawhi were hitting big time shots... Pacers had 11 points in the 4th Elite defense.
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Refs give Toronto the game in the final seconds missing a blatant foul on Toronto on a three that would've tied the game. Classic incompetent NBA officiating ::)
Don't let that distract you from the fact Fred Van Vleet and Kawhi were hitting big time shots... Pacers had 11 points in the 4th Elite defense.
Bad calls are bad calls. They needed to be called out.
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At least MEM and SAC are on track to lose and temporarily be the updated #10 and #11 seeds in the WC
SAC pick watch has been very disappointing, MEM not as much with the 1-8 protection.
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all our picks are trending upwards
- Kings: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 12th pick
- Memphis: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 13th pick
- Clippers: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 20th pick
- Boston: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 23rd pick
Nice.
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all our picks are trending upwards
- Kings: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 12th pick
- Memphis: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 13th pick
- Clippers: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 20th pick
- Boston: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 23rd pick
Nice.
Clipper honeymoon is definitely over.
Now it's: Married… with Children ;D
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all our picks are trending upwards
- Kings: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 12th pick
- Memphis: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 13th pick
- Clippers: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 20th pick
- Boston: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 23rd pick
Nice.
I think that the Kings and Memphis are going to drop even further, to around 6-10. Probably the Memphis pick is going to be just out of the top 8 protection (don't know if that's a good thing or not). It's so close in the West that I can see the Clippers lose the playoff race, in which pick doesn't convey this season (Edited).
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all our picks are trending upwards
- Kings: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 12th pick
- Memphis: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 13th pick
- Clippers: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 20th pick
- Boston: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 23rd pick
Nice.
I think that the Kings and Memphis are going to drop even further, to around 6-10. Probably the Memphis pick is going to be just out of the top 8 protection (don't know if that's a good thing or not). It's so close in the West that I can see the Clippers lose the playoff race, in which case the pick becomes two second rounders.
we still have another year on the Clippers pick.
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all our picks are trending upwards
- Kings: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 12th pick
- Memphis: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 13th pick
- Clippers: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 20th pick
- Boston: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 23rd pick
Nice.
I think that the Kings and Memphis are going to drop even further, to around 6-10. Probably the Memphis pick is going to be just out of the top 8 protection (don't know if that's a good thing or not). It's so close in the West that I can see the Clippers lose the playoff race, in which case the pick becomes two second rounders.
we still have another year on the Clippers pick.
Oh, yes you're right. I really thought this was the last year it could convey as a first rounder. Thanks for correcting me. TP.
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all our picks are trending upwards
- Kings: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 12th pick
- Memphis: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 13th pick
- Clippers: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 20th pick
- Boston: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 23rd pick
Nice.
I think that the Kings and Memphis are going to drop even further, to around 6-10. Probably the Memphis pick is going to be just out of the top 8 protection (don't know if that's a good thing or not). It's so close in the West that I can see the Clippers lose the playoff race, in which case the pick becomes two second rounders.
we still have another year on the Clippers pick.
Oh, yes you're right. I really thought this was the last year it could convey as a first rounder. Thanks for correcting me. TP.
No problem, I don't think the Clippers make the playoffs this year, so they really need to be successful over the summer in landing someone like Leonard or it isn't going to convey next year either. I just don't think they have enough top end to make the playoffs in the west without landing a marquee free agent (or somehow acquiring one in a trade).
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93% of Giannis' points come in the paint or at the FT line.
Unbelievable how dominant he has been this year without a jump-shot.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25571846/best-nba-players-every-spot-basketball-court
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all our picks are trending upwards
- Kings: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 12th pick
- Memphis: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 13th pick
- Clippers: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 20th pick
- Boston: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 23rd pick
Nice.
We absolutely need Boston to keep losing! :P
To me, I think it will be nice even if one of the MEM/SAC picks lands Top-10. Both of them would be sweet without a doubt though :)
Neither will be Top-5 obviously.
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all our picks are trending upwards
- Kings: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 12th pick
- Memphis: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 13th pick
- Clippers: Lost 4 in a row. Now projected 20th pick
- Boston: Lost 2 in a row. Now projected 23rd pick
Nice.
We absolutely need Boston to keep losing! :P
To me, I think it will be nice even if one of the MEM/SAC picks lands Top-10. Both of them would be sweet without a doubt though :)
Neither will be Top-5 obviously.
With the new lotto odds smoothing chances out and adding another selected slot, I am not ruling out a top 5 finish for the Sacramento pick anytime soon. An initial placement as 9th best odds still gives you about a 5% chance to land picks 2 through 4 or odds about as good as finishing with the 6th worst record used to give you.
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4 tough games coming up
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I watch a lot of Doncic and its rare that he doesn't look like the best player on the court. Insane that he's only 19 y/o.
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I watch a lot of Doncic and its rare that he doesn't look like the best player on the court. Insane that he's only 19 y/o.
I have known this for 2-3 years.
It was mind-boggling to me that he wasn't 1, 2 or 3 (Atlanta) pick in the draft.
GMs can tear their diplomas up, as they are apparently worthless.
I always felt like Lukas contribution would translate seamlessly.
So much experience, skill, size, and pedigree, without injury history in one man can't fail.
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The NBA has granted the Milwaukee Bucks relief of Mirza Teletovic’s contract due to career-ending injury, removing $10.5 million on salary books.
Shams Tweet (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1076244046299856896)
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Watching the Memphis game, they just interviewed Vitaly Potapenko... didn’t know he’s an asst coach for Grizz...
Already seen Van Exel and Stackhouse interviewed this year lol
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The NBA has granted the Milwaukee Bucks relief of Mirza Teletovic’s contract due to career-ending injury, removing $10.5 million on salary books.
Shams Tweet (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1076244046299856896)
The only time the NBA hasn't granted this kind of relief is when Reggie Lewis died. He stay on the Celtics books the entire length of his contract.
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I watch a lot of Doncic and its rare that he doesn't look like the best player on the court. Insane that he's only 19 y/o.
He finished this game with his best line: 32/5/4/4/3.
He has 14 in the first qtr vs. GS right now.
You can see him getting better with each game. We need to poach this magical human being.
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anyone watching this suns/wiz game? currently triple OT
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Looks like the Bucks expended most of their energy against us last night. I've only watched the end of the game, but the box score indicates that the Bucks put up a clunker against the Heat, shooting just 37% on their back to back.
Hopefully the Heat stay move and stay ahead of the Kings. Their jerseys are horrible though.
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Tight, gritty game between Utah and OKC. Feels like they are back in the playoffs. Donovan Mitchell is at the line with 1 sec left, down 2....
edit: OKC pulled it out. Second straight 40+ point game for George.
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26/12/8 (85% FG) for Simmons vs. Kawhi-less Toronto. In the past five, he's averaging 19 pts, 10 rbs, 8.5 assts on 62% shooting.
Unrelated, the Celtics could benefit from having a guy like Monte Morris. He is a good shooter, smart, clutch, and consistent, with the lowest ast/TO ratio in the league. Normally a PG, but plays alongside Murray to close most games.
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26/12/8 (85% FG) for Simmons vs. Kawhi-less Toronto. In the past five, he's averaging 19 pts, 10 rbs, 8.5 assts on 62% shooting.
I found it baffling that raptors played Leonard last night against the cavs then sat him in a tougher game today. I would lose my mind if Stevens did this with seeding at stake
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Tight, gritty game between Utah and OKC. Feels like they are back in the playoffs. Donovan Mitchell is at the line with 1 sec left, down 2....
edit: OKC pulled it out. Second straight 40+ point game for George.
George is having an awesome season this year. If he keeps it up it’ll be his best
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26/12/8 (85% FG) for Simmons vs. Kawhi-less Toronto. In the past five, he's averaging 19 pts, 10 rbs, 8.5 assts on 62% shooting.
I found it baffling that raptors played Leonard last night against the cavs then sat him in a tougher game today. I would lose my mind if Stevens did this with seeding at stake
I guess he hasn't played both halves of a b2b yet this year. Apparently he was deemed "ready" for that after this loss.
I'll say that among the top contenders in the east - Bos, Tor, Phi - Toronto would be the one to sink the hardest with a serious injury. They're so reliant on Kawhi, while Boston or Philly could probably withstand a big injury in the playoffs.
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26/12/8 (85% FG) for Simmons vs. Kawhi-less Toronto. In the past five, he's averaging 19 pts, 10 rbs, 8.5 assts on 62% shooting.
I found it baffling that raptors played Leonard last night against the cavs then sat him in a tougher game today. I would lose my mind if Stevens did this with seeding at stake
I guess he hasn't played both halves of a b2b yet this year. Apparently he was deemed "ready" for that after this loss.
I'll say that among the top contenders in the east - Bos, Tor, Phi - Toronto would be the one to sink the hardest with a serious injury. They're so reliant on Kawhi, while Boston or Philly could probably withstand a big injury in the playoffs.
I doubt that. Maybe that Boston could live without Irving, but can you imagine Milwaukee without Antetokounmpo or Philadelphia without Embiid? In that case I absolutely take Toronto without Leonard.
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26/12/8 (85% FG) for Simmons vs. Kawhi-less Toronto. In the past five, he's averaging 19 pts, 10 rbs, 8.5 assts on 62% shooting.
I found it baffling that raptors played Leonard last night against the cavs then sat him in a tougher game today. I would lose my mind if Stevens did this with seeding at stake
I guess he hasn't played both halves of a b2b yet this year. Apparently he was deemed "ready" for that after this loss.
I'll say that among the top contenders in the east - Bos, Tor, Phi - Toronto would be the one to sink the hardest with a serious injury. They're so reliant on Kawhi, while Boston or Philly could probably withstand a big injury in the playoffs.
I doubt that. Maybe that Boston could live without Irving, but can you imagine Milwaukee without Antetokounmpo or Philadelphia without Embiid? In that case I absolutely take Toronto without Leonard.
Agreed. Milwaukee without Giannis is not frightening at all, as they basically just become a pure shooting team.
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Tight, gritty game between Utah and OKC. Feels like they are back in the playoffs. Donovan Mitchell is at the line with 1 sec left, down 2....
edit: OKC pulled it out. Second straight 40+ point game for George.
George is having an awesome season this year. If he keeps it up it’ll be his best
So there’s hope for Hayward
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Tight, gritty game between Utah and OKC. Feels like they are back in the playoffs. Donovan Mitchell is at the line with 1 sec left, down 2....
edit: OKC pulled it out. Second straight 40+ point game for George.
George is having an awesome season this year. If he keeps it up it’ll be his best
So there’s hope for Hayward
Without doubt. People just need a shred of patience.
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Rondo has entered the Grizzlies game
Grizz have lost 5 straight and 7 of 8
Kings won again, worst pick watch ever lol :P
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Doncic is stupid good. Think I’d take him over any other young player in the league (excluding Giannis - he’s been around forever anyway)
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How does Willie Cauley Stein compare to Rob Will?
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Doncic is stupid good. Think I’d take him over any other young player in the league (excluding Giannis - he’s been around forever anyway)
They're on a tough road trip and this has been the worse game Luka has played in a while...
but he just hit a game-tying 3 with 0.6 left in Portland. He's just incredible.
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whiteside mentioned recently he changed his FT routine prior tothis season and will be switching back lol.....
shooting 53/117 going into the Magic game, 7/37 last 30 days
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All star voting has begun
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All star voting has begun
(didn't put too much thought into it)
Kyrie - Oladipo - Kawhi - Giannis - Embiid
Steph - Harden - LeBron - Durant - Davis
I selected Doncic instead of LeBron though :P
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The Knicks (w/o Porzingis) being on Christmas Day is hilarious. Predictably getting beat by 15 by the Bucks as well at the moment.
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Watching OKC-HOU makes me feel good about our team.
Both looking nothing special.
I’ll admit I rarely watch non-Celtics games.
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I wish Baynes could become more like Adams. Specially his soft touch close to the rim.
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Unlikely but what if NYK tankers bought out Kanter, could be this year's Marbury or Monroe or Nate Rob
they can focus on Vonleh, Mitchell Robinson
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Rondo sighting in *Golden State.
I can't not watch this feller.
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I wish Baynes could become more like Adams. Specially his soft touch close to the rim.
I’d kill for Adams on this team. His numbers (particularly rebounding) would be way flashier if Russ wasn’t busy chasing stats
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
What's going on in GS? Just coasting I'd imagine?
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Game of zones is back! 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdr_lE0nzWE
This was better than the game itself! I missed game of zones!
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Anyone see something about LeBron hearing a pop with that injury?
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
What's going on in GS? Just coasting I'd imagine?
I think it’s a mix of coasting, lack of depth and chemistry issues
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Rondo is beating the Warriors.
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
What's going on in GS? Just coasting I'd imagine?
I think it’s a mix of coasting, lack of depth and chemistry issues
Green stinks as well.
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I can't decide who I hate (GS vs. Lakers) more or love (Rondo) more. But at the end of the day Laker hate still trumps everything.
Go Dubs (exasperatedly)
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Green literally can't shoot anymore. Thompson isn't having a good season either. Just trying to make it to the playoffs intact.
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Man, the Dubs don't have any centers
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Zubac killing the Warriors inside the paint.
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We have a thread talking about Jeff Green - while we're speaking of ex-Celts - how about Rondo. Dude looks spry and as great as ever...
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We have a thread talking about Jeff Green - while we're speaking of ex-Celts - how about Rondo. Dude looks spry and as great as ever...
I don't mind having him back next year as a Rozier replacement.
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We have a thread talking about Jeff Green - while we're speaking of ex-Celts - how about Rondo. Dude looks spry and as great as ever...
I don't mind having him back next year as a Rozier replacement.
I was praying Danny would find a way to get him back.
The Lakers are much more fun to watch when it’s Rondo running the show and not James.
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We have a thread talking about Jeff Green - while we're speaking of ex-Celts - how about Rondo. Dude looks spry and as great as ever...
I don't mind having him back next year as a Rozier replacement.
I was praying Danny would find a way to get him back.
The Lakers are much more fun to watch when it’s Rondo running the show and not James.
He's pretty much the reason I'm watching the Lakers this season.
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
What's going on in GS? Just coasting I'd imagine?
I think it’s a mix of coasting, lack of depth and chemistry issues
Three years ago they broke the 72-10 record with a 73-9 season. Now they're 23-12 and it's just December. Perhaps a locker room problem?
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Jae Crowder looks like he back to his peak-Celtics form. Quin Snyder is such a good coach.
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
What's going on in GS? Just coasting I'd imagine?
I think it’s a mix of coasting, lack of depth and chemistry issues
Three years ago they broke the 72-10 record with a 73-9 season. Now they're 23-12 and it's just December. Perhaps a locker room problem?
Draymond Green seemingly forget how to shoot, and at times it seems like they are playing 3 on 5 on offense. Their depth doesn’t seem like it used to be either.
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
What's going on in GS? Just coasting I'd imagine?
I think it’s a mix of coasting, lack of depth and chemistry issues
Three years ago they broke the 72-10 record with a 73-9 season. Now they're 23-12 and it's just December. Perhaps a locker room problem?
I think it has more to do with a perennial finals team deciding to coast during the regular season. The KG era Celtics did this after the 2008 title. It takes a lot of energy to maintain the defensive effort and focus needed to be a top seed for 82 games. When a team has nothing to prove they just coast and do just enough to have a mid-tier playoff spot so that they can turn it on in May.
Giving up 127 points to the Lakers is a clear sign of lack of effort for a team that has been a top level defensive team during their championship reign.
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
What's going on in GS? Just coasting I'd imagine?
I think it’s a mix of coasting, lack of depth and chemistry issues
Three years ago they broke the 72-10 record with a 73-9 season. Now they're 23-12 and it's just December. Perhaps a locker room problem?
Draymond Green seemingly forget how to shoot, and at times it seems like they are playing 3 on 5 on offense. Their depth doesn’t seem like it used to be either.
Draymond is the definition of OVERRATED!!!
Nothing in his game thrills me, he is a jack of all trades master of none fellow...The team that signs him to a max contract is going to regret it full time..I hope the Warriors will be forced to extend him long term...HA!!
Durant will be gone after this season and its almost written in stone...whether they win gain or not...(leaning towards they don't make it out of the West, just a very tough conference to be in.)
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
What's going on in GS? Just coasting I'd imagine?
I think it’s a mix of coasting, lack of depth and chemistry issues
Three years ago they broke the 72-10 record with a 73-9 season. Now they're 23-12 and it's just December. Perhaps a locker room problem?
I think it has more to do with a perennial finals team deciding to coast during the regular season. The KG era Celtics did this after the 2008 title. It takes a lot of energy to maintain the defensive effort and focus needed to be a top seed for 82 games. When a team has nothing to prove they just coast and do just enough to have a mid-tier playoff spot so that they can turn it on in May.
Giving up 127 points to the Lakers is a clear sign of lack of effort for a team that has been a top level defensive team during their championship reign.
Coasting teams crank it up occasionally during national games and just go through the motions in normal or games against sub 500 teams.
The Dubs may be just coasting at this point, but some times the way they lose and its not even competitive..they look like they completely give up.
It will be extra tough to win for them this yr specially with a lot of the melodrama happening behind the scenes.
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Lakers killing the Warriors.
They look really good.
The Lakers are starting to look nice, but GS does not look fantastic
What's going on in GS? Just coasting I'd imagine?
I think it’s a mix of coasting, lack of depth and chemistry issues
Three years ago they broke the 72-10 record with a 73-9 season. Now they're 23-12 and it's just December. Perhaps a locker room problem?
I think it has more to do with a perennial finals team deciding to coast during the regular season. The KG era Celtics did this after the 2008 title. It takes a lot of energy to maintain the defensive effort and focus needed to be a top seed for 82 games. When a team has nothing to prove they just coast and do just enough to have a mid-tier playoff spot so that they can turn it on in May.
Giving up 127 points to the Lakers is a clear sign of lack of effort for a team that has been a top level defensive team during their championship reign.
Coasting teams crank it up occasionally during national games and just go through the motions in normal or games against sub 500 teams.
The Dubs may be just coasting at this point, but some times the way they lose and its not even competitive..they look like they completely give up.
It will be extra tough to win for them this yr specially with a lot of the melodrama happening behind the scenes.
Similar things were said about the Lakers of the 2011-12 season. That when they turn it on ain't nobody beating them 4 times. Then they got swept by the Mavs.
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Game of zones is back! 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdr_lE0nzWE
This was better than the game itself! I missed game of zones!
TP for posting this.
Fantastic episode again. We want more!
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We have a thread talking about Jeff Green - while we're speaking of ex-Celts - how about Rondo. Dude looks spry and as great as ever...
I don't mind having him back next year as a Rozier replacement.
I was praying Danny would find a way to get him back.
The Lakers are much more fun to watch when it’s Rondo running the show and not James.
He's pretty much the reason I'm watching the Lakers this season.
And he got hurt again :o
Add Rajon Rondo to the injured list. He is out with a Grade 3 sprain in his right ring finger. He will not travel to Sacramento, the Lakers say.
https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/1078123250364833792?s=21
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We have a thread talking about Jeff Green - while we're speaking of ex-Celts - how about Rondo. Dude looks spry and as great as ever...
I don't mind having him back next year as a Rozier replacement.
I was praying Danny would find a way to get him back.
The Lakers are much more fun to watch when it’s Rondo running the show and not James.
He's pretty much the reason I'm watching the Lakers this season.
And he got hurt again :o
Add Rajon Rondo to the injured list. He is out with a Grade 3 sprain in his right ring finger. He will not travel to Sacramento, the Lakers say.
https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/1078123250364833792?s=21
Was about to say...guy looks more durable than before - bigger, has a jumper, and seems to know how to fall better. But I guess not...
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Magic destroying Raptors by 30 after 3 quarters.
Raptors human.
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Magic destroying Raptors by 30 after 3 quarters.
Raptors human.
I mean even the Celtics beat them. ;)
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I'm not sure if we have a Nader Watch thread, but he's playing for OKC in a real dust-up with Phoenix right now. ;D
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Magic destroying Raptors by 30 after 3 quarters.
Raptors human.
I mean even the Celtics beat them. ;)
In defense of Celtics , i think the league is coming after Boston now as being one of the teams to beat . Celtics are getting the best game from every team now. The Celtics are the team with Kyrie and Hayward and expected to win. When your #1 everybody wants you . I think the raptor s with Kawhi are going to get this treatment too . Same as Celtics .
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To shed light on the "superstar" conversation that's always being had, Anthony Davis went for 48 points, 17 boards, 4 assists, 2 steals, and 2 blocks (with 1 turnover) on 63% shooting tonight.
And he puts up similar lines several times throughout the course of a season, year in and year out.
That's a superstar.
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Magic destroying Raptors by 30 after 3 quarters.
Raptors human.
Bucks are the new team to fear apparently. I don’t think anyone fears anyone in the league at the moment.
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I'm not sure if we have a Nader Watch thread, but he's playing for OKC in a real dust-up with Phoenix right now. ;D
I know I am probably the last Nader fan on this site, but he did put up 18/5 in 33 min tonight. Glad to see he did well with PG out tonight.
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Is Rick Carlisle an idiot or did his team just totally ignore him at the end of today's Pelican game? They did not even look at their clutch star Doncic at the end of the game. The refs robbed Mavericks in this one. Doncic was clearly fouled towards the end and the refs swallowed the whistle.
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Is Rick Carlisle an idiot or did his team just totally ignore him at the end of today's Pelican game? They did not even look at their clutch star Doncic at the end of the game. The refs robbed Mavericks in this one. Doncic was clearly fouled towards the end and the refs swallowed the whistle.
Doncic is still a rookie...But look out league because this guy is legit...man wished Danny found a way to nab him in the draft, would have been willing to sacrifice Brown, Rozier and the sac pick for him, I mean Brown and TRoz's value was at an all time high last summer.
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I'm not sure if we have a Nader Watch thread, but he's playing for OKC in a real dust-up with Phoenix right now. ;D
I know I am probably the last Nader fan on this site, but he did put up 18/5 in 33 min tonight. Glad to see he did well with PG out tonight.
What?..Nader put up astounding numbers better than our golden max player Hayward...that is blasphemous.
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Nikola Vucevic 30 points and 20 rebounds....who needs Anthony Davis ;D ;D ;D
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Nikola Vucevic 30 points and 20 rebounds....who needs Anthony Davis ;D ;D ;D
Me! He put up his fourth 48/17 game against the Mavs.
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amazing that after our poor play we still are only 4.5 games out of first.
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Nikola Vucevic 30 points and 20 rebounds....who needs Anthony Davis ;D ;D ;D
Me! He put up his fourth 48/17 game against the Mavs.
Scoring numbers across the board have been nuts this season, mostly because guys are basically no longer allowed to defend due to current NBA officiating,
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Nikola Vucevic 30 points and 20 rebounds....who needs Anthony Davis ;D ;D ;D
Me! He put up his fourth 48/17 game against the Mavs.
Scoring numbers across the board have been nuts this season, mostly because guys are basically no longer allowed to defend due to current NBA officiating,
No doubt, but I meant across his career. Davis has still dropped 40+ 6 times already this season, which is crazy. His scoring, rebounding and steal numbers have all increased, alongside a massive 2.3 assist per game increase (double what he averaged last season). Dude just won't stop improving.
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So the Bucks are pretty much the 1 seed in the East right now. Wow.
But yeah there's a 4.5 game gap between us (5 seed) and MIL (1 seed). We've got to find consistency. I'm not saying we have to beat every elite team in the schedule (though that'd be nice) but there are times we come out and look dominant against one team, then next game come out 100% flat. If we do that all season, then yeah we're finishing as a 4th or 5th seed. If we can improve on that, we're at least a 3 seed, probably even 2 seed.
Lot of time left in the season, but January will be a big month IMO. We're in a tough part of the schedule now but it'll ease up soon and we've got to take advantage again. I'm not concerned about the "we can't beat elite teams" notion because the truth is, we have beaten elite teams this season and we're capable of doing it (we've proven it). Problem is, we're just inconsistent on a game-by-game basis and play down to a lot of the bad/mediocre teams. Fortunately TOR/MIL haven't really run away with the East yet (TOR in particular has stumbled a bit lately) nor have IND/PHI increased the gap at the 3-4 seeds, so there's still a solid chance at a Top-2 seed.
I do think tonight is a must win though. Had a fantastic win against PHI, then came out flat against HOU. If we come out flat again and lose tonight, then I don't like where this season is going. The one great thing about last year's team was that even when they lost, they came back and rebounded in big ways. This year's team seems to have STRETCHES/PERIODS of bad play and that's not a good thing.
Injuries suck and they've especially hurt our depth at C, but as we saw in the PHI game if we put in effort and have confidence, good things will happen. None of that showed in the HOU game though.
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Nikola Vucevic 30 points and 20 rebounds....who needs Anthony Davis ;D ;D ;D
Me! He put up his fourth 48/17 game against the Mavs.
Scoring numbers across the board have been nuts this season, mostly because guys are basically no longer allowed to defend due to current NBA officiating,
sad for me ...i enjoy watching defensive effort . Kinda takes the heart out of old school players that believe in defense. Little kids want to see buckets , thats their entertainment. Appreciation of great defense is an adult thing mostly Offense is a TV rating draw for kids and occasional fans without much insight. True patrons of the game enjoy seeing defensive effort and intensity as well as dunks .
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So the Bucks are pretty much the 1 seed in the East right now. Wow.
But yeah there's a 4.5 game gap between us (5 seed) and MIL (1 seed). We've got to find consistency. I'm not saying we have to beat every elite team in the schedule (though that'd be nice) but there are times we come out and look dominant against one team, then next game come out 100% flat. If we do that all season, then yeah we're finishing as a 4th or 5th seed. If we can improve on that, we're at least a 3 seed, probably even 2 seed.
Lot of time left in the season, but January will be a big month IMO. We're in a tough part of the schedule now but it'll ease up soon and we've got to take advantage again. I'm not concerned about the "we can't beat elite teams" notion because the truth is, we have beaten elite teams this season and we're capable of doing it (we've proven it). Problem is, we're just inconsistent on a game-by-game basis and play down to a lot of the bad/mediocre teams. Fortunately TOR/MIL haven't really run away with the East yet (TOR in particular has stumbled a bit lately) nor have IND/PHI increased the gap at the 3-4 seeds, so there's still a solid chance at a Top-2 seed.
I do think tonight is a must win though. Had a fantastic win against PHI, then came out flat against HOU. If we come out flat again and lose tonight, then I don't like where this season is going. The one great thing about last year's team was that even when they lost, they came back and rebounded in big ways. This year's team seems to have STRETCHES/PERIODS of bad play and that's not a good thing.
Injuries suck and they've especially hurt our depth at C, but as we saw in the PHI game if we put in effort and have confidence, good things will happen. None of that showed in the HOU game though.
I don't think we came out flat against Houston or even had a bad game offensively. We were good there. The problem was hot shooting for Houston. Houston scored 70 points in the 2nd half. Some of that was defensive effort but some of that was terrific shooting over good defense as well.
Harden was 5-8 from three after one quarter and that's with four of those makes being with tight coverage and a contested shot. Harden went for 17 in the 1st. He ended up 9-18 from three. He usually only makes 4.5 threes a game. That extra 13.5 points he got just from made threes was the difference in the game.
Houston as a whole shoots only 34% from three. They went for 40% that night. 18-45 from three. That's where the C's lost the game. Some of that was defensive effort but more than some of that was knocking down shots even while being defended real good.
Against most of the rest of the league, Boston wins with the performance Boston had against Houston.
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https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/1079044370752516098
Beard x Brow
Don't miss @HoustonRockets vs. @PelicansNBA // 7pm ET on NBA TV!
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So the Bucks are pretty much the 1 seed in the East right now. Wow.
But yeah there's a 4.5 game gap between us (5 seed) and MIL (1 seed). We've got to find consistency. I'm not saying we have to beat every elite team in the schedule (though that'd be nice) but there are times we come out and look dominant against one team, then next game come out 100% flat. If we do that all season, then yeah we're finishing as a 4th or 5th seed. If we can improve on that, we're at least a 3 seed, probably even 2 seed.
Lot of time left in the season, but January will be a big month IMO. We're in a tough part of the schedule now but it'll ease up soon and we've got to take advantage again. I'm not concerned about the "we can't beat elite teams" notion because the truth is, we have beaten elite teams this season and we're capable of doing it (we've proven it). Problem is, we're just inconsistent on a game-by-game basis and play down to a lot of the bad/mediocre teams. Fortunately TOR/MIL haven't really run away with the East yet (TOR in particular has stumbled a bit lately) nor have IND/PHI increased the gap at the 3-4 seeds, so there's still a solid chance at a Top-2 seed.
I do think tonight is a must win though. Had a fantastic win against PHI, then came out flat against HOU. If we come out flat again and lose tonight, then I don't like where this season is going. The one great thing about last year's team was that even when they lost, they came back and rebounded in big ways. This year's team seems to have STRETCHES/PERIODS of bad play and that's not a good thing.
Injuries suck and they've especially hurt our depth at C, but as we saw in the PHI game if we put in effort and have confidence, good things will happen. None of that showed in the HOU game though.
I don't think we came out flat against Houston or even had a bad game offensively. We were good there. The problem was hot shooting for Houston. Houston scored 70 points in the 2nd half. Some of that was defensive effort but some of that was terrific shooting over good defense as well.
Harden was 5-8 from three after one quarter and that's with four of those makes being with tight coverage and a contested shot. Harden went for 17 in the 1st. He ended up 9-18 from three. He usually only makes 4.5 threes a game. That extra 13.5 points he got just from made threes was the difference in the game.
Houston as a whole shoots only 34% from three. They went for 40% that night. 18-45 from three. That's where the C's lost the game. Some of that was defensive effort but more than some of that was knocking down shots even while being defended real good.
Against most of the rest of the league, Boston wins with the performance Boston had against Houston.
Yeah Houston just had a phenomenal shooting night. Even Austin Freakin' Rivers was killing us.
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i might throw up
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Where was Faried all season? Injured?
Edit: Faried and Shabazz Napier combining for 50!
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The Denver Nuggets have waived guard Nick Young.
link (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1079445487554646016)
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Anyone noticed that Kelly O slimmed down like 20 lbs?
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No Embiid=
Losing to Portland by 40
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Yikes. Westbrook took 22 shots but scored only 9 points.
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Yikes. Westbrook took 22 shots but scored only 9 points.
60.5% FT shooter this year too, down from 73.7% last season and 84.5% in 16-17
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This is somewhat of a Celtics question but I figured I would keep it in the NBA 2018-19 season thread. How does everyone feel about the freedom of movement rules now that we are almost half way through the season? The eye test tells me that the changes have elevated non-superstars who rely on skill and shooting, while minimizing the need for athleticism. There is an endless number of players who are shooting 45% or higher from three. It's easier to penetrate with the new rules, which has led to better ball movement and more open looks.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this might be a reason for the Celtics bench struggles. We can't label Jaylen, Terry, or Gordon as being reliable shooters and/or highly skilled offensive players. Their shortcomings wouldn't have been exposed to the same degree under old rules, largely due to the fact that other teams would need to work harder to score.
Hopefully Gordon can regain his shooting form by the end of the season. We can wait until next year for the rest of his game to come together.
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Kawhi was like Michael Jordan tonight vs the Jazz jesus he scored 45 points without one three :blank:
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This is somewhat of a Celtics question but I figured I would keep it in the NBA 2018-19 season thread. How does everyone feel about the freedom of movement rules now that we are almost half way through the season? The eye test tells me that the changes have elevated non-superstars who rely on skill and shooting, while minimizing the need for athleticism. There is an endless number of players who are shooting 45% or higher from three. It's easier to penetrate with the new rules, which has led to better ball movement and more open looks.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this might be a reason for the Celtics bench struggles. We can't label Jaylen, Terry, or Gordon as being reliable shooters and/or highly skilled offensive players. Their shortcomings wouldn't have been exposed to the same degree under old rules, largely due to the fact that other teams would need to work harder to score.
Hopefully Gordon can regain his shooting form by the end of the season. We can wait until next year for the rest of his game to come together.
In my opinion, it's mostly because we've sunk so much money on Hayward. The rules benefit everyone in general on offense, not just shooters.
If we could use Hayward's money on role players, we'd have more depth. We are deceptively thin with Rozier underperforming too.
Hell, Jaylen with shooters would be a hell of a bench - he's like a bigger Westbrook, and with these weak rules, he could be cutting right through the defense. Right now our bench just kills any momentum we have when it comes in, since Gordo's shot is gone for some reason.
That said, the wait will be worth it with Hayward.
Edit: oh and our rotation has been hurt by injuries, too, with Baynes out and Horford on a minutes restriction.
Edit 2: Though, just based on my gut feeling, the increase in variance for bad teams in terms of scoring probably hurts us more than anything. We are a team that is struggling to reach its expected average, while weaker teams are experiencing higher highs.
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AB and Butler ejected LOL
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AB and Butler ejected LOL
What a joke. Bradly was incredulous for good reason. That was barely even a shove...
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Anybody see that Nurkic box score?
24 pts 23 Reb 7 ast 5 stl 5 BLK 16 fta
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Anybody see that Nurkic box score?
24 pts 23 Reb 7 ast 5 stl 5 BLK 16 fta
Rarely abundant 5x5 game.
21st ever.
https://nbahoopsonline.com/History/Records/5x5.html
Bravo to the Bosnian!
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AB and Butler ejected LOL
What a joke. Bradly was incredulous for good reason. That was barely even a shove...
It's was a nothing. Players from the 80's and 90's were tough. I keep thinking about what Bird would average in this no touch league. I can't see him averaging less than 40 points a game and going to the line 20 times a game were he shot over 90%.
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HOLY ****
Davis with 34 points and 26 rebounds :o :o :o
But Pelicans fall 126-121. He almost single handedly brought them back from a 20+ point deficit though.
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HOLY ****
Davis with 34 points and 26 rebounds :o :o :o
But Pelicans fall 126-121. He almost single handedly brought them back from a 20+ point deficit though.
Alright, package Kyrie, draft picks, and one or two role/depth players for Anthony Davis.
Kidding about Kyrie ;D
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
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HOLY ****
Davis with 34 points and 26 rebounds :o :o :o
But Pelicans fall 126-121. He almost single handedly brought them back from a 20+ point deficit though.
Alright, package Kyrie, draft picks, and one or two role/depth players for Anthony Davis.
Kidding about Kyrie ;D
You better be >:(
:laugh:
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
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HOLY ****
Davis with 34 points and 26 rebounds :o :o :o
But Pelicans fall 126-121. He almost single handedly brought them back from a 20+ point deficit though.
what an absolute nightmare to think of AD on the Lakers ... ugh :(
Danny save your pennies
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
Well you assumed wrong. As I've stated a number of times, I've been a Celtics fan since the Bird era. I've also stated a number of time that I'm a big Embiid fan which is why I follow the Sixers. Did you actually miss all my non-Sixers related posts on here? Did you miss that I use "we" when referring to the Celtics? Did you miss my lack of posts bashing the Celtics? Do you honestly think a Sixers fan would make 4000+ posts on a Celtics forum? The level of conversation on here just isn't that good.
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HOLY ****
Davis with 34 points and 26 rebounds :o :o :o
But Pelicans fall 126-121. He almost single handedly brought them back from a 20+ point deficit though.
what an absolute nightmare to think of AD on the Lakers ... ugh :(
Danny save your pennies
No reason to trade for AD if he really wants to be a Laker and ride Lebron's coattails.
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HOLY ****
Davis with 34 points and 26 rebounds :o :o :o
But Pelicans fall 126-121. He almost single handedly brought them back from a 20+ point deficit though.
what an absolute nightmare to think of AD on the Lakers ... ugh :(
Danny save your pennies
No reason to trade for AD if he really wants to be a Laker and ride Lebron's coattails.
TP.
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Paul George is playing with a mean streak this year that's fun to watch. Maybe OKC was a good fit for his growth... Flaws aside, Russ and Adams are definitely competitors too.
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
Well you assumed wrong. As I've stated a number of times, I've been a Celtics fan since the Bird era. I've also stated a number of time that I'm a big Embiid fan which is why I follow the Sixers. Did you actually miss all my non-Sixers related posts on here? Did you miss that I use "we" when referring to the Celtics? Did you miss my lack of posts bashing the Celtics? Do you honestly think a Sixers fan would make 4000+ posts on a Celtics forum? The level of conversation on here just isn't that good.
Sorry my man, nope, never noticed the pro Celtics stuff. Really only ever noticed your pro Sixer stuff. And over the years we have had a lot of posters that are fans of other teams and stay. Yes, many are fans of the Cs and other teams teams too. I remember this huge Laker fan who posted here for some time between 2008 and 2010. Nice guy and racked up a ton of posts.
I just never noticed you ever saying anything good about the Celtics and yet saw you defended the Sixers at every turn. So yeah, I just assumed you to be a Sixer fan. Sorry.
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Nader looking great for OKC right now
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Big D McGee back it with 4 blocks tonight. My fantasy team was missing him. He puts up some good stats when LeBron is not there stealing rebounds
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Davis with 34 points and 26 rebounds :o :o :o
But Pelicans fall 126-121.
lol Pels currently #7 on tankathon too.
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I’d love to see the Celtics bring in Noel
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Lakers are giving this game away. So sloppy. I like it
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
Well you assumed wrong. As I've stated a number of times, I've been a Celtics fan since the Bird era. I've also stated a number of time that I'm a big Embiid fan which is why I follow the Sixers. Did you actually miss all my non-Sixers related posts on here? Did you miss that I use "we" when referring to the Celtics? Did you miss my lack of posts bashing the Celtics? Do you honestly think a Sixers fan would make 4000+ posts on a Celtics forum? The level of conversation on here just isn't that good.
Sorry my man, nope, never noticed the pro Celtics stuff. Really only ever noticed your pro Sixer stuff. And over the years we have had a lot of posters that are fans of other teams and stay. Yes, many are fans of the Cs and other teams teams too. I remember this huge Laker fan who posted here for some time between 2008 and 2010. Nice guy and racked up a ton of posts.
I just never noticed you ever saying anything good about the Celtics and yet saw you defended the Sixers at every turn. So yeah, I just assumed you to be a Sixer fan. Sorry.
I was in the same boat a year or two back with tazz. Honestly thought he was a soxera fan for quite some time but then he did a post addressing it. Honest mistake
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
Well you assumed wrong. As I've stated a number of times, I've been a Celtics fan since the Bird era. I've also stated a number of time that I'm a big Embiid fan which is why I follow the Sixers. Did you actually miss all my non-Sixers related posts on here? Did you miss that I use "we" when referring to the Celtics? Did you miss my lack of posts bashing the Celtics? Do you honestly think a Sixers fan would make 4000+ posts on a Celtics forum? The level of conversation on here just isn't that good.
Sorry my man, nope, never noticed the pro Celtics stuff. Really only ever noticed your pro Sixer stuff. And over the years we have had a lot of posters that are fans of other teams and stay. Yes, many are fans of the Cs and other teams teams too. I remember this huge Laker fan who posted here for some time between 2008 and 2010. Nice guy and racked up a ton of posts.
I just never noticed you ever saying anything good about the Celtics and yet saw you defended the Sixers at every turn. So yeah, I just assumed you to be a Sixer fan. Sorry.
Yeah, he insisted he was a couple of times. I’m a believer that actions speak louder than words. I mean couldn’t I just join Liberty Ballers and talk only about the Celtics while saying I only do so because I really like Irving? Since he finds the level of conversation here “not that good” and he questions his “sanity” in even being this alleged C’s fan, why not just seek shelter in the aforementioned Sixers forum? I’m sure the 99% of his 4000 posts where, you know, he seems to be discussing the team he “doesn’t like” (cough, cough) would be really well received there.
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Westbrook had another 3-20 FGAs game.
God his shooting is dreadful this year.
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
Well you assumed wrong. As I've stated a number of times, I've been a Celtics fan since the Bird era. I've also stated a number of time that I'm a big Embiid fan which is why I follow the Sixers. Did you actually miss all my non-Sixers related posts on here? Did you miss that I use "we" when referring to the Celtics? Did you miss my lack of posts bashing the Celtics? Do you honestly think a Sixers fan would make 4000+ posts on a Celtics forum? The level of conversation on here just isn't that good.
Sorry my man, nope, never noticed the pro Celtics stuff. Really only ever noticed your pro Sixer stuff. And over the years we have had a lot of posters that are fans of other teams and stay. Yes, many are fans of the Cs and other teams teams too. I remember this huge Laker fan who posted here for some time between 2008 and 2010. Nice guy and racked up a ton of posts.
I just never noticed you ever saying anything good about the Celtics and yet saw you defended the Sixers at every turn. So yeah, I just assumed you to be a Sixer fan. Sorry.
Yeah, he insisted he was a couple of times. I’m a believer that actions speak louder than words. I mean couldn’t I just join Liberty Ballers and talk only about the Celtics while saying I only do so because I really like Irving? Since he finds the level of conversation here “not that good” and he questions his “sanity” in even being this alleged C’s fan, why not just seek shelter in the aforementioned Sixers forum? I’m sure the 99% of his 4000 posts where, you know, he seems to be discussing the team he “doesn’t like” (cough, cough) would be really well received there.
you know you can actually look this stuff up.
https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=55506
very little about the Sixers in there. Not all the other stuff is about the Celtics, but certainly a fair amount of Celtics related posts.
Just because you only stalk him in the Sixers threads, doesn't mean he doesn't post in the other ones.
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Westbrook had another 3-20 FGAs game.
God his shooting is dreadful this year.
Hayward could have done better ;)than that in the Spurs game where he layed an egg but was 0-6.
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
Well you assumed wrong. As I've stated a number of times, I've been a Celtics fan since the Bird era. I've also stated a number of time that I'm a big Embiid fan which is why I follow the Sixers. Did you actually miss all my non-Sixers related posts on here? Did you miss that I use "we" when referring to the Celtics? Did you miss my lack of posts bashing the Celtics? Do you honestly think a Sixers fan would make 4000+ posts on a Celtics forum? The level of conversation on here just isn't that good.
Sorry my man, nope, never noticed the pro Celtics stuff. Really only ever noticed your pro Sixer stuff. And over the years we have had a lot of posters that are fans of other teams and stay. Yes, many are fans of the Cs and other teams teams too. I remember this huge Laker fan who posted here for some time between 2008 and 2010. Nice guy and racked up a ton of posts.
I just never noticed you ever saying anything good about the Celtics and yet saw you defended the Sixers at every turn. So yeah, I just assumed you to be a Sixer fan. Sorry.
I was in the same boat a year or two back with tazz. Honestly thought he was a soxera fan for quite some time but then he did a post addressing it. Honest mistake
I technically joined in 2014 but didn't become a regular poster here until like 2016. But I was always a silent reader still and I had always thought LarBrd33 was a Sixers fan on here, or a fan of some team not named the Celtics. :P
Then he technically "retired" the first time after 20K posts (his last one - 20,000th - announcing it) and then I was like "oh wait he must be a diehard Celtics fan" after his long "last post" as well.
I still feel like he's a closet Sixers fan though lol and frankly I bet even the "newer generation" here thinks or thought at some point LarBrd was a true Sixers fan LOL.
Tazz has mentioned often though that he's a diehard Celtics fan. But yeah it can be hard to telling at times as sometimes there are real fans of other teams here/still here.
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Jaylen Is again sporting a bad FT% (65.5, up from 64.4 last year) but C’s biggest rival has two notable recently drafted players worse this season
Lonzo ball shot 45.1% from the line last year, 45% so far this year
Ingram is 62% this year on an average 5.1 attempts, 68.1% last year on 4.8 attempts per game
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Hearing audible boos for Kawhi in San Antonio, lol
Spurs giving TOR the business...tremendous defensive pressure.
I think they REALLY want this one for Demar.
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Hearing audible boos for Kawhi in San Antonio, lol
Spurs giving TOR the business...tremendous defensive pressure.
I think they REALLY want this one for Demar.
Wow already up 45-19 on the Raptors :o
And frankly I don't blame SAS fans. Kawhi pretty much quit on the Spurs for the season and in a way wasted their season (sort of like the LeVeon Bell saga with the Steelers in NFL). It also feels like he was a bit disrespectful to Pop and the organization all throughout last year with his injury updates and trade demands.
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Hearing audible boos for Kawhi in San Antonio, lol
Spurs giving TOR the business...tremendous defensive pressure.
I think they REALLY want this one for Demar.
Wow already up 45-19 on the Raptors :o
And frankly I don't blame SAS fans. Kawhi pretty much quit on the Spurs for the season and in a way wasted their season (sort of like the LeVeon Bell saga with the Steelers in NFL). It also feels like he was a bit disrespectful to Pop and the organization all throughout last year with his injury updates and trade demands.
The funny thing is that I can't imagine TOR fans booing Demar like this.
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Hearing audible boos for Kawhi in San Antonio, lol
Spurs giving TOR the business...tremendous defensive pressure.
I think they REALLY want this one for Demar.
Wow already up 45-19 on the Raptors :o
And frankly I don't blame SAS fans. Kawhi pretty much quit on the Spurs for the season and in a way wasted their season (sort of like the LeVeon Bell saga with the Steelers in NFL). It also feels like he was a bit disrespectful to Pop and the organization all throughout last year with his injury updates and trade demands.
The funny thing is that I can't imagine TOR fans booing Demar like this.
Why would they? Demar embraced that franchise and the city. He didn't want to leave.
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They’re still booing him and chanting Traitor
LOL
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Spurs playing some of the best ball in NBA right now. Feel a little less bad losing to them the other night.
Toronto misses Lowry.
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Spurs playing some of the best ball in NBA right now. Feel a little less bad losing to them the other night.
Toronto misses Lowry.
How are San Antonio so good, when their offense is fueled by mid-range shots!?
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Lowry is what makes the Raps go. He is a poor mans CP3 , mean streak and all.
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Hearing audible boos for Kawhi in San Antonio, lol
Spurs giving TOR the business...tremendous defensive pressure.
I think they REALLY want this one for Demar.
Wow already up 45-19 on the Raptors :o
And frankly I don't blame SAS fans. Kawhi pretty much quit on the Spurs for the season and in a way wasted their season (sort of like the LeVeon Bell saga with the Steelers in NFL). It also feels like he was a bit disrespectful to Pop and the organization all throughout last year with his injury updates and trade demands.
A lot of non Spurs fans are saying the Spurs are classless for booing Leonard who helped them win a championship. Gregg Popovich is one of the GOAT coaches. Leonard only hindered the Spurs during his last year when he opted not to play and tarnished their organization.
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The Kings just won't stop....
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Lowry is what makes the Raps go. He is a poor mans CP3 , mean streak and all.
i basically said that two weeks ago and got a lot of slack. they play better with him and w/o kawhi, than they do with kawhi and w/o kyle...at least as of now
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Nice!
Nuggets storm back then hold on late to beat the Kings 117-113 :)
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Nice!
Nuggets storm back then hold on late to beat the Kings 117-113 :)
Rebounding!
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Lol nba officiating is so suspect. The crowd, the bench, and Kerr were all steaming about Durant not getting a call on the other end, so of course when Harden went into the lane the next possession and drew significant contact, he got no call on a possession that he’d get a foul called for him on in 9 out of 10 other possessions. Durant then subsequently got an and-1 on the fastbteak ::)
It’s all just so arbitrary. (Not that I give a crap that Harden and Houston got the blunt end of that deal.)
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Lol nba officiating is so suspect. The crowd, the bench, and Kerr were all steaming about Durant not getting a call on the other end, so of course when Harden went into the lane the next possession and drew significant contact, he got no call on a possession that he’d get a foul called for him on in 9 out of 10 other possessions. Durant then subsequently got an and-1 on the fastbteak ::)
It’s all just so arbitrary. (Not that I give a crap that Harden and Houston got the blunt end of that deal.)
Going into overtime!
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The Rockets play the ugliest brand of basketball imaginable.
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The Rockets play the ugliest brand of basketball imaginable.
It's like watching a game of horse.
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The Rockets play the ugliest brand of basketball imaginable.
It's like watching a game of horse.
It really is terrible. All it is is iso three after iso three.
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The Rockets play the ugliest brand of basketball imaginable.
It's like watching a game of horse.
It really is terrible. All it is is iso three after iso three.
...and a ton of free throws...
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Durant clearly out of bounds and it's not called, crazy....
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Omg, NBA officiating is such a freaking joke. Durant is legitimately a full foot out of bounds with both feet on that save with no call lol So ridiculous.
Lol but somehow Harden just willed that ball into the basket for the win. Basketball gods punishing the Warriors for benefitting from officiating incompetence!
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Omg, NBA officiating is such a freaking joke. Durant is legitimately a full foot out of bounds with both feet on that save with no call lol So ridiculous.
Lol but somehow Harden just willed that ball into the basket for the win. Basketball gods punishing the Warriors for benefitting from officiating incompetence!
I think Harden just won the MVP!
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Harden > Durant
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Harden > Durant
Clutch. Capela had an enormous game too. Warriors are definitely beatable.
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Hardens gonna win another MVP.
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Hardens gonna win another MVP.
Right now it comes down to Harden and Giannis IMO. Kawhi has a chance if the Raptors finish with the best record in the NBA. The problem is that he has too many DNP's so far.
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
Well you assumed wrong. As I've stated a number of times, I've been a Celtics fan since the Bird era. I've also stated a number of time that I'm a big Embiid fan which is why I follow the Sixers. Did you actually miss all my non-Sixers related posts on here? Did you miss that I use "we" when referring to the Celtics? Did you miss my lack of posts bashing the Celtics? Do you honestly think a Sixers fan would make 4000+ posts on a Celtics forum? The level of conversation on here just isn't that good.
Sorry my man, nope, never noticed the pro Celtics stuff. Really only ever noticed your pro Sixer stuff. And over the years we have had a lot of posters that are fans of other teams and stay. Yes, many are fans of the Cs and other teams teams too. I remember this huge Laker fan who posted here for some time between 2008 and 2010. Nice guy and racked up a ton of posts.
I just never noticed you ever saying anything good about the Celtics and yet saw you defended the Sixers at every turn. So yeah, I just assumed you to be a Sixer fan. Sorry.
Yeah, he insisted he was a couple of times. I’m a believer that actions speak louder than words. I mean couldn’t I just join Liberty Ballers and talk only about the Celtics while saying I only do so because I really like Irving? Since he finds the level of conversation here “not that good” and he questions his “sanity” in even being this alleged C’s fan, why not just seek shelter in the aforementioned Sixers forum? I’m sure the 99% of his 4000 posts where, you know, he seems to be discussing the team he “doesn’t like” (cough, cough) would be really well received there.
you know you can actually look this stuff up.
https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=55506
very little about the Sixers in there. Not all the other stuff is about the Celtics, but certainly a fair amount of Celtics related posts.
Just because you only stalk him in the Sixers threads, doesn't mean he doesn't post in the other ones.
I've used that function before. Don't you remember I used it to point out that you hadn't said anything remotely positive about the C's in over a month? So considering how you and Tazz enjoy drooling over other teams, it's not in the least bit surprising that you would run to his defense. Birds of a feather...
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
Well you assumed wrong. As I've stated a number of times, I've been a Celtics fan since the Bird era. I've also stated a number of time that I'm a big Embiid fan which is why I follow the Sixers. Did you actually miss all my non-Sixers related posts on here? Did you miss that I use "we" when referring to the Celtics? Did you miss my lack of posts bashing the Celtics? Do you honestly think a Sixers fan would make 4000+ posts on a Celtics forum? The level of conversation on here just isn't that good.
Sorry my man, nope, never noticed the pro Celtics stuff. Really only ever noticed your pro Sixer stuff. And over the years we have had a lot of posters that are fans of other teams and stay. Yes, many are fans of the Cs and other teams teams too. I remember this huge Laker fan who posted here for some time between 2008 and 2010. Nice guy and racked up a ton of posts.
I just never noticed you ever saying anything good about the Celtics and yet saw you defended the Sixers at every turn. So yeah, I just assumed you to be a Sixer fan. Sorry.
No problem. I enjoy your posts and your politeness too.
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Embiid has 30pts/14rebs in the 1st half against the Suns. 14 of 16 from the line. Playing against Ayton and the Suns does a stat line good!!
In their win against the Clips, Embiid became the fastest Sixer to reach 3000 pts at the start of their career doing so in 130 games.
does that include the three or so years he spent on the bench? This is like giving Simmons rookie of the year in his second year.
That's nonsense. This is actual games played. The same for everyone. It is actually more impressive since it includes all the games where they were limiting his minutes.
Meh, its in essence the same as Simmons being ROY mr Sixers fan.
Only to the utterly clueless. The more I'm on here the more I question my sanity in being a Celtics fan.
Wait one moment....you're a Celtic fan? Not trying to question your fanhood. I always just assumed you were a polite Sixers fan that happened to like the site. Really did.
Well you assumed wrong. As I've stated a number of times, I've been a Celtics fan since the Bird era. I've also stated a number of time that I'm a big Embiid fan which is why I follow the Sixers. Did you actually miss all my non-Sixers related posts on here? Did you miss that I use "we" when referring to the Celtics? Did you miss my lack of posts bashing the Celtics? Do you honestly think a Sixers fan would make 4000+ posts on a Celtics forum? The level of conversation on here just isn't that good.
Sorry my man, nope, never noticed the pro Celtics stuff. Really only ever noticed your pro Sixer stuff. And over the years we have had a lot of posters that are fans of other teams and stay. Yes, many are fans of the Cs and other teams teams too. I remember this huge Laker fan who posted here for some time between 2008 and 2010. Nice guy and racked up a ton of posts.
I just never noticed you ever saying anything good about the Celtics and yet saw you defended the Sixers at every turn. So yeah, I just assumed you to be a Sixer fan. Sorry.
Yeah, he insisted he was a couple of times. I’m a believer that actions speak louder than words. I mean couldn’t I just join Liberty Ballers and talk only about the Celtics while saying I only do so because I really like Irving? Since he finds the level of conversation here “not that good” and he questions his “sanity” in even being this alleged C’s fan, why not just seek shelter in the aforementioned Sixers forum? I’m sure the 99% of his 4000 posts where, you know, he seems to be discussing the team he “doesn’t like” (cough, cough) would be really well received there.
you know you can actually look this stuff up.
https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=55506
very little about the Sixers in there. Not all the other stuff is about the Celtics, but certainly a fair amount of Celtics related posts.
Just because you only stalk him in the Sixers threads, doesn't mean he doesn't post in the other ones.
I've used that function before. Don't you remember I used it to point out that you hadn't said anything remotely positive about the C's in over a month? So considering how you and Tazz enjoy drooling over other teams, it's not in the least bit surprising that you would run to his defense. Birds of a feather...
With the good comes the bad. The site would be oh so much better if I could just filter out a couple posters.
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On TV, I only heard the Traitor chant during Kawhi FTs and then loud boos every time he touched the ball, but people at the game have posted online that other chants included Quitter and Uncle Dennis.
;D
Amusing playoff atmosphere
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Kris Dunn putting on a show
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Looks like crazy game in Chicago. Bulls just tied it again at the buzzer. Going to double OT
EDIT: I guess they didn't count the buzzer-beater. Indy wins.
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In a 144-112 Bucks win over the Hawks, no overtime, an incredible 20 players from both teams scored 8 or more points. 17 scored 9 or more points and 15 different players scored in double figures.
Strangely, not one player scored 20 or more points
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Warriors and Kings hit a total of 41 3-pointers tonight.
Buddy Hield with 32 points and 8 of 13 from the three. Crazy.
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Warriors and Kings hit a total of 41 3-pointers tonight.
Buddy Hield with 32 points and 8 of 13 from the three. Crazy.
Can you imagine if the Pels kept him, and also Nerlens Noel (who is apparently looking pretty decent on the Thunder right now)?
The optics of the whole situation would be so much different.
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Warriors and Kings hit a total of 41 3-pointers tonight.
Buddy Hield with 32 points and 8 of 13 from the three. Crazy.
Can you imagine if the Pels kept him, and also Nerlens Noel (who is apparently looking pretty decent on the Thunder right now)?
The optics of the whole situation would be so much different.
Pels would actually be one of the top forces in the West now. But I was actually on the "Draft Hield" wagon back in 2016.
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Interesting game between our toughest rivals this year, Toronto and Milwaukee. Seems like Raptors positional versatility prevailed and that goes in the direction I have been thinking about this whole year. Brook Lopez, Milwaukee's bigest difference from last year's team we have beaten, is fools gold. Even though his presence gives Giannis valuable extra space, and thier regular season offense flourishes with him on the floor. It looks like he won't be able to stay on the floor in games with high stakes. Having that on mind, IMO playoff basketball will ground them, and unfortunately for them and fortunately for us coach Bud doesn't have the track record of making lucid playoff adjustments.
Toronto is our biggest threat in the east.
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Interesting game between our toughest rivals this year, Toronto and Milwaukee. Seems like Raptors positional versatility prevailed and that goes in the direction I have been thinking about this whole year. Brook Lopez, Milwaukee's bigest difference from last year's team we have beaten, is fools gold. Even though his presence gives Giannis valuable extra space, and thier regular season offense flourishes with him on the floor. It looks like he won't be able to stay on the floor in games with high stakes. Having that on mind, IMO playoff basketball will ground them, and unfortunately for them and fortunately for us coach Bud doesn't have the track record of making lucid playoff adjustments.
Toronto is our biggest threat in the east.
Never took Milwaukee as serious threat as many do on here.
They lost at home to Toronto sans Lowry and JV. Of course just one game, but you know they were up for it. It does say something about them. I’m just not sure how far one-man shows (sure they have some good pieces but Middleton isn’t a second star) can go anymore.
They seem much easier to gameplan for in a series than Toronto.
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Interesting game between our toughest rivals this year, Toronto and Milwaukee. Seems like Raptors positional versatility prevailed and that goes in the direction I have been thinking about this whole year. Brook Lopez, Milwaukee's bigest difference from last year's team we have beaten, is fools gold. Even though his presence gives Giannis valuable extra space, and thier regular season offense flourishes with him on the floor. It looks like he won't be able to stay on the floor in games with high stakes. Having that on mind, IMO playoff basketball will ground them, and unfortunately for them and fortunately for us coach Bud doesn't have the track record of making lucid playoff adjustments.
Toronto is our biggest threat in the east.
Never took Milwaukee as serious threat as many do on here.
They lost at home to Toronto sans Lowry and JV. Of course just one game, but you know they were up for it. It does say something about them. I’m just not sure how far one-man shows (sure they have some good pieces but Middleton isn’t a second star) can go anymore.
They seem much easier to gameplan for in a series than Toronto.
I agree. Also IMO Toronto doesn't need JV at all. We have Baynes for him if needed, which I don't believe we will. And Vleet is not much of a drop-off behind Lowry, whose game usually slips after initial couple of months of the season. He is hungrier and more durable.
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The Rockets play the ugliest brand of basketball imaginable.
It's like watching a game of horse.
It really is terrible. All it is is iso three after iso three.
...and a ton of free throws...
yup watching Rockets basketball is brutal , i usually turn off , the announcer s are THE worst creeps of all,time.
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Interesting game between our toughest rivals this year, Toronto and Milwaukee. Seems like Raptors positional versatility prevailed and that goes in the direction I have been thinking about this whole year. Brook Lopez, Milwaukee's bigest difference from last year's team we have beaten, is fools gold. Even though his presence gives Giannis valuable extra space, and thier regular season offense flourishes with him on the floor. It looks like he won't be able to stay on the floor in games with high stakes. Having that on mind, IMO playoff basketball will ground them, and unfortunately for them and fortunately for us coach Bud doesn't have the track record of making lucid playoff adjustments.
Toronto is our biggest threat in the east.
Never took Milwaukee as serious threat as many do on here.
They lost at home to Toronto sans Lowry and JV. Of course just one game, but you know they were up for it. It does say something about them. I’m just not sure how far one-man shows (sure they have some good pieces but Middleton isn’t a second star) can go anymore.
They seem much easier to gameplan for in a series than Toronto.
I agree. Also IMO Toronto doesn't need JV at all. We have Baynes for him if needed, which I don't believe we will. And Vleet is not much of a drop-off behind Lowry, whose game usually slips after initial couple of months of the season. He is hungrier and more durable.
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I think Kawhi takes Toronto to the finals having the best player in the playoffs is huge and make no mistake Kawhi Leonard is the BEST player in the East, if he adds playing making to his game he's the best player in the world probably.
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Interesting game between our toughest rivals this year, Toronto and Milwaukee. Seems like Raptors positional versatility prevailed and that goes in the direction I have been thinking about this whole year. Brook Lopez, Milwaukee's bigest difference from last year's team we have beaten, is fools gold. Even though his presence gives Giannis valuable extra space, and thier regular season offense flourishes with him on the floor. It looks like he won't be able to stay on the floor in games with high stakes. Having that on mind, IMO playoff basketball will ground them, and unfortunately for them and fortunately for us coach Bud doesn't have the track record of making lucid playoff adjustments.
Toronto is our biggest threat in the east.
Never took Milwaukee as serious threat as many do on here.
They lost at home to Toronto sans Lowry and JV. Of course just one game, but you know they were up for it. It does say something about them. I’m just not sure how far one-man shows (sure they have some good pieces but Middleton isn’t a second star) can go anymore.
They seem much easier to gameplan for in a series than Toronto.
I agree. Also IMO Toronto doesn't need JV at all. We have Baynes for him if needed, which I don't believe we will. And Vleet is not much of a drop-off behind Lowry, whose game usually slips after initial couple of months of the season. He is hungrier and more durable.
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I think Kawhi takes Toronto to the finals having the best player in the playoffs is huge and make no mistake Kawhi Leonard is the BEST player in the East, if he adds playing making to his game he's the best player in the world probably.
Best player probably.
Finals, nah.
We will be in the finals when all is said and done.
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The thing about the Raps is there only have one player to worry about in crunch time.
I'm skeptical that they can go all the way to the Finals that way. Leonard is much harder to defend than DeRozan, but their problem is still that Lowry is not a major threar to score in crunch time.
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Lakers look lost without Lebron and Rondo.
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The thing about the Raps is there only have one player to worry about in crunch time.
I'm skeptical that they can go all the way to the Finals that way. Leonard is much harder to defend than DeRozan, but their problem is still that Lowry is not a major threar to score in crunch time.
I believe in proven Champions, Kawhi is a champion he was leading San Antonio to a game 1 victory against the Warriors last time we saw him in the post season and let's be real the East doesn't have any Champions except maybe Kyrie but like I don't count that because Kyrie has never been the best player on the team and led them to the finals.
Kawhi could win MVP and defensive player of the year this year if he continues that's greatness right there.
The only thing I wasn't sure of is what version of Kawhi Toronto was getting, but now we know they got the superstar finals MVP NBA champion defensive player of the year all NBA first team player they wanted.
Danny Green also hits big shots in the playoffs really an amazing trade for Toronto.
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Another L for the lakers... now in the 8th spot and lebron still out for a couple more games.
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Looking forward to Pacer-Raptor game. Should be telling.
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Another L for the lakers... now in the 8th spot and lebron still out for a couple more games.
They'll still probably make it, but right now they are 2 games back of the 7th seeded Blazers, Spurs, Rockets (who are all heating up), and the Jazz are also heating up and just a game behind them. I had predicted they'd finish the 5th or 6th seed in the West (which some people thought was crazy and that they'd be Top-3), but the gap between them and the GSW/DEN/OKC current Top-3 trio is just growing and LBJ is still out for some time.
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Is Kevin Love a dinosaur? I would like to see him on the rockets.
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Is Kevin Love a dinosaur? I would like to see him on the rockets.
Kevin Love is no longer a starting caliber player in the NBA. Heck, I'm not sure if Love is even that good of a bench player.
As much as centers have been downgraded in recent times, power forwards have had an even time of it. They are either (1) quick enough and athletic enough to matchup against the SFs that now frequently play at PF (2) big enough and athletic enough to matchup against center, or, (3) get phased out.
Kevin Love is in the third category. He simply cannot defend anyone at any position. His offensive game is good but it is more readily contained by the athletic SFs that defend him on the perimeter than the slow footed PFs who were less able perimeter defenders that Love feasted on 5 years ago. Love simply isn't good enough (dominant) on offense to justify his lousy defense anymore.
That means he needs to be sent to the bench. Permanently.
So yes, Love is a dinosaur.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2814507-their-futures-uncertain-kevin-love-cavs-may-be-stuck-with-each-other?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Is Kevin Love a dinosaur? I would like to see him on the rockets.
Kevin Love is no longer a starting caliber player in the NBA. Heck, I'm not sure if Love is even that good of a bench player.
As much as centers have been downgraded in recent times, power forwards have had an even time of it. They are either (1) quick enough and athletic enough to matchup against the SFs that now frequently play at PF (2) big enough and athletic enough to matchup against center, or, (3) get phased out.
Kevin Love is in the third category. He simply cannot defend anyone at any position. His offensive game is good but it is more readily contained by the athletic SFs that defend him on the perimeter than the slow footed PFs who were less able perimeter defenders that Love feasted on 5 years ago. Love simply isn't good enough (dominant) on offense to justify his lousy defense anymore.
That means he needs to be sent to the bench. Permanently.
So yes, Love is a dinosaur.
I feel like Chris bosh would be in the same boat as Kevin love because of this
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2814507-their-futures-uncertain-kevin-love-cavs-may-be-stuck-with-each-other?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Is Kevin Love a dinosaur? I would like to see him on the rockets.
Kevin Love is no longer a starting caliber player in the NBA. Heck, I'm not sure if Love is even that good of a bench player.
As much as centers have been downgraded in recent times, power forwards have had an even time of it. They are either (1) quick enough and athletic enough to matchup against the SFs that now frequently play at PF (2) big enough and athletic enough to matchup against center, or, (3) get phased out.
Kevin Love is in the third category. He simply cannot defend anyone at any position. His offensive game is good but it is more readily contained by the athletic SFs that defend him on the perimeter than the slow footed PFs who were less able perimeter defenders that Love feasted on 5 years ago. Love simply isn't good enough (dominant) on offense to justify his lousy defense anymore.
That means he needs to be sent to the bench. Permanently.
So yes, Love is a dinosaur.
An injury prone one with a very bad contract.
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Is Kevin Love a dinosaur? I would like to see him on the rockets.
Kevin Love is no longer a starting caliber player in the NBA. Heck, I'm not sure if Love is even that good of a bench player.
As much as centers have been downgraded in recent times, power forwards have had an even time of it. They are either (1) quick enough and athletic enough to matchup against the SFs that now frequently play at PF (2) big enough and athletic enough to matchup against center, or, (3) get phased out.
Kevin Love is in the third category. He simply cannot defend anyone at any position. His offensive game is good but it is more readily contained by the athletic SFs that defend him on the perimeter than the slow footed PFs who were less able perimeter defenders that Love feasted on 5 years ago. Love simply isn't good enough (dominant) on offense to justify his lousy defense anymore.
That means he needs to be sent to the bench. Permanently.
So yes, Love is a dinosaur.
An injury prone one with a very bad contract.
Only $30M/yr through the end of the 2022-23 season. I am still unsure of why CLE gave him that extension, but they have made a # of questionable contract decisions the past several years.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2814507-their-futures-uncertain-kevin-love-cavs-may-be-stuck-with-each-other?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Is Kevin Love a dinosaur? I would like to see him on the rockets.
Kevin Love is no longer a starting caliber player in the NBA. Heck, I'm not sure if Love is even that good of a bench player.
As much as centers have been downgraded in recent times, power forwards have had an even time of it. They are either (1) quick enough and athletic enough to matchup against the SFs that now frequently play at PF (2) big enough and athletic enough to matchup against center, or, (3) get phased out.
Kevin Love is in the third category. He simply cannot defend anyone at any position. His offensive game is good but it is more readily contained by the athletic SFs that defend him on the perimeter than the slow footed PFs who were less able perimeter defenders that Love feasted on 5 years ago. Love simply isn't good enough (dominant) on offense to justify his lousy defense anymore.
That means he needs to be sent to the bench. Permanently.
So yes, Love is a dinosaur.
An injury prone one with a very bad contract.
Only $30M/yr through the end of the 2022-23 season. I am still unsure of why CLE gave him that extension, but they have made a # of questionable contract decisions the past several years.
I feel like i remember reading speculation that they are hosting the all star game in the next few seasons and wanted to have an all star for it. Not sure if that is true. If it is, terrible reason for the contract.
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Speaking of Love, OJ Mayo’s playing in Taiwan now
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2814507-their-futures-uncertain-kevin-love-cavs-may-be-stuck-with-each-other?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Is Kevin Love a dinosaur? I would like to see him on the rockets.
Kevin Love is no longer a starting caliber player in the NBA. Heck, I'm not sure if Love is even that good of a bench player.
As much as centers have been downgraded in recent times, power forwards have had an even time of it. They are either (1) quick enough and athletic enough to matchup against the SFs that now frequently play at PF (2) big enough and athletic enough to matchup against center, or, (3) get phased out.
Kevin Love is in the third category. He simply cannot defend anyone at any position. His offensive game is good but it is more readily contained by the athletic SFs that defend him on the perimeter than the slow footed PFs who were less able perimeter defenders that Love feasted on 5 years ago. Love simply isn't good enough (dominant) on offense to justify his lousy defense anymore.
That means he needs to be sent to the bench. Permanently.
So yes, Love is a dinosaur.
An injury prone one with a very bad contract.
Only $30M/yr through the end of the 2022-23 season. I am still unsure of why CLE gave him that extension, but they have made a # of questionable contract decisions the past several years.
I feel like i remember reading speculation that they are hosting the all star game in the next few seasons and wanted to have an all star for it. Not sure if that is true. If it is, terrible reason for the contract.
They wanted an Allstar to dole out for their new renovated Quicken Loans arena. But agree, still a dumb decision.
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Nerlens Noel taking a hard hit to the head. Looks serious.
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Nerlens Noel taking a hard hit to the head. Looks serious.
He looked unconscious for a bit. Scary.
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Come on Phoenix!
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Oubre is a solid, scrappy player. I've always liked him coming out of college, even in his crazy, Kelly-on-Kelly crime days in Washington. ;D
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Oubre is a solid, scrappy player. I've always liked him coming out of college, even in his crazy, Kelly-on-Kelly crime days in Washington. ;D
And he puts the game away with the tip slam, helping us out and beating the Kings!
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Anyone see the T-wolves celebrating like they just won the title?
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tim hardaway looks really hurt
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Nerlens Noel just suffered a serious head injury. Let's keep him in our thoughts.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProBBallLive/status/1082831874949492737?s=19
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Oubre is a solid, scrappy player. I've always liked him coming out of college, even in his crazy, Kelly-on-Kelly crime days in Washington. ;D
That trade was not a good one for Washington...
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Nerlens Noel just suffered a serious head injury. Let's keep him in our thoughts.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProBBallLive/status/1082831874949492737?s=19
I don't know what they can do to stop people leading with elbows into dunks. It's kinda the most natural way to do it.
Just super unlucky - looked like he was almost knocked out from the initial elbow and then just came down 10 feet virtually out cold to hit the hardwood.
Fingers crossed he is OK. Just when Nerlens was starting to put it all together too.
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Nerlens Noel just suffered a serious head injury. Let's keep him in our thoughts.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProBBallLive/status/1082831874949492737?s=19
Ouch.
It looks like the elbow may have knocked him out before he cracked him temple against the floor. He literally did nothing to brace the fall.
Definitely one of the more severe concussions you’re gonna see in basketball. Hopefully he’s ok and the symptoms don’t keep him out terribly long.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2814507-their-futures-uncertain-kevin-love-cavs-may-be-stuck-with-each-other?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Is Kevin Love a dinosaur? I would like to see him on the rockets.
Kevin Love is no longer a starting caliber player in the NBA. Heck, I'm not sure if Love is even that good of a bench player.
As much as centers have been downgraded in recent times, power forwards have had an even time of it. They are either (1) quick enough and athletic enough to matchup against the SFs that now frequently play at PF (2) big enough and athletic enough to matchup against center, or, (3) get phased out.
Kevin Love is in the third category. He simply cannot defend anyone at any position. His offensive game is good but it is more readily contained by the athletic SFs that defend him on the perimeter than the slow footed PFs who were less able perimeter defenders that Love feasted on 5 years ago. Love simply isn't good enough (dominant) on offense to justify his lousy defense anymore.
That means he needs to be sent to the bench. Permanently.
So yes, Love is a dinosaur.
I feel like Chris bosh would be in the same boat as Kevin love because of this
Bosh played good D.
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So Flip's son in the Wolves new coach. that's pretty cool, good luck to him.
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Houston is perhaps the most boring offence in the entire league.
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Houston is perhaps the most boring offence in the entire league.
I know it’s awful. They should have won that game.
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Houston is perhaps the most boring offence in the entire league.
I know it’s awful. They should have won that game.
James Harden being perhaps the laziest defender in the league (only rivaled by LeBron) really hurts them. He let Brogdon murder them just getting easy layups
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Luka just needs to start making his FTs now to regularly put up ridiculous lines.
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Houston is perhaps the most boring offence in the entire league.
I know it’s awful. They should have won that game.
James Harden being perhaps the laziest defender in the league (only rivaled by LeBron) really hurts them. He let Brogdon murder them just getting easy layups
He didn't defend that Giannis pass to his face very well either :D
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Kuzma is the only pick that the Lakers got a really good player out of all those top picks....
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Anyone watching this crazy game? 2OT.
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Finally. Rematch Sat!
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The Thunder went 15 of 35 from 3 but the Spurs went 16 of 19.
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The Thunder went 15 of 35 from 3 but the Spurs went 16 of 19.
and the Spurs BENCH went 12 for 13 from 3. Has that ever happened? WOW.
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This might have been the best game of the season. Amazing play overall by both teams.
Westbrook/Ferguson/George/Grant/Adams is probably the best starting 5 in the league. OKC's problem is that they don't have a bench. While the Spurs always get guys hitting shots. Incredible what Popovich is doing again with a not that special roster, still the best coach in the league.
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Wiz just beat Bucks. No G F. Sore hip.
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Wiz just beat Bucks. No G F. Sore hip.
Hawks just beat the Sixers without Embiid also! Not bad after last night’s loss to see a couple teams in front of us lose also.
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Some really bad calls down the stretch in the Wiz/Raps game.
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I wonder how close Washington were to trading Beal - and everyone else. Knowing how stupid that organization is, I doubt they knew he was this good.
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Wiz just beat Bucks. No G F. Sore hip.
Hawks just beat the Sixers without Embiid also! Not bad after last night’s loss to see a couple teams in front of us lose also.
I don’t think we’re going up or down in the standings .
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Magic won against the Rockets 116-109. :P
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Okay. Now I don't feel as bad about yesterday's loss.
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Ben Simmons with 20 points, 22 rebounds, and 9 assists tonight. Only the fifth guard to ever pull down at least 22 boards (Jerry West, Fat Lever, Oscar Robertson and Tom Gola). Fun stuff.
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Ben Simmons with 20 points, 22 rebounds, and 9 assists tonight. Only the fifth guard to ever pull down at least 22 boards (Jerry West, Fat Lever, Oscar Robertson and Tom Gola). Fun stuff.
Find it funny that Simmons and Magic Johnson are deemed point guards but two guys that were equally big, equally as good at passing the ball and basically was the ball handler for his team, Lebron James and Larry Bird were considered small forwards
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Ben Simmons with 20 points, 22 rebounds, and 9 assists tonight. Only the fifth guard to ever pull down at least 22 boards (Jerry West, Fat Lever, Oscar Robertson and Tom Gola). Fun stuff.
Find it funny that Simmons and Magic Johnson are deemed point guards but two guys that were equally big, equally as good at passing the ball and basically was the ball handler for his team, Lebron James and Larry Bird were considered small forwards
Good point, both have served the primary functions of a PG. But caveat aside, 20+ rebounds for anyone not living inside the paint is pretty impressive.
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Capela out 4-6 weeks
Kyle Anderson 2-4 weeks
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Capela out 4-6 weeks
Kyle Anderson 2-4 weeks
What bigs do they have left? Nene??
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Capela out 4-6 weeks
Kyle Anderson 2-4 weeks
What bigs do they have left? Nene??
Nene and Chriss
Hartenstein recalled from G League
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Capela out 4-6 weeks
Kyle Anderson 2-4 weeks
What bigs do they have left? Nene??
Nene and Chriss
Hartenstein recalled from G League
Jeesh, that’s a terrible big man rotation. Makes me feel better about our injuries a bit
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Capela out 4-6 weeks
Kyle Anderson 2-4 weeks
What bigs do they have left? Nene??
Nene and Chriss
Hartenstein recalled from G League
Jeesh, that’s a terrible big man rotation. Makes me feel better about our injuries a bit
Yes, Houston is in trouble now and the fans realize this.
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they should suit up carmelo now!
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Capela out 4-6 weeks
Kyle Anderson 2-4 weeks
What bigs do they have left? Nene??
Nene and Chriss
Hartenstein recalled from G League
Jeesh, that’s a terrible big man rotation. Makes me feel better about our injuries a bit
they could use a Time Lord right now
they should suit up carmelo now!
true lol
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Unfortunately for us, IND/MIL/TOR have all heated up lately. We're still within reach of the 3 seed (IND) as we're 3 games back, but it seems like MIL and TOR may actually start pulling away with the Top-2 seeds. Hopefully the C's can actually start to pick it up soon.
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WOW! Harden with 58/10/6 so far.
Nets currently up 143-142 in OT.
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WOW! Harden with 58/10/6 so far.
Nets currently up 143-142 in OT.
Harden putting up cartoon numbers, but I love that Jarrett Allen keeps blocking star players
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WOW! Harden with 58/10/6 so far.
Nets currently up 143-142 in OT.
Harden putting up cartoon numbers, but I love that Jarrett Allen keeps blocking star players
LOL yep. And Rockets lose.
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Nets just beat the Rockets...
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I don’t know what was crazier, another ridiculous Harden game or Nets coming back from down 8 with 1:09 to go.
Dinwiddie with 9 points in 18 seconds of game clock... crazy.
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If you had told me in 2016 that halfway through 2019, brooklyn would be 3 games behind us...
With two second round white dudes playing like All-stars...
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I don’t know what was crazier, another ridiculous Harden game or Nets coming back from down 8 with 1:09 to go.
Dinwiddie with 9 points in 18 seconds of game clock... crazy.
Rockets took 70 3-Point attempts in the game :o
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Ignoring Curry scorching NOP, because that isn’t really noteworthy, but man this GSW defence is average. Not good, but not bad. That’s their weakness this year.
No elite defender at the 5 is hurting them a lot
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Anthony Davis hurt
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anyone watching this philly and indy game? it is a good game so far, but seems a bit crazy the 76ers are playing embid he looks like he is in agony from a back injury on the sideline. Seems crazy for a January regular season game.
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anyone watching this philly and indy game? it is a good game so far, but seems a bit crazy the 76ers are playing embid he looks like he is in agony from a back injury on the sideline. Seems crazy for a January regular season game.
Lol charles barkley just called them the stupidest organization in the NBA for this...
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they should suit up carmelo now!
oh ....the one they will bury him in ;)
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anyone watching this philly and indy game? it is a good game so far, but seems a bit crazy the 76ers are playing embid he looks like he is in agony from a back injury on the sideline. Seems crazy for a January regular season game.
Lol charles barkley just called them the stupidest organization in the NBA for this...
He was questionable for back tightness. Did anything actually happen during the game?
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he can't be too hurt , he just took a vicious spill heading full blast down court . He got up and went back to work. I thought he was done for on that one. He must be pretty rugged now
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anyone watching this philly and indy game? it is a good game so far, but seems a bit crazy the 76ers are playing embid he looks like he is in agony from a back injury on the sideline. Seems crazy for a January regular season game.
Lol charles barkley just called them the stupidest organization in the NBA for this...
He was questionable for back tightness. Did anything actually happen during the game?
He has been grimacing and laying down on the sideline looking to be in pain throughout the game. He also did take a pretty nasty spill at one point, but has gotten back up and been playing after it. It has reminded me a lot of the time they played him in a nationally televised game against houston when he was already having an injured knee that would put him out the rest of the season.
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Westbrook really is a trash player to have in close games late in the game. He went 1-9 or something in the 4th while PG took maybe 1 shot.
If Westbrook was swapped with a point guard similarly rated like Dame or Kyrie I believe OKC would be one of the best teams in the league. Instead they’re repeatedly worse than they should be, and I believe the fault is Westbrook’s
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Kyle Kuzma is pretty good. Like, legit very good.
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Kyle Kuzma is pretty good. Like, legit very good.
Better than all the Celtics young players combined! ;)
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Westbrook really is a trash player to have in close games late in the game. He went 1-9 or something in the 4th while PG took maybe 1 shot.
If Westbrook was swapped with a point guard similarly rated like Dame or Kyrie I believe OKC would be one of the best teams in the league. Instead they’re repeatedly worse than they should be, and I believe the fault is Westbrook’s
26 pts on 30 shots. Is anyone more overrated than Westbrook?
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Westbrook really is a trash player to have in close games late in the game. He went 1-9 or something in the 4th while PG took maybe 1 shot.
If Westbrook was swapped with a point guard similarly rated like Dame or Kyrie I believe OKC would be one of the best teams in the league. Instead they’re repeatedly worse than they should be, and I believe the fault is Westbrook’s
26 pts on 30 shots. Is anyone more overrated than Westbrook?
Not that I can think of. He really hurts his teams efforts to win.
Kyle Kuzma is pretty good. Like, legit very good.
Better than all the Celtics young players combined! ;)
If Tatum or Brown took 6 3PA on 29% shooting they'd be chased out of town!!
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Westbrook really is a trash player to have in close games late in the game. He went 1-9 or something in the 4th while PG took maybe 1 shot.
If Westbrook was swapped with a point guard similarly rated like Dame or Kyrie I believe OKC would be one of the best teams in the league. Instead they’re repeatedly worse than they should be, and I believe the fault is Westbrook’s
26 pts on 30 shots. Is anyone more overrated than Westbrook?
He is the most selfish player ever to average 10 APG.
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Westbrook really is a trash player to have in close games late in the game. He went 1-9 or something in the 4th while PG took maybe 1 shot.
If Westbrook was swapped with a point guard similarly rated like Dame or Kyrie I believe OKC would be one of the best teams in the league. Instead they’re repeatedly worse than they should be, and I believe the fault is Westbrook’s
I have been saying this for years. Westbrook (was) a top 5 player for 3 quarters, but in the 4th he's absolutely unplayable. He just never learned. His play during closing minutes against the Warriors in that famous comeback by the latter was the reason that Durant left him.
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Westbrook really is a trash player to have in close games late in the game. He went 1-9 or something in the 4th while PG took maybe 1 shot.
If Westbrook was swapped with a point guard similarly rated like Dame or Kyrie I believe OKC would be one of the best teams in the league. Instead they’re repeatedly worse than they should be, and I believe the fault is Westbrook’s
I have been saying this for years. Westbrook (was) a top 5 player for 3 quarters, but in the 4th he's absolutely unplayable. He just never learned. His play during closing minutes against the Warriors in that famous comeback by the latter was the reason that Durant left him.
Completely agree. He absolutely froze out PG in a similar manner to how he used to occasionally freeze out KD.
It sucks, because I like George and Adams alongside gritty guys like Grant, but I can't see them winning with Westbrook
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I got the impression he was doing a better job deferring to George this year, is that not true?
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I got the impression he was doing a better job deferring to George this year, is that not true?
For the most part he has gotten slightly better, but he's still a terrible ball-hog. And it's no coincidence that when he shoots a lot they lose. In fact, in the 20 games where he has 20+ FGA they've only won 8, including games against weak teams like Charlotte and Phoenix.
He just kills his team when he looks to shoot
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Got bad news for everyone. Cousins looks like he hasn't lost any athleticism.
Still think that I'd rather watch the Warriors throw the ball to Cousins in the post than any other offensive option, but he looks pretty good.
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Got bad news for everyone. Cousins looks like he hasn't lost any athleticism.
Still think that I'd rather watch the Warriors throw the ball to Cousins in the post than any other offensive option, but he looks pretty good.
At least he got 2 fouls quickly, I guess ...
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Nets are fun
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A true death lineup for the Warriors
Curry/Thompson/Durant/Green/Cousins. Five all-star players lol.
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Got bad news for everyone. Cousins looks like he hasn't lost any athleticism.
Still think that I'd rather watch the Warriors throw the ball to Cousins in the post than any other offensive option, but he looks pretty good.
Even if his athleticism remains the same, as long as his brain does as well, we need not be worried.
Guy is a stupid player.
He’s got great players around him, but if anyone can find a way to mess it up, it’ll be him.
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A true death lineup for the Warriors
Curry/Thompson/Durant/Green/Cousins. Five all-star players lol.
Best lineup in NBA history? (assuming Boogie returns to his old self)
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A true death lineup for the Warriors
Curry/Thompson/Durant/Green/Cousins. Five all-star players lol.
Best lineup in NBA history? (assuming Boogie returns to his old self)
In terms of individual talent, it’s definitley up there. In terms of would I back this lineup over any in NBA history - no
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Was watching the Warriors-Clips game and Harris and SGA were killing it for the Clips.
To all you guys wanting the C's to trade Kyrie:
Harris + SGA + Jerome Robinson (#14 last June) + renounce protections on their pick this year for Kyrie + Bird + Yabu
Would you do it? :P
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Clippers are now safely returned to Earth. ::)
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A true death lineup for the Warriors
Curry/Thompson/Durant/Green/Cousins. Five all-star players lol.
Best lineup in NBA history? (assuming Boogie returns to his old self)
In terms of individual talent, it’s definitley up there. In terms of would I back this lineup over any in NBA history - no
Agreed. Though this Warriors team will be far more dangerous than they already are once Boogie returns to his old self.
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A true death lineup for the Warriors
Curry/Thompson/Durant/Green/Cousins. Five all-star players lol.
Best lineup in NBA history? (assuming Boogie returns to his old self)
The thing is, he’s not going to be his “old self” because he’s going to be at 1/2 to 1/3 his usage that he was previously, let alone playing time.
And call me a pessimist, but I don’t see Cousins being fine with that long-term. With his history of immaturity and him wanting to highlight himself for another big contract, I sincerely don’t see him “playing nice” the rest of the season and playoffs when he realizes the extent of his limited touches and playing time, which is not only counter to his preferences but also his entire NBA history.
We’ve seen with young, immature guys on our own team how that works out. I’m also keen to see how Green and Cousins coexist with how volatile they are. We’ll get a good look up close next Saturday!
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Was watching the Warriors-Clips game and Harris and SGA were killing it for the Clips.
To all you guys wanting the C's to trade Kyrie:
Harris + SGA + Jerome Robinson (#14 last June) + renounce protections on their pick this year for Kyrie + Bird + Yabu
Would you do it? :P
I think the C's almost traded FOR Tobias Harris a couple years ago
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A true death lineup for the Warriors
Curry/Thompson/Durant/Green/Cousins. Five all-star players lol.
Best lineup in NBA history? (assuming Boogie returns to his old self)
The thing is, he’s not going to be his “old self” because he’s going to be at 1/2 to 1/3 his usage that he was previously, let alone playing time.
And call me a pessimist, but I don’t see Cousins being fine with that long-term. With his history of immaturity and him wanting to highlight himself for another big contract, I sincerely don’t see him “playing nice” the rest of the season and playoffs when he realizes the extent of his limited touches and playing time, which is not only counter to his preferences but also his entire NBA history.
We’ve seen with young, immature guys on our own team how that works out. I’m also keen to see how Green and Cousins coexist with how volatile they are. We’ll get a good look up close next Saturday!
And I think it's telling that no NBA team wanted to give Cousins a substantial offer this season. It tells me GM's around the league think he's not going to come close to his old self this season.
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Not all that impressed with either Philly or OKC as I watched the 4th quarter today. Paul George is a guy I'd love to have -- Russell Westbrook is not. Simmons game is generally very impressive, but his lack of a shot (as many have pointed out) really hurts him (if that shot develops, he'll be great.
Dumb foul by Westbrook to put Embiid on the line for 3 FTs to tie it with 15 seconds left. Embiid ties it. Then Shroeder throws it away to Butler to hand Philly the lead. An OKC embarrassment. Then George gets 4 point play to win it (if he missed the shot, he would have been able to win it at the line) -- a Philly embarrassment.
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Not all that impressed with either Philly or OKC as I watched the 4th quarter today. Paul George is a guy I'd love to have -- Russell Westbrook is not. Simmons game is generally very impressive, but his lack of a shot (as many have pointed out) really hurts him (if that shot develops, he'll be great.
Dumb foul by Westbrook to put Embiid on the line for 3 FTs to tie it with 15 seconds left. Embiid ties it. Then Shroeder throws it away to Butler to hand Philly the lead. An OKC embarrassment. Then George gets 4 point play to win it (if he missed the shot, he would have been able to win it at the line) -- a Philly embarrassment.
Schroder and Westbrook trying to out bonehead one another down the stretch was hilarious.
PG and Adams are really good players though
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Not all that impressed with either Philly or OKC as I watched the 4th quarter today. Paul George is a guy I'd love to have -- Russell Westbrook is not. Simmons game is generally very impressive, but his lack of a shot (as many have pointed out) really hurts him (if that shot develops, he'll be great.
Dumb foul by Westbrook to put Embiid on the line for 3 FTs to tie it with 15 seconds left. Embiid ties it. Then Shroeder throws it away to Butler to hand Philly the lead. An OKC embarrassment. Then George gets 4 point play to win it (if he missed the shot, he would have been able to win it at the line) -- a Philly embarrassment.
Schroder and Westbrook trying to out bonehead one another down the stretch was hilarious.
PG and Adams are really good players though
Simmons not being able to shoot killed them on that last possession. He got the ball and raced down the court and they gave him an open three. He looked like he thought about it for a second and then hit potatoed it to a double covered butler who had no shot.
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Not all that impressed with either Philly or OKC as I watched the 4th quarter today. Paul George is a guy I'd love to have -- Russell Westbrook is not. Simmons game is generally very impressive, but his lack of a shot (as many have pointed out) really hurts him (if that shot develops, he'll be great.
Dumb foul by Westbrook to put Embiid on the line for 3 FTs to tie it with 15 seconds left. Embiid ties it. Then Shroeder throws it away to Butler to hand Philly the lead. An OKC embarrassment. Then George gets 4 point play to win it (if he missed the shot, he would have been able to win it at the line) -- a Philly embarrassment.
Schroder and Westbrook trying to out bonehead one another down the stretch was hilarious.
PG and Adams are really good players though
I love watching Adams play. He's that guy who doesn't get intimidated, just goes out there and does his job and does it really well. Also brings the effort for sure.
I'm honestly not really a fan of Westbrook's style, just like Harden. He's got freakish athleticism but I feel he relies on it a little too much and it makes him real erratic out there. I feel George is the better overall player on this OKC team.
And yeah Simmons yet again proving he's a liability in the 4th quarter of a close game. They went Hack-a-Simmons and it mostly worked, and in the final possession of the game, the mistake they made was having Simmons bring the ball up with 5 seconds left. Then it forced Butler with just 1-2 seconds to hoist up a low percentage long 3, which he probably didn't expect but Simmons obviously wasn't taking the shot and he just handed it to Butler there who then got doubled.
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Not all that impressed with either Philly or OKC as I watched the 4th quarter today. Paul George is a guy I'd love to have -- Russell Westbrook is not. Simmons game is generally very impressive, but his lack of a shot (as many have pointed out) really hurts him (if that shot develops, he'll be great.
Dumb foul by Westbrook to put Embiid on the line for 3 FTs to tie it with 15 seconds left. Embiid ties it. Then Shroeder throws it away to Butler to hand Philly the lead. An OKC embarrassment. Then George gets 4 point play to win it (if he missed the shot, he would have been able to win it at the line) -- a Philly embarrassment.
Schroder and Westbrook trying to out bonehead one another down the stretch was hilarious.
PG and Adams are really good players though
Simmons not being able to shoot killed them on that last possession. He got the ball and raced down the court and they gave him an open three. He looked like he thought about it for a second and then hit potatoed it to a double covered butler who had no shot.
I just went into detail about this in the "All Things Philly"thread. Philly needs a superstar that wants to take that shot not panic because he knows he can't do a thing to help his team win. It was embarrassing to watch Simmons do that then just stand right next to Butler instead of moving away and creating space for him.
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Not all that impressed with either Philly or OKC as I watched the 4th quarter today. Paul George is a guy I'd love to have -- Russell Westbrook is not. Simmons game is generally very impressive, but his lack of a shot (as many have pointed out) really hurts him (if that shot develops, he'll be great.
Dumb foul by Westbrook to put Embiid on the line for 3 FTs to tie it with 15 seconds left. Embiid ties it. Then Shroeder throws it away to Butler to hand Philly the lead. An OKC embarrassment. Then George gets 4 point play to win it (if he missed the shot, he would have been able to win it at the line) -- a Philly embarrassment.
Schroder and Westbrook trying to out bonehead one another down the stretch was hilarious.
PG and Adams are really good players though
Simmons not being able to shoot killed them on that last possession. He got the ball and raced down the court and they gave him an open three. He looked like he thought about it for a second and then hit potatoed it to a double covered butler who had no shot.
I just went into detail about this in the "All Things Philly"thread. Philly needs a superstar that wants to take that shot not panic because he knows he can't do a thing to help his team win. It was embarrassing to watch Simmons do that then just stand right next to Butler instead of moving away and creating space for him.
Yup, completely agree. He's such a non factor from 3, it's crazy. In general his entire game has barely changed during his time in the NBA
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Is James Harden just mega-Antoine Walker? Lol.
3 is more than 2!
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Is James Harden just mega-Antoine Walker? Lol.
3 is more than 2!
Absolutely. I could easily see Harden never taking a 3 pointer if there was such a thing as a 4 pointer. Just like Toine.
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Is James Harden just mega-Antoine Walker? Lol.
3 is more than 2!
Absolutely. I could easily see Harden never taking a 3 pointer if there was such a thing as a 4 pointer. Just like Toine.
Man that would be a truly horrible spectacle. Launching 4’s and going to the line 20 times a game
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Lakers are doing pretty well without LeBron and Rondo in Houston.
Kyle Kuzma a stud.
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Is James Harden just mega-Antoine Walker? Lol.
3 is more than 2!
Antoine Walker is pokemon?!
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Can the Lakers complete the choke job?
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Can the Lakers complete the choke job?
Always trust the Fakers
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
agreed, unless AD demands out and would extend with Philly if they trade simmons...AD/Butler/Embid would be a better fit
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
it's ok they have The superstar Fultz
Oh wait lol
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
And for all the people who declared that "the Process is over, and it was a success," Philly might not even make it out of the first round this year.
2 really good teams are going to end up in that 4/5 slot, right now it's Philly/Boston.
1 really good from the Eastern Conference is going home in the first round. This must be what I felt like to play in the Western Conference for the last 15-20 years lol.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
And for all the people who declared that "the Process is over, and it was a success," Philly might not even make it out of the first round this year.
2 really good teams are going to end up in that 4/5 slot, right now it's Philly/Boston.
1 really good from the Eastern Conference is going home in the first round. This must be what I felt like to play in the Western Conference for the last 15-20 years lol.
I think we're the worst match up for the Sixers. I think they are also the team that needs home court the most out of the 5. The 6th through 8th teams aren't good so it isn't really like the West.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
And for all the people who declared that "the Process is over, and it was a success," Philly might not even make it out of the first round this year.
2 really good teams are going to end up in that 4/5 slot, right now it's Philly/Boston.
1 really good from the Eastern Conference is going home in the first round. This must be what I felt like to play in the Western Conference for the last 15-20 years lol.
I think we're the worst match up for the Sixers. I think they are also the team that needs home court the most out of the 5. The 6th through 8th teams aren't good so it isn't really like the West.
Yes. The Sixers fans fear the Celtics. They give their own team no shot to win a series against us and I agree with them. I don't think ending 5th will work out that bad as long as we don't have to play the Bucks in the second round.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
Reddick is having an awesome offensive season, but he is really brutal on defense and would probably be best served coming off the bench at this stage of the year. Part of the reason guards do so well against the 76ers is because of his defense. We also mercilessly attacked him last year in the playoffs. For just being a fan of embiid you sure defend the entire team a lot
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed?
Ben Simmons
He's not a winning basketball player, and in fact is a bit of a liability in close games.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed?
Ben Simmons
He's not a winning basketball player, and in fact is a bit of a liability in close games.
Relatively speaking, I haven't been watching basketball closely for all that long. Less than 20 years. But I have the crankiness of a very old man when I hear people complain about 22 year olds not being "winning players". I heard it about Lebron, Durant, Dirk, KG, and plenty of others. Players change, teams change. I don't believe in proclaiming someone to not be a winner after less than 2 seasons in the league.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed?
Ben Simmons
He's not a winning basketball player, and in fact is a bit of a liability in close games.
Relatively speaking, I haven't been watching basketball closely for all that long. Less than 20 years. But I have the crankiness of a very old man when I hear people complain about 22 year olds not being "winning players". I heard it about Lebron, Durant, Dirk, KG, and plenty of others. Players change, teams change. I don't believe in proclaiming someone to not be a winner after less than 2 seasons in the league.
I'm not concerned with your crankiness, that's a 'you' problem, not a 'me' problem.
That said, what are the chances that Simmons changes 'who he is' before Butler's prime is over, let alone his next contract?
IMO, it's just not very likely. Thus the team is fatally flawed as currently constructed, and I'm pretty sure Butler is smart enough to see this also.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed?
Ben Simmons
He's not a winning basketball player, and in fact is a bit of a liability in close games.
Relatively speaking, I haven't been watching basketball closely for all that long. Less than 20 years. But I have the crankiness of a very old man when I hear people complain about 22 year olds not being "winning players". I heard it about Lebron, Durant, Dirk, KG, and plenty of others. Players change, teams change. I don't believe in proclaiming someone to not be a winner after less than 2 seasons in the league.
I'm not concerned with your crankiness, that's a 'you' problem, not a 'me' problem.
That said, what are the chances that Simmons changes 'who he is' before Butler's prime is over, let alone his next contract?
IMO, it's just not very likely. Thus the team is fatally flawed as currently constructed, and I'm pretty sure Butler is smart enough to see this also.
i don't think he will resign there unless they trade simmons
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
Reddick is having an awesome offensive season, but he is really brutal on defense and would probably be best served coming off the bench at this stage of the year. Part of the reason guards do so well against the 76ers is because of his defense. We also mercilessly attacked him last year in the playoffs. For just being a fan of embiid you sure defend the entire team a lot
If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
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Their lack of bench & bad coaching are the fatal flaws of Philly, but Ben Simmons being a complete non-threat from deep cripples their offence at times
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed?
Ben Simmons
He's not a winning basketball player, and in fact is a bit of a liability in close games.
Relatively speaking, I haven't been watching basketball closely for all that long. Less than 20 years. But I have the crankiness of a very old man when I hear people complain about 22 year olds not being "winning players". I heard it about Lebron, Durant, Dirk, KG, and plenty of others. Players change, teams change. I don't believe in proclaiming someone to not be a winner after less than 2 seasons in the league.
I'm not concerned with your crankiness, that's a 'you' problem, not a 'me' problem.
That said, what are the chances that Simmons changes 'who he is' before Butler's prime is over, let alone his next contract?
IMO, it's just not very likely. Thus the team is fatally flawed as currently constructed, and I'm pretty sure Butler is smart enough to see this also.
i don't think he will resign there unless they trade simmons
Assuming that Butler is being on honest about wanting to win, where is he going to go that gives him a better chance to win than the Sixers? Which teams are even going to want to give him a Max contract considering his age, difficult personality and the fact that he is not a #1 star on a championship contender. For the Sixers, he slots in nicely as their #2 star and could slide to #3 as he ages and Simmons improves.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed?
Ben Simmons
He's not a winning basketball player, and in fact is a bit of a liability in close games.
Relatively speaking, I haven't been watching basketball closely for all that long. Less than 20 years. But I have the crankiness of a very old man when I hear people complain about 22 year olds not being "winning players". I heard it about Lebron, Durant, Dirk, KG, and plenty of others. Players change, teams change. I don't believe in proclaiming someone to not be a winner after less than 2 seasons in the league.
I'm not concerned with your crankiness, that's a 'you' problem, not a 'me' problem.
That said, what are the chances that Simmons changes 'who he is' before Butler's prime is over, let alone his next contract?
IMO, it's just not very likely. Thus the team is fatally flawed as currently constructed, and I'm pretty sure Butler is smart enough to see this also.
i don't think he will resign there unless they trade simmons
Assuming that Butler is being on honest about wanting to win, where is he going to go that gives him a better chance to win than the Sixers? Which teams are even going to want to give him a Max contract considering his age, difficult personality and the fact that he is not a #1 star on a championship contender. For the Sixers, he slots in nicely as their #2 star and could slide to #3 as he ages and Simmons improves.
Lakers. Clippers. Knicks. Nets. All would happy sign Butler to a max contract.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
Reddick is having an awesome offensive season, but he is really brutal on defense and would probably be best served coming off the bench at this stage of the year. Part of the reason guards do so well against the 76ers is because of his defense. We also mercilessly attacked him last year in the playoffs. For just being a fan of embiid you sure defend the entire team a lot
If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
So you think 538 has some ax to grind against Simmons? Go shoot that fish in the barrel and explain to them why you are smarter than them. Jesus
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Good stop
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
Reddick is having an awesome offensive season, but he is really brutal on defense and would probably be best served coming off the bench at this stage of the year. Part of the reason guards do so well against the 76ers is because of his defense. We also mercilessly attacked him last year in the playoffs. For just being a fan of embiid you sure defend the entire team a lot
If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
So you think 538 has some ax to grind against Simmons? Go shoot that fish in the barrel and explain to them why you are smarter than them. Jesus
I mean there's quite a number of Sixers fan like him who says the same about Simmons. How did it become "green-colored?".
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If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
I'm yet to read one ;)
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If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
I'm yet to read one ;)
Yea, I’ve seen him offer a vague critique on something irrelevant like an end of bench player or them having a poor fifth starter, but never seen anything more than that. It gets tiring
On the flip side I am very positive about some thing 76ers. Think embiid is a top ten player and could be higher. Think Simmons will eventually be a every year all star. Initially was very scared of butler being great for them. I just don’t say everything they do is magic and share third party critiques of Simmons shooting and watch their national TV games
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
Reddick is having an awesome offensive season, but he is really brutal on defense and would probably be best served coming off the bench at this stage of the year. Part of the reason guards do so well against the 76ers is because of his defense. We also mercilessly attacked him last year in the playoffs. For just being a fan of embiid you sure defend the entire team a lot
If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
So you think 538 has some ax to grind against Simmons? Go shoot that fish in the barrel and explain to them why you are smarter than them. Jesus
I wasn't talking about 538 but since when did they start walking on water? Didn't they predict Hillary would win the election? Did you actually read the 538 article or just the headline? There was nothing about the Sixers being "fatally flawed" because of Simmons. The author referred to it as a problem that could be hampering their offense against better teams.
The author primarily uses DRE stat to show Simmons drop off between good and bad teams; however, there are lots of big names that show a big dropoff. Oladipo's numbers are essentially the same as Simmons. I'd argue that's a much bigger deal for Indiana since Oladipo is their #1 option. Simmons is essentially the Sixers #4 option in the half court. BTW, Klay Thompson's DRE numbers are worse than Simmons.
Since the Butler trade, the Sixers are 19-7 and rank 7th offensively. They're still adjusting their offense to incorporate Butler. As the 538 article mentions, they are starting to use Simmons more frequently as a big man. The Sixers would obviously be better offensively if Simmons improves his shooting. I'd prioritize it as follows: free throws, mid-range, 3 pointers.
As for late game situations like yesterday, the obvious solution is to have Butler not Simmons get the ball in the backcourt. I also would have Embiid in the front court not inbounding the ball. No need for a 3. The Sixers would have had a decided advantage if they tied it up and went to overtime.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
Reddick is having an awesome offensive season, but he is really brutal on defense and would probably be best served coming off the bench at this stage of the year. Part of the reason guards do so well against the 76ers is because of his defense. We also mercilessly attacked him last year in the playoffs. For just being a fan of embiid you sure defend the entire team a lot
If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
So you think 538 has some ax to grind against Simmons? Go shoot that fish in the barrel and explain to them why you are smarter than them. Jesus
I mean there's quite a number of Sixers fan like him who says the same about Simmons. How did it become "green-colored?".
There's a big difference between something being a problem versus being fatally flawed. If the Sixers were to re-sign Butler, replace Chandler with Marcus Morris (or similar player) and shore up their bench next offseason, that would be a strong team not a fatally flawed team.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
Reddick is having an awesome offensive season, but he is really brutal on defense and would probably be best served coming off the bench at this stage of the year. Part of the reason guards do so well against the 76ers is because of his defense. We also mercilessly attacked him last year in the playoffs. For just being a fan of embiid you sure defend the entire team a lot
If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
So you think 538 has some ax to grind against Simmons? Go shoot that fish in the barrel and explain to them why you are smarter than them. Jesus
I mean there's quite a number of Sixers fan like him who says the same about Simmons. How did it become "green-colored?".
There's a big difference between something being a problem versus being fatally flawed. If the Sixers were to re-sign Butler, replace Chandler with Marcus Morris (or similar player) and shore up their bench next offseason, that would be a strong team not a fatally flawed team.
You realize it was not me or rockyn that used the phrase fatally flawed? You became so enraged someone said something negative about the 76ers you lost track of who you were arguing with I guess. This is just becoming parody at this point....
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
Reddick is having an awesome offensive season, but he is really brutal on defense and would probably be best served coming off the bench at this stage of the year. Part of the reason guards do so well against the 76ers is because of his defense. We also mercilessly attacked him last year in the playoffs. For just being a fan of embiid you sure defend the entire team a lot
If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
So you think 538 has some ax to grind against Simmons? Go shoot that fish in the barrel and explain to them why you are smarter than them. Jesus
I mean there's quite a number of Sixers fan like him who says the same about Simmons. How did it become "green-colored?".
There's a big difference between something being a problem versus being fatally flawed. If the Sixers were to re-sign Butler, replace Chandler with Marcus Morris (or similar player) and shore up their bench next offseason, that would be a strong team not a fatally flawed team.
You realize it was not me or rockyn that used the phrase fatally flawed? You became so enraged someone said something negative about the 76ers you lost track of who you were arguing with I guess. This is just becoming parody at this point....
That's priceless. I responded directly to KGs Knee who made the "fatal flaw" comment and it was you who jumped on my response.
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Butler is going to end up leaving Philly holding the bag this summer. I just can't see him wanting to stay on a team that is fatally flawed.
How are they fatally flawed? Embiid, Butler, Simmons, Redick is a strong top 4. Their main problem is their 5th started and their bench. If they were to replace Wilson Chandler with Marcus Morris or similar level player, they'd have a really strong starting 5.
Edit: Your comment is especially funny since Butler was the one who stunk up the joint most of the night.
Reddick is having an awesome offensive season, but he is really brutal on defense and would probably be best served coming off the bench at this stage of the year. Part of the reason guards do so well against the 76ers is because of his defense. We also mercilessly attacked him last year in the playoffs. For just being a fan of embiid you sure defend the entire team a lot
If the Sixers could send Redick to the bench, they'd be the clear favorites in the East. They need Redick's shooting in the starting lineup. Redick works best with Embiid on the court. They work great together on offense and Embiid helps alleviate some of Redick's defensive deficiencies. The Sixer's main problem isn't Simmons lack of shooting, Redick's defense or the fit of their 3 stars. Their main problem is their 5th starter and their bench.
I offer positive and negative critiques of the Sixers unlike you and the other Sixers bashers who can't see past your green colored goggles. Contradicting nonsense like "the Sixers are fatally flawed because of Simmons" is just shooting fish in the barrel.
So you think 538 has some ax to grind against Simmons? Go shoot that fish in the barrel and explain to them why you are smarter than them. Jesus
I mean there's quite a number of Sixers fan like him who says the same about Simmons. How did it become "green-colored?".
There's a big difference between something being a problem versus being fatally flawed. If the Sixers were to re-sign Butler, replace Chandler with Marcus Morris (or similar player) and shore up their bench next offseason, that would be a strong team not a fatally flawed team.
You realize it was not me or rockyn that used the phrase fatally flawed? You became so enraged someone said something negative about the 76ers you lost track of who you were arguing with I guess. This is just becoming parody at this point....
That's priceless. I responded directly to KGs Knee who made the "fatal flaw" comment and it was you who jumped on my response.
Scroll up. See you brought up fatal flaw to rockyn, then I guess put a price on it?
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In other nba news the pacers have 2 of their next 3 games against the raptors and warriors. We really need them to have a tough patch soon cause they only play like 3-4 teams above .500 in February
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Was watching the Kings @ Nets game. I'd love us to go after Rodions Kurucs.
Joe Harris ain't half bad either. He's on a pretty nice contract as well.
2018/19: $8,333,333
2019/20: $7,666,667
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Looks like Jahlil Okafor still has a knack for scoring the ball, if nothing else. 20/10 from him tonight in fill-in duty with AD out.
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my god how does houston sell a ticket . this is the worst form of basketball i ever watched . one man plays four watch
i rather see jr high school league .
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my god how does houston sell a ticket . this is the worst form of basketball i ever watched . one man plays four watch
i rather see jr high school league .
Just goes to show fans pay to see the stars.
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In other nba news the pacers have 2 of their next 3 games against the raptors and warriors. We really need them to have a tough patch soon cause they only play like 3-4 teams above .500 in February
Was hoping the Rockets would bring it against Philly, instead they lose by 28. Could have used a Philly loss, that would have put the C's even in the loss column.
Still the Sixers upcoming schedule looks tough, this is their next 9:
Spurs
@ Nuggets
@ Lakers (hopefully with a healthy LeBron, though can't believe I just wrote that)
@ Warriors
@ Kings
Raptors
Nuggets
Lakers
Celtics
And for the Raptors, 4 of the next 7 look to be tough (@ Pacers, @ Houston, Bucks, @ Philly)
Would be sweet if the C's can take of business, great opportunity to gain some ground in the standings.
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Nurkic with a dominant quarter versus the Jazz just now. He's driving Gobert nuts.
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In other nba news the pacers have 2 of their next 3 games against the raptors and warriors. We really need them to have a tough patch soon cause they only play like 3-4 teams above .500 in February
Was hoping the Rockets would bring it against Philly, instead they lose by 28. Could have used a Philly loss, that would have put the C's even in the loss column.
Still the Sixers upcoming schedule looks tough, this is their next 9:
Spurs
@ Nuggets
@ Lakers (hopefully with a healthy LeBron, though can't believe I just wrote that)
@ Warriors
@ Kings
Raptors
Nuggets
Lakers
Celtics
And for the Raptors, 4 of the next 7 look to be tough (@ Pacers, @ Houston, Bucks, @ Philly)
Would be sweet if the C's can take of business, great opportunity to gain some ground in the standings.
Yes, this seems to be the opportunity. By the middle of February we really need to be on the top half of the Eastern bracket (top 4)!
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I know the rocket are missing two starters, but the 76ers were missing butler. Really really impressive win by them
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I know the rocket are missing two starters, but the 76ers were missing butler. Really really impressive win by them
Something else we agree on. TP back at you. ;D
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Golden State just beat the crap out of the Lakers. Wow!
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PG13 playing like tonight (and all year) gives me hope about Hayward...please dont incorrectly, or even correctly dispute my optimism with opinion or facts about the differences...let me stay convinced lol
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Luka just split a pick and roll behind his back and finished at the rim with his opposite hand. He's just so darn good. He's a fun player to watch.
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PG13 playing like tonight (and all year) gives me hope about Hayward...please dont incorrectly, or even correctly dispute my optimism with opinion or facts about the differences...let me stay convinced lol
I stand with you, matteo. Seeing PG do what he is doing, which is playing like a top 10 player, gives me hope that Gordo will be a stud sometime soon.
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The thing that sucks is, we're 7-3 in our last 10, but so are PHI and IND. MIL and TOR are 8-2 in their last 10. So we're putting it together and improving but not much is changing in the standings currently :(
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The thing that sucks is, we're 7-3 in our last 10, but so are PHI and IND. MIL and TOR are 8-2 in their last 10. So we're putting it together and improving but not much is changing in the standings currently :(
Also, didn't realize, but YIKES. Oladipo may have suffered a season-ending knee injury tonight. That could really hurt the Pacers now (although they won tonight vs. TOR but they were without Kawhi)
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Go Spurs! A Sixers loss here would be very nice
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LOL wow, Rockets up 97-93 on the Knicks. Harden has 49 points (16 of 19 from the line) ::)
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Dipo injury pretty much makes the East a 4 team conference now. Too bad. Hate seeing players getting hurt, especially difference making ones. Get well soon Deeps.
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Ughhhh, San Antonio completely blows this game giving up a 9-0 run to end the game 😤 Hopefully they can get a miracle here and hit a game-winner.
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LOL wow, Rockets up 97-93 on the Knicks. Harden has 49 points (16 of 19 from the line) ::)
The Knicks have done a very nice tank job. I thought they'd be solidly 6th or 7th worse but they are really, really tryin' for Zion.
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LOL wow, Rockets up 97-93 on the Knicks. Harden has 49 points (16 of 19 from the line) ::)
The Knicks have done a very nice tank job. I thought they'd be solidly 6th or 7th worse but they are really, really tryin' for Zion.
It really is amazing how horrible the knicks have been for a long time. Even the Nets without draft picks got better faster than them.
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I understand the dislike for a key player on a rival, but I think Simmons is poorly characterized here at times, and he's my fantasy asset.
Tonight, he had 21 points (9/14 FG), 10 rebounds, 15 assists, 1 steal, and 3 TOs in a win over the Spurs.
Third youngest player to notch 20 triple doubles (Big O, Magic).
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Crowder just made a ridiculous contested 3 with a foul versus the Nuggets, and IT was clapping for him and laughing on the sidelines. Pretty cool.
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I understand the dislike for a key player on a rival, but I think Simmons is poorly characterized here at times, and he's my fantasy asset.
Tonight, he had 21 points (9/14 FG), 10 rebounds, 15 assists, 1 steal, and 3 TOs in a win over the Spurs.
Third youngest player to notch 20 triple doubles (Big O, Magic).
His flaws get overplayed on here and his strengths get underplayed. My biggest question is his mindset. So far he's gotten by on talent. Is he going to settle for being a very good player or is he going to put in the effort to be a great player?
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I understand the dislike for a key player on a rival, but I think Simmons is poorly characterized here at times, and he's my fantasy asset.
Tonight, he had 21 points (9/14 FG), 10 rebounds, 15 assists, 1 steal, and 3 TOs in a win over the Spurs.
Third youngest player to notch 20 triple doubles (Big O, Magic).
Simmons is just like Westbrook.
They'll put up fantastic stats, but you'll never win a title with a player that can be so easily game planned against in a playoff series.
It took people a while to finally realize this about Westbrook, and people will start to eventually realize this about Simmons, too.
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I understand the dislike for a key player on a rival, but I think Simmons is poorly characterized here at times, and he's my fantasy asset.
Tonight, he had 21 points (9/14 FG), 10 rebounds, 15 assists, 1 steal, and 3 TOs in a win over the Spurs.
Third youngest player to notch 20 triple doubles (Big O, Magic).
Simmons is just like Westbrook.
They'll put up fantastic stats, but you'll never win a title with a player that can be so easily game planned against in a playoff series.
It took people a while to finally realize this about Westbrook, and people will start to eventually realize this about Simmons, too.
Except that Westbrook is OKC's #1 star and Simmons is really the Sixers 4th option in their half court offense.
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I understand the dislike for a key player on a rival, but I think Simmons is poorly characterized here at times, and he's my fantasy asset.
Tonight, he had 21 points (9/14 FG), 10 rebounds, 15 assists, 1 steal, and 3 TOs in a win over the Spurs.
Third youngest player to notch 20 triple doubles (Big O, Magic).
Simmons is just like Westbrook.
They'll put up fantastic stats, but you'll never win a title with a player that can be so easily game planned against in a playoff series.
It took people a while to finally realize this about Westbrook, and people will start to eventually realize this about Simmons, too.
The same thing was being said about Giannis... He won't do anything without decent shot. I am not saying Simmons is Giannis but he is no Mayo either.
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I understand the dislike for a key player on a rival, but I think Simmons is poorly characterized here at times, and he's my fantasy asset.
Tonight, he had 21 points (9/14 FG), 10 rebounds, 15 assists, 1 steal, and 3 TOs in a win over the Spurs.
Third youngest player to notch 20 triple doubles (Big O, Magic).
Simmons is just like Westbrook.
They'll put up fantastic stats, but you'll never win a title with a player that can be so easily game planned against in a playoff series.
It took people a while to finally realize this about Westbrook, and people will start to eventually realize this about Simmons, too.
The same thing was being said about Giannis... He won't do anything without decent shot. I am not saying Simmons is Giannis but he is no Mayo either.
Giannis is on a different level than Simmons. Plus Giannis does actually attempt outside shots.
Also it's not about disliking a key player on a rival, because people here respects Embiid's talent as with Porzingis when he was healthy.
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The sophomore Giannis got a lot of "he is just dunking, very predictable 'comments.
But I agree that simmons' fear to take any shot is something to worry about.
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Too many people talk about Giannis and Simmons shooting as though they're the same. They're not.
Neither is a good shooter but Giannis is willing to shoot. He has almost always taken at least one a game for his whole career and made over 30% last season before dropping off the face of the Earth this year. He's also a career 74% FT shooter.
Simmons, on the other hand doesn't shoot. He's attempted 11 threes in 129 regular season games and makes less than 58% of his FT's this year which is an improvement over the last. It's not just that both are bad outside shooters, it's that Simmons is ignoring an entire part of the game so far in his career. That's going to have to change.
And this is from someone very high on Ben Simmons.
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I understand the dislike for a key player on a rival, but I think Simmons is poorly characterized here at times, and he's my fantasy asset.
Tonight, he had 21 points (9/14 FG), 10 rebounds, 15 assists, 1 steal, and 3 TOs in a win over the Spurs.
Third youngest player to notch 20 triple doubles (Big O, Magic).
Simmons is just like Westbrook.
They'll put up fantastic stats, but you'll never win a title with a player that can be so easily game planned against in a playoff series.
It took people a while to finally realize this about Westbrook, and people will start to eventually realize this about Simmons, too.
Except that Westbrook is OKC's #1 star and Simmons is really the Sixers 4th option in their half court offense.
Paul George is starting to look like a much better player than Westbrook.
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Rondo returns tonight to play on TNT!
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Rondo returns tonight to play on TNT!
Bron needs a new groin 8)
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Was a Wiz loss ever in doubt tonight ...
GS played about 85 % max effort and rolled easy
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Well, LeBron was going to get injured long term eventually. Why not in a year where he wasn't going to win a title anyway? Rest LeBron. You really don't have to be you until this coming October when you will have more help.
God I hate LeBron. He even gets injured well by doing so at the most convenient time, in a year where his team was going to be unable to be a contender anyway.
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Ouch. Sportscenter posted this on instagram, and for some reason the celtics fan page did too.
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Ouch. Sportscenter posted this on instagram, and for some reason the celtics fan page did too.
that's really not a fair comparison
Why did they arbitrarily choose December 3? Because that's when
Harden started to putting up a wilt chamberlain type of ppg streak
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Lol.
That Houston team will be lucky to get out of the first round. Harden scores 60 and the Rocks win by 4. Yawn, move on.
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Ouch. Sportscenter posted this on instagram, and for some reason the celtics fan page did too.
His numbers this year are straight up preposterous. Since the 50 points he dropped on the Lakers on the 13th of December he's averaging 43-8-8. The amount of freedom he has on offence is insane.
Too bad he puts in literally no effort defensively, but he's definitely going to win another MVP
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Ouch. Sportscenter posted this on instagram, and for some reason the celtics fan page did too.
that's really not a fair comparison
Why did they arbitrarily choose December 3? Because that's when
Harden started to putting up a wilt chamberlain type of ppg streak
I think it’s just another way of quantifying how insane Harden’s numbers have been. Kyrie is an All-NBA level scorer, and Harden dwarves him.
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Fun fact: League scoring averages have increased every year since 2011-2012 (96.3 ppg). The largest leap by year that I can see within the past decade plus is 2017-2018 (106.3 ppg) to this year (110.5 ppg).
At what point will defense be brought back into the game?
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I understand the dislike for a key player on a rival, but I think Simmons is poorly characterized here at times, and he's my fantasy asset.
Tonight, he had 21 points (9/14 FG), 10 rebounds, 15 assists, 1 steal, and 3 TOs in a win over the Spurs.
Third youngest player to notch 20 triple doubles (Big O, Magic).
Simmons is just like Westbrook.
They'll put up fantastic stats, but you'll never win a title with a player that can be so easily game planned against in a playoff series.
It took people a while to finally realize this about Westbrook, and people will start to eventually realize this about Simmons, too.
Except that Westbrook is OKC's #1 star and Simmons is really the Sixers 4th option in their half court offense.
Paul George is starting to look like a much better player than Westbrook.
George is the better player but Westbrook is OKC's #1 star. He's got the highest usage (30% vs 28%) and is the driver of the offense. Going back to Simmons his usage rate is only 21%.
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Rockets basketball , especially with CP3 out is the worst product in the league to,watch , worse than Suns even. 48 minutes of Harden ISO ball complete turn off.
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why does rondo have to be a faker
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Rockets basketball , especially with CP3 out is the worst product in the league to,watch , worse than Suns even. 48 minutes of Harden ISO ball complete turn off.
isn't it funny how Mike dantoni system is often talked about like its intricate when it's really basic - give the ball hog the hall. First it was Carmelo then harden
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Imagine if Kyrie got 2 FT's every time a defender grazed him. Or looked at him.
He'd be unstoppable. Almost.... Harden-like.
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Imagine if Kyrie got 2 FT's every time a defender grazed him. Or looked at him.
He'd be unstoppable. Almost.... Harden-like.
It's amazing how little respect the refs give him, considering he is one of the marquee players. Did he get more calls in Cleveland? A friend of mine is a Bucks fan and he admitted even he is amazed by all the fouls they call on Giannis - and like Lebron, his physical superiority would suggest he doesnt need all the help from the refs.
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Ouch. Sportscenter posted this on instagram, and for some reason the celtics fan page did too.
that's really not a fair comparison
Why did they arbitrarily choose December 3? Because that's when
Harden started to putting up a wilt chamberlain type of ppg streak
I think it’s just another way of quantifying how insane Harden’s numbers have been. Kyrie is an All-NBA level scorer, and Harden dwarves him.
That's is case when your are the only option on the team with the coach who likes the one trick pony offense.
The bigger perspective is that all of these 35 PPG scorers teams flame out in the first round and revolve around 45 regular season wins.
Kobe, MJ, Tmac now Harden.
Certainly it is not their fault that their teams go home early, but track record is clear. That architecture is limited to being a fun early exit team. One threat is easy to deal with, 5 threats (Boston, GSW) is hard to deal with.
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I think there is no way he SHOULD win the MVP. He has entered the most selfish stretch of games I have seen. He is so in-efficient. How the refs reward him with all of those free throws is beyond me. His defenders should be backing off him and make him shoot better than 5 for 20 from three he did the other night. he went 19 for 20 from the FT line and 5 for 20 from three. Harden also plays NO defense. LIke someone above said. 61 points and the team barely wins. One of my least favorite players in the league. I hate his beard too lol
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I think there is no way he SHOULD win the MVP. He has entered the most selfish stretch of games I have seen. He is so in-efficient. How the refs reward him with all of those free throws is beyond me. His defenders should be backing off him and make him shoot better than 5 for 20 from three he did the other night. he went 19 for 20 from the FT line and 5 for 20 from three. Harden also plays NO defense. LIke someone above said. 61 points and the team barely wins. One of my least favorite players in the league. I hate his beard too lol
What do you mean by saying "61 points and the team barely wins." ???
The rockets ???? Are you sure ??? got it on second read
Anyway i don't like his style but the fact is that he leads an expansion team roster to the playoffs.
And tbh when the C's were all over the place i would have loved seeing Irving pulling a Harden scoring 40ppg and get a few extra wins
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Regardless what we feel about Harden and the Rockets, lets hope he can keep it up and put up 50+ en route to a win over the Raptors tonight ;D
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Regardless what we feel about Harden and the Rockets, lets hope he can keep it up and put up 50+ en route to a win over the Raptors tonight ;D
Rockets are going to get murdered . I predict Raptors by 18 .
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Regardless what we feel about Harden and the Rockets, lets hope he can keep it up and put up 50+ en route to a win over the Raptors tonight ;D
Rockets are going to get murdered . I predict Raptors by 18 .
The Raptors lost to Indiana after they lost Oladipo. Is Kawhi playing? He's been out for the last 4 games I think.
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Regardless what we feel about Harden and the Rockets, lets hope he can keep it up and put up 50+ en route to a win over the Raptors tonight ;D
Rockets are going to get murdered . I predict Raptors by 18 .
The Raptors lost to Indiana after they lost Oladipo. Is Kawhi playing? He's been out for the last 4 games I think.
yes he's supposed to be
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rockets up 48-26 on raptors
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rockets up 48-26 on raptors
and just like that the leads down to 8 lol
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i eat my words , tip my hat to Houston ...figured it out and played great defense .
Amazing what team play can accomplish
Rockets played a fun game .
and beat the Raptors .
Woo hoo
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i thought it was over like 10 point lead with 1.10 and now stupid rockets could loose this . :(
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wow ....
that was close ....never needed to be ...smh
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LOL Rockets up 22 in the first half. Then up 11 with 1:15 left in the 4th. Literally a minute later they are only up 2...
Update: They won! But dang that was almost a pathetic choke.
Also Bucks down by 11 with 9 minutes to go in the Hornets game. Could be a great night all around for us.
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LOL Rockets up 22 in the first half. Then up 11 with 1:15 left in the 4th. Literally a minute later they are only up 2...
i looked down at my ipad , looked back up 11 point lead was 2 .....i thought imwas seeing things
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LOL Rockets up 22 in the first half. Then up 11 with 1:15 left in the 4th. Literally a minute later they are only up 2...
Update: They won! But dang that was almost a pathetic choke.
Also Bucks down by 11 with 9 minutes to go in the Hornets game. Could be a great night all around for us.
... and 2 minutes later the Bucks are only down 1. Great...
LOL Rockets up 22 in the first half. Then up 11 with 1:15 left in the 4th. Literally a minute later they are only up 2...
i looked down at my ipad , looked back up 11 point lead was 2 .....i thought imwas seeing things
LOL yeah I was like “oh snap did Harden choke on offense and allow them to comeback?” :P
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Hornets choking late to bucks
i did not thinkmthey could out grind the bucks
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Maxi Kleber is giving Drummond the business in Dallas right now.
Andddd Luke with a dagger! 30 points, 8 boards, 8 assists.
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LOL Rockets up 22 in the first half. Then up 11 with 1:15 left in the 4th. Literally a minute later they are only up 2...
Update: They won! But dang that was almost a pathetic choke.
Also Bucks down by 11 with 9 minutes to go in the Hornets game. Could be a great night all around for us.
... and 2 minutes later the Bucks are only down 1. Great...
LOL Rockets up 22 in the first half. Then up 11 with 1:15 left in the 4th. Literally a minute later they are only up 2...
i looked down at my ipad , looked back up 11 point lead was 2 .....i thought imwas seeing things
LOL yeah I was like “oh snap did Harden choke on offense and allow them to comeback?” :P
i had the volume turned off , so i did n't hear or see that 45 sec the lost 9 points . Bad bad bad coaching , no excuse for that sloppy play when you got the led by a comfortable margin.
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Harden's the kind of dude to go 8-28 from the field, but still end up with 45 points because he gets like 25 FT attempts a game. Freakin' hell.
I know we understandably complain about Giannis and Lebron and others getting calls and such, but boy could you imagine if all of them (and Kyrie) got the calls and FTA's a game that Harden does. We'd legit have guys averaging 45+ PPG in an entire season with that.
But playoff time it doesn't matter. Harden's style won't work there. In a way, that's what is holding HOU back. When CP3 got injured in Game 5, that was it for their title hopes last year as Harden predictably choked playing iso-ball (especially in Game 7). Their hopes this year also rely on a healthy CP3 and Capela (both).
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I'm not a fan of Harden or his game but the Rockets are 12-5 while Chris Paul has been out and the last few games have been without Capella too. Besides Lebron, I think is unlikely that anyone else could have done that.
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I'm not a fan of Harden or his game but the Rockets are 12-5 while Chris Paul has been out and the last few games have been without Capella too. Besides Lebron, I think is unlikely that anyone else could have done that.
I too am not a huge Harden guy but he’s been sensational carrying the Rockets.
He’s more impressive than Kobe was during that egomaniacal season he had.
Have we seen this type of scoring from anyone other than Wilt and (perhaps) Jordan?
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Harden definitely is the best scorer in the league, there's no denying that at this point.
It remains to be seen if he's up to the task of carrying a team to a title, though. So far it seems he might no be.
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I'm not a fan of Harden or his game but the Rockets are 12-5 while Chris Paul has been out and the last few games have been without Capella too. Besides Lebron, I think is unlikely that anyone else could have done that.
I too am not a huge Harden guy but he’s been sensational carrying the Rockets.
He’s more impressive than Kobe was during that egomaniacal season he had.
Have we seen this type of scoring from anyone other than Wilt and (perhaps) Jordan?
I’d love to see Harden beat Kobe’s 81 point game.
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I'm not a fan of Harden or his game but the Rockets are 12-5 while Chris Paul has been out and the last few games have been without Capella too. Besides Lebron, I think is unlikely that anyone else could have done that.
I too am not a huge Harden guy but he’s been sensational carrying the Rockets.
He’s more impressive than Kobe was during that egomaniacal season he had.
Have we seen this type of scoring from anyone other than Wilt and (perhaps) Jordan?
Probably not honestly. And it's never been an issue with Harden doing this in the regular season. It just hasn't really translated into much success in the postseason seemingly. Their best hope at winning it all though is still with a healthy CP3 and Capela alongside Harden
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I'm not a fan of Harden or his game but the Rockets are 12-5 while Chris Paul has been out and the last few games have been without Capella too. Besides Lebron, I think is unlikely that anyone else could have done that.
I too am not a huge Harden guy but he’s been sensational carrying the Rockets.
He’s more impressive than Kobe was during that egomaniacal season he had.
Have we seen this type of scoring from anyone other than Wilt and (perhaps) Jordan?
I’d love to see Harden beat Kobe’s 81 point game.
Well if they run their offense every single time through Harden and he plays 40 minutes...he can even beat Wilts 100 point game... ;D
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Well at least the Pacers lost and Sixers are losing too.
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Why do the Celtics always play on Superbowl Sunday every year? Is it like a tradition or what lol
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Why do the Celtics always play on Superbowl Sunday every year? Is it like a tradition or what lol
Actually, yeah. For at least 10 to maybe 15 years the Celtics played the 76ers at like noon on Superbowl Sunday. Some years they had Celtics-Lakers on SB Sunday too.
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I guess its just me, but a guy who routinely shoots 25% on 20 three attempts is not impressive. He is a massive ball hog. He needs close to 50% of the darn shot attempts to get his numbers. Compare to lebron who gets similar numbers while making his team mates better. Harden will never win his way because no one wants to play with him if they have enough talent to make the team good. They will beat up on the lower quality teams that can't slow him down, but the good teams will win the series most times.
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Was just wading through schedules of different teams. Philly lost to Denver on Saturday, 126-110 on the first game of a dreadful West Coast trip.
Take a look at their next 7 games. Philly could have Boston coming into town in mid-February while Philly is on a 7game losing streak
@LAL
@GSW
@SAC
vs TOR
vs DEN
vs LAL
vs BOS
Okay maybe upon losing to Boston they won't be on an 8 game losing streak, but they could easily be 2-6 with losses to @Den(game already lost), vs Den, Bos, @Sac, @GSW, and vs Tor. And if LeBron plays in either of the LAL games, that could mean losses there too.
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I think Embiid asks for a trade by next season if philly doesnt get better imo.
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I think Embiid asks for a trade by next season if philly doesnt get better imo.
Really? That would be quite a big shock to them IMO. Although them trusting the Process only for he to not trust them and demand out would be hilarious. Can't say I would be sad if Boston jumped at Philly with an offer in this scenario though
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I think Embiid asks for a trade by next season if philly doesnt get better imo.
Really? That would be quite a big shock to them IMO. Although them trusting the Process only for he to not trust them and demand out would be hilarious. Can't say I would be sad if Boston jumped at Philly with an offer in this scenario though
There was minor beef with simmons already and embiud is insanely arrogant
If philly isnt the tip team, and he continues to see kawhi, lebron, davis and other through their superstar weight around........
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I think Embiid asks for a trade by next season if philly doesnt get better imo.
Really? That would be quite a big shock to them IMO. Although them trusting the Process only for he to not trust them and demand out would be hilarious. Can't say I would be sad if Boston jumped at Philly with an offer in this scenario though
There was minor beef with simmons already and embiud is insanely arrogant
If philly isnt the tip team, and he continues to see kawhi, lebron, davis and other through their superstar weight around........
Yeah, plus the addition of Butler hasn't made them a mega team like many thought it may
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Was just wading through schedules of different teams. Philly lost to Denver on Saturday, 126-110 on the first game of a dreadful West Coast trip.
Take a look at their next 7 games. Philly could have Boston coming into town in mid-February while Philly is on a 7game losing streak
@LAL
@GSW
@SAC
vs TOR
vs DEN
vs LAL
vs BOS
Okay maybe upon losing to Boston they won't be on an 8 game losing streak, but they could easily be 2-6 with losses to @Den(game already lost), vs Den, Bos, @Sac, @GSW, and vs Tor. And if LeBron plays in either of the LAL games, that could mean losses there too.
Embiid, Butler and Chandler all missed the Denver game. They are actually in the middle of a tough 12 game stretch against .500 or better opponents. Besides the Denver loss, they blew out Indiana and Houston, beat Spurs by 2 and lost to OKC by 2.
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As much as I'd love PHI to lose in our quest to move up in the standings... I also wouldn't mind if they pummel the Lakers and their "valuable trade assets" tonight >:( ::)
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As much as I'd love PHI to lose in our quest to move up in the standings... I also wouldn't mind if they pummel the Lakers and their "valuable trade assets" tonight >:( ::)
Would’ve loved to see McConnell harass Lonzo
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As much as I'd love PHI to lose in our quest to move up in the standings... I also wouldn't mind if they pummel the Lakers and their "valuable trade assets" tonight >:( ::)
Would’ve loved to see McConnell harass Lonzo
Lonzo is out injured (4-6 weeks).
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As much as I'd love PHI to lose in our quest to move up in the standings... I also wouldn't mind if they pummel the Lakers and their "valuable trade assets" tonight >:( ::)
Would’ve loved to see McConnell harass Lonzo
Lonzo is out injured.
Yeah I think that's why he said, "would've". Either way the Lakers have a pretty tough stretch coming up. If Lebron remains out for some more time and the Jazz, Clippers keep rising then their chances of making the playoffs get a lot tougher. I still think they make it but probably as a 7-8 seed
Actually, Kuzma is out tonight as well.
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As much as I'd love PHI to lose in our quest to move up in the standings... I also wouldn't mind if they pummel the Lakers and their "valuable trade assets" tonight >:( ::)
Would’ve loved to see McConnell harass Lonzo
Lonzo is out injured (4-6 weeks).
Yeah, hence would've. Guess I'll settle for Embiid bullying Zubac a bit
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As much as I'd love PHI to lose in our quest to move up in the standings... I also wouldn't mind if they pummel the Lakers and their "valuable trade assets" tonight >:( ::)
Would’ve loved to see McConnell harass Lonzo
Lonzo is out injured (4-6 weeks).
Yeah, hence would've. Guess I'll settle for Embiid bullying Zubac a bit
Is it just me... or does Lonzo get injured at the most coincidental times? He also got surgery I think around the time the Kawhi to LAL rumors were heating up this past June/July, and now this close to AD's trade request timeline :P
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As much as I'd love PHI to lose in our quest to move up in the standings... I also wouldn't mind if they pummel the Lakers and their "valuable trade assets" tonight >:( ::)
Would’ve loved to see McConnell harass Lonzo
Lonzo is out injured.
Yeah I think that's why he said, "would've". Either way the Lakers have a pretty tough stretch coming up. If Lebron remains out for some more time and the Jazz, Clippers keep rising then their chances of making the playoffs get a lot tougher. I still think they make it but probably as a 7-8 seed
Actually, Kuzma is out tonight as well.
Bron does not have time to play basketball...he is too busy scheming how to make his next dollar .
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I never get tired of watching the Lakers lose...
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We kind of need the Lakers to win. The sac pick depends on it
Lakers Might have a higher pick than Sacramento if they don't make the playoffs
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So anyone else find it strange that AD was out with the team tonight while all of this is going on? Sure doesn’t seem like a guy who expects to be traded in the next eight days.
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And now even Jahlil Okafor is playing better than max player Gordon Hayward.... Has made more points in one game than Haywards last 6.
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And now even Jahlil Okafor is playing better than max player Gordon Hayward.... Has made more points in one game than Haywards last 6.
Offer him a max contract then.
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And now even Jahlil Okafor is playing better than max player Gordon Hayward.... Has made more points in one game than Haywards last 6.
I still take Gordon Hayward though it’s good that Jahill is doing well.
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And now even Jahlil Okafor is playing better than max player Gordon Hayward.... Has made more points in one game than Haywards last 6.
Real bottom of the barrel stuff from you
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And now even Jahlil Okafor is playing better than max player Gordon Hayward.... Has made more points in one game than Haywards last 6.
Real bottom of the barrel stuff from you
He deserves it.
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And now even Jahlil Okafor is playing better than max player Gordon Hayward.... Has made more points in one game than Haywards last 6.
I still take Gordon Hayward though it’s good that Jahill is doing well.
Not with how much he is being paid..
No GM is taking Hayward at his salary right now in a trade.. He is a liability and that is accdg to one Warrior player.. Cough draymond green cough...
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And now even Jahlil Okafor is playing better than max player Gordon Hayward.... Has made more points in one game than Haywards last 6.
I still take Gordon Hayward though it’s good that Jahill is doing well.
Not with how much he is being paid..
No GM is taking Hayward at his salary right now in a trade.. He is a liability and that is accdg to one Warrior player.. Cough draymond green cough...
Why would we want to trade him though? As if he is the reason we're struggling. You remember how we hit our first 4 threes against the Nets and how me missed open shots against the Warriors? Is that his fault? Hit those shots and its a different game
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And now even Jahlil Okafor is playing better than max player Gordon Hayward.... Has made more points in one game than Haywards last 6.
I still take Gordon Hayward though it’s good that Jahill is doing well.
Not with how much he is being paid..
No GM is taking Hayward at his salary right now in a trade.. He is a liability and that is accdg to one Warrior player.. Cough draymond green cough...
Lol. The fact that you're buying into what a Warrior obviously said to try and cause division in our locker-room is a pretty stellar example of confirmation bias.
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And now even Jahlil Okafor is playing better than max player Gordon Hayward.... Has made more points in one game than Haywards last 6.
I still take Gordon Hayward though it’s good that Jahill is doing well.
Not with how much he is being paid..
No GM is taking Hayward at his salary right now in a trade.. He is a liability and that is accdg to one Warrior player.. Cough draymond green cough...
I agree. I think we'd have to attach some of our championship banners in a trade to unload Hayward at this point.
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Man, Toronto isn’t really a great 3 pt shooting team.
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magic beat indy...tied in loss column
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magic beat indy...tied in loss column
Very nice. We should be aiming for the #2 seed. Realistically we won’t be catching Milwaukee, especially if they hold on to the big lead tonight @Toronto
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magic beat indy...tied in loss column
Very nice. We should be aiming for the #2 seed. Realistically we won’t be catching Milwaukee, especially if they hold on to the big lead tonight @Toronto
I think 3 seed is where the Cs will wind up. It would be tough to catch Toronto at #2. As long as they are playing good ball going into the playoffs I’ll take my chances with the Cs roster. Getting Hayward to resemble something to normal Hayward in the next 2 months will be key.
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Siakam is going to drag Toronto back into this by himself.
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I am not going to write off the #1 seed yet. It's possible. Not probable, but I have seen teams make up more ground in less time than the 4.5 to 5 games they are out of first right now in the season.
I think 2nd very doable.
3rd most likely and probably very close back. Like 2 games.
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Milwaukee is our toughest competition to getting out of the East.
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Giannis is league MVP. Scary.
Hard to believe we beat them last season without Kyrie.
They are a much better team this year.
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I am not going to write off the #1 seed yet. It's possible. Not probable, but I have seen teams make up more ground in less time than the 4.5 to 5 games they are out of first right now in the season.
I think 2nd very doable.
3rd most likely and probably very close back. Like 2 games.
I’d be happy with 3rd seed.
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That Clippers team is a tough bunch....
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Philly is hanging with the Warriors in Golden State thus far.
Simmons with a strong frist half: 17 points (6-7 FG, 5-5 FT), 5 boards, 3 assists, 3 steals.
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Giannis is league MVP. Scary.
Hard to believe we beat them last season without Kyrie.
They are a much better team this year.
The coaching was dire last season.
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Giannis is league MVP. Scary.
Hard to believe we beat them last season without Kyrie.
They are a much better team this year.
If Giannis wins MVP ahead of Harden I'd be flat out amazed.
When we lost to them we were missing Horford, Morris and Baynes. Still like our chances against them. Brad is deadly when he has lots of time to focus on one team game after game.
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Well, so much for gaining a game on Philly tonight.
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NBA officiating is such a joke. Lance blatantly elbows Boban in the face on the way up for a layup, and they call nothing after review when we’ve seen a T called there numerous other times.
Just pure inconsistency and incompetence by the refs. It’s like they literally flip a coin to determine certain calls ::)
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Wow 76ers walked into Oracle Arena pummeled them.
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NBA officiating is such a joke. Lance blatantly elbows Boban in the face on the way up for a layup, and they call nothing after review when we’ve seen a T called there numerous other times.
Just pure inconsistency and incompetence by the refs. It’s like they literally flip a coin to determine certain calls ::)
Yeah, doesn't look like it was any accident either. Not part of a natural lay-up motion.
NBA officiating is such a joke. Lance blatantly elbows Boban in the face on the way up for a layup, and they call nothing after review when we’ve seen a T called there numerous other times.
Just pure inconsistency and incompetence by the refs. It’s like they literally flip a coin to determine certain calls ::)
Really hurts them when one of their starters sit now, as their depth is worse than ever before. If one of them leave in FA it could spell trouble
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NBA officiating is such a joke. Lance blatantly elbows Boban in the face on the way up for a layup, and they call nothing after review when we’ve seen a T called there numerous other times.
Just pure inconsistency and incompetence by the refs. It’s like they literally flip a coin to determine certain calls ::)
Just finished watching that game. That stretch where Harrell got called for a bunch of nonsense really cost the Clippers.
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Utah leads Houston 83 to 71 at halftime. What in the world...?
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Utah leads Houston 83 to 71 at halftime. What in the world...?
Assuming you mean Denver, yeah, how crazy are the point numbers. Malik Beasley is scorching the Rockets.
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Utah leads Houston 83 to 71 at halftime. What in the world...?
Assuming you mean Denver, yeah, how crazy are the point numbers. Malik Beasley is scorching the Rockets.
TP, *Denver - I was flipping back and forth. Yeah, Beasley went off tonight. Monte Morris is also a heck of a player. It's crazy to see how much offense is beginning to trump defense. If I remember right, the league avg PPG has increased each year for like a decade, with the greatest jump occurring this season.
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They're keeping harden in the game to pad his points and keep the streak Alive
Lol
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Harden got his 30. Crazy
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https://mobile.twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1091897576079704064
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https://mobile.twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1091897576079704064
They could take back an injured player as long as he was coming back heathy soon, but I wonder if the Pelicans will take back a dead player in a trade :P
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Rondo can still make things tuff on any team when hes on top of his game . GS get n all they want from Bron less LA.
Rondo is still tuff
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Curry no points ...wow
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Rondo can still make things tuff on any team when hes on top of his game . GS get n all they want from Bron less LA.
Rondo is still tuff
If The Lakers could play defense they would be dangerous....
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This Sixers/Kings game is a bit of a win/win or lose/lose for us, depending upon your philosophical perspective. Sixers losing to the Kings would help us in the East standings, but it would hurt the Kings' pick, which could be instrumental in any AD trade.
A real Sophie's Choice decision for who to root for here! :o
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Rondo can still make things tuff on any team when hes on top of his game . GS get n all they want from Bron less LA.
Rondo is still tuff
If The Lakers could play defense they would be dangerous....
they can't. Lebrons too old for that lol
All those years of lebron fans calling our Boston big 3 old. Now I can do it to them
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Rondo can still make things tuff on any team when hes on top of his game . GS get n all they want from Bron less LA.
Rondo is still tuff
If The Lakers could play defense they would be dangerous....
they can't. Lebrons too old for that lol
LeBron = Danny Glover!
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Curry no points ...wow
Aaand he just scored 10 in like 1 minute to blow this game wide open
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Monte Morris should be a trade target for the Celts.
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LeBron sitting out because he can't fathom losing to the Warriors again. Notice how he hasn't played in most of the games with the Warriors this year.
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LeBron sitting out because he can't fathom losing to the Warriors again. Notice how he hasn't played in most of the games with the Warriors this year.
I've noticed something else- as the Lakers started losing and lost their playoff seeding, mr never injured suddenly got "injured." he doesn't want to be blamed as the reason for a team not making the playoffs. It wouldn't be "goat-like" for a goat to not make the playoffs
I'm actually curious if Lebrons willing to tank this season to enter the draft lottery. There, he knows his buddy Silver will rig it and give the Lakers the #1 pick
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Welp, the Kings won against Philly. Sucks for the Kings pick, but a win tomorrow will put us in third place in the East!
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Big confrontation in the locker room between a couple of players and Luke Walton per Shams.
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1091935895656255489?s=21
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Big confrontation in the locker room between a couple of players and Luke Walton per Shams.
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1091935895656255489?s=21
Lol two ways to look at this:
(a) Like everything else that we have seen this week, this is a calculated move by Paul and Lebron to meet their goal of getting Walton fired, likely leading to another ClutchSports product (Mark Jackson) stepping in as coach; or
(b) This was an inevitability, given the volatile characters they stuffed that locker room with.
I think this is a bit of both. I guarantee Lebron and Paul have been sowing some discontent trying to get more support for getting Walton out of there, but I also think that's easy given the characters they have in that locker room. Just look at Shams' report of who was involved:
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1091938481989996544
Veterans, including Beasley, JaVale McGee and Lance Stephenson, challenged Walton in postgame locker room, sources said. Those involved were separated before anything escalated.
But, yes, AD, this is clearly the "best" situation and environment for you moving forward ;D
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Big confrontation in the locker room between a couple of players and Luke Walton per Shams.
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1091935895656255489?s=21
Lol two ways to look at this:
(a) Like everything else that we have seen this week, this is a calculated move by Paul and Lebron to meet their goal of getting Walton fired, likely leading to another ClutchSports product (Mark Jackson) stepping in as coach; or
(b) This was an inevitability, given the volatile characters they stuffed that locker room with.
I think this is a bit of both. I guarantee Lebron and Paul have been sowing some discontent trying to get more support for getting Walton out of there, but I also think that's easy given the characters they have in that locker room. Just look at Shams' report of who was involved:
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1091938481989996544
Veterans, including Beasley, JaVale McGee and Lance Stephenson, challenged Walton in postgame locker room, sources said. Those involved were separated before anything escalated.
But, yes, AD, this is clearly the "best" situation and environment for you moving forward ;D
Man, if Lakers go after another Klutch guy to be coach they are going to look sooooooo bad in the eyes of NBA managements etc. An agency (basically managed by Lebron) is legit running the Lakers. The Lakers sold their soul to Lebron.
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So wait, you mean to tell me signing a bunch of hot headed boneheads on the same team has caused a dysfunctional locker room? Lol
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So wait, you mean to tell me signing a bunch of hot headed boneheads on the same team has caused a dysfunctional locker room? Lol
It was waiting to happen signing a bunch of misfits into one team. Particularly Stephenson, McGee, and Beasley. You can add Rondo into that mix too.
And then ofc there's the LeRecruiter James drama queen and his agent Rich Paul trying to run this team.
And then there's the sorry bum Lonzo Ball and his dad.
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So wait, you mean to tell me signing a bunch of hot headed boneheads on the same team has caused a dysfunctional locker room? Lol
It was waiting to happen signing a bunch of misfits into one team. Particularly Stephenson, McGee, and Beasley. You can add Rondo into that mix too.
And then ofc there's the LeRecruiter James drama queen and his agent Rich Paul trying to run this team.
And then there's the sorry bum Lonzo Ball and his dad.
Man, just imagine if Lavar comes out of the woodwork now. Feed this drama into my veins.
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How many days until Walton gets fired? I bet its less than two weeks.
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So, I wasn't able to watch the GS/Lakers game. I did hear that Jackson was saying that NOLA should've taken the original Lakers deal, but on Twitter I'm reading that he was doing a whole bunch of other hyping of the Lakers players, such as saying that Zubac is "a young Marc Gasol" and other things.
Is this true? Did other people hear stuff like this? If so, the league really has to get involved here with the Klutch Sports group. Not only has this seemingly taken over an entire organization, but if it's now starting to impact national television broadcasts, that's insane.
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So, I wasn't able to watch the GS/Lakers game. I did hear that Jackson was saying that NOLA should've taken the original Lakers deal, but on Twitter I'm reading that he was doing a whole bunch of other hyping of the Lakers players, such as saying that Zubac is "a young Marc Gasol" and other things.
Is this true?[/b] Did other people hear stuff like this? If so, the league really has to get involved here with the Klutch Sports group. Not only has this seemingly taken over an entire organization, but if it's now starting to impact national television broadcasts, that's insane.
YES
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How many days until Walton gets fired? I bet its less than two weeks.
It might be less than 2 days at the rate the Klutch propaganda is going out at.
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Here you go:
https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/mark-jackson-pelicans-trade-anthony-davis-lakers/483176
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So, I wasn't able to watch the GS/Lakers game. I did hear that Jackson was saying that NOLA should've taken the original Lakers deal, but on Twitter I'm reading that he was doing a whole bunch of other hyping of the Lakers players, such as saying that Zubac is "a young Marc Gasol" and other things.
Is this true? Did other people hear stuff like this? If so, the league really has to get involved here with the Klutch Sports group. Not only has this seemingly taken over an entire organization, but if it's now starting to impact national television broadcasts, that's insane.
Yes, he did compare Zubac with Marc Gasol. The hyping of Zubac is ridiculous.
A couple of weeks ago he wasn't even in the rotation and got DNP after DNP. I think the Lakers were even close to cutting him (like they did with Thomas Bryant).
Sure Zubac has some talent, but he isn't more valuable than for instance Robert Williams. If I had to make a choice between Zubac and Williams, I take Williams without question.
I do have to admit that the Lakers drafted very well last year with #25 Wagner, #39 Bonga and #47 Mykhailiuk, I think those three all have the chance to become NBA players.
Edit: I see radiohead, above me, shows more evidence why Mark Jackson is biased. TP's for jpotter33 and radiohead, for further deciphering (I had to look this word up on google ;D) conspiracies.
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So, I wasn't able to watch the GS/Lakers game. I did hear that Jackson was saying that NOLA should've taken the original Lakers deal, but on Twitter I'm reading that he was doing a whole bunch of other hyping of the Lakers players, such as saying that Zubac is "a young Marc Gasol" and other things.
Is this true? Did other people hear stuff like this? If so, the league really has to get involved here with the Klutch Sports group. Not only has this seemingly taken over an entire organization, but if it's now starting to impact national television broadcasts, that's insane.
Yes, he did compare Zubac with Marc Gasol. The hyping of Zubac is ridiculous.
A couple of weeks ago he wasn't even in the rotation and got DNP after DNP. I think the Lakers were even close to cutting him (like they did with Thomas Bryant).
Sure Zubac has some talent, but he isn't more valuable than for instance Robert Williams. If I had to make a choice between Zubac and Williams, I take Williams without question.
I do have to admit that the Lakers drafted very well last year with #25 Wagner, #39 Bonga and #47 Mykhailiuk, I think those three all have the chance to become NBA players.
Edit: I see radiohead, above me, shows more evidence why Mark Jackson is biased. TP's for jpotter33 and radiohead, for further deciphering (I had to look this word up on google ;D) conspiracies.
They passed on Williams to take Wagner which was a big mistake in my opinion.
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So wait, you mean to tell me signing a bunch of hot headed boneheads on the same team has caused a dysfunctional locker room? Lol
It was waiting to happen signing a bunch of misfits into one team. Particularly Stephenson, McGee, and Beasley. You can add Rondo into that mix too.
And then ofc there's the LeRecruiter James drama queen and his agent Rich Paul trying to run this team.
And then there's the sorry bum Lonzo Ball and his dad.
Or it is a bunch overblown nonsense. Saying it cooled off before it ever got physical without anything to support that it actually got close to being physical is pure crap. You could say that about any heated verbal confrontation that doesn't get physical. Here's some pushback on the notion.
“It never got close to getting out of control, people are always emotional after a loss,” a source told ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne. Another claimed to ESPN’s Ohm Youngmisuk that it was “way overhyped.”
“Nothing crazy happened,” an unidentified Lakers player explained to The Undefeated’s Marc Spears. “Luke said some things. The players said some things back. No one was disrespected. Nothing crazy was said.”
Another veteran, Lance Stephenson, posted a message on his Instagram account denying any involvement in the dispute.“Media decided to add Lance Stephenson … I’m in a very happy place … Nothing but positive,” he wrote. “If u going to write a story get the real facts please.”
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So, I wasn't able to watch the GS/Lakers game. I did hear that Jackson was saying that NOLA should've taken the original Lakers deal, but on Twitter I'm reading that he was doing a whole bunch of other hyping of the Lakers players, such as saying that Zubac is "a young Marc Gasol" and other things.
Is this true? Did other people hear stuff like this? If so, the league really has to get involved here with the Klutch Sports group. Not only has this seemingly taken over an entire organization, but if it's now starting to impact national television broadcasts, that's insane.
Yes, he did compare Zubac with Marc Gasol. The hyping of Zubac is ridiculous.
A couple of weeks ago he wasn't even in the rotation and got DNP after DNP. I think the Lakers were even close to cutting him (like they did with Thomas Bryant).
Sure Zubac has some talent, but he isn't more valuable than for instance Robert Williams. If I had to make a choice between Zubac and Williams, I take Williams without question.
I do have to admit that the Lakers drafted very well last year with #25 Wagner, #39 Bonga and #47 Mykhailiuk, I think those three all have the chance to become NBA players.
Edit: I see radiohead, above me, shows more evidence why Mark Jackson is biased. TP's for jpotter33 and radiohead, for further deciphering (I had to look this word up on google ;D) conspiracies.
They passed on Williams to take Wagner which was a big mistake in my opinion.
Still Wagner seems like a nice player. Not bad at that draft position. But yes, it was pretty incredible that we got Williams. It was like the other teams were helping us. Just guard after guard, and wing after wing, and leaving the big guy on the board that we needed.
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I have something to say about the game Los Angeles Clippers @ Toronto Raptors: the wrong team is winning.
Raptors ahead 14 halfway the 3rd quarter.
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Who do we want to win in raptors philly game (in philly). Philly falls to 4th or 5th depending on what Indy does. We could be all alone in 3rd by end of night. If Raptors lose we inch another game closer to them (though their schedule is easy coming up).
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Who do we want to win in raptors philly game (in philly). Philly falls to 4th or 5th depending on what Indy does. We could be all alone in 3rd by end of night. If Raptors lose we inch another game closer to them (though their schedule is easy coming up).
I want Philly to win. I'm confident that Boston can keep the 76ers behind them.
Come on, lets hunt some Raptors!
(I might not have paid enough attention when watching Jurassic Park ;) )
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Who do we want to win in raptors philly game (in philly). Philly falls to 4th or 5th depending on what Indy does. We could be all alone in 3rd by end of night. If Raptors lose we inch another game closer to them (though their schedule is easy coming up).
I want Philly to win. I'm confident that Boston can keep the 76ers behind them.
Come on, lets hunt some Raptors!
(I might not have paid enough attention when watching Jurassic Park ;) )
I feel like I agree in theory with rooting against Toronto, but in practice it’s unnatural to be rooting for the Sixers or any Philly team.
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How good are The Lakers going to be with Davis and gimpy LeBron and no one else?
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How good are The Lakers going to be with Davis and gimpy LeBron and no one else?
The first round match up with GSW would be insane. Tons of drama and entertainment, and headlines too.
Warriors in 4.
:P
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How good are The Lakers going to be with Davis and gimpy LeBron and no one else?
The first round match up with GSW would be insane. Tons of drama and entertainment, and headlines too.
Warriors in 4.
:P
All those Lakers players who are waiting to be traded look done.
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Lakers down by 30 to an Oladipo-less Pacers (and Lebron is playing...)
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Lakers down by 30 to an Oladipo-less Pacers (and Lebron is playing...)
Down 42 now....
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Lakers down by 30 to an Oladipo-less Pacers (and Lebron is playing...)
Down 42 now....
Haha. That team is imploding.
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Lakers down by 30 to an Oladipo-less Pacers (and Lebron is playing...)
Down 42 now....
Haha. That team is imploding.
Announcing that they don't value anyone on the team but LeBron might've been a mistake... ;D
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The Sixers have no outside shooting....
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Lakers down by 30 to an Oladipo-less Pacers (and Lebron is playing...)
Down 42 now....
Haha. That team is imploding.
Announcing that they don't value anyone on the team but LeBron might've been a mistake... ;D
keep the kids and trade off the old Gezzer
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Lakers down by 30 to an Oladipo-less Pacers (and Lebron is playing...)
Down 42 now....
Haha. That team is imploding.
Announcing that they don't value anyone on the team but LeBron might've been a mistake... ;D
keep the kids and trade off the old Gezzer
You mean geezer? ::)
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Lakers getting blown out tonight with LeBron James means they are going to play some smash-mouth, blood-thirst basketball in their next game. With some incentives as how their Anthony Davis trade is slowly falling apart because of a certain team always trying to chime in.
I don't like the sound of that at the TD Garden, gulp.
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Lakers getting blown out tonight with LeBron James means they are going to play some smash-mouth, blood-thirst basketball in their next game. With some incentives as how their Anthony Davis trade is slowly falling apart because of a certain team always trying to chime in.
I don't like the sound of that at the TD Garden, gulp.
Won't The Lakers be down like 10 players on Thursday? ::)
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Lakers getting blown out tonight with LeBron James means they are going to play some smash-mouth, blood-thirst basketball in their next game. With some incentives as how their Anthony Davis trade is slowly falling apart because of a certain team always trying to chime in.
I don't like the sound of that at the TD Garden, gulp.
Won't The Lakers be down like 10 players on Thursday? ::)
No but there will be one player not playing due to severe depression of knowing he won't be playing with Anthony Davis any time soon. My guess is Lebron will need another day of rest Thursday night and Celtics win by 30 or more.
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Lakers getting blown out tonight with LeBron James means they are going to play some smash-mouth, blood-thirst basketball in their next game. With some incentives as how their Anthony Davis trade is slowly falling apart because of a certain team always trying to chime in.
I don't like the sound of that at the TD Garden, gulp.
Won't The Lakers be down like 10 players on Thursday? ::)
No but there will be one player not playing due to severe depression of knowing he won't be playing with Anthony Davis any time soon. My guess is Lebron will need another day of rest Thursday night and Celtics win by 30 or more.
good. a Laker-whipping is always good for the fanbase's morale. would be sweeter if Bron was on the court to take a licking
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What do people think of lakers are only team keeling kings out of playoffs? Would we rather have pick 18?
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This is pure gold from silver screw and roll :
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i don’t want any thing to do with Clutch sports, i don’t want AD, i don’t want Lebron, i don’t even want KCP on his BS contracts… we have become the LA Clutch Sports instead of the LA Lakers…i just want that whole clutch sports movement gone out of LA, i don’t even care what we get in return. probably ain’t much because it would get super nasty and like somebody above already mentioned he would threat with retirement…i don’t know what you do…but i do know it has been the worst year ever…even the wasted years before this one was more fun to watch, despite the losses at least we saw some young players blossom, right now we just look lost, pathetic, frustrated and it’s almost like nobody wants to even ball anymore with all this drama...”
Hmm Durant was onto something two months ago
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This is pure gold from silver screw and roll :
“....
i don’t want any thing to do with Clutch sports, i don’t want AD, i don’t want Lebron, i don’t even want KCP on his BS contracts… we have become the LA Clutch Sports instead of the LA Lakers…i just want that whole clutch sports movement gone out of LA, i don’t even care what we get in return. probably ain’t much because it would get super nasty and like somebody above already mentioned he would threat with retirement…i don’t know what you do…but i do know it has been the worst year ever…even the wasted years before this one was more fun to watch, despite the losses at least we saw some young players blossom, right now we just look lost, pathetic, frustrated and it’s almost like nobody wants to even ball anymore with all this drama...”
Hmm Durant was onto something two months ago
Yeah KD was spot on. It’s also why I find it hilarious there’s even suggestions that Kyrie or KD will join LAL. Kyrie himself hates feeling like a pawn and going back on a Lebron team will make him feel the same way.
Even tonight, Lebron didn’t even sit with his team apparently. He sat like 4 seats away from a player. And his postgame comments didn’t even sound like he was defending his young teammates and vouching for them.
The media loves LBJ and they are helping him. Unfortunately for the rest of the Lakers, they will suffer. Even some LAL fans are seeing this now.
Lakers fans would call me delusional for saying it, but let’s face it. Lebron controls that team now. Not Magic, not the others in the FA.
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Lakers getting blown out tonight with LeBron James means they are going to play some smash-mouth, blood-thirst basketball in their next game. With some incentives as how their Anthony Davis trade is slowly falling apart because of a certain team always trying to chime in.
I don't like the sound of that at the TD Garden, gulp.
I don’t care who wins on Thursday as along as that deadline passes with AD still in Cajun country.
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Lakers getting blown out tonight with LeBron James means they are going to play some smash-mouth, blood-thirst basketball in their next game. With some incentives as how their Anthony Davis trade is slowly falling apart because of a certain team always trying to chime in.
I don't like the sound of that at the TD Garden, gulp.
I don’t care who wins on Thursday as along as that deadline passes with AD still in Cajun country.
bingo ...thats the real victory for the good guys ! :D
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This is pure gold from silver screw and roll :
“....
i don’t want any thing to do with Clutch sports, i don’t want AD, i don’t want Lebron, i don’t even want KCP on his BS contracts… we have become the LA Clutch Sports instead of the LA Lakers…i just want that whole clutch sports movement gone out of LA, i don’t even care what we get in return. probably ain’t much because it would get super nasty and like somebody above already mentioned he would threat with retirement…i don’t know what you do…but i do know it has been the worst year ever…even the wasted years before this one was more fun to watch, despite the losses at least we saw some young players blossom, right now we just look lost, pathetic, frustrated and it’s almost like nobody wants to even ball anymore with all this drama...”
Hmm Durant was onto something two months ago
Yeah KD was spot on. It’s also why I find it hilarious there’s even suggestions that Kyrie or KD will join LAL. Kyrie himself hates feeling like a pawn and going back on a Lebron team will make him feel the same way.
Even tonight, Lebron didn’t even sit with his team apparently. He sat like 4 seats away from a player. And his postgame comments didn’t even sound like he was defending his young teammates and vouching for them.
The media loves LBJ and they are helping him. Unfortunately for the rest of the Lakers, they will suffer. Even some LAL fans are seeing this now.
Lakers fans would call me delusional for saying it, but let’s face it. Lebron controls that team now. Not Magic, not the others in the FA.
you are correct far as im concerned . He needed a place with WILLiNG victums ....a place he could move in and set up shop. AS an added bonus LA is where all the money and FA want to live . So ....basically Magic took the bait and let the FOX in the hen house . Use the Lakers team to make him as much money as possible before he is in a wheel chair . If he succeeds , he may want to run the Lakers after he retires . Although i bet he reallynwants to own Cavs , that is his utlimate pay back to that owner . Its ALWAYS about LEBRON ....nobody should everbthink different
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Milwaukee put up 80 in a half.
EDIT: 85
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Milwaukee put up 80 in a half.
They gave up 60 to a gutted Washington team....
Edit: 64
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Milwaukee put up 80 in a half.
They gave up 60 to a gutted Washington team....
Edit: 62
But they laid 50 on them in one quarter...sheesh. If the bucks keep this rolling we are going to have our hands full with them in the playoffs.
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Milwaukee put up 80 in a half.
They gave up 60 to a gutted Washington team....
Edit: 62
But the laid 50 on them in one quarter...sheesh. If the bucks keep this rolling we are going to have our hands full with them in the playoffs.
No defense is being played.
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Folks seem to be sleeping on the Clippers. Everyone talks about the other LA team, but I could easily see 1 or even 2 of KD/Kemba/Kawhi/Klay/Butler heading there and/or possibly an AD trade + 1 max-signing.
I would honestly love to see that to spite the Lakers as well :laugh:
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Folks seem to be sleeping on the Clippers. Everyone talks about the other LA team, but I could easily see 1 or even 2 of KD/Kemba/Kawhi/Klay/Butler heading there and/or possibly an AD trade + 1 max-signing.
I would honestly love to see that to spite the Lakers as well :laugh:
Where are people getting this notion that LAC can trade for AD? They don't have near the assets to get AD. From a player perspective, their young prospects are probably even less attractive than the combination of the Lakers' young guys. And from a pick perspective, the only really valuable pick they have is the Miami pick they just got in the trade for Harris, but that is probably not even as valuable as our Grizzlies pick given each team's roster and overall direction moving forward.
They just simply don't have enough to trade for AD. In fact, I think the Lakers' offer is quite a bit better than anything the Clippers could offer.
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Nets beat the nuggets. I would prefer if we don’t see them in the first round
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Nets beat the nuggets. I would prefer if we don’t see them in the first round
But we will, unless the Raptors are going to be in a slump and there's few reason to believe that happens.
I'm already happy that Philadelphia and the Bucks probably are going to tangle with each other in the second round.
I'd rather see the Bucks having success than the 76ers, but I think we'll have a bigger chance beating the 76ers in the conference finals (if we get there).
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Folks seem to be sleeping on the Clippers. Everyone talks about the other LA team, but I could easily see 1 or even 2 of KD/Kemba/Kawhi/Klay/Butler heading there and/or possibly an AD trade + 1 max-signing.
I would honestly love to see that to spite the Lakers as well :laugh:
Where are people getting this notion that LAC can trade for AD? They don't have near the assets to get AD. From a player perspective, their young prospects are probably even less attractive than the combination of the Lakers' young guys. And from a pick perspective, the only really valuable pick they have is the Miami pick they just got in the trade for Harris, but that is probably not even as valuable as our Grizzlies pick given each team's roster and overall direction moving forward.
They just simply don't have enough to trade for AD. In fact, I think the Lakers' offer is quite a bit better than anything the Clippers could offer.
I agree, but if I am NO, the Miami pick and Shai are a better player and pick than anything the Lakers can offer. Lakers are just trying to trade 8 dimes for a dollar.
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Nets beat the nuggets. I would prefer if we don’t see them in the first round
Me too, but Nets can be quite good at home and the Nuggets are not a good road team, they have a negative point differential on the road.
The Celtics need to be good enough that it doesn't matter who they play in round 1 if they get a top 3-4 seed, & realistically they kinda have to try to get a top 2-3 seed.
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Folks seem to be sleeping on the Clippers. Everyone talks about the other LA team, but I could easily see 1 or even 2 of KD/Kemba/Kawhi/Klay/Butler heading there and/or possibly an AD trade + 1 max-signing.
I would honestly love to see that to spite the Lakers as well :laugh:
IMO they can make a competetive trade for Davis now, and sign a max free agent, and use Gallinari's expiring to net another max free agent.
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All this because of a post/comment on a Lakers blog? Come on guys. Everything is media hype. Players including Lebron haven't said a word yet fans are assuming all kinds of stuff. Same thing with KD and the Knicks. Don't get too sucked in by the media drama.
This is pure gold from silver screw and roll :
“....
i don’t want any thing to do with Clutch sports, i don’t want AD, i don’t want Lebron, i don’t even want KCP on his BS contracts… we have become the LA Clutch Sports instead of the LA Lakers…i just want that whole clutch sports movement gone out of LA, i don’t even care what we get in return. probably ain’t much because it would get super nasty and like somebody above already mentioned he would threat with retirement…i don’t know what you do…but i do know it has been the worst year ever…even the wasted years before this one was more fun to watch, despite the losses at least we saw some young players blossom, right now we just look lost, pathetic, frustrated and it’s almost like nobody wants to even ball anymore with all this drama...”
Hmm Durant was onto something two months ago
Yeah KD was spot on. It’s also why I find it hilarious there’s even suggestions that Kyrie or KD will join LAL. Kyrie himself hates feeling like a pawn and going back on a Lebron team will make him feel the same way.
Even tonight, Lebron didn’t even sit with his team apparently. He sat like 4 seats away from a player. And his postgame comments didn’t even sound like he was defending his young teammates and vouching for them.
The media loves LBJ and they are helping him. Unfortunately for the rest of the Lakers, they will suffer. Even some LAL fans are seeing this now.
Lakers fans would call me delusional for saying it, but let’s face it. Lebron controls that team now. Not Magic, not the others in the FA.
you are correct far as im concerned . He needed a place with WILLiNG victums ....a place he could move in and set up shop. AS an added bonus LA is where all the money and FA want to live . So ....basically Magic took the bait and let the FOX in the hen house . Use the Lakers team to make him as much money as possible before he is in a wheel chair . If he succeeds , he may want to run the Lakers after he retires . Although i bet he reallynwants to own Cavs , that is his utlimate pay back to that owner . Its ALWAYS about LEBRON ....nobody should everbthink different
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Sixers were up 52-36, and then Nuggets go on a quick 20-4 run to tie it at halftime :o
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Sixers were up 52-36, and then Nuggets go on a quick 20-4 run to tie it at halftime :o
Without 40% of their starting unit, who are both probably their two best defensive starters.
Still ain’t scared of Philly
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Sixers were up 52-36, and then Nuggets go on a quick 20-4 run to tie it at halftime :o
Without 40% of their starting unit, who are both probably their two best defensive starters.
Still ain’t scared of Philly
I think everyone's playing for PHI though?
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Have to admit, the rest of this season is going to be extremely awkward between AD and the Pelicans organization.
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Sixers were up 52-36, and then Nuggets go on a quick 20-4 run to tie it at halftime :o
Without 40% of their starting unit, who are both probably their two best defensive starters.
Still ain’t scared of Philly
I suspect that will change Tuesday night
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Have to admit, the rest of this season is going to be extremely awkward between AD and the Pelicans organization.
Yeah, they keep showing the Pelicans owner and Dell Demps while the crowd is mixed between boos and cheer everytime AD touches the ball.
This is obvious, but like three teams have been very much affected the rest of this season due to the inexplicable Rose Rule. If the Cs had just been allowed to trade for AD THIS season, the Cs, Pels, and Lakers would have been able to move on with their lives. Now NOP is 'stuck' with AD and the Cs/Lakers have a whole bunch of players who know they are not wanted. It's just weird.
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Have to admit, the rest of this season is going to be extremely awkward between AD and the Pelicans organization.
Yeah, they keep showing the Pelicans owner and Dell Demps while the crowd is mixed between boos and cheer everytime AD touches the ball.
This is obvious, but like three teams have been very much affected the rest of this season due to the inexplicable Rose Rule. If the Cs had just been allowed to trade for AD THIS season, the Cs, Pels, and Lakers would have been able to move on with their lives. Now NOP is 'stuck' with AD and the Cs/Lakers have a whole bunch of players who know they are not wanted. It's just weird.
Yep. And I LOVE Jeff Van Gundy tearing the league about this.
Jeff Van Gundy believes the Pelicans should take a stand for themselves & other small-market teams by accepting the reported $100K per game fine if a healthy Anthony Davis is seated. Gundy: “The NBA is trying to bully her [Gayle Benson] & threaten her with unduly harsh fines.”
Listen. The league wants Anthony Davis in LA. “They don’t mind tampering.” - Jeff Van Gundy speaking truth on the ESPN broadcast
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I may not like Kelly Oubre for his scuffles with Kelly Olynyk back in the days, but I love watching Draymond Green get ejected because Oubre near-headbutted him and Green was crying over it to the ref and T'ed him up.
Hate that piece of garbage Green. Tackle people like a football player and kick people's nuts but whines every time.
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Kings down 9 to Miami, then go on a 17-2 run to end the game. Of course they do.
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Kings down 9 to Miami, then go on a 17-2 run to end the game. Of course they do.
Kings will upset Golden State Warriors and win NBA Championship, calling it! 8)
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Why don't they just play AD for 1 minute and sit his ass the rest of the game. Problem solved.
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I may not like Kelly Oubre for his scuffles with Kelly Olynyk back in the days, but I love watching Draymond Green get ejected because Oubre near-headbutted him and Green was crying over it to the ref and T'ed him up.
Hate that piece of garbage Green. Tackle people like a football player and kick people's nuts but whines every time.
That was the funniest thing ;D
https://youtu.be/Bj6soesV2Pk
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Why don't they just play AD for 1 minute and sit his ass the rest of the game. Problem solved.
Apparently league rules say he has to play at least 25 MPG, otherwise they get fined if he plays less unless he gets injured.
They did that yesterday playing him exactly 25 minutes lol.
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Why don't they just play AD for 1 minute and sit his ass the rest of the game. Problem solved.
Apparently league rules say he has to play at least 25 MPG, otherwise they get fined if he plays less unless he gets injured.
They did that yesterday playing him exactly 25 minutes lol.
It's such a joke. I wish the Pelicans could give Davis the most disjointed 25 minutes possible (without any repercussions). Have him come off the bench with 5 mins left in the first quarter. Let him play 15 of the next 17 minutes to close out the first half. Then play him the first 10 minutes of the 3rd quarter and call it a day.
Probably not the best idea for the fan experience though.
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They play the Lakers at LA in a couple weeks. I HOPE that New Orleans sits him for the entire game to avoid the LA "cheering". Please New Orleans let's do that!!
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Why don't they just play AD for 1 minute and sit his ass the rest of the game. Problem solved.
Apparently league rules say he has to play at least 25 MPG, otherwise they get fined if he plays less unless he gets injured.
They did that yesterday playing him exactly 25 minutes lol.
Davis will be coming down with a bad case of plantar fasciitis very soon. Poor guy will be out the rest of the year as he rehabs on his own with a private therapy group away from the team.
So much for those fines.
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Why don't they just play AD for 1 minute and sit his ass the rest of the game. Problem solved.
Apparently league rules say he has to play at least 25 MPG, otherwise they get fined if he plays less unless he gets injured.
They did that yesterday playing him exactly 25 minutes lol.
Davis will be coming down with a bad case of plantar fasciitis very soon. Poor guy will be out the rest of the year as he rehabs on his own with a private therapy group away from the team.
So much for those fines.
That only works if AD agrees to it and AD says he wants to play.
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Why don't they just play AD for 1 minute and sit his ass the rest of the game. Problem solved.
Apparently league rules say he has to play at least 25 MPG, otherwise they get fined if he plays less unless he gets injured.
They did that yesterday playing him exactly 25 minutes lol.
Davis will be coming down with a bad case of plantar fasciitis very soon. Poor guy will be out the rest of the year as he rehabs on his own with a private therapy group away from the team.
So much for those fines.
That only works if AD agrees to it and AD says he wants to play.
Very true, unless he gets sick of hearing all the crap. That locker room has got to be one of the 2 most toxic locker rooms in the league, along with the Lakers, as well.
We will see.
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Why don't they just play AD for 1 minute and sit his ass the rest of the game. Problem solved.
Apparently league rules say he has to play at least 25 MPG, otherwise they get fined if he plays less unless he gets injured.
They did that yesterday playing him exactly 25 minutes lol.
Davis will be coming down with a bad case of plantar fasciitis very soon. Poor guy will be out the rest of the year as he rehabs on his own with a private therapy group away from the team.
So much for those fines.
That only works if AD agrees to it and AD says he wants to play.
Very true, unless he gets sick of hearing all the crap. That locker room has got to be one of the 2 most toxic locker rooms in the league, along with the Lakers, as well.
We will see.
Toxic locker rooms and losing culture gets way overplayed by fans. I don't think either of those locker rooms are toxic. After getting destroyed by Indy, Rondo calls a practice that by all accounts goes very well and when they beat us they sure didn't look downcast or disgruntled. AD is not the type to be disruptive in a locker room and I doubt any of their players begrudge him wanting a trade. Jrue Holiday is a class act so I doubt he'd let that locker room get toxic.
AD did agree to not to play in B2Bs and I expect after the all-star break when the Pels have no chance at the playoffs he'll agree to be shutdown.
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Why don't they just play AD for 1 minute and sit his ass the rest of the game. Problem solved.
Apparently league rules say he has to play at least 25 MPG, otherwise they get fined if he plays less unless he gets injured.
They did that yesterday playing him exactly 25 minutes lol.
Davis will be coming down with a bad case of plantar fasciitis very soon. Poor guy will be out the rest of the year as he rehabs on his own with a private therapy group away from the team.
So much for those fines.
That only works if AD agrees to it and AD says he wants to play.
While I fully support a player's right to demand a trade, if I was the Pelicans GM, the minute this went public I would have suspended Davis for conduct detrimental to the team.
Let the players union try to fight it if they want. The league fined Davis for his agents actions, so I have to think the union would have little leverage there.
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Lakers-Sixers this afternoon. Ugh can both teams just get blown out please :P
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Lakers-Sixers this afternoon. Ugh can both teams just get blown out please :P
Haha it’s in our best interests if the Lakers win. 76rs of course get closer to us in the standings, Lakers inch closer to the Kings because we also don’t want them to pass the Clippers this season. Stressful!
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Good start for Tobias.
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Good start for Tobias.
and kuz unfortunately
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Magic getting a head start on another Klutch client
Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
Speaking pre-game in Philly, Magic Johnson reveals that Ben Simmons wants to sit down with him this summer to trade some "big guard" secrets if the Sixers, Lakers and the league office all sign off
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Hate saying it but Kuzma is good. I don’t think it is clear that Tatum is better (not talking about age)
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23 points in the 1st quarter by Kuzma?
This guy is a real stud. No question surpasses Brown. Looks like he's about to pass Tatum as well.
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Sixers and lakers are so good offensively ( or both not playing any D :laugh:)
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Sixers and lakers are so good offensively ( or both not playing any D :laugh:)
Combination of both, although there have been multiple plays where there's literally no one guarding anyone (like Embiid running up the floor and dunking with no player in front of him) :laugh:
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fwiw, I still think come playoff time if Philly is healthy, they are the team to beat in the East. When the race is this tight, I put my money on talent. They have more talent than any other team in that conference.
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fwiw, I still think come playoff time if Philly is healthy, they are the team to beat in the East. When the race is this tight, I put my money on talent. They have more talent than any other team in that conference.
I tend to agree but I think they really need home court in the 1st 2 rounds.
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76ers look complete.
Embiid with 37 points and 14 rebs.
Harris with 22 points and 6 rebs.
Butler with 15 points and 4 rebs.
They are the team to beat in the East.
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76ers look complete.
Embiid with 37 points and 14 rebs.
Harris with 22 points and 6 rebs.
Butler with 15 points and 4 rebs.
They are the team to beat in the East.
Embiid is why Danny is all in on Davis. The Sixers do look legit.
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76ers look complete.
Embiid with 37 points and 14 rebs.
Harris with 22 points and 6 rebs.
Butler with 15 points and 4 rebs.
They are the team to beat in the East.
But Simmons is like 3/134 and the lakers are completely ignoring him. This is gonna hurt them in the playoffs again
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76ers look complete.
Embiid with 37 points and 14 rebs.
Harris with 22 points and 6 rebs.
Butler with 15 points and 4 rebs.
They are the team to beat in the East.
Embiid is why Danny is all in on Davis. The Sixers do look legit.
We need another star that’s for sure
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Not going to lie, but watching Magic almost tip-toeing back to the locker room with 3 minutes to go was funny :laugh:
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Not going to lie, but watching Magic almost tip-toeing back to the locker room with 3 minutes to go was funny :laugh:
With that said though, it still really upsets me we lost to this team. The Lakers got blown out by 40+ to IND, and we were up on them by like 20+, yet had a horrendous 2nd half SMH. We've got to play smarter and Brad has to fix these rotations. PHI designs it so that there's always at least 1 or 2 starters out there with the bench unit during the 2nd and 3rd quarters. We've got to do the same.
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Not going to lie, but watching Magic almost tip-toeing back to the locker room with 3 minutes to go was funny :laugh:
With that said though, it still really upsets me we lost to this team. The Lakers got blown out by 40+ to IND, and we were up on them by like 20+, yet had a horrendous 2nd half SMH. We've got to play smarter and Brad has to fix these rotations. PHI designs it so that there's always at least 1 or 2 starters out there with the bench unit during the 2nd and 3rd quarters. We've got to do the same.
Brad Stevens be like "nah, we're going with analytics and our one scheme offense. If my bench player is riding it hot, I'll pull him out and give another player fair minutes even if he has been cold all game long."
Yeah, Celtics should have beaten the Lakers that night. Embarrassing they lost to them at the Garden.
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76ers look complete.
Embiid with 37 points and 14 rebs.
Harris with 22 points and 6 rebs.
Butler with 15 points and 4 rebs.
They are the team to beat in the East.
Embiid is why Danny is all in on Davis. The Sixers do look legit.
We need another star that’s for sure
Embiid actually plays AD quite well. Definitely need to keep Baynes when we get AD.
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76ers look complete.
Embiid with 37 points and 14 rebs.
Harris with 22 points and 6 rebs.
Butler with 15 points and 4 rebs.
They are the team to beat in the East.
Embiid is why Danny is all in on Davis. The Sixers do look legit.
Funny enough Embiid might be better than Davis
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I recommend watching Paul George whenever he plays.
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I recommend watching Paul George whenever he plays.
Yeah I'm a big fan of George and love watching him play. I'll hate when he kills us like he almost did last week, but he seems humble and isn't a big diva or flopper. In a way I'm also kind of glad he didn't go to LA, because lets be honest, do we think he'd be playing at the MVP-caliber level he is with Lebron on his team? Either way watching George do this well gives me hope that Hayward can still return from his gruesome injury close to or even at his all-star form maybe next year. He could still help us the rest of the year and in the playoffs though probably in a primary bench role.
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Got to respect the Pacers! Keep winning without their best player.
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Got to respect the Pacers! Keep winning without their best player.
they know their roles...they remind me of us last year... Mantra is next man up and nothing to lose at this point.
I still expect them to drop below Philly though but probably will have the juices left to stay on top of us for the 4th seed.
probably its for the best for us to stay in the 4-5th seed since i cannot see the Pacers keepin themselves above the Sixers.
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I recommend watching Paul George whenever he plays.
Id recommend to Gordon hayward to watch Paul George when he plays....
since we love comparing GH to PG, though frankly, I cannot see Hayward get himself back to his Allstar form, Its as if the league has changed since 2017 in his eyes.
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I recommend watching Paul George whenever he plays.
Id recommend to Gordon hayward to watch Paul George when he plays....
since we love comparing GH to PG, though frankly, I cannot see Hayward get himself back to his Allstar form, Its as if the league has changed since 2017 in his eyes.
Gordon Hayward is done we gotta trade him his contract is ludacris and a disgrace to the league worst deal Danny has made ever he better off load that Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. quickly in the summer.
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Got to respect the Pacers! Keep winning without their best player.
Doesn't that mean that the Pacers need to get rid of Dipo since the team plays just as well if not better without him? I mean, that's the way many here see things when the Celtics play without Kyrie.
Nah, I agree with you. When teams win even when their best player is out, those teams deserve praise.
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I recommend watching Paul George whenever he plays.
Id recommend to Gordon hayward to watch Paul George when he plays....
since we love comparing GH to PG, though frankly, I cannot see Hayward get himself back to his Allstar form, Its as if the league has changed since 2017 in his eyes.
Gordon Hayward is done we gotta trade him his contract is ludacris and a disgrace to the league worst deal Danny has made ever he better off load that **** quickly in the summer.
LOL. This is why DA is the GM.
Good GM’s are notorious for trading pieces when their value is at its lowest, right?
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I know it benefits the Celtics if the Lakers win but I just can't root for that team.
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I know it benefits the Celtics if the Lakers win but I just can't root for that team.
Yeah hate Lebron and hate the Lakers.
Also, the freakin' Hawks are beating them. Lakers have given up 100 to that team in just 3 quarters. Such a shame we lost to this team in stupid fashion :(
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I know it benefits the Celtics if the Lakers win but I just can't root for that team.
Lakers missing the playoffs is a bigger benefit if AD actually cares about winning and his legacy.
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Lakers just lost to the Hawks WITH Lebron James playing :o
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Lakers just lost to the Hawks WITH Lebron James playing :o
LeBron's new scheme. Sand bag it to get Walton fired.
(Although looking at the box score hard to call 28/16/11 sand bagging).
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Lakers just lost to the Hawks WITH Lebron James playing :o
LeBron's new scheme. Sand bag it to get Walton fired.
(Although looking at the box score hard to call 28/16/11 sand bagging).
I wish our guys sand bagged more ;D
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I know it benefits the Celtics if the Lakers win but I just can't root for that team.
Lakers missing the playoffs is a bigger benefit if AD actually cares about winning and his legacy.
But it's not AD's decision, so I would rather they not have a lottery pick to trade. As much as I hate Lebron and the Lakers, it would be fun seeing them get crushed by the Warriors in the 1st round.
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I recommend watching Paul George whenever he plays.
Id recommend to Gordon hayward to watch Paul George when he plays....
since we love comparing GH to PG, though frankly, I cannot see Hayward get himself back to his Allstar form, Its as if the league has changed since 2017 in his eyes.
Guess the league changed back tonight.
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Avery Bradley just put up a career high point total against the Spurs without a single FTA. Maybe he’s not as washed up as I thought!
Hope he can keep up the good play
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Kanter to Blazers according to Woj
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Pascal Siakam career high 44 pts 10 reb wow Toronto has another upcoming superstar 3rd year player.
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Pascal Siakam career high 44 pts 10 reb wow Toronto has another upcoming superstar 3rd year player.
Who needs Anthony Davis when you have Pascal Siakam ;D
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Steve Kerr just got thrown out
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Steve Kerr just got thrown out
Absolute melt down after Dray got a pretty soft flagrant. Hilarious
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I know it benefits the Celtics if the Lakers win but I just can't root for that team.
Lakers missing the playoffs is a bigger benefit if AD actually cares about winning and his legacy.
But it's not AD's decision, so I would rather they not have a lottery pick to trade. As much as I hate Lebron and the Lakers, it would be fun seeing them get crushed by the Warriors in the 1st round.
That's a good point. They could even get lucky and end up with the #1 pick which would trump our offer.
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I know it benefits the Celtics if the Lakers win but I just can't root for that team.
Lakers missing the playoffs is a bigger benefit if AD actually cares about winning and his legacy.
But it's not AD's decision, so I would rather they not have a lottery pick to trade. As much as I hate Lebron and the Lakers, it would be fun seeing them get crushed by the Warriors in the 1st round.
That's a good point. They could even get lucky and end up with the #1 pick which would trump our offer.
Don't even make me think about that
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I know it benefits the Celtics if the Lakers win but I just can't root for that team.
Lakers missing the playoffs is a bigger benefit if AD actually cares about winning and his legacy.
But it's not AD's decision, so I would rather they not have a lottery pick to trade. As much as I hate Lebron and the Lakers, it would be fun seeing them get crushed by the Warriors in the 1st round.
That's a good point. They could even get lucky and end up with the #1 pick which would trump our offer.
I don't think the number one pick in this up coming draft is more valuable than Tatum.
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I know it benefits the Celtics if the Lakers win but I just can't root for that team.
Lakers missing the playoffs is a bigger benefit if AD actually cares about winning and his legacy.
But it's not AD's decision, so I would rather they not have a lottery pick to trade. As much as I hate Lebron and the Lakers, it would be fun seeing them get crushed by the Warriors in the 1st round.
That's a good point. They could even get lucky and end up with the #1 pick which would trump our offer.
I don't think the number one pick in this up coming draft is more valuable than Tatum.
I think it would be to the Pels. Zion is a unicorn and has huge hype. Tatum has star potential but he's not a star yet and he's certainly no unicorn.
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I know it benefits the Celtics if the Lakers win but I just can't root for that team.
Lakers missing the playoffs is a bigger benefit if AD actually cares about winning and his legacy.
But it's not AD's decision, so I would rather they not have a lottery pick to trade. As much as I hate Lebron and the Lakers, it would be fun seeing them get crushed by the Warriors in the 1st round.
That's a good point. They could even get lucky and end up with the #1 pick which would trump our offer.
I don't think the number one pick in this up coming draft is more valuable than Tatum.
I think it would be to the Pels. Zion is a unicorn and has huge hype. Tatum has star potential but he's not a star yet and he's certainly no unicorn.
Yeah, I agree. It might be less valuable to some Celtics fans, but Zion's hype is truly unbelievable. He alone would sell a bunch of tickets
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Im only one who thinks Zion will just be a decent player..very over hype..Anthony Bennett 2??
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Im only one who thinks Zion will just be a decent player..very over hype..Anthony Bennett 2??
I'm leery about his ultimate fit in the NBA, but I do not see Anthony Bennett.
Bennett averaged 24 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, and 1 block per 40 minutes.
Williamson is averaging 30 points, 13 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, and 3 blocks per 40 minutes.
Bennett shot 53/38/70
Williamson shoots 68/30/67
Bennett off rat 118 def rating 90
Williamson off rat 136 def rating 82
Bennett OBPM 5.3, DBPM 3.2, BPM 8.5
Williamson OBPM 13.2, DBPM 8.5, BPM 21.7
Bennett never dominated a college game like Williamson does. He is a monster on defense and uber-efficient on offense. He makes back-breaking plays on both sides of the court. Williamson's ability to enforce his will on the college game is unparalleled.
Still, what is he in the NBA? I don't know. I think he is a small-ball 4 to pair with a high level pick-and-roll player (aka the Draymond Green role). Although I think he is pretty good at distribution, he will be at his best as an attacker/finisher in that role.
Big guys won't be able to stay with him. Small guys won't be able to defend him.
At the very least, I see his playing type as the forward version of Russell Westbrook. Maybe he won't ever be the most skilled guy, but he will enforce his will on the game.
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Im only one who thinks Zion will just be a decent player..very over hype..Anthony Bennett 2??
I'm leery about his ultimate fit in the NBA, but I do not see Anthony Bennett.
Bennett averaged 24 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, and 1 block per 40 minutes.
Williamson is averaging 30 points, 13 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, and 3 blocks per 40 minutes.
Bennett shot 53/38/70
Williamson shoots 68/30/67
Bennett off rat 118 def rating 90
Williamson off rat 136 def rating 82
Bennett OBPM 5.3, DBPM 3.2, BPM 8.5
Williamson OBPM 13.2, DBPM 8.5, BPM 21.7
Bennett never dominated a college game like Williamson does. He is a monster on defense and uber-efficient on offense. He makes back-breaking plays on both sides of the court. Williamson's ability to enforce his will on the college game is unparalleled.
Still, what is he in the NBA? I don't know. I think he is a small-ball 4 to pair with a high level pick-and-roll player (aka the Draymond Green role). Although I think he is pretty good at distribution, he will be at his best as an attacker/finisher in that role.
Big guys won't be able to stay with him. Small guys won't be able to defend him.
At the very least, I see his playing type as the forward version of Russell Westbrook. Maybe he won't ever be the most skilled guy, but he will enforce his will on the game.
My thoughts exactly. People act like he's gonna be a bust. Far from it, I think he's gonna break out.
You don't post dominant stat lines like this, also his steals per game, and blocks per game trend upwards in terms of giving him high probability of having great success past collegiate.
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Im only one who thinks Zion will just be a decent player..very over hype..Anthony Bennett 2??
I now think of Montrezl Harrell and how effective he has been able to be this season as a 6-8 backup center.
26mpg = 16ppg, 6.7rpg, 2apg, 1.5bpg on 62% FG%
If Harrell is able to do that just imagine what Zion Williamson will be able to do given how much stronger and more athletic Zion is even as a limited offensive player skill-wise similar to Harrell who gets almost all his points in and around the paint.
Seeing how good Harrell has been able to be this season gives me added confidence in Zion being able to play center in the NBA.
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Im only one who thinks Zion will just be a decent player..very over hype..Anthony Bennett 2??
I now think of Montrezl Harrell and how effective he has been able to be this season as a 6-8 backup center.
26mpg = 16ppg, 6.7rpg, 2apg, 1.5bpg on 62% FG%
If Harrell is able to do that just imagine what Zion Williamson will be able to do given how much stronger and more athletic Zion is even as a limited offensive player skill-wise similar to Harrell who gets almost all his points in and around the paint.
Seeing how good Harrell has been able to be this season gives me added confidence in Zion being able to play center in the NBA.
Yep, and lots of people like to focus on his strength and jumping ability, but his body control, quickness in small spaces, great first step, quick 2nd and 3rd jumps, and straight out speed is just as impressive athletically. He also has a very good feel for the game, great handle, good passer especially in transition, and a great teammate.
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Zion will be a very good player, but, imo, so will Barrett.
I dont know which will have the greater career,
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Im only one who thinks Zion will just be a decent player..very over hype..Anthony Bennett 2??
I now think of Montrezl Harrell and how effective he has been able to be this season as a 6-8 backup center.
26mpg = 16ppg, 6.7rpg, 2apg, 1.5bpg on 62% FG%
If Harrell is able to do that just imagine what Zion Williamson will be able to do given how much stronger and more athletic Zion is even as a limited offensive player skill-wise similar to Harrell who gets almost all his points in and around the paint.
Seeing how good Harrell has been able to be this season gives me added confidence in Zion being able to play center in the NBA.
Yep, and lots of people like to focus on his strength and jumping ability, but his body control, quickness in small spaces, great first step, quick 2nd and 3rd jumps, and straight out speed is just as impressive athletically. He also has a very good feel for the game, great handle, good passer especially in transition, and a great teammate.
from what limited amount I've seen of him, Charles Barkley doesn't seem to be the best upside comparison for him but he seems more like an upside of Larry Johnson. Big, muscular and very athletic with some skills. Not that Barkley didn't have that but he was more of a bull in the paint and not quite as athletic.
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Anthony Davis seemed to hurt himself against OKC in the first half. Hasn't returned to the bench
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Anthony Davis seemed to hurt himself against OKC in the first half. Hasn't returned to the bench
He will be out for the rest of the year with that injury.
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Anthony Davis seemed to hurt himself against OKC in the first half. Hasn't returned to the bench
He will be out for the rest of the year with that injury.
What would be really funny to me is if he plays the ASG but sits the whole year for New Orleans
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Anthony Davis seemed to hurt himself against OKC in the first half. Hasn't returned to the bench
He will be out for the rest of the year with that injury.
What would be really funny to me is if he plays the ASG but sits the whole year for New Orleans
I had AD in one of my fantasy leagues and traded him, no exaggeration, the day before he went out with that finger injury. Since then it's been a shoot show. I can't believe it.
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AD s doctors say he can only get better in LA.
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I doubt AD will be in uniform in the ASG. But who will be his replacement?
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Anthony Davis seemed to hurt himself against OKC in the first half. Hasn't returned to the bench
He will be out for the rest of the year with that injury.
What would be really funny to me is if he plays the ASG but sits the whole year for New Orleans
I had AD in one of my fantasy leagues and traded him, no exaggeration, the day before he went out with that finger injury. Since then it's been a shoot show. I can't believe it.
What was the return? ;D
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Anthony Davis seemed to hurt himself against OKC in the first half. Hasn't returned to the bench
He will be out for the rest of the year with that injury.
WWE NBA
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Yeah I think Davis realizes now that this isn't good anyone. Probably done after the ASG.
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I had previously predicted a case of plantar fasciitis since it would be so hard for the NBA prove AD didn't have plantar fasciitis in case they decided to fight the doctor's diagnosis, but a shoulder injury can be so many different things so...that works too.
Either way, Davis decided things were going to be not so great for anyone if he is playing this year so time for an injury. Heck if Fultz can be out for 2 years because of an imbalanced scapula muscle, Davis should be able to be excused for a shoulder injury for 1/3 of the year.
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I had previously predicted a case of plantar fasciitis since it would be so hard for the NBA prove AD didn't have plantar fasciitis in case they decided to fight the doctor's diagnosis, but a shoulder injury can be so many different things so...that works too.
Either way, Davis decided things were going to be not so great for anyone if he is playing this year so time for an injury. Heck if Fultz can be out for 2 years because of an imbalanced scapula muscle, Davis should be able to be excused for a shoulder injury for 1/3 of the year.
That means his value should drop since he got injured. No need to offer Tatum in a package for him.
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I had previously predicted a case of plantar fasciitis since it would be so hard for the NBA prove AD didn't have plantar fasciitis in case they decided to fight the doctor's diagnosis, but a shoulder injury can be so many different things so...that works too.
Either way, Davis decided things were going to be not so great for anyone if he is playing this year so time for an injury. Heck if Fultz can be out for 2 years because of an imbalanced scapula muscle, Davis should be able to be excused for a shoulder injury for 1/3 of the year.
That means his value should drop since he got injured. No need to offer Tatum in a package for him.
It really doesn't.
Anthony Davis isn't a used car at a local dealer.
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Anthony Davis seemed to hurt himself against OKC in the first half. Hasn't returned to the bench
He will be out for the rest of the year with that injury.
What would be really funny to me is if he plays the ASG but sits the whole year for New Orleans
I had AD in one of my fantasy leagues and traded him, no exaggeration, the day before he went out with that finger injury. Since then it's been a shoot show. I can't believe it.
What was the return? ;D
Vucevic, Devon Booker, and TJ Warren.
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Kyrie playing the all star game but misses every other regular season game. >:(
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Kyrie playing the all star game but misses every other regular season game. >:(
Rofl. Almost as if he plays in games he’s medically cleared to play in
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Kyrie playing the all star game but misses every other regular season game. >:(
Rofl. Almost as if he plays in games he’s medically cleared to play in
All star game has a great medical trainer.
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Kyrie playing the all star game but misses every other regular season game. >:(
Rofl. Almost as if he plays in games he’s medically cleared to play in
Stevens was ok with him having some basketball related activity.. He knows the Allstar games have no bearing with no effort and no defense type basketball activity...Irving will be fine.
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LeBron James and Brandon Ingram willed their way over a win against the Rockets.
Looks like the Lakers are back at the .500 column.
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LeBron James and Brandon Ingram willed their way over a win against the Rockets.
Looks like the Lakers are back at the .500 column.
he thought it was tuff in Cleveland dragging them to the playoffs , he has his work cut out for him out west .
He can do this most games , long as he can keep his focus or why should I waste my time or energy debate that rages in his tiny mind. fragile,mental state of thinking he needs to play all out. It seems the Laker fans are not shy about calling him out for,standing around saving energy making a play here and there. If he doesn't at least pretend to care , star players are becoming less enchanted about teaming with him . He is a two faced snob.
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I didn't know K-Love was back. I thought Cleveland would hold him out for the rest of the season to try and get the best lottery chances possible.
That is good to see.
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DeRozen just handed the Raptors the lead with 15 secs to go and then was too afraid to take the shot on the next possession.
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Aaaaand the refs just missed a blatant backcourt on raps
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Aaaaand the refs just missed a blatant backcourt on raps
That was the weirdest thing ever. They made a huge deal overturning a call on Lowry's out of bounds rebound (which I thought should have stood - did he really establish position inbounds?) and then everybody just accepts a blatant backcourt violation on Kawhi.
I am not saying the Spurs would have won...or that it even affects our playoff positioning...but SAS could have had a clear shot for the win there.
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I liked how when the play by play guy gave the BS rationalization he got from the refs and Doris was still like "yeah I don't buy that at all"
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Another close game, another instance of NBA officials affecting the outcome of games with their incompetence ::)
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Nader hit big 3 in OT and made big steal in double OT win for OKC. Happy for him.
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Another close game, another instance of NBA officials affecting the outcome of games with their incompetence ::)
I know you're just riffing, but NBA reffing g seems really difficult, do you think you (or someone else) could do a better job?
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You are right ... Bball is not is easy to officiate but there are more than obvious calls that the refs miss in crunch time and very often determine results
They are supposed to be trained to avoid mistakes anyone could see.
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You are right ... Bball is not is easy to officiate but there are more than obvious calls that the refs miss in crunch time and very often determine results
They are supposed to be trained to avoid mistakes anyone could see.
Players are so big and fast these days I wonder if it’s time to revisit the whole 3 refs idea, and they run the whole game without a break like the players get. Maybe have 2 refs on each side, and they get a little bit of a mental break when the ball is on the other side of the court.
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You are right ... Bball is not is easy to officiate but there are more than obvious calls that the refs miss in crunch time and very often determine results
They are supposed to be trained to avoid mistakes anyone could see.
Players are so big and fast these days I wonder if it’s time to revisit the whole 3 refs idea, and they run the whole game without a break like the players get. Maybe have 2 refs on each side, and they get a little bit of a mental break when the ball is on the other side of the court.
Going from 3 to 4 refs would be the simplest and likely a very effective step for the league could take.
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You are right ... Bball is not is easy to officiate but there are more than obvious calls that the refs miss in crunch time and very often determine results
They are supposed to be trained to avoid mistakes anyone could see.
Players are so big and fast these days I wonder if it’s time to revisit the whole 3 refs idea, and they run the whole game without a break like the players get. Maybe have 2 refs on each side, and they get a little bit of a mental break when the ball is on the other side of the court.
Going from 3 to 4 refs would be the simplest and likely a very effective step for the league could take.
The things that bother me most aren't the missed calls that adding another ref would address. What bothers me are the ways they've decided to call certain things. Deciding that the Harden step back isn't a travel (it definitely is) is bad. Deciding to not call Harden for offensive fouls when he initiates contact is bad. I would change the way charges are called as well, giving more leeway to an offensive player who has already picked up his dribble before a defender jumps in front of him.
There will always be missed calls. But there are institutional decisions I'd like to see changed.
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You are right ... Bball is not is easy to officiate but there are more than obvious calls that the refs miss in crunch time and very often determine results
They are supposed to be trained to avoid mistakes anyone could see.
Players are so big and fast these days I wonder if it’s time to revisit the whole 3 refs idea, and they run the whole game without a break like the players get. Maybe have 2 refs on each side, and they get a little bit of a mental break when the ball is on the other side of the court.
Going from 3 to 4 refs would be the simplest and likely a very effective step for the league could take.
I may be wrong, but I think they tried this in the G League and found it didn't help. I would prefer if they experimented with a 4th "booth" ref. Part of the issue may be perspective. Things that seem so obvious to the viewer are often missed by refs. At the same time, some things that seem obvious to us as viewers may not always be accurate. I thought Tatum was fouled by Giannis on the dunk attempt until I saw the replay. I imagine you could try trial runs where you have a booth ref making calls in real time, but don't actually count. Then you could review after the fact to determine the accuracy rate.
Another idea that would enhance fairness (while killing the entertainment factor) is to award compensatory free throws for missed calls at the end of each half.
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You are right ... Bball is not is easy to officiate but there are more than obvious calls that the refs miss in crunch time and very often determine results
They are supposed to be trained to avoid mistakes anyone could see.
Players are so big and fast these days I wonder if it’s time to revisit the whole 3 refs idea, and they run the whole game without a break like the players get. Maybe have 2 refs on each side, and they get a little bit of a mental break when the ball is on the other side of the court.
Going from 3 to 4 refs would be the simplest and likely a very effective step for the league could take.
The things that bother me most aren't the missed calls that adding another ref would address. What bothers me are the ways they've decided to call certain things. Deciding that the Harden step back isn't a travel (it definitely is) is bad. Deciding to not call Harden for offensive fouls when he initiates contact is bad. I would change the way charges are called as well, giving more leeway to an offensive player who has already picked up his dribble before a defender jumps in front of him.
There will always be missed calls. But there are institutional decisions I'd like to see changed.
I think I might agree with this. The NBA defending their no travel call on Beal was a slap in the face.
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Another close game, another instance of NBA officials affecting the outcome of games with their incompetence ::)
I know you're just riffing, but NBA reffing g seems really difficult, do you think you (or someone else) could do a better job?
The problem is consistency, as officiating standards seemingly change from ref to ref, player to player, game to game, and even quarter to quarter. They have too big of a role in the game, as the rules have been strategically manipulated to favor a certain type of play that the refs are then instructed to enforce.
If the league really wanted to fix the officiating problem, then I think they should actually REDUCE the refs’ level of involvement in games, as the more involvement they have in the game the greater variance and inconsistency there will be. Let these grown men play and limit the scope of ref involvement to provide a more consistent standard.
I know a lot of our comments are hurled at individual refs (though some of them truly are awful and/or biased to certain players/styles), but I think it’s the NBA’s current officiating philosophy that is the main problem.
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You are right ... Bball is not is easy to officiate but there are more than obvious calls that the refs miss in crunch time and very often determine results
They are supposed to be trained to avoid mistakes anyone could see.
Players are so big and fast these days I wonder if it’s time to revisit the whole 3 refs idea, and they run the whole game without a break like the players get. Maybe have 2 refs on each side, and they get a little bit of a mental break when the ball is on the other side of the court.
Going from 3 to 4 refs would be the simplest and likely a very effective step for the league could take.
The things that bother me most aren't the missed calls that adding another ref would address. What bothers me are the ways they've decided to call certain things. Deciding that the Harden step back isn't a travel (it definitely is) is bad. Deciding to not call Harden for offensive fouls when he initiates contact is bad. I would change the way charges are called as well, giving more leeway to an offensive player who has already picked up his dribble before a defender jumps in front of him.
There will always be missed calls. But there are institutional decisions I'd like to see changed.
Pretty much this. I think this is a higher level issue with the entire officiating philosophy that is completely driven toward favoring both stars and a certain type of offensive-oriented play.
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Nice to see IT put up 16 in just 15 minutes.
If he is pain-free I think he’s going to be a huge weapon in Denver.
People (especially here, for some bizarre reason) can bash his height or defense, but there’s no denying his heart and talent.
Hope he can return to his pre-injury status as an elite player in this league. He’s got a ways to go, but I won’t count him out.
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Nice to see IT put up 16 in just 15 minutes.
If he is pain-free I think he’s going to be a huge weapon in Denver.
People (especially here, for some bizarre reason) can bash his height or defense, but there’s no denying his heart and talent.
Hope he can return to his pre-injury status as an elite player in this league. He’s got a ways to go, but I won’t count him out.
Great snag for Denver. Always should be a heater off the bench. Go IT4. He would probably be here if we didn't choose Bird, but hindsight and all.
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Nice to see IT put up 16 in just 15 minutes.
If he is pain-free I think he’s going to be a huge weapon in Denver.
People (especially here, for some bizarre reason) can bash his height or defense, but there’s no denying his heart and talent.
Hope he can return to his pre-injury status as an elite player in this league. He’s got a ways to go, but I won’t count him out.
Great snag for Denver. Always should be a heater off the bench. Go IT4. He would probably be here if we didn't choose Bird, but hindsight and all.
I'd love to see IT help Denver go on a nice little run in the playoffs and then get paid decently in the offseason (either by DEN or another team). If the Nuggets happen to meet the Lakers 1st round, then obviously hope he can help them there.
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LOL Anthony Davis is out for "rest" against... the Lakers tonight :P
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LOL Anthony Davis is out for "rest" against... the Lakers tonight :P
Man the nba has a lot of things suggesting things are not being done on the up and up. On the plus side these shanigans will help lakers make playoffs over Kings (although I am worrying spurs are collapsing and both could make it)
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LOL Anthony Davis is out for "rest" against... the Lakers tonight :P
Man the nba has a lot of things suggesting things are not being done on the up and up. On the plus side these shanigans will help lakers make playoffs over Kings (although I am worrying spurs are collapsing and both could make it)
Derrick White came back last night after missing five games. He’s crucial for them.
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LOL Anthony Davis is out for "rest" against... the Lakers tonight :P
Man the nba has a lot of things suggesting things are not being done on the up and up. On the plus side these shanigans will help lakers make playoffs over Kings (although I am worrying spurs are collapsing and both could make it)
Derrick White came back last night after missing five games. He’s crucial for them.
The West will definitely have drama between the 5-8 seeds. I think the Top-4 is honestly what it will be come April (in order: Golden State, Denver, OKC, Portland). But the 5th seeded Rockets are just 1 game ahead of the 8 seed, and Lakers are the 10 seed but a manageable 3 games back of the 8 seed.
I feel anything can happen honestly. I still am confident Houston and Utah in some order maintain the 5th or 6th seeds. But after that, the 7-8 seeds will be a dogfight between four teams.
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Randle punishing the Fakers for trading him ..
Lakers should have kept Russell and Randle , got rid of Ingram and Never signed LeBum and his mob camp
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Wrong thread.
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Randle punishing the Fakers for trading him ..
Lakers should have kept Russell and Randle , got rid of Ingram and Never signed LeBum and his mob camp
The Lakeres getting rid of Russell and Randle saved their careers.
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Rockets better without Harden
LOl,....beating GS
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Rockets better without Harden
LOl,....beating GS
Wonder if Rockets fans think they're better without Harden ::)
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Wow... a team of Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, Boogie Cousins and Draymond Green lost a game. That's straight-up shameful. Reminds me of when Team USA lost to Puerto Rico.
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Man, Wayne Ellington seems to just hit everything.
Wish we could've nabbed him
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Did the Pacers sneak into the 17-18 Celtics locker room and steal their mojo mon-stars style? Their last two games they have cut into big first half leads. They should be charged with identity theft.
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LaVine, Markkkkkkannennnn, and Lopez doing the same thing they did to us to the Bucks.
Admittedly, without Giannis... but Celtics are better without Kyrie right?? :laugh: :laugh:
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LaVine, Markkkkkkannennnn, and Lopez doing the same thing they did to us to the Bucks.
Admittedly, without Giannis... but Celtics are better without Kyrie right?? :laugh: :laugh:
7 point 2nd quarter from the Bulls. Jeesh
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KAT is going Wilt Mode on the Kings right now, to my delight. Kings choking in the 2nd quarter.
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Pacers finally lose one! We really need them to drop down to #5
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Yeah and Sabonis sprained his ankle, don’t know how seriously
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Pacers finally lose one! We really need them to drop down to #5
That would be ideal, but I would be fine with them dropping to #4 if the Sixers can get to #3. Either way, we need them to lose a few games here. Sorry Pacers, you are a likable bunch, but I don't want my team to even have a chance of losing in the 1st round.
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Pacers finally lose one! We really need them to drop down to #5
That would be ideal, but I would be fine with them dropping to #4 if the Sixers can get to #3. Either way, we need them to lose a few games here. Sorry Pacers, you are a likable bunch, but I don't want my team to even have a chance of losing in the 1st round.
Also can agree with that. I just can't stomach a Philly first round matchup. The Pacers have 10 games against teams under .500 remaining so hopefully they lose a few more!
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Pacers finally lose one! We really need them to drop down to #5
That would be ideal, but I would be fine with them dropping to #4 if the Sixers can get to #3. Either way, we need them to lose a few games here. Sorry Pacers, you are a likable bunch, but I don't want my team to even have a chance of losing in the 1st round.
Also can agree with that. I just can't stomach a Philly first round matchup. The Pacers have 10 games against teams under .500 remaining so hopefully they lose a few more!
Ideal scenario is us being a 4-5 seed while PHI is the 3 seed... or us being the 3 seed, period.
Worst case is being a 4-5 seed and facing PHI first round, then MIL. That would be brutal. At least even if we're the 4-5 seed while PHI is the 3 seed we face a somewhat easier, Oladipo-less Pacers team in the 1st round while PHI-TOR battle it out.
Either way, we're going to have to win road games if we want to beat MIL and/or TOR in the playoffs anyways so I think at this point the focus should be on drawing IND or BKN in some way for the first round (preferably through just getting the 3 seed outright).
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Olynk had made 7 straight shots and now with a clutch long 2-pt shot against suns
He stepped on the 3-pt line
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Pacers finally lose one! We really need them to drop down to #5
That would be ideal, but I would be fine with them dropping to #4 if the Sixers can get to #3. Either way, we need them to lose a few games here. Sorry Pacers, you are a likable bunch, but I don't want my team to even have a chance of losing in the 1st round.
Also can agree with that. I just can't stomach a Philly first round matchup. The Pacers have 10 games against teams under .500 remaining so hopefully they lose a few more!
Ideal scenario is us being a 4-5 seed while PHI is the 3 seed... or us being the 3 seed, period.
Worst case is being a 4-5 seed and facing PHI first round, then MIL. That would be brutal. At least even if we're the 4-5 seed while PHI is the 3 seed we face a somewhat easier, Oladipo-less Pacers team in the 1st round while PHI-TOR battle it out.
Either way, we're going to have to win road games if we want to beat MIL and/or TOR in the playoffs anyways so I think at this point the focus should be on drawing IND or BKN in some way for the first round (preferably through just getting the 3 seed outright).
I would be concerned if the Celtics are dragged to 7 games against Brooklyn in Round 1 given that they always fall asleep against inferior opponents like the Knicks, Clippers, Bulls or Suns.
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Lakers down by 8 with 9 minutes to go against the Grizzlies.
And the Lakers haven't even scored yet in the 4th... :o
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Also, Boban just hurt his knee and needed to be helped to the locker room. Sixers up 3 on the Pelicans, 20 seconds to go.
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As bad as this season's been, at least we're not the Lakers. Who signed the best player in the world and wasted a season of his prime because their young guys aren't good enough to win without him nor were good enough to get Davis.
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As bad as this season's been, at least we're not the Lakers. Who signed the best player in the world and wasted a season of his prime because their young guys aren't good enough to win without him nor were good enough to get Davis.
Down 105-101, Lebron made a shot while fouled to make it 105-103. Then he missed the FT and MEM made theirs. Made the difference in the end. Lebron also struggled for the most part (shot 8-22).
And UGH, Sixers hold on to beat Pelicans 111-110. At least Pacers lost I guess.
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Also, Boban just hurt his knee and needed to be helped to the locker room. Sixers up 3 on the Pelicans, 20 seconds to go.
Annoying that Philly won, but I hope Bobi is okay
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As bad as this season's been, at least we're not the Lakers. Who signed the best player in the world and wasted a season of his prime because their young guys aren't good enough to win without him nor were good enough to get Davis.
Down 105-101, Lebron made a shot while fouled to make it 105-103. Then he missed the FT and MEM made theirs. Made the difference in the end. Lebron also struggled for the most part (shot 8-22).
And UGH, Sixers hold on to beat Pelicans 111-110. At least Pacers lost I guess.
Mem literally put AB on him most of this game! How in the world does LBJ let AB defend him at all? When I first saw AB would be his defender I just knew Mem was about to get ran over but it worked lol. LBJ doesn't look good even though he continues to rack up stats.
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
I think the whole Kawhi deal swept it under the rug.
Plus, Dame stepped up his game a lot after LMA left. Probably more than he may have had LMA stayed
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
LMA was just a weird big-named free agent signing that year. He could've teamed up or formed superteams with LeBron or Durant/Westbrook or wherever but the Spurs with their old Big 3 being one foot out the door.
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So Doc Rivers stopped a game to give a shout out to Dirk Nowitzki through the mic and called him a GOAT.
I don't remember Doc Rivers doing one for Paul Pierce ::) ::) ::)
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
I think the whole Kawhi deal swept it under the rug.
Plus, Dame stepped up his game a lot after LMA left. Probably more than he may have had LMA stayed
Yeah, but Dame was already really good when he shared the light with LMA. I still think they would be an average team with him but he could have left a bigger legacy with the Blazers IMO. He hasn't done anything to be remembered much as a Spur, you have to do a lot to be truly remembered after the players that flowed through there. Had he continued doing what he was doing, even without a chip, Blazer fans would be screaming for a statue... okay, maybe a bit much, but he surely would have been held on high for years.
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So Doc Rivers stopped a game to give a shout out to Dirk Nowitzki through the mic and called him a GOAT.
I don't remember Doc Rivers doing one for Paul Pierce ::) ::) ::)
I understand the frustration, and I think it's pretty lame that he didn't, but Dirk has had a pretty considerably better career than Paul, so I guess the shout-out is more deserved in a vacuum. Given Doc's history with Paul it's a bit iffy, but still, sentimentality is very en vogue this season
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
LMA was just a weird big-named free agent signing that year. He could've teamed up or formed superteams with LeBron or Durant/Westbrook or wherever but the Spurs with their old Big 3 being one foot out the door.
He chose Pop and KL. KL never seems like one for the spotlight so LMA never had to worry about not getting the shine. KL was also arguably the 2nd best player in the league, being a great defender (of the best player in the league at that) and a really high level offender. Pop is one of the greatest coaches who seemed to get the most out of any player inserted into their system.
It seemed like a good choice but look how fast it went left. I know he doesn't have to justify doing what he felt was best but man, in the end, it sure seems like he made the wrong choice. I'm not only thinking about him not winning, there have also been rumored issues between him and Pop in the past.
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If anyone missed it, very classy act by Doc Rivers last night, who grabbed the PA mic at the last stoppage and exhorted the home crowd to give Dirk a standing ovation.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1100277212740243461 (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1100277212740243461)
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If anyone missed it, very classy act by Doc Rivers last night, who grabbed the PA mic at the last stoppage and exhorted the home crowd to give Dirk a standing ovation.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1100277212740243461 (https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1100277212740243461)
Nice move by Doc, shows you the different between the LA and Boston fans- who recognized Dirk on their own.
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
Because mostly people just use the "he betrayed his team" narrative as a way to justify them hating on a player they already dislike for some other reason.
I mean, just look at Kawhi. He faked a leg injury to not play for the Spurs for a full year in order to force a trade. Is that better or worse than Durant deciding he wanted to sign somewhere else?
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
Because mostly people just use the "he betrayed his team" narrative as a way to justify them hating on a player they already dislike for some other reason.
I mean, just look at Kawhi. He faked a leg injury to not play for the Spurs for a full year in order to force a trade. Is that better or worse than Durant deciding he wanted to sign somewhere else?
I don't really think this is the main reasons. He is a nice player, but not a top ten player in the NBA overall (he did make a few all nba second teams, but i don't think he was generally thought of as a franchise talent like Lebron, Giannis, Curry, Durant, Leonard). Probably similar to a west coast kevin love before love became so injury prone. Did anyone say Love betrayed the timberwolves when he wanted to be traded from them? Generally this only seems to happen if it is a clear top 5 player in the NBA. People got upset with Lebron when he left cleveland (also doesn't hurt the anger that he grew up there). People were agitated by durant because he was a top 5 player and he was joining a top 5 player that had just set a win record. Who else have you seen big betrayal outcry over the last 10 years? I guess maybe Allen when he went to the Heat, but that was probably exasperated a lot by the way he went out about with his teammates and them adding fire to the flames (he wasn't even a top 30 player at that point).
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
Because mostly people just use the "he betrayed his team" narrative as a way to justify them hating on a player they already dislike for some other reason.
I mean, just look at Kawhi. He faked a leg injury to not play for the Spurs for a full year in order to force a trade. Is that better or worse than Durant deciding he wanted to sign somewhere else?
I'd say it's two different things but both are bad image decisions. Durant set up meetings with like six different teams knowing full-well he's going to the 73-9 team who beat him and then blew a 3-1 series lead in the Finals. He wasted Ainge, Brady, IT4, and Horford's time whom all tried to convince him. He bought himself two rings, and I see it as bought not earned.
And then there's Kawhi who basically forced an issue. He just didn't want to be with the Spurs.
Both of them got what they deserved when they returned to their old arena as visitors.
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
LMA was just a weird big-named free agent signing that year. He could've teamed up or formed superteams with LeBron or Durant/Westbrook or wherever but the Spurs with their old Big 3 being one foot out the door.
He chose Pop and KL. KL never seems like one for the spotlight so LMA never had to worry about not getting the shine. KL was also arguably the 2nd best player in the league, being a great defender (of the best player in the league at that) and a really high level offender. Pop is one of the greatest coaches who seemed to get the most out of any player inserted into their system.
It seemed like a good choice but look how fast it went left. I know he doesn't have to justify doing what he felt was best but man, in the end, it sure seems like he made the wrong choice. I'm not only thinking about him not winning, there have also been rumored issues between him and Pop in the past.
LMA is from Texas and if I recall correctly, his son is there. So the proximity to his kid/family + the chance to play for a legendary coach in Pop (even if it's been bumpy at times) was probably more appealing than staying in Portland.
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
Because mostly people just use the "he betrayed his team" narrative as a way to justify them hating on a player they already dislike for some other reason.
I mean, just look at Kawhi. He faked a leg injury to not play for the Spurs for a full year in order to force a trade. Is that better or worse than Durant deciding he wanted to sign somewhere else?
I don't really think this is the main reasons. He is a nice player, but not a top ten player in the NBA overall (he did make a few all nba second teams, but i don't think he was generally thought of as a franchise talent like Lebron, Giannis, Curry, Durant, Leonard). Probably similar to a west coast kevin love before love became so injury prone. Did anyone say Love betrayed the timberwolves when he wanted to be traded from them? Generally this only seems to happen if it is a clear top 5 player in the NBA. People got upset with Lebron when he left cleveland (also doesn't hurt the anger that he grew up there). People were agitated by durant because he was a top 5 player and he was joining a top 5 player that had just set a win record. Who else have you seen big betrayal outcry over the last 10 years? I guess maybe Allen when he went to the Heat, but that was probably exasperated a lot by the way he went out about with his teammates and them adding fire to the flames (he wasn't even a top 30 player at that point).
Some people hold Kyrie's exit from Cleveland against him.
I think the profile of the player matters but mostly insomuch as higher profile players tend to get more attention and that attention tends to be more polarized. Kawhi was a top 5 player in 2016-17 and is again this year but no one seems to mind that he apparently faked an injury to force a trade. Some mind, I suppose, but it's not something I hear much about.
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why does no one talk about LMA and how he left Dame, while in his prime, to go to a team that hasn't done much better than Portland AND lost KL? LMA was a bigtime FA when he went to the Spurs.
LMA was just a weird big-named free agent signing that year. He could've teamed up or formed superteams with LeBron or Durant/Westbrook or wherever but the Spurs with their old Big 3 being one foot out the door.
He chose Pop and KL. KL never seems like one for the spotlight so LMA never had to worry about not getting the shine. KL was also arguably the 2nd best player in the league, being a great defender (of the best player in the league at that) and a really high level offender. Pop is one of the greatest coaches who seemed to get the most out of any player inserted into their system.
It seemed like a good choice but look how fast it went left. I know he doesn't have to justify doing what he felt was best but man, in the end, it sure seems like he made the wrong choice. I'm not only thinking about him not winning, there have also been rumored issues between him and Pop in the past.
LMA is from Texas and if I recall correctly, his son is there. So the proximity to his kid/family + the chance to play for a legendary coach in Pop (even if it's been bumpy at times) was probably more appealing than staying in Portland.
Yeah, I get the reason why he chose Spurs (hell, I probably would have) but as far as basketball legacy he may have fared better if he stayed with the Blazers. Of course this is hindsight but dang, he kinda messed up being a Blazer legend to be a blip on Spurs history book.
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Just looking at the box scores from last night's games and this stuck out from the Warriors vs Heat game:
Durant = 12 three point attempts (3 made)
Curry = 14 three point attempts (4 made)
Thompson = 15 three point attempts (7 made)
Three separate players all on the same team all in double digit 3 point attempts. Wow. That is a lot of 3s. 41 three pointers from those 3 players in 1 game!
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Just looking at the box scores from last night's games and this stuck out from the Warriors vs Heat game:
Durant = 12 three point attempts (3 made)
Curry = 14 three point attempts (4 made)
Thompson = 15 three point attempts (7 made)
Three separate players all on the same team all in double digit 3 point attempts. Wow. That is a lot of 3s. 41 three pointers from those 3 players in 1 game!
It's fun when three historically great shooters do that.
We're probably going to see a lot of not-great-yet teams doing that in the near future.
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For February, Trae Young and Doncic were named EC and WC Rookies of the Month
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For February, Trae Young and Doncic were named EC and WC Rookies of the Month
Don't think I can argue with that. Sad that Bagley went down when he did, as he was starting to get on a roll
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Trae Young has 47 points.
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
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Clips-Kings. Double win or double loss tonight.
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Raptors are winning the East
Danny should have shipped the entire farm for Kawhi he's unreal the most complete basket-ball player in the league.
The 3 best players are still Lebron, Durant and Kawhi don't know what order you put them in seeing how all of them are NBA champions and Finals MVP's.
Man when Kawhi tries he's the best player in the East by far he can kill you in everywhere the game of basket-ball is played... Drive, mid range, 3, and ELITE DEFENSE.
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
Quadruple OT!!
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
Quadruple OT!!
Possibly Quintuple OT.
Far surpasses Game 6 of the Bulls-Celtics 2009 series.
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Clips up by 5 entering the 4th quarter in Sacramento. That would be a big win for our picks.
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Looks like the Lakers are having no trouble beating the Bucks.
The Celtics need to get it together.
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The Clips held on for the win. Now 3 games ahead of the Kings. The Kings are 2.5 games behind the Spurs for the 8th spot.
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So Tatum is the overrated one huh? ;)
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Looks like the Lakers are having no trouble beating the Bucks.
The Celtics need to get it together.
Of course it was Drew Bledsoe who ended up killing LA
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Looks like the Lakers are having no trouble beating the Bucks.
The Celtics need to get it together.
Of course it was Drew Bledsoe who ended up killing LA
Dayum, Eric Bledsoe came to ball in LA tonight.
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So Tatum is the overrated one huh? ;)
Wait a minute, if you tell the Pelicans that maybe they'll think twice about trading AD for Tatum's package!
They might just take Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma package instead.
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Poeltl is looking good out there in short minutes.
He is someone I'd be happy to see Ainge look at in the summer. Maybe to pursue him with the Kings draft pick should AD fall through.
Good size. Physical strength and willingness to throw his weight around. Solid mobility. Rebounds very well. Good passer. Knows how to play. How to move without the ball. Good cutter. Efficient garbage man type scorer. Solid role player material. Potential starter at center. Great bench big if nothing else.
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Poeltl is looking good out there in short minutes.
He is someone I'd be happy to see Ainge look at in the summer. Maybe to pursue him with the Kings draft pick should AD fall through.
Good size. Physical strength and willingness to throw his weight around. Solid mobility. Rebounds very well. Good passer. Knows how to play. How to move without the ball. Good cutter. Efficient garbage man type scorer. Solid role player material. Potential starter at center. Great bench big if nothing else.
Agree. He's super efficient on offence, and still young. Would love to see us add him, especially if we lose Theis. He could take those 15MPG without hesitation
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So Tatum is the overrated one huh? ;)
Overrated compared to who? It’s fair to be critical about Tatum’s defense and BBIQ on offense. Right now he’s an iso offensive player and occasional rebounder on defense. He really needs to expand his game.
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Avery Bradley is absolutely killing it in Memphis. Happy to see him doing well.
Thought he was cooked, so it seems like I was wrong. Might've just never gotten back from injury or something. Wish he was giving us 16/3/3, lol.
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Pacers lose at home to the Magic. That’s good!
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This Warriors/Sixers game is entertaining as heck.
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Orlando pounded the Pacers on the boards, especially late in the game. Got back a quarter of their misses. Indiana misses Sabonis greatly - the rebounding and the passing. Big shots from T-Ross and Fournier.
Orlando needs a quality PG/playmaker. I think Fultz' career is very much over, but if they get lucky with him that's a team. Vucevic + Fultz as offensive dynamos surrounded by Gordon, Isaac, Ross - very good complementary players with strong defense. Fournier as a pure scorer off the bench; Iwundu as a defensive specialist.
As it is, their perimeter shot-creation is too weak. Looks mighty difficult to sort that out while keeping this core. Vucevic is already 28. They might peak as a 40ish wins team unless Fultz pans out.
Khem Birch is a nice small'n'fast five-man. Possibly the best 3rd string big man in the league. Needs to get out of there if they're going to keep Vucevic and Mo Bamba and find a rotation spot somewhere.
Pacers' March schedule is devastating. Seed #5.
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Phily getting ice cold offensively at the wrong time
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Philly clueless in last minute
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Why did Simmons purposely miss that FT?
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Lol so much for Simmons’ high BBIQ. 😂
It’s amazing how many nba players don’t realize that you have to hit the rim on a free throw.
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Entertaining game. Warriors win
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Entertaining game. Warriors win
Good night for the C’s. Win tomorrow and it’s a whole new ballgame!
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Entertaining game. Warriors win
Yep. Obviously was rooting for PHI to lose but in general that was an extremely entertaining game.
Now 2 back of PHI (4 seed) and 2.5 of IND (3 seed). Even with our brutal schedule ahead, I predict IND may also start to stumble soon, so a chance at the 4 seed or even 3 is not impossible yet.
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Phily getting ice cold offensively at the wrong right time
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Lol the Bucks trying so hard in the regular season
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
It's great to see Trae picking it up, especially when I said that the Hawks made it out like robbers in the trade lol. I expect that Mavs lotto pick to be pretty good, if the Hawks draft well they could get a very nice prospect.
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
It's great to see Trae picking it up, especially when I said that the Hawks made it out like robbers in the trade lol. I expect that Mavs lotto pick to be pretty good, if the Hawks draft well they could get a very nice prospect.
I still feel as if it's like if someone traded a potentially Bird like talent for a Mark Price and a Hot Rod Williams
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THE LAKERS ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD.
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You know, for as awful as the Cs have been, the Lakers have been so much worse. They are legit a dumpster fire. No way they make the playoffs.
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You know, for as awful as the Cs have been, the Lakers have been so much worse. They are legit a dumpster fire. No way they make the playoffs.
Pretty soon LeBron is going to get a phantom injury so that he can have a built-in excuse for their awfulness.
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You know, for as awful as the Cs have been, the Lakers have been so much worse. They are legit a dumpster fire. No way they make the playoffs.
Pretty soon LeBron is going to get a phantom injury so that he can have a built-in excuse for their awfulness.
Sorry man I don’t intentionally hurt folks :P
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You know, for as awful as the Cs have been, the Lakers have been so much worse. They are legit a dumpster fire. No way they make the playoffs.
LeBron every time he goes to a new team: "I understand it's going to be a process."
LeBron after two minutes of joining team: "Trade every young guy for whichever star is available."
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You know, for as awful as the Cs have been, the Lakers have been so much worse. They are legit a dumpster fire. No way they make the playoffs.
The really sad thing is that I could see the Lakers beating the Celtics in a 7 game series right now. We are that dysfunctional.
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You know, for as awful as the Cs have been, the Lakers have been so much worse. They are legit a dumpster fire. No way they make the playoffs.
The really sad thing is that I could see the Lakers beating the Celtics in a 7 game series right now. We are that dysfunctional.
Have you been watching LA games as of late? They look just as bad, if not worse than us.
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You know, for as awful as the Cs have been, the Lakers have been so much worse. They are legit a dumpster fire. No way they make the playoffs.
The really sad thing is that I could see the Lakers beating the Celtics in a 7 game series right now. We are that dysfunctional.
Have you been watching LA games as of late? They look just as bad, if not worse than us.
They still beat us that one time at the Garden. :-[
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You know, for as awful as the Cs have been, the Lakers have been so much worse. They are legit a dumpster fire. No way they make the playoffs.
The really sad thing is that I could see the Lakers beating the Celtics in a 7 game series right now. We are that dysfunctional.
Have you been watching LA games as of late? They look just as bad, if not worse than us.
They still beat us that one time at the Garden. :-[
Yeah and I really don't like our chances against them on the road this Saturday.
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You know, for as awful as the Cs have been, the Lakers have been so much worse. They are legit a dumpster fire. No way they make the playoffs.
The really sad thing is that I could see the Lakers beating the Celtics in a 7 game series right now. We are that dysfunctional.
Have you been watching LA games as of late? They look just as bad, if not worse than us.
They still beat us that one time at the Garden. :-[
After shooting 22-41 from three. Not sustainable at all
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Emmanuel Mudiay has quietly had quite a good year. 15/4/3 in 26MPG.
Liked him pre-draft, so I'm happy to see this
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LeFatty
play n lazy again
GO Patrick Beverly!
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suns came back and are up 4 on bucks with 18 seconds to go
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can someone tell me the least amount of wins the teams in front of LA can get from here in and still keep LA out if LA wins out?
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No more beating up on the bottom feeders in the East anymore for ole King James. His plan failed this year. Lakers should seriously think about trading him this summer. Whom outside of Davis do they have a chance on?
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can someone tell me the least amount of wins the teams in front of LA can get from here in and still keep LA out if LA wins out?
Lakers winning out would make them 48-34. Spurs are 36-29, would need 13 wins. LAC 37-29, need 12 more. Idk how the tiebreakers would work for each team honestly. Kings I believe would need 17 more wins.
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Emmanuel Mudiay has quietly had quite a good year. 15/4/3 in 26MPG.
Liked him pre-draft, so I'm happy to see this
He's slowly improving, though I'm not sure if you can put any stock in the numbers on that Knicks team.
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Emmanuel Mudiay has quietly had quite a good year. 15/4/3 in 26MPG.
Liked him pre-draft, so I'm happy to see this
He's slowly improving, though I'm not sure if you can put any stock in the numbers on that Knicks team.
Maybe he is a backup PG in this league.
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
It's great to see Trae picking it up, especially when I said that the Hawks made it out like robbers in the trade lol. I expect that Mavs lotto pick to be pretty good, if the Hawks draft well they could get a very nice prospect.
I still feel as if it's like if someone traded a potentially Bird like talent for a Mark Price and a Hot Rod Williams
I feel as if it's like if someone traded Manu for a potentially Curry like talent plus a wildcard lotto pick in a strong draft class.
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
It's great to see Trae picking it up, especially when I said that the Hawks made it out like robbers in the trade lol. I expect that Mavs lotto pick to be pretty good, if the Hawks draft well they could get a very nice prospect.
I still feel as if it's like if someone traded a potentially Bird like talent for a Mark Price and a Hot Rod Williams
I feel as if it's like if someone traded Manu for a potentially Curry like talent plus a wildcard lotto pick in a strong draft class.
Wuuuut. Doncic is already equal to if not better than Manu
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
It's great to see Trae picking it up, especially when I said that the Hawks made it out like robbers in the trade lol. I expect that Mavs lotto pick to be pretty good, if the Hawks draft well they could get a very nice prospect.
I still feel as if it's like if someone traded a potentially Bird like talent for a Mark Price and a Hot Rod Williams
I feel as if it's like if someone traded Manu for a potentially Curry like talent plus a wildcard lotto pick in a strong draft class.
Wuuuut. Doncic is already equal to if not better than Manu
Wuuuuuut. He's definitely not better than prime Manu lol.
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
It's great to see Trae picking it up, especially when I said that the Hawks made it out like robbers in the trade lol. I expect that Mavs lotto pick to be pretty good, if the Hawks draft well they could get a very nice prospect.
I still feel as if it's like if someone traded a potentially Bird like talent for a Mark Price and a Hot Rod Williams
I feel as if it's like if someone traded Manu for a potentially Curry like talent plus a wildcard lotto pick in a strong draft class.
Wuuuut. Doncic is already equal to if not better than Manu
Wuuuuuut. He's definitely not better than prime Manu lol.
If Doncic isn't as good as prime Manu now, and he isn't, he will be in a year or two from right now. But, come on....Trae Young a Steph Curry like player? This year's draft a strong draft? I don't know about those last two statements
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
It's great to see Trae picking it up, especially when I said that the Hawks made it out like robbers in the trade lol. I expect that Mavs lotto pick to be pretty good, if the Hawks draft well they could get a very nice prospect.
I still feel as if it's like if someone traded a potentially Bird like talent for a Mark Price and a Hot Rod Williams
I feel as if it's like if someone traded Manu for a potentially Curry like talent plus a wildcard lotto pick in a strong draft class.
Wuuuut. Doncic is already equal to if not better than Manu
Wuuuuuut. He's definitely not better than prime Manu lol.
If Doncic isn't as good as prime Manu now, and he isn't, he will be in a year or two from right now. But, come on....Trae Young a Steph Curry like player? This year's draft a strong draft? I don't know about those last two statements
Steph Curry the top 5 all-time PG.
Rofl
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So the Rockets are clobbering the Raps in Toronto. Maybe our loss to the Rockets wasn't as bad as it seemed at the time? Rockets playing really well. CP3 literally making the right play every time. G Green was playing well on both sides of the ball...
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So the Rockets are clobbering the Raps in Toronto. Maybe our loss to the Rockets wasn't as bad as it seemed at the time? Rockets playing really well. CP3 literally making the right play every time. G Green was playing well on both sides of the ball...
While I still hate the Rockets style, they are a talented team and a true threat to Golden State. People forget that if CP3 doesn't get hurt in last year's Game 5, Houston is probably in the Finals, not Golden State. Faried was a HUGE addition for them and if they can stay healthy, they'll be tough to beat. CP3 looks amazing, Capela, Faried and Nene in that front court is tough and of course you have Harden. Hell, while Eric Gordon may average 16 PPG, he can easily come in and drop 25-30 points in a game no problem (which he did against us unfortunately too). They are loaded.
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So the Rockets are clobbering the Raps in Toronto. Maybe our loss to the Rockets wasn't as bad as it seemed at the time? Rockets playing really well. CP3 literally making the right play every time. G Green was playing well on both sides of the ball...
While I still hate the Rockets style, they are a talented team and a true threat to Golden State. People forget that if CP3 doesn't get hurt in last year's Game 5, Houston is probably in the Finals, not Golden State. Faried was a HUGE addition for them and if they can stay healthy, they'll be tough to beat. CP3 looks amazing, Capela, Faried and Nene in that front court is tough and of course you have Harden. Hell, while Eric Gordon may average 16 PPG, he can easily come in and drop 25-30 points in a game no problem (which he did against us unfortunately too). They are loaded.
and just like that Toronto only down 1. that 18 point lead didn't last long.
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Houston thought they were playing Boston. Toronto don't roll over and die.
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Paul is 1 for 9 and Harden is 6 of 23 and they are up 8 on the Raptors in Toronto in the 4th. Their defense is spot on tonight. If they play defense like this they can threaten the Warriors
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Houston thought they were playing Boston. Toronto don't roll over and die.
Don't speak too soon. They just waited a little longer to do so. Looks like Toronto might actually lose by more than our Cs (not that it matters).
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Trae Young has 47 points.
Wow Hawks and Bulls in TRIPLE OT :o
And yeah, Doncic is a stud, but maybe this trade ends up a big win for BOTH teams (not just Dallas).
Young has looked phenomenal lately.
It's great to see Trae picking it up, especially when I said that the Hawks made it out like robbers in the trade lol. I expect that Mavs lotto pick to be pretty good, if the Hawks draft well they could get a very nice prospect.
I still feel as if it's like if someone traded a potentially Bird like talent for a Mark Price and a Hot Rod Williams
I feel as if it's like if someone traded Manu for a potentially Curry like talent plus a wildcard lotto pick in a strong draft class.
Wuuuut. Doncic is already equal to if not better than Manu
Wuuuuuut. He's definitely not better than prime Manu lol.
If Doncic isn't as good as prime Manu now, and he isn't, he will be in a year or two from right now. But, come on....Trae Young a Steph Curry like player? This year's draft a strong draft? I don't know about those last two statements
The Trae Young one was in response to Gouki saying Doncic's a potentially Larry Bird type of talent while Trae Young's ceiling is Mark Price. As for this year's draft, is it not a strong one? I've been hearing very good things about its prospects, and there have been quite some prospects who're jumping up in draft boards.
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So the Rockets are clobbering the Raps in Toronto. Maybe our loss to the Rockets wasn't as bad as it seemed at the time? Rockets playing really well. CP3 literally making the right play every time. G Green was playing well on both sides of the ball...
While I still hate the Rockets style, they are a talented team and a true threat to Golden State. People forget that if CP3 doesn't get hurt in last year's Game 5, Houston is probably in the Finals, not Golden State. Faried was a HUGE addition for them and if they can stay healthy, they'll be tough to beat. CP3 looks amazing, Capela, Faried and Nene in that front court is tough and of course you have Harden. Hell, while Eric Gordon may average 16 PPG, he can easily come in and drop 25-30 points in a game no problem (which he did against us unfortunately too). They are loaded.
I wish we got faried. He would fit our team better than Morris
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Houston thought they were playing Boston. Toronto don't roll over and die.
Don't speak too soon. They just waited a little longer to do so. Looks like Toronto might actually lose by more than our Cs (not that it matters).
yup, rockets beat the raptors by 12 one more than our loss to them
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
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Paul is 1 for 9 and Harden is 6 of 23 and they are up 8 on the Raptors in Toronto in the 4th. Their defense is spot on tonight. If they play defense like this they can threaten the Warriors
I have them beating the Warriors in 6 games in the second round of the playoffs.
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
Now 1.5 back of PHI for the 4 seed and if IND loses in about 22 hours from now, we’ll be 2 games back of the 3 seed 8)
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
Now 1.5 back of PHI for the 4 seed and if IND loses in about 22 hours from now, we’ll be 2 games back of the 3 seed 8)
I think we want to root for Philly at this point, y'all. A 4 seed against Indy would be ideal, and put us against Milwaukee in the second round, whom we match up well with.
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LeBron James passed Michael Jordan's NBA all-time scoring list.
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
Now 1.5 back of PHI for the 4 seed and if IND loses in about 22 hours from now, we’ll be 2 games back of the 3 seed 8)
I think we want to root for Philly at this point, y'all. A 4 seed against Indy would be ideal, and put us against Milwaukee in the second round, whom we match up well with.
Fair point. Either way a 5 seed isn’t ideal in any scenario so moving up is preferable
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LeBron James passed Michael Jordan's NBA all-time scoring list.
And guess when he did it? On the date of 3-6 :laugh: :P
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
Now 1.5 back of PHI for the 4 seed and if IND loses in about 22 hours from now, we’ll be 2 games back of the 3 seed 8)
I think we want to root for Philly at this point, y'all. A 4 seed against Indy would be ideal, and put us against Milwaukee in the second round, whom we match up well with.
Fair point. Either way a 5 seed isn’t ideal in any scenario so moving up is preferable
Definitely need the #4 seed, I agree. Indy has a brutal schedule to close the season:
MIL, PHI, NYK, OKC, DEN, POR, LAC, GS, DEN, OKC, BOS, ORL, DET, DET, BOS, BRK, ATL
That's pretty much all winning teams, or teams gunning for the playoffs--except two.
It could happen!
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Lakers losing again. Lebron must thank his lucky stars he stayed in the east all these years
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Lakers losing again. Lebron must thank his lucky stars he stayed in the east all these years
Magic's face watching the game is priceless!
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Rondo is sitting away from the Laker bench, protesting something- possibly being benched by coach? Lol
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Malcontent Rondo. What a season in Laker land
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So the Lakers are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention? Or do they still need to go 16-1 the rest of the way
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So the Lakers are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention? Or do they still need to go 16-1 the rest of the way
I think only the Suns and Knicks are eliminated so far.
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
Now 1.5 back of PHI for the 4 seed and if IND loses in about 22 hours from now, we’ll be 2 games back of the 3 seed 8)
I think we want to root for Philly at this point, y'all. A 4 seed against Indy would be ideal, and put us against Milwaukee in the second round, whom we match up well with.
Fair point. Either way a 5 seed isn’t ideal in any scenario so moving up is preferable
While I don’t want to drop games, I’m perfectly fine staying away from the 3 seed even though it’s well within grasp. Ideally we get the 4/5 matchup against Indy, leaving us with Milwaukee in the second round. I’d prefer to delay Toronto as long as possible, or best-case scenario Philly knocks them off (doubtful).
Of the top-4, I think Toronto is the biggest threat. They are a tough matchup and Kawhi is harder to game plan for than Giannis or Embiid.
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
Now 1.5 back of PHI for the 4 seed and if IND loses in about 22 hours from now, we’ll be 2 games back of the 3 seed 8)
I think we want to root for Philly at this point, y'all. A 4 seed against Indy would be ideal, and put us against Milwaukee in the second round, whom we match up well with.
Fair point. Either way a 5 seed isn’t ideal in any scenario so moving up is preferable
While I don’t want to drop games, I’m perfectly fine staying away from the 3 seed even though it’s well within grasp. Ideally we get the 4/5 matchup against Indy, leaving us with Milwaukee in the second round. I’d prefer to delay Toronto as long as possible, or best-case scenario Philly knocks them off (doubtful).
Of the top-4, I think Toronto is the biggest threat. They are a tough matchup and Kawhi is harder to game plan for than Giannis or Embiid.
Amen.
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
Now 1.5 back of PHI for the 4 seed and if IND loses in about 22 hours from now, we’ll be 2 games back of the 3 seed 8)
I think we want to root for Philly at this point, y'all. A 4 seed against Indy would be ideal, and put us against Milwaukee in the second round, whom we match up well with.
Fair point. Either way a 5 seed isn’t ideal in any scenario so moving up is preferable
While I don’t want to drop games, I’m perfectly fine staying away from the 3 seed even though it’s well within grasp. Ideally we get the 4/5 matchup against Indy, leaving us with Milwaukee in the second round. I’d prefer to delay Toronto as long as possible, or best-case scenario Philly knocks them off (doubtful).
Of the top-4, I think Toronto is the biggest threat. They are a tough matchup and Kawhi is harder to game plan for than Giannis or Embiid.
Amen.
I'd rather face them than Milwaukee-think we match up better against them for some reason.
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It was just reported by Chris Haynes that Lebron will be on a minutes restriction.
About 28-32 minutes per game, and likely will not play back-to-backs.
BREAKING: @ChrisBHaynes reports Lakers will put LeBron on a minutes restriction and likely won't let him play back-to-backs.
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It was just reported by Chris Haynes that Lebron will be on a minutes restriction.
About 28-32 minutes per game, and likely will not play back-to-backs.
BREAKING: @ChrisBHaynes reports Lakers will put LeBron on a minutes restriction and likely won't let him play back-to-backs.
This is going to be a big deal because it's LeBron, but it probably sounds worse than it is. It's late in the season, only 3 back-to-backs left (@TOR/@DET, WAS/@UTA, GS/@LAC), and 32mpg is a reasonable number. For comparison much younger legs like Donic, Hield, Tatum, Jokic only avg 31-32mpg, and other star vets like Kyrie, CP3, Giannis, Conley all avg 33mpg.
LeBron does not need to be playing 40mpg at his age, with nothing really on the line. Last 13 games (since he came back from injury), he's averaging 38mpg and had 5 games over 40 minutes.
If you told me Stevens was going to limit any player on the C's to 32mpg, and have them play only 14 of the 17 remaining games, I would think that's par for the course. If you told me a healthy All-Star like Towns or Beal on the outside of the playoffs would only play 32mpg and sit out 3 of the remaining games, I would think that's pretty normal and need no press release. But it's LeBron, so it will probably be a big deal.
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This Piston Squad is really coming together at the right time.
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This Piston Squad is really coming together at the right time.
Drummond's having a terrific season.
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This Piston Squad is really coming together at the right time.
Drummond's having a terrific season.
Blake and Jackson also look fully healthy. Pistons are a big fast team that can shoot.
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I don’t want to see the pacers in the first round !
Very impressive team!
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This Piston Squad is really coming together at the right time.
Drummond's having a terrific season.
Blake and Jackson also look fully healthy. Pistons are a big fast team that can shoot.
Pistons demolished the Bulls whom we had trouble...or should I say dismantled us easily...don't sleep on the Pistons.
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The Lakers are aggressively tanking. They are in the 10th spot now. They are only a game above the 9th slot... the difference between 10 and 9 is having a 11.7% chance at a Top 4 pick vs a 20.3% chance at a Top 4 pick. They will keep tanking. They might be able to get up to a 30% chance at a Top 4 pick if they keep aggressively trying to lose.
Depending on how this Ingram situation plays out, that pick may end up being their best trade asset.
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This Piston Squad is really coming together at the right time.
Drummond's having a terrific season.
Blake and Jackson also look fully healthy. Pistons are a big fast team that can shoot.
They always seem to play us tough, though if we’ve got home-court I like our chances.
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
Now 1.5 back of PHI for the 4 seed and if IND loses in about 22 hours from now, we’ll be 2 games back of the 3 seed 8)
I think we want to root for Philly at this point, y'all. A 4 seed against Indy would be ideal, and put us against Milwaukee in the second round, whom we match up well with.
Fair point. Either way a 5 seed isn’t ideal in any scenario so moving up is preferable
While I don’t want to drop games, I’m perfectly fine staying away from the 3 seed even though it’s well within grasp. Ideally we get the 4/5 matchup against Indy, leaving us with Milwaukee in the second round. I’d prefer to delay Toronto as long as possible, or best-case scenario Philly knocks them off (doubtful).
Of the top-4, I think Toronto is the biggest threat. They are a tough matchup and Kawhi is harder to game plan for than Giannis or Embiid.
Amen.
I'd rather face them than Milwaukee-think we match up better against them for some reason.
Finally somebody understand Kawhi Leonard is not like Giannis or Embiid... Kawhi is complete if you clog the paint he'll shoot jumpers all day and unlike Giannis and Embiid Kawhi is a **** machine, he's also smart he'll read the defense and make the right plays...
The Spurs made him what he is a born champion then they gave their precious baby to Toronto because nobody wants LA to win!!!
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The Lakers are aggressively tanking. They are in the 10th spot now. They are only a game above the 9th slot... the difference between 10 and 9 is having a 11.7% chance at a Top 4 pick vs a 20.3% chance at a Top 4 pick. They will keep tanking. They might be able to get up to a 30% chance at a Top 4 pick if they keep aggressively trying to lose.
Depending on how this Ingram situation plays out, that pick may end up being their best trade asset.
Did you ever think you would see a team with a healthy Lebron tanking the last month of season? Also if they do aggressively tank we probably get the Memphis pick this year
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The Lakers are aggressively tanking. They are in the 10th spot now. They are only a game above the 9th slot... the difference between 10 and 9 is having a 11.7% chance at a Top 4 pick vs a 20.3% chance at a Top 4 pick. They will keep tanking. They might be able to get up to a 30% chance at a Top 4 pick if they keep aggressively trying to lose.
Depending on how this Ingram situation plays out, that pick may end up being their best trade asset.
Did you ever think you would see a team with a healthy Lebron tanking the last month of season? Also if they do aggressively tank we probably get the Memphis pick this year
They're not really tanking as long as Lebron is still playing. They're just a mediocre team. They've thrown out some god awful lineups in previous seasons when they really were tanking.
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Sixers win! The chance for the #4 seed lives another day!
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This Piston Squad is really coming together at the right time.
Drummond's having a terrific season.
Blake and Jackson also look fully healthy. Pistons are a big fast team that can shoot.
They always seem to play us tough, though if we’ve got home-court I like our chances.
I agree, i like our chances against anyone. I'd Just like The Celtics to play The Sixers or Pacers than a hot Piston team with a healthy Jackson and Griffin. I think The Pistons are the best shooting team of the three.
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Sixers win! The chance for the #4 seed lives another day!
Win-win for us either way. Now we're 1 game back of both the Sixers and Pacers. Just keep pace at this point, and then see in the final few weeks where the playoff picture stands before deciding to win or "tank" games. We're better off with a 4 seed facing 5th seeded IND then MIL as opposed to playing DET, then Toronto (which would be the case if we get the 3 seed).
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Small sample size for my eyes...
but not too impressed with Sabonis' IQ in the Philly game.
If I were watching him play like that for the Celtics I'd be frustrated...
too much plodding and ball holding as he struggles towards the hoop against good defending bigs...bailed out on a clear offensive foul too.
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The Grizzlies just beat the Magic. A bummer for the Grizzlies pick, and for the Kings pick(Magic not far behind the Kings).
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The Grizzlies just beat the Magic. A bummer for the Grizzlies pick, and for the Kings pick(Magic not far behind the Kings).
I can’t really say we can go wrong on the Griz pick. C’s get 9 this year or it rolls over. Pretty good either way.
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The Spurs uniforms are crazy ugly!
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The Spurs are making a little room between the Kings and themselves!
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Sixers LOSE to the Bulls.
Pacers play the Bucks tomorrow.
A win tonight would be huge for both Kings Pick AND seeding purposes.
Now 1.5 back of PHI for the 4 seed and if IND loses in about 22 hours from now, we’ll be 2 games back of the 3 seed 8)
I think we want to root for Philly at this point, y'all. A 4 seed against Indy would be ideal, and put us against Milwaukee in the second round, whom we match up well with.
Fair point. Either way a 5 seed isn’t ideal in any scenario so moving up is preferable
While I don’t want to drop games, I’m perfectly fine staying away from the 3 seed even though it’s well within grasp. Ideally we get the 4/5 matchup against Indy, leaving us with Milwaukee in the second round. I’d prefer to delay Toronto as long as possible, or best-case scenario Philly knocks them off (doubtful).
Of the top-4, I think Toronto is the biggest threat. They are a tough matchup and Kawhi is harder to game plan for than Giannis or Embiid.
Amen.
I'd rather face them than Milwaukee-think we match up better against them for some reason.
Finally somebody understand Kawhi Leonard is not like Giannis or Embiid... Kawhi is complete if you clog the paint he'll shoot jumpers all day and unlike Giannis and Embiid Kawhi is a **** machine, he's also smart he'll read the defense and make the right plays...
The Spurs made him what he is a born champion then they gave their precious baby to Toronto because nobody wants LA to win!!!
Hey Somebody understands it, what're you talking about? 8)
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Huge Implication Game for us, Kings at Wizards. A Kings loss helps our pick and may be enough to keep them out of the playoffs, in which case LAC 1st will convey... a Wiz win gives the Memphis pick a tiny cushion to stay 6-7th worst.
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Wiz up 10 over Kings after 1st
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Wiz up 10 over Kings after 1st
And now the Kings up 1 at the half, after starting the game 4 of 20.
It’s ridiculous how lucky this team is. It would be poetic justice to land the #2 pick from the #14 lottery spot just to even things out.
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Toronto just got absolutely worked by the Cavs.
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Nice 2nd half lead now blown by the Wizards. Wiz up 1 with about 2 minutes left
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Wiz hanging in there! Up 4 a minute to go.
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Good win for the Sac pick! Thanks Wizards
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Time to look at tankathon
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Nets destroyed Pistons. Why is everyone scared of Detroit?
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Toronto just got absolutely worked by the Cavs.
This was shocking.
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Lot of contenders playing average basketball at the moment..
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who is the dirtier player and the bigger instigator/garbage/trouble making player
Green or Ibaka?
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who is the dirtier player and the bigger instigator/garbage/trouble making player
Green or Ibaka?
JR Smith or Zaza are probably the dirtiest, but the other two are bigger instigators I think.
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Lot of contenders playing average basketball at the moment..
playing NOT to get hurt .
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who is the dirtier player and the bigger instigator/garbage/trouble making player
Green or Ibaka?
JR Smith or Zaza are probably the dirtiest, but the other two are bigger instigators I think.
Just watched the play with Chriss. Ibaka is a real punk. Throw him OUT.
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Lakers getting pounded. They should just shut down lebron now out of embarrassment. He got the stats he wanted.
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Lakers coming back LOL ;D
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Lakers coming back LOL ;D
Bulls tanking like crazy lol
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Lakers coming back LOL ;D
Bulls tanking like crazy lol
Coach LeBron and LeBron the GM is gonna get mad cuz Lakers are supposed to be tanking
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Doncic 1-9 on free throws tonight ???
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Doncic 1-9 on free throws tonight ???
He probably wants Dallas to get their pick too ;)
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If you had told me on opening day that the Clips would be 5 games back from the Warriors in mid-March :o
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If you had told me on opening day that the Clips would be 5 games back from the Warriors in mid-March :o
but they aren't tho (although much better than anyone would suggest especially considering they traded one of their best players)
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Lebron did a shimmy for the crowd when the lakers went up 12 after a fast break in the 4th. It was probably the saddest moment I have seen in his career. 14 months after 8 straight finals
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If you had told me on opening day that the Clips would be 5 games back from the Warriors in mid-March :o
but they aren't tho (although much better than anyone would suggest especially considering they traded one of their best players)
Wonder how much is due to Doc
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Washington, half a game "behind" Memphis in the race for the #7 lottery spot, has a winnable game tonight at home vs Orlando, where they were 2 point favorites last time I checked.
Orlando -0.7 point differential on the road this year, Washington +3.7 at home against, on average, better teams.
Come on Washington! I watched their first half against the Kings this week and the body language was terrible.
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would be interesting to see what is said if Lakers without James beat the Pistons .
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crazy ending to pels/suns game. pels in-bounding ball up 3 with 7 seconds to go, they get called for 5 seconds and they tried to call time out (didnt have any left) so suns inbound... pels coaches tell the players to foul w/o allowing a 3 point shot, players didnt do it and suns hit a 3 to tie. alvin is upset and calls timeout on the inbounds but since they didnt have any suns get a free throw to win it
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Denver getting murdered by bad reffing...
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James looked gassed in loss to Knicks, shot blocked by Hezonga at end.
Feel his decline is becoming evident. Not cliff like, but reminds me of decline of our big 3 their last season. A lot of miles on those wheels.
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If you had told me on opening day that the Clips would be 5 games back from the Warriors in mid-March :o
but they aren't tho (although much better than anyone would suggest especially considering they traded one of their best players)
Wonder how much is due to Doc
Not sure if this means doubting Doc...but if so I see no reason to doubt him, going by the talent, the record, and the praise of players like Lou Williams, seems Doc is doing a heck of a good job.
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Doc has been one of the best coaches in the league for over a decade. He got way too much grief and not nearly as much credit on this site for the job he did here in Boston.
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ESPN wont show James getting block..now if he hit game winner, u see it all week
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Doc has been one of the best coaches in the league for over a decade. He got way too much grief and not nearly as much credit on this site for the job he did here in Boston.
That seems to be developing into a theme around. We've been fortunate enough to have really stable leadership and coaching for 15 years. It gets taken for granted.
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James looked gassed in loss to Knicks, shot blocked by Hezonga at end.
Feel his decline is becoming evident. Not cliff like, but reminds me of decline of our big 3 their last season. A lot of miles on those wheels.
I hope so... not because I have specific ill-will for LBJ, but because I do have ill-will for the Lakers. Not rooting for, or glad for, injuries of course, but I'm all for aging.
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The thing about Milwaukee is, if one of Middleton/Mirotic are struggling to shoot, then no matter what Giannis does the Bucks tend to find themselves in trouble. They're down by 15+ to PHI because both guys are struggling despite Giannis having 26/10 to this point. Also you can already tell they miss Brogdon's perimeter defense and PHI is taking advantage.
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lol @ those praising doc. Jerry West is performig his magic That is the major reason for Clippet turnaround.
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Sitting by himself ....ignoring his coach and team ....the dude is washed up,and toxic to franchises. If i was owner, he dbe on the trading block ASAP. La Diva clean out your locker
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Good to see the Bucks lose against the 76ers today! Helps us in the “Get the #4 seed” department
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This will never get old
(https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2019/03/17/b6879f2a-eb15-4a79-a601-7e7175ef48e5/thumbnail/1200x675/a17d309d1005cae6495b57b78cfd65ad/usatsi-12367729.jpg)
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This will never get old
(https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2019/03/17/b6879f2a-eb15-4a79-a601-7e7175ef48e5/thumbnail/1200x675/a17d309d1005cae6495b57b78cfd65ad/usatsi-12367729.jpg)
I'm going to make that my wallpaper for tomorrow at least ;D
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This will never get old
(https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2019/03/17/b6879f2a-eb15-4a79-a601-7e7175ef48e5/thumbnail/1200x675/a17d309d1005cae6495b57b78cfd65ad/usatsi-12367729.jpg)
I'm going to make that my wallpaper for tomorrow at least ;D
Funny thing is the last guy you'd expect to do this to Lebron would be Mario Hezonja.
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lol @ those praising doc. Jerry West is performig his magic That is the major reason for Clippet turnaround.
I agree.. The logo never seem to do anything wrong as a GM/executive.
Everything he touches has some kind of success one way or the other.. May not lead to immediate contention but just big improvements either way.
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lol @ those praising doc. Jerry West is performig his magic That is the major reason for Clippet turnaround.
I agree.. The logo never seem to do anything wrong as a GM/executive.
Everything he touches has some kind of success one way or the other.. May not lead to immediate contention but just big improvements either way.
Give doc credit. He has coached them up after trading Harris. Guys are playing hard for him. He deserves some credit
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Doc has been one of the best coaches in the league for over a decade. He got way too much grief and not nearly as much credit on this site for the job he did here in Boston.
I hear you, but I personally had a bad taste in my mouth that he basically demanded a trade because there was a two year rebuild scheduled
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Sitting by himself ....ignoring his coach and team ....the dude is washed up,and toxic to franchises. If i was owner, he dbe on the trading block ASAP. La Diva clean out your locker
Does he have a no trade?
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lol @ those praising doc. Jerry West is performig his magic That is the major reason for Clippet turnaround.
I agree.. The logo never seem to do anything wrong as a GM/executive.
Everything he touches has some kind of success one way or the other.. May not lead to immediate contention but just big improvements either way.
Give doc credit. He has coached them up after trading Harris. Guys are playing hard for him. He deserves some credit
Gallo having a career year. So is Lou.
I'd love to see them remove Houston in the first round (and then trade both guys to us!!)
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Sitting by himself ....ignoring his coach and team ....the dude is washed up,and toxic to franchises. If i was owner, he dbe on the trading block ASAP. La Diva clean out your locker
Does he have a no trade?
https://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-lebron-james-contract-details-opt-out-no-trade/2018/07/01/
Here is the breakdown for the LeBron James contract with the Los Angeles Lakers: $35.65M, $37.43M, $39.21M and $41M. He is not eligible for a no trade clause.
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This will never get old
(https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2019/03/17/b6879f2a-eb15-4a79-a601-7e7175ef48e5/thumbnail/1200x675/a17d309d1005cae6495b57b78cfd65ad/usatsi-12367729.jpg)
That's it, the Lakers are gonna throw a monster package to acquire Mario Hezonja.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D16GfA7WsAAqX-1.jpg:large)
Ok, this might be the best image, like of all time.
Meme upside is just ridiculous.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D16GfA7WsAAqX-1.jpg:large)
Ok, this might be the best image, like of all time.
Meme upside is just ridiculous.
Lol, I think Lebron is crying like the b@tch that he is
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Good to see the Bucks lose against the 76ers today! Helps us in the “Get the #4 seed” department
Embiid looked pretty good though w 40 and 15. If we play Philly in the playoffs, it won't be easy by any means, despite past success.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D16GfA7WsAAqX-1.jpg:large)
Ok, this might be the best image, like of all time.
Meme upside is just ridiculous.
It's the perfect rug-pull for the kind of overly-serious sports talk that goes on in the media and among fans. That it's Lebron and Mario Hezonja is just... perfect.
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Kyle Lowry suffers an ankle injury.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D16GfA7WsAAqX-1.jpg:large)
Ok, this might be the best image, like of all time.
Meme upside is just ridiculous.
It's the perfect rug-pull for the kind of overly-serious sports talk that goes on in the media and among fans. That it's Lebron and Mario Hezonja is just... perfect.
Thanks to Associated Press’s Seth Wenig on such a great photo.
Yes, the scene that took place in no other arena but MSG looks almost like it has been staged. In the front, we see LeBron, a champ, an MVP, and a winner of the gene pool. He is in the focus, resting his head on his knee after a tough loss. In the background, we see a blurry image of Mario Hezonja, a draft bust and a future journeyman pointing finger at LeBron and laughing joyously, while holding the game ball he just took away from him. What makes the image more interesting, is that we can observe the "unscharf" faces in the crowd, it feels like all of them are absolutely focused on LeBron, encaptured by his moment of failure.
In arts, an eternal motive of shame is often described by a character covering their face and genital area. Their most vulnerable and revealing parts.
Here is one such example:
(http://www.infozagreb.hr/media/places/ribnjak2-54212ac21eeaa.jpg)
"Shame" by Antun Augustinčić
Another side of the story is Dubrovnik's own wild-child Mario Hezonja, who, as far as I know him, thinks he is the best player in the world aside from maybe 3-4 guys. Don't listen to his post game comments, he said it right but he doesn't mean it. After blocking Lebron, he latently stared him down to make sure LeBron understands his dominance. He did a similar thing to Giannis by stepping over him. That is so pathetic that it is also endlessly amusing at the same time.
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Deyonta Davis (#31 from the LAC pick trade) signing 10 day with Hawks
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D16GfA7WsAAqX-1.jpg:large)
Ok, this might be the best image, like of all time.
Meme upside is just ridiculous.
It's the perfect rug-pull for the kind of overly-serious sports talk that goes on in the media and among fans. That it's Lebron and Mario Hezonja is just... perfect.
Thanks to Associated Press’s Seth Wenig on such a great photo.
Yes, the scene that took place in no other arena but MSG looks almost like it has been staged. In the front, we see LeBron, a champ, an MVP, and a winner of the gene pool. He is in the focus, resting his head on his knee after a tough loss. In the background, we see a blurry image of Mario Hezonja, a draft bust and a future journeyman pointing finger at LeBron and laughing joyously, while holding the game ball he just took away from him. What makes the image more interesting, is that we can observe the "unscharf" faces in the crowd, it feels like all of them are absolutely focused on LeBron, encaptured by his moment of failure.
In arts, an eternal motive of shame is often described by a character covering their face and genital area. Their most vulnerable and revealing parts.
Here is one such example:
(http://www.infozagreb.hr/media/places/ribnjak2-54212ac21eeaa.jpg)
"Shame" by Antun Augustinčić
Another side of the story is Dubrovnik's own wild-child Mario Hezonja, who, as far as I know him, thinks he is the best player in the world aside from maybe 3-4 guys. Don't listen to his post game comments, he said it right but he doesn't mean it. After blocking Lebron, he latently stared him down to make sure LeBron understands his dominance. He did a similar thing to Giannis by stepping over him. That is so pathetic that it is also endlessly amusing at the same time.
Great post, tp
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The 76s look like they beat The Hornets but the starters had to play full minutes. Embiid sat out or is he injured again.....
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The 76s look like they beat The Hornets but the starters had to play full minutes. Embiid sat out or is he injured again.....
Embiid was rested since they play us tomorrow. He's not going to play B2Bs.
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The 76s look like they beat The Hornets but the starters had to play full minutes. Embiid sat out or is he injured again.....
Embiid was rested since they play us tomorrow. He's not going to play B2Bs.
Yes they are saving Embiid for us.
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D'Angelo just murdering poor Yogi Ferrel out there - it's a big lead to eat into though.
GO NETS! (Love saying that now - could be my second fav team)
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D'Angelo just murdering poor Yogi Ferrel out there - it's a big lead to eat into though.
GO NETS! (Love saying that now - could be my second fav team)
D-Loading is the real deal. Single-handedly brought the Nets back
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D'Angelo just murdering poor Yogi Ferrel out there - it's a big lead to eat into though.
GO NETS! (Love saying that now - could be my second fav team)
D-Loading is the real deal. Single-handedly brought the Nets back
Lakers made a big mistake trading D'Angelo. It should've been Ball lol!
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D'Angelo just murdering poor Yogi Ferrel out there - it's a big lead to eat into though.
GO NETS! (Love saying that now - could be my second fav team)
D-Loading is the real deal. Single-handedly brought the Nets back
Lakers made a big mistake trading D'Angelo. It should've been Ball lol!
Honestly! Russell is exactly what they're missing, besides defence
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Go Nets!!!
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D'Angelo Russell was sweetner in a salary dump and he's probably going to make a couple of All-Star teams.
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THank you BKN!!
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OH MAN. Brooklyn! What a CRAZY comeback!
(Hello AD).
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Last I saw, Nets were down a dozen with about 7 minutes left. Really surprised and glad for the comeback. With Clips win, Kings have a ton of ground to cover to sniff the playoffs. Unfortunately, seems no one else in the West is interested in winning. Sac looks frimly planted in the #14 slot. I guess Orlando and Charlotte haven’t given up yet and have a chance to pass Sac.
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Pacers keep losing—meaning we’re still able to reach the #4 seed! I hope they keep struggling on their West road trip
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Pacers keep losing—meaning we’re still able to reach the #4 seed! I hope they keep struggling on their West road trip
Their next two games are Golden State and Denver. I feel confident we'll pass them for the 4 seed relatively soon. A win tonight puts us in a tie with them for the 4 seed actually.
4 seed is the ideal scenario. Play IND first round (w/HCA), then MIL (now without Brogdon). Toronto to me is the most balanced/dangerous team in the East, with the best playoff performer in the conference, and I'd rather avoid them until the ECF (or hope PHI upsets them 2nd round). I also think DET/BKN are no "pushovers" either so it's not like drawing either wlll make it an "easier" first round.
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Just saw it on Instagram, Harden scored 30+ point against every single NBA team.
First one to do so, very impressive!
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Clippers have 10 games left, the Kings I believe 12 left, and Kings are 7 games back. Clips going 5-5 in their last 10 puts them at 47-35.
Clips play Cavs twice, Knicks, Lakers, and Memphis and should be able to go 5-5 in their last 10 games, but may struggle to win more than 5-6.
Luckily, 5-6 wins would lock them into no lower than the 8th seed, and if they don't get many more, they should finish #7 or ideally #8 in the West and also hopefully finish below the top 5 teams in the East, who should all be able to finish with 48+ wins unless Indy collapses. That's pick #18 or #19.
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Just saw it on Instagram, Harden scored 30+ point against every single NBA team.
First one to do so, very impressive!
Very impressive indeed, but I still dislike his game
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Looking like we will get the Clips pick, and about as high a pick as we could get from it. Good news. Not as good news on the Sac pick, as it is much higher than we had hoped for...Memphis is still very much unknown. Not sure if we are even better off with say 9th pick this year versus 7th next year or unprotected year after that. One in the hand and all that. If the 1 and done goes away soon a future pick may be worth more...
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We lost to Philly tonight but The Rockets lost to Memphis and The Bucks lost to The Cavs.
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Kawhi Leonard will get better in the playoffs the Same cant be said for the rest of the stars in the east
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This model really really like Toronto.
(https://i.ibb.co/m0WrJyk/Screenshot-20190321-042135-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m0WrJyk)
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Saw online that Suns are considering signing Jimmer Fredette
https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1108523200739069952
Suns are meeting with former BYU star Jimmer Fredette tomorrow, could sign for remainder of season.
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So Orlando has a chance to make the playoffs, which just really surprised me. They are 1.5 games back from Miami. Orlando plays Memphis tonight and MIA plays MIL. So could be only .5 games back after tonight.
Looking at their remaining schedules....it could go either way as neither has many easy games left
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So Orlando has a chance to make the playoffs, which just really surprised me. They are 1.5 games back from Miami. Orlando plays Memphis tonight and MIA plays MIL. So could be only .5 games back after tonight.
Looking at their remaining schedules....it could go either way as neither has many easy games left
I think it would actually be best for both of those franchises if Orlando made the playoffs and Miami missed.
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James Harden is pretty pretty pretty good
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James Harden is pretty pretty pretty good
He is.
Question is, can he help the Rockets knock off the Warriors and make it to the finals?
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James Harden is pretty pretty pretty good
He is.
Question is, can he help the Rockets knock off the Warriors and make it to the finals?
If Chris Paul and Clint Capela are healthy, I see Houston beating the Warriors in 6.
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James Harden is pretty pretty pretty good
He is.
Question is, can he help the Rockets knock off the Warriors and make it to the finals?
If Chris Paul and Clint Capela are healthy, I see Houston beating the Warriors in 6.
Houston probably has the best chance of anyone in the West. Maybe Denver?
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James Harden is pretty pretty pretty good
He is.
Question is, can he help the Rockets knock off the Warriors and make it to the finals?
If Chris Paul and Clint Capela are healthy, I see Houston beating the Warriors in 6.
Houston probably has the best chance of anyone in the West. Maybe Denver?
Don't see Denver making the WCF and it wouldn't surprise me if they get bounced in the 1st round.
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The Lakers are officially eliminated from playoff contention after losing to Brooklyn Nets at Staples Center.
There will be NO LeBron James in the NBA playoffs!!! :o
Can you say perfect revenge for D'Angelo Russell?
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Lakers have been eliminated again, 6 years in a row now. Oh happy day! (http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/graemlins/thewave.gif)
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Lakers have been eliminated again, 6 years in a row now. Oh happy day! (http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/graemlins/thewave.gif)
TP. I notice there are 7 gremlins cheering. Hopefully that's a premonition for next season too.
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The Lakers are officially eliminated from playoff contention after losing to Brooklyn Nets at Staples Center.
There will be NO LeBron James in the NBA playoffs!!! :o
Can you say perfect revenge for D'Angelo Russell?
This has been unofficially officially for weeks now and the Lakers have tanked accordingly. pathetic!
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James Harden is pretty pretty pretty good
He is.
Question is, can he help the Rockets knock off the Warriors and make it to the finals?
If Chris Paul and Clint Capela are healthy, I see Houston beating the Warriors in 6.
Houston probably has the best chance of anyone in the West. Maybe Denver?
Don't see Denver making the WCF and it wouldn't surprise me if they get bounced in the 1st round.
Lol. A team that is a top 2 seed currently with a 30-6 home record getting bounced in the first round? Crazy talk
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James Harden is pretty pretty pretty good
He is.
Question is, can he help the Rockets knock off the Warriors and make it to the finals?
If Chris Paul and Clint Capela are healthy, I see Houston beating the Warriors in 6.
Houston probably has the best chance of anyone in the West. Maybe Denver?
Don't see Denver making the WCF and it wouldn't surprise me if they get bounced in the 1st round.
Lol. A team that is a top 2 seed currently with a 30-6 home record getting bounced in the first round? Crazy talk
There's a lot of parity in the West with GSW coasting. Denver is only 18-15 against .500 or better teams. They are 1-2 against the Spurs and the Jazz so far this season. This will be the first time in the playoffs for many of their players.
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James Harden is pretty pretty pretty good
He is.
Question is, can he help the Rockets knock off the Warriors and make it to the finals?
If Chris Paul and Clint Capela are healthy, I see Houston beating the Warriors in 6.
Houston probably has the best chance of anyone in the West. Maybe Denver?
Don't see Denver making the WCF and it wouldn't surprise me if they get bounced in the 1st round.
Lol. A team that is a top 2 seed currently with a 30-6 home record getting bounced in the first round? Crazy talk
There's a lot of parity in the West with GSW coasting. Denver is only 18-15 against .500 or better teams. They are 1-2 against the Spurs and the Jazz so far this season. This will be the first time in the playoffs for many of their players.
I can probably only see Denver losing in a 2 vs 7 playoff matchup (OKC/Utah/Clippers/Spurs). Inexperience and lack of pure star talent will doom them. Portland is the other team who could lose their 4 vs 5 battle too depending on how they go.
But I can't see Denver advancing to the WCF. It's gonna be GSW-HOU eventually.
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hawks beat 76'rs, mavs demolishing GSW
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You get to see the whackiest results in the NBA in late March and April. That is for sure.
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You get to see the whackiest results in the NBA in late March and April. That is for sure.
Dirk having a throwback game was pretty awesome tbh
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You get to see the whackiest results in the NBA in late March and April. That is for sure.
Dirk having a throwback game was pretty awesome tbh
Seeing LeBron get eliminated from the playoffs was pretty awesome too, though for very different reasons. It's not often you get to see LeBron get eliminated from the playoffs.
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You get to see the whackiest results in the NBA in late March and April. That is for sure.
Makes you wonder if these players have just tuned out and are just waiting for the playoffs to start.
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You get to see the whackiest results in the NBA in late March and April. That is for sure.
Dirk having a throwback game was pretty awesome tbh
Seeing LeBron get eliminated from the playoffs was pretty awesome too, though for very different reasons. It's not often you get to see LeBron get eliminated from the playoffs.
If only Dirk could've been the one to put him out of playoff contention, but I'll settle for the D Russell revenge tour
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You get to see the whackiest results in the NBA in late March and April. That is for sure.
Dirk having a throwback game was pretty awesome tbh
Seeing LeBron get eliminated from the playoffs was pretty awesome too, though for very different reasons. It's not often you get to see LeBron get eliminated from the playoffs.
If only Dirk could've been the one to put him out of playoff contention, but I'll settle for the D Russell revenge tour
The Hezonja block party game was pretty spectacular too.
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You get to see the whackiest results in the NBA in late March and April. That is for sure.
Dirk having a throwback game was pretty awesome tbh
Seeing LeBron get eliminated from the playoffs was pretty awesome too, though for very different reasons. It's not often you get to see LeBron get eliminated from the playoffs.
If only Dirk could've been the one to put him out of playoff contention, but I'll settle for the D Russell revenge tour
Magic traded Russell saying he wanted a leader at PG (Lonzo).
Russell then goes on to return to LA as the leader/alpha of his playoff team and officially eliminates the Lakers from the playoff hunt.
Oh sweet justice! 8)
Randle, Lopez, Russell, Zubac. Lakers must be kicking themselves for letting go/trading them.
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Sixers got hammered by Orlando and it looks like the Thunder are losing again. The Thunder will have the same record as The Celtics after this game. Which makes the Thunder 6th in the west and setup for a 1st round match up against The Rockets.
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Apparently rumor has it Kawhi really happy in Toronto and is willing to accept 190 million 5 years...
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Jusuf Nurkic snapped his left leg in half similarly to Gordon Hayward's gruesome injury. Out for the rest of the season and maybe well into next season.
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Jusuf Nurkic snapped his left leg in half similarly to Gordon Hayward's gruesome injury. Out for the rest of the season and maybe well into next season.
Ugh. Horrible.
Really liked how he'd been playing for Portland, and generally how they'd been rolling this season.
Hope he can heal up quickly
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That was even uglier than Hayward's.
The ref stupidly stepping on the snapped leg was pretty hard to watch too.
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Westbrook with back to back 6-20 FGAs games.
He had a 2-16 FGAs a few games ago too.
Rotten.
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Terrible news on Nurkic, he was having a solid season too. Commiserations to the guy, wouldn't wish that on anyone. But he can look to both PG13 and Hayward for hope and inspiration as he starts his long road to recovery. It will take a while but he'll be back good as ever.
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Jusuf Nurkic snapped his left leg in half similarly to Gordon Hayward's gruesome injury. Out for the rest of the season and maybe well into next season.
Ugh. Horrible.
Really liked how he'd been playing for Portland, and generally how they'd been rolling this season.
Hope he can heal up quickly
Awful awful awful.
One of my favorite teams in the league. Really liked them with Nurkic.
Really sad.
Why do these lower leg breaks keep happening?
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Jusuf Nurkic snapped his left leg in half similarly to Gordon Hayward's gruesome injury. Out for the rest of the season and maybe well into next season.
Ugh. Horrible.
Really liked how he'd been playing for Portland, and generally how they'd been rolling this season.
Hope he can heal up quickly
Awful awful awful.
One of my favorite teams in the league. Really liked them with Nurkic.
Really sad.
Why do these lower leg breaks keep happening?
In this incident Nurkic landed on Jared Dudley's foot and I guess his tibia and fibula gave way. More like PG13's injury than Gordon's though equally severe.
To make things worse one of the referees, Tyler Ford, actually walked over him and kicked him (accidentally I guess) on the injured foot. Looked back at Nurkic writhing on the ground and kept walking away. Total carelessness and lack of professionalism. You don't walk over an injured player under any circumstances.
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Apparently rumor has it Kawhi really happy in Toronto and is willing to accept 190 million 5 years...
as much as I don't want to see Toronto improve, I like this for the game of basketball and the state of the NBA where star players aren't rushing to LA nor are they all flocking to form superteams. kudos to Toronto for taking a risk which looks to be panning out for them should this rumor be true
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Jusuf Nurkic snapped his left leg in half similarly to Gordon Hayward's gruesome injury. Out for the rest of the season and maybe well into next season.
Ugh. Horrible.
Really liked how he'd been playing for Portland, and generally how they'd been rolling this season.
Hope he can heal up quickly
Awful awful awful.
One of my favorite teams in the league. Really liked them with Nurkic.
Really sad.
Why do these lower leg breaks keep happening?
In this incident Nurkic landed on Jared Dudley's foot and I guess his tibia and fibula gave way. More like PG13's injury than Gordon's though equally severe.
To make things worse one of the referees, Tyler Ford, actually walked over him and kicked him (accidentally I guess) on the injured foot. Looked back at Nurkic writhing on the ground and kept walking away. Total carelessness and lack of professionalism. You don't walk over an injured player under any circumstances.
Dang whatever happened to employment safety these days
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That was even uglier than Hayward's.
The ref stupidly stepping on the snapped leg was pretty hard to watch too.
Seriously one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on a basketball court. That ref needs to be sidelined for that. I mean even if he didnt just snap his leg in half, hes on the ground in obvious pain and you choose to step on his leg? Lol
That was worse than when gordo was holding onto his dangling ankle and the ref staring right at him refused to call a stop to play or anything. Also kind of wished one of his teammates stayed with him there for support. I remember the Louisville players injury years ago and one of the kids teammates sat there holding his arm for support keeping him calm.
Hate to see stuff like this, get well soon Nurkic!!
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This one's pretty good.
Stephenson embarrassing Jeff Green during tonight's Lakers/Wizards game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYArztJVMGs
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Bucks guard Donte DiVincenzo out for the season with a bilateral heel bursitis in his left foot.
A lot of injuries are piling up....
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Jusuf Nurkic snapped his left leg in half similarly to Gordon Hayward's gruesome injury. Out for the rest of the season and maybe well into next season.
Yeah, this was awful.
You hate to see this happen to anybody. Nurkic is hell of a player.
I still remember the awful feeling of seeing this happen to Hayward.
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This one's pretty good.
Stephenson embarrassing Jeff Green during tonight's Lakers/Wizards game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYArztJVMGs
He stepped on his foot LOL.
But I like the initial Lakers bench reaction, that was more hilarious than the "ankle-breaker". Should've been a technical foul on the Lakers bench for interfering on the court while game was still in progress though.
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Lakers have taken their draft position out of Lebron’s hands, he is resting for maintenance tonight. I don’t blame them I guess. No more back to backs for him this year.
https://www.nba.com/article/2019/03/27/lakers-lebron-james-out-tonight-jazz
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The Thunder better get it together and beat The Pacers tonight. They are in danger of falling into the 8th spot.
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The Thunder better get it together and beat The Pacers tonight. They are in danger of falling into the 8th spot.
They'll still make the playoffs, but it's just a matter of facing GSW, DEN, or HOU in round 1.
I like the GSW/OKC matchup tho.
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Jeff Van Gundy just told a funny story about the C's (that I actually remember for the most part).
So while playing with the C's, Dana Barros set the record for the most consecutive games with at least one made 3 (I believe it was 89 without looking it up).
That streak ended against the Knicks. The Knicks had the game in the bag, but Barros still didn't have a 3 so Barros was gunning for one, but the Knicks players weren't letting him get one.
After the game ML Carr was so mad he threw the ball at Knicks coach Don Nelson, but Van Gundy said not letting Barros get an easy 3 wasn't called for by Nelson, it's just the players didn't want to give it up. This was all in regards to whether the Utah coach called for the players to foul so Booker couldn't get 60.
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The Thunder better get it together and beat The Pacers tonight. They are in danger of falling into the 8th spot.
They'll still make the playoffs, but it's just a matter of facing GSW, DEN, or HOU in round 1.
I like the GSW/OKC matchup tho.
They will but falling into the 8th spot won't be good.
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Thunder win! Yet again, we find ourselves just 1 game back of IND for the 4 seed.
And oh look, we play Indiana in 2 days. ;)
We may be done with the regular season (wishing the playoffs would just come) but if there are two games left that truly matter, it's the two remaining clashes with Indiana. First one is this Friday, and a win puts us into a tie with them for the 4 seed and (temporarily) with the tiebreaker as well.
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Thunder win! Yet again, we find ourselves just 1 game back of IND for the 4 seed.
And oh look, we play Indiana in 2 days. ;)
We may be done with the regular season (wishing the playoffs would just come) but if there are two games left that truly matter, it's the two remaining clashes with Indiana. First one is this Friday, and a win puts us into a tie with them for the 4 seed and (temporarily) with the tiebreaker as well.
It's crazy to think we are hoping for the 4th seed at this point. If we are going to make a dent in the playoffs, we will have to galvanize. I do think a strong showing in the first round could really energize us, and HCA would help with that.
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Thunder win! Yet again, we find ourselves just 1 game back of IND for the 4 seed.
And oh look, we play Indiana in 2 days. ;)
We may be done with the regular season (wishing the playoffs would just come) but if there are two games left that truly matter, it's the two remaining clashes with Indiana. First one is this Friday, and a win puts us into a tie with them for the 4 seed and (temporarily) with the tiebreaker as well.
It's crazy to think we are hoping for the 4th seed at this point. If we are going to make a dent in the playoffs, we will have to galvanize. I do think a strong showing in the first round could really energize us, and HCA would help with that.
The 4th seed has made it to the Conference Finals/NBA Finals frequently so that one is important!
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Thunder win! Yet again, we find ourselves just 1 game back of IND for the 4 seed.
And oh look, we play Indiana in 2 days. ;)
We may be done with the regular season (wishing the playoffs would just come) but if there are two games left that truly matter, it's the two remaining clashes with Indiana. First one is this Friday, and a win puts us into a tie with them for the 4 seed and (temporarily) with the tiebreaker as well.
It's crazy to think we are hoping for the 4th seed at this point. If we are going to make a dent in the playoffs, we will have to galvanize. I do think a strong showing in the first round could really energize us, and HCA would help with that.
The 4th seed has made it to the Conference Finals/NBA Finals frequently so that one is important!
Agreed.
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Kevin Durant shot 92% from the field tonight. Incredible.
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I just watched the Jazz stoll through the Lakers.
Their style is so distinctive. Lots of Ingles/Rubio/Neto with Favors/Rudy pick and ROLL (NEVER pop).
ALWAYS having both corner 3 point shooters in position.
ALWAYS go over screens, recover.
They could seriously do some damage in the playoffs.
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Jonas V with another very solid outing.
Dude is really and underrated player. Puts up good numbers, efficient, good defender.
He is player like Baynes that actually gives production.
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Jonas V with another very solid outing.
Dude is really and underrated player. Puts up good numbers, efficient, good defender.
He is player like Baynes that actually gives production.
He always looks a couple steps slow on defense when I watch him.
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Jonas V with another very solid outing.
Dude is really and underrated player. Puts up good numbers, efficient, good defender.
He is player like Baynes that actually gives production.
He always looks a couple steps slow on defense when I watch him.
Agreed. Below par defender. Too slow.
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Jonas V with another very solid outing.
Dude is really and underrated player. Puts up good numbers, efficient, good defender.
He is player like Baynes that actually gives production.
He always looks a couple steps slow on defense when I watch him.
Agreed. Below par defender. Too slow.
He has shown alot of improvement since he slimmed down a year or so ago.
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Jonas V with another very solid outing.
Dude is really and underrated player. Puts up good numbers, efficient, good defender.
He is player like Baynes that actually gives production.
He always looks a couple steps slow on defense when I watch him.
Agreed. Below par defender. Too slow.
yup.....too slow ....he had good games against us , we neverhave a young healthy centers . But, raps fans hated on him like we did Zeller . They watched him every game and was not liked fr being slow and too soft. Weak defense. He d be worse than Baynes
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Jonas V with another very solid outing.
Dude is really and underrated player. Puts up good numbers, efficient, good defender.
He is player like Baynes that actually gives production.
He always looks a couple steps slow on defense when I watch him.
Agreed. Below par defender. Too slow.
The Grizz do have a 113.7 defensive rating during the minutes that Valanciunas has played this season, per NBA wowy. (so, pretty bad)
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Thought this was interesting - since the Tobias Harris trade:
Sixers: 13-7
Clippers: 15-5
What a season for the Clips. Doc probably won't win but he's earned some Coach of the Year votes for sure.
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Jonas V with another very solid outing.
Dude is really and underrated player. Puts up good numbers, efficient, good defender.
He is player like Baynes that actually gives production.
He always looks a couple steps slow on defense when I watch him.
Agreed. Below par defender. Too slow.
The Grizz do have a 113.7 defensive rating during the minutes that Valanciunas has played this season, per NBA wowy. (so, pretty bad)
But the Grizz are pretty bad too. lol
I mean it isnt like he has defensive stalwarts defending the wings.
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Thought this was interesting - since the Tobias Harris trade:
Sixers: 13-7
Clippers: 15-5
What a season for the Clips. Doc probably won't win but he's earned some Coach of the Year votes for sure.
Sixers may have a tough first round. they are 2:2 with the magic, 1:2 with BKN.
The pistons is who they want.
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Thought this was interesting - since the Tobias Harris trade:
Sixers: 13-7
Clippers: 15-5
What a season for the Clips. Doc probably won't win but he's earned some Coach of the Year votes for sure.
I think coach of the year has to be coach Bud. That's a hell of a turnaround for the Bucks.
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Thought this was interesting - since the Tobias Harris trade:
Sixers: 13-7
Clippers: 15-5
What a season for the Clips. Doc probably won't win but he's earned some Coach of the Year votes for sure.
I think coach of the year has to be coach Bud. That's a hell of a turnaround for the Bucks.
It's him or Mike Malone and generally tie goes to the highest win team, so I agree, he's gotta be the favorite.
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Thought this was interesting - since the Tobias Harris trade:
Sixers: 13-7
Clippers: 15-5
What a season for the Clips. Doc probably won't win but he's earned some Coach of the Year votes for sure.
I think coach of the year has to be coach Bud. That's a hell of a turnaround for the Bucks.
It's him or Mike Malone and generally tie goes to the highest win team, so I agree, he's gotta be the favorite.
It'll be interesting, though. Doc has to be in the conversation and Nate McMillan could sneak in if Indy winds up the 4th seed when it's all said and done. I don't think (hope?) they will but I can't discount it yet.
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Wow, this Warriors/Timberwolves game is insane!
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Wow, this Warriors/Timberwolves game is insane!
sure was! i was torn between flip’s son winning a big game and keeping his job and that helping the lakers pick which i don’t want
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Lakers screwing their own pick. lol.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but as it currently stands...
The 7 win differential between the top seed and the 8th seed has to be a record of sorts historically. I mean teams are so stacked in the West that it bears notice that virtually every game and win counts for HC advantage that all remaining games are dog fights up to game 82.
Its almost given that the top 4 seeds will breeze in the playoffs but this Yr has that look that many upsets are in the making.. And yes I find the Warriors currently as vulnerable as any one.
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I liked this stat:
Steph Curry just had his 8th career game with 11 three pointers or more. Everyone else in NBA History ? 8 games.
Steph has as many 11+ three pointer games individually as the rest of the players in NBA History do collectively.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but as it currently stands...
The 7 win differential between the top seed and the 8th seed has to be a record of sorts historically. I mean teams are so stacked in the West that it bears notice that virtually every game and win counts for HC advantage that all remaining games are dog fights up to game 82.
Its almost given that the top 4 seeds will breeze in the playoffs but this Yr has that look that many upsets are in the making.. And yes I find the Warriors currently as vulnerable as any one.
In 2009-10, the top 8 teams in the West finished within 7 games of each other and they all had 50+wins. Same thing in 2007-08.
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I guess Lebron didn't get the Lakers' tank memo.
Props to him.
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I think it would be fabulous if the Warriors and Thunder played in the first round, as I think the Thunder match-up pretty well with the Warriors such that they will have to work in that series. They could then face Houston in round 2 before Denver in the WCF. A gauntlet like that and they could be tired an vulnerable in the Finals if they make it through. I mean the year the Cavs beat them was the only year the Warriors were challenged at all in the playoffs. They need a tough road.
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I think it would be fabulous if the Warriors and Thunder played in the first round, as I think the Thunder match-up pretty well with the Warriors such that they will have to work in that series. They could then face Houston in round 2 before Denver in the WCF. A gauntlet like that and they could be tired an vulnerable in the Finals if they make it through. I mean the year the Cavs beat them was the only year the Warriors were challenged at all in the playoffs. They need a tough road.
Yeah, except Denver is the one team that doesn't seem to give them any trouble. Plus I could see Denver bowing out before the Western Conf finals. Their record vs. Western Conf teams with good records is not good.
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If the Celts beat Indy again on Friday, do they clinch the 4th seed?
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If the Celts beat Indy again on Friday, do they clinch the 4th seed?
no they can still have a worse record depending on the other games. BUT if we end up tied we will have the tiebreaker even if we lose next friday to them
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If the Celts beat Indy again on Friday, do they clinch the 4th seed?
no they can still have a worse record depending on the other games. BUT if we end up tied we will have the tiebreaker even if we lose next friday to them
I see, thank you!!
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Side note for comedy and our distaste for the Lakers. Last night they won for the 3rd time in 4 games all against fellow lottery teams. There are 5 teams between 30 and 35 wins. This stretch theoretically could have moved their pick from the 5th or 6th worst odds to the 10th worst spot (where it is now). Worse for them, last night they played Rondo 35 minutes, Lebron 32, Lance 29, and KCP 33 as 4 of their top 5 players. They played their young guy Wagner 11 minutes.
This is pretty crazy management of their team in my opinion and I am wondering what is going on with it. Despite playing on an injury Lebron's physical therapist should have sidelined him 6 months Lebron is running out an average of 35 minutes a game the last 4 games. is this about him trying to get stats for all times? I haven't really seen something like this in the last few years since teams wised up about minutes management.
I will add, I think there are some negatives of season long tanking or benching healthy players too much early in the season. However, running a 35 year old player that isn't in perfect health into the ground with 35 minutes a game when your team has been eliminated is crazy.
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Side note for comedy and our distaste for the Lakers. Last night they won for the 3rd time in 4 games all against fellow lottery teams. There are 5 teams between 30 and 35 wins. This stretch theoretically could have moved their pick from the 5th or 6th worst odds to the 10th worst spot (where it is now). Worse for them, last night they played Rondo 35 minutes, Lebron 32, Lance 29, and KCP 33 as 4 of their top 5 players. They played their young guy Wagner 11 minutes.
This is pretty crazy management of their team in my opinion and I am wondering what is going on with it. Despite playing on an injury Lebron's physical therapist should have sidelined him 6 months Lebron is running out an average of 35 minutes a game the last 4 games. is this about him trying to get stats for all times? I haven't really seen something like this in the last few years since teams wised up about minutes management.
It's about LeBron trying to show he didn't tank the season ( which he did, by putting this crap team together) and him padding his stats against really bad teams.
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LeBron has been shut down for ROS according to Woj
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Side note for comedy and our distaste for the Lakers. Last night they won for the 3rd time in 4 games all against fellow lottery teams. There are 5 teams between 30 and 35 wins. This stretch theoretically could have moved their pick from the 5th or 6th worst odds to the 10th worst spot (where it is now). Worse for them, last night they played Rondo 35 minutes, Lebron 32, Lance 29, and KCP 33 as 4 of their top 5 players. They played their young guy Wagner 11 minutes.
This is pretty crazy management of their team in my opinion and I am wondering what is going on with it. Despite playing on an injury Lebron's physical therapist should have sidelined him 6 months Lebron is running out an average of 35 minutes a game the last 4 games. is this about him trying to get stats for all times? I haven't really seen something like this in the last few years since teams wised up about minutes management.
I will add, I think there are some negatives of season long tanking or benching healthy players too much early in the season. However, running a 35 year old player that isn't in perfect health into the ground with 35 minutes a game when your team has been eliminated is crazy.
Wagner isn't any good. I mean who else are they supposed to play after all Alex Caruso played 18 minutes and Johnathan Williams played 21. Scott Machado and Isaac Bonga actually played in the game.
With Ball, Hart, and Ingram out for the year and then Bullock, Chandler, and Muscala not available it isn't like the Lakers had many options.
BTW, Lebron is now officially shut down for the rest of hte year after aggravating the groin last night.
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Side note for comedy and our distaste for the Lakers. Last night they won for the 3rd time in 4 games all against fellow lottery teams. There are 5 teams between 30 and 35 wins. This stretch theoretically could have moved their pick from the 5th or 6th worst odds to the 10th worst spot (where it is now). Worse for them, last night they played Rondo 35 minutes, Lebron 32, Lance 29, and KCP 33 as 4 of their top 5 players. They played their young guy Wagner 11 minutes.
This is pretty crazy management of their team in my opinion and I am wondering what is going on with it. Despite playing on an injury Lebron's physical therapist should have sidelined him 6 months Lebron is running out an average of 35 minutes a game the last 4 games. is this about him trying to get stats for all times? I haven't really seen something like this in the last few years since teams wised up about minutes management.
I will add, I think there are some negatives of season long tanking or benching healthy players too much early in the season. However, running a 35 year old player that isn't in perfect health into the ground with 35 minutes a game when your team has been eliminated is crazy.
Wagner isn't any good. I mean who else are they supposed to play after all Alex Caruso played 18 minutes and Johnathan Williams played 21. Scott Machado and Isaac Bonga actually played in the game.
With Ball, Hart, and Ingram out for the year and then Bullock, Chandler, and Muscala not available it isn't like the Lakers had many options.
BTW, Lebron is now officially shut down for the rest of hte year after aggravating the groin last night.
That's the whole point man! They need to lose. Are you following what is happening around the rest of the NBA? You know the difference between the 5th and 10th pick in value alone? In their last game the pelicans played Ian Clark 31 minutes, Kenny Williams 31, Christian Wood 27 etc. None of these guys are rotation NBA players. You play Machado, Bonga, Wagner till their legs fall off. Instead of Rondo, Stephenson and Lebron 30+. This was, in my opinion, your worst reply on the 10 years we have debated stuff. Like this is bball 101. lol. Ironically, the Lakers got the message today and shut him down because he injured himself.
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Side note for comedy and our distaste for the Lakers. Last night they won for the 3rd time in 4 games all against fellow lottery teams. There are 5 teams between 30 and 35 wins. This stretch theoretically could have moved their pick from the 5th or 6th worst odds to the 10th worst spot (where it is now). Worse for them, last night they played Rondo 35 minutes, Lebron 32, Lance 29, and KCP 33 as 4 of their top 5 players. They played their young guy Wagner 11 minutes.
This is pretty crazy management of their team in my opinion and I am wondering what is going on with it. Despite playing on an injury Lebron's physical therapist should have sidelined him 6 months Lebron is running out an average of 35 minutes a game the last 4 games. is this about him trying to get stats for all times? I haven't really seen something like this in the last few years since teams wised up about minutes management.
I will add, I think there are some negatives of season long tanking or benching healthy players too much early in the season. However, running a 35 year old player that isn't in perfect health into the ground with 35 minutes a game when your team has been eliminated is crazy.
Wagner isn't any good. I mean who else are they supposed to play after all Alex Caruso played 18 minutes and Johnathan Williams played 21. Scott Machado and Isaac Bonga actually played in the game.
With Ball, Hart, and Ingram out for the year and then Bullock, Chandler, and Muscala not available it isn't like the Lakers had many options.
BTW, Lebron is now officially shut down for the rest of hte year after aggravating the groin last night.
That's the whole point man! They need to lose. Are you following what is happening around the rest of the NBA? You know the difference between the 5th and 10th pick in value alone? In their last game the pelicans played Ian Clark 31 minutes, Kenny Williams 31, Christian Wood 27 etc. None of these guys are rotation NBA players. You play Machado, Bonga, Wagner till their legs fall off. Instead of Rondo, Stephenson and Lebron 30+. This was, in my opinion, your worst reply on the 10 years we have debated stuff. Like this is bball 101. lol. Ironically, the Lakers got the message today and shut him down because he injured himself.
They had 9 healthy players last night. They can't just play 5 scrubs 48 minutes. They had to play their vets as there was no other option. And obviously a higher pick has value, but so does finishing on high note. They want to draw free agents there. They need to show they have some idea they know how to win and are a place worth going to. And Walton absolutely needs to finish strong if he wants to get another head coaching job in the NBA.
Ian Clark isn't a rotation player in the league? The same Ian Clark that was a rotation player on the Warriors in a title season (also the year they lost to the Cavs). You seem to have a strange definition of what a rotation player in the league is if Ian Clark isn't one of them. I have no idea if Kenrich Williams is a rotation level player as he is a rookie, but the Pelicans have had him in their rotation for months. Maybe he sticks around, he is a rookie after all. Christian Wood probably not a rotation player, but he did play 13 games for the Bucks this year. The Pelicans, like the Lakers, have a lot of injuries though, you are going to find some deeper bench players playing when you have a bunch of injuries. Oh and the Pelicans won that game in large part because that non-rotation level player Wood was 11 of 16 for 25 points and added 9 rebounds, 3 steals, and a block. They probably lose if Wood doesn't play.
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Is anyone else still trying to comprehend the numbers Harden is putting up?
This season he's almost scored as many points as he did in his entire time in OKC (2656 vs 2795), and he's almost scoring a point per minute (2656 points vs 2712 minutes).
Crazy numbers
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Well, luckily Orlando helped us out and beat Indy tonight. Still likely going to come down to us beating Indy on Friday to secure HCA.
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Well, luckily Orlando helped us out and beat Indy tonight. Still likely going to come down to us beating Indy on Friday to secure HCA.
Relating to Orlando beating Indy and fighting for a playoff spot, is anyone else noticing Johnathon Isaac's improvement.
12/6 with really good defence and good shooting splits of 46/37/75 over the last 2 months
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Is anyone else still trying to comprehend the numbers Harden is putting up?
This season he's almost scored as many points as he did in his entire time in OKC (2656 vs 2795), and he's almost scoring a point per minute (2656 points vs 2712 minutes).
Crazy numbers
That is insane.
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I think you could realistically argue that Harden is having the greatest offensive season in league history (yes even greater than Wilt's 50). Not just the points, but the efficiency, assists, his FTr, etc. And scoring that many on just 24.7 shots, gives him 1.47 pps which is certainly up there among the elite seasons all time (Curry and Durant both had over 30 and a better pps, but Jordan's best he never did, and Wilt's 50 was significantly lower on account of his poor FT shooting). It really is a truly amazing season.
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Kings pick is in the Lotto.
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Side note for comedy and our distaste for the Lakers. Last night they won for the 3rd time in 4 games all against fellow lottery teams. There are 5 teams between 30 and 35 wins. This stretch theoretically could have moved their pick from the 5th or 6th worst odds to the 10th worst spot (where it is now). Worse for them, last night they played Rondo 35 minutes, Lebron 32, Lance 29, and KCP 33 as 4 of their top 5 players. They played their young guy Wagner 11 minutes.
This is pretty crazy management of their team in my opinion and I am wondering what is going on with it. Despite playing on an injury Lebron's physical therapist should have sidelined him 6 months Lebron is running out an average of 35 minutes a game the last 4 games. is this about him trying to get stats for all times? I haven't really seen something like this in the last few years since teams wised up about minutes management.
I will add, I think there are some negatives of season long tanking or benching healthy players too much early in the season. However, running a 35 year old player that isn't in perfect health into the ground with 35 minutes a game when your team has been eliminated is crazy.
Wagner isn't any good. I mean who else are they supposed to play after all Alex Caruso played 18 minutes and Johnathan Williams played 21. Scott Machado and Isaac Bonga actually played in the game.
With Ball, Hart, and Ingram out for the year and then Bullock, Chandler, and Muscala not available it isn't like the Lakers had many options.
BTW, Lebron is now officially shut down for the rest of hte year after aggravating the groin last night.
That's the whole point man! They need to lose. Are you following what is happening around the rest of the NBA? You know the difference between the 5th and 10th pick in value alone? In their last game the pelicans played Ian Clark 31 minutes, Kenny Williams 31, Christian Wood 27 etc. None of these guys are rotation NBA players. You play Machado, Bonga, Wagner till their legs fall off. Instead of Rondo, Stephenson and Lebron 30+. This was, in my opinion, your worst reply on the 10 years we have debated stuff. Like this is bball 101. lol. Ironically, the Lakers got the message today and shut him down because he injured himself.
They had 9 healthy players last night. They can't just play 5 scrubs 48 minutes. They had to play their vets as there was no other option. And obviously a higher pick has value, but so does finishing on high note. They want to draw free agents there. They need to show they have some idea they know how to win and are a place worth going to. And Walton absolutely needs to finish strong if he wants to get another head coaching job in the NBA.
Ian Clark isn't a rotation player in the league? The same Ian Clark that was a rotation player on the Warriors in a title season (also the year they lost to the Cavs). You seem to have a strange definition of what a rotation player in the league is if Ian Clark isn't one of them. I have no idea if Kenrich Williams is a rotation level player as he is a rookie, but the Pelicans have had him in their rotation for months. Maybe he sticks around, he is a rookie after all. Christian Wood probably not a rotation player, but he did play 13 games for the Bucks this year. The Pelicans, like the Lakers, have a lot of injuries though, you are going to find some deeper bench players playing when you have a bunch of injuries. Oh and the Pelicans won that game in large part because that non-rotation level player Wood was 11 of 16 for 25 points and added 9 rebounds, 3 steals, and a block. They probably lose if Wood doesn't play.
As others have said, you pick the weirdest hills to die on. It would be fine and normal if the lakers played rondo, Stephenson and Lebron 20-25 minutes and the other guys I mentioned 25-30 minutes. They would have probably lost the game. As far as ending on a high note, what the literal heck? They obviously don’t feel that cause they Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. down Lebron. Not to mention I doubt kcp and Stephenson are back, so how does that even help them. Your points have been so bad these last two posts I’ve giving you two tommy points for making me chuckle.
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I love trae young. Had terrible game yet won it in OT vs Bucks in end.
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East going to be a lot harder next year!
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From Bleacher Report. Apparently Jerry West and friends had a good chuckle at the ineptitude of the Lakers front office.
"Shortly after the trade deadline, Clippers consultant Jerry West—who spent more than 40 years with the Lakers as a player, coach and executive—got together for dinner with old friends who also had former Laker ties, sources said. He couldn't believe how Zubac fell into his lap. The Clippers, sources said, never even called the Lakers to inquire about Zubac. The Lakers made the offer and the Clippers gladly accepted.
"Sources said those at the dinner table shared a hearty laugh at the Lakers' expense."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828534-jerry-west-clippers-brass-reportedly-laughed-at-lakers-after-ivica-zubac-trade
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From Bleacher Report. Apparently Jerry West and friends had a good chuckle at the ineptitude of the Lakers front office.
"Shortly after the trade deadline, Clippers consultant Jerry West—who spent more than 40 years with the Lakers as a player, coach and executive—got together for dinner with old friends who also had former Laker ties, sources said. He couldn't believe how Zubac fell into his lap. The Clippers, sources said, never even called the Lakers to inquire about Zubac. The Lakers made the offer and the Clippers gladly accepted.
"Sources said those at the dinner table shared a hearty laugh at the Lakers' expense."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828534-jerry-west-clippers-brass-reportedly-laughed-at-lakers-after-ivica-zubac-trade
The Lakers just dumped a lot of talent this year.... LOL ;D
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From Bleacher Report. Apparently Jerry West and friends had a good chuckle at the ineptitude of the Lakers front office.
"Shortly after the trade deadline, Clippers consultant Jerry West—who spent more than 40 years with the Lakers as a player, coach and executive—got together for dinner with old friends who also had former Laker ties, sources said. He couldn't believe how Zubac fell into his lap. The Clippers, sources said, never even called the Lakers to inquire about Zubac. The Lakers made the offer and the Clippers gladly accepted.
"Sources said those at the dinner table shared a hearty laugh at the Lakers' expense."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828534-jerry-west-clippers-brass-reportedly-laughed-at-lakers-after-ivica-zubac-trade
The Lakers just dumped a lot of talent this year.... LOL ;D
Magic is tossing all the baggage , good or bad over board to make room for as many max guys as possible . He has taken LA back to the old days , burn it down and restock with stars quick as possible.
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I love trae young. Had terrible game yet won it in OT vs Bucks in end.
hawks may have just won that trade after all. he is a winner period.
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I love trae young. Had terrible game yet won it in OT vs Bucks in end.
hawks may have just won that trade after all. he is a winner period.
Bit early to call, but to say he's a winner because they beat the Bucks without Giannis, Middleton, Brogdon and Blesdoe by one point is a bit weird.
Plus, the Bucks played Tim Frazier 53 minutes.
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I love trae young. Had terrible game yet won it in OT vs Bucks in end.
hawks may have just won that trade after all. he is a winner period.
Bit early to call, but to say he's a winner because they beat the Bucks without Giannis, Middleton, Brogdon and Blesdoe by one point is a bit weird.
Plus, the Bucks played Tim Frazier 53 minutes.
I bet if Luka Donnic hit that game winner, you'll be calling him a winner. ;)
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I love trae young. Had terrible game yet won it in OT vs Bucks in end.
hawks may have just won that trade after all. he is a winner period.
Bit early to call, but to say he's a winner because they beat the Bucks without Giannis, Middleton, Brogdon and Blesdoe by one point is a bit weird.
Plus, the Bucks played Tim Frazier 53 minutes.
I bet if Luka Donnic hit that game winner, you'll be calling him a winner. ;)
I'd probably be calling him a winner due to him winning the EuroLeague, EuroBasket and the Spanish Cup twice. Or the fact that his team has more wins in a harder conference. Or maybe the much more considerable amount of clutch moments he has this season compared to Young
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I love trae young. Had terrible game yet won it in OT vs Bucks in end.
hawks may have just won that trade after all. he is a winner period.
Bit early to call, but to say he's a winner because they beat the Bucks without Giannis, Middleton, Brogdon and Blesdoe by one point is a bit weird.
Plus, the Bucks played Tim Frazier 53 minutes.
I bet if Luka Donnic hit that game winner, you'll be calling him a winner. ;)
I'd probably be calling him a winner due to him winning the EuroLeague, EuroBasket and the Spanish Cup twice. Or the fact that his team has more wins in a harder conference. Or maybe the much more considerable amount of clutch moments he has this season compared to Young
Despite the fact that Young picked up his game lately. I know people love Luka here but COME ON give Young some credit. Seeesssssh
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I love trae young. Had terrible game yet won it in OT vs Bucks in end.
hawks may have just won that trade after all. he is a winner period.
Bit early to call, but to say he's a winner because they beat the Bucks without Giannis, Middleton, Brogdon and Blesdoe by one point is a bit weird.
Plus, the Bucks played Tim Frazier 53 minutes.
I bet if Luka Donnic hit that game winner, you'll be calling him a winner. ;)
I'd probably be calling him a winner due to him winning the EuroLeague, EuroBasket and the Spanish Cup twice. Or the fact that his team has more wins in a harder conference. Or maybe the much more considerable amount of clutch moments he has this season compared to Young
Despite the fact that Young picked up his game lately. I know people love Luka here but COME ON give Young some credit. Seeesssssh
He certainly has, but I just can't foresee there being any way Atlanta wins the trade, barring the Dallas pick conveys and they pick some All-Star tier talent.
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Kawhi and his wife had a son together in Toronto, so that means the boy is Canadian...
I mean I think it's like 75% chance he takes 190 million from Toronto at this point.
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Kawhi and his wife had a son together in Toronto, so that means the boy is Canadian...
I mean I think it's like 75% chance he takes 190 million from Toronto at this point.
Kawhi's son being born in Canada isn't going to have any bearing on his decision. What about his daughter, who is an American citizen?
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Kawhi and his wife had a son together in Toronto, so that means the boy is Canadian...
I mean I think it's like 75% chance he takes 190 million from Toronto at this point.
Kawhi's son being born in Canada isn't going to have any bearing on his decision. What about his daughter, who is an American citizen?
So you mean... he's going to have to make a tough family decision too?
:P :laugh:
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Kawhi and his wife had a son together in Toronto, so that means the boy is Canadian...
I mean I think it's like 75% chance he takes 190 million from Toronto at this point.
Kawhi's son being born in Canada isn't going to have any bearing on his decision. What about his daughter, who is an American citizen?
Danny should have offered Tatum and Brown and matched salaries got Kawhi and Kyrie together... two legit superstars who can take turns every game and when both are hot the Celtics would be dam near unbeatable. Had the Celtics not made the conference finals last year I think it would have happened but the media Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ed this team up big time pretty much penciling them in the finals
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Kawhi and his wife had a son together in Toronto, so that means the boy is Canadian...
I mean I think it's like 75% chance he takes 190 million from Toronto at this point.
I wouldn't go that far, even though it might be a possibility.
'Nique's parents didn't stay in France cause he was born there.
I'd like him to stay or to go to LAC (my favorite rebuild in the NBA ATM).
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Devin Booker won an NBA game today.
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Devin Booker won an NBA game today.
Somewhere along the way I've come to really dislike Devin Booker.
When your team is this bad, I don't mind a little stat padding but the losses don't seem to be weighing on him at all. That's bothersome.
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Ernie Grunfield has officially been fired...
He will be missed.....
By his division rivals.
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Ernie Grunfield has officially been fired...
He will be missed.....
By his division rivals.
10 years too late. I can't believe he lasted so long while continually building such flawed teams.
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Ernie Grunfield has officially been fired...
He will be missed.....
By his division rivals.
10 years too late. I can't believe he lasted so long while continually building such flawed teams.
Same here.... You would've thought giving Ian Mahimi that contract would've led to insta-fire.
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Ernie Grunfield has officially been fired...
He will be missed.....
By his division rivals.
10 years too late. I can't believe he lasted so long while continually building such flawed teams.
His teams have been mostly mediocre to bad since Riley decided to go to the Heat in the mid 90's. I think he had one good Knick team and one good Bucks team after Riley left New York. His teams in Washington have ranged from the dictionary definition of NBA Mediocrity Purgatory to awful.
He had the following coaches
Pat Riley
Jeff Van Gundy
George Karl
Flip Saunders
but not one title and only 2 Finals losses with Ewing as his star and Riley as his coach.
I have no idea how he has lasted this long.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Definitely not. 38 minutes in a game that was effectively over at 3QT.
Still amazing, but I don't like it.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Eh, I don't really mind stat chasing if you are making a positive impact on the game. Westbrook was like +25, or something like that.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Eh, I don't really mind stat chasing if you are making a positive impact on the game. Westbrook was like +25, or something like that.
And he dedicated the game to Nipsey so there was a lot of passion put into this game.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Eh, I don't really mind stat chasing if you are making a positive impact on the game. Westbrook was like +25, or something like that.
And he dedicated the game to Nipsey so there was a lot of passion put into this game.
Perhaps he should get a 2nd MVP award. It was a triple double after all.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
Amazing accomplishment
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Devin Booker won an NBA game today.
Somewhere along the way I've come to really dislike Devin Booker.
When your team is this bad, I don't mind a little stat padding but the losses don't seem to be weighing on him at all. That's bothersome.
No one can say how he feels. However, it is certainly bad optics to be putting up 50, 60, 70 point games as a young player on a bad team with other very promising young players. It would be different if he was more of a vet.
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Devin Booker won an NBA game today.
Somewhere along the way I've come to really dislike Devin Booker.
When your team is this bad, I don't mind a little stat padding but the losses don't seem to be weighing on him at all. That's bothersome.
No one can say how he feels. However, it is certainly bad optics to be putting up 50, 60, 70 point games as a young player on a bad team with other very promising young players. It would be different if he was more of a vet.
He has clear weaknesses in his game, most notably the defense.
If he comes next year, improves on that end (considerably) and with a true PG by his side and Suns at least look competitive for a change, I might change my stance. But so far he is a defenseless gunner on a max deal, on a team that scares no one. Knicks included.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Definitely not. 38 minutes in a game that was effectively over at 3QT.
Still amazing, but I don't like it.
Very impressive feat from Westbrook. Unfortunately, I'm starting to become numb to the crazy statistics that are being posted throughout the league. This NBA season is a culmination of a 5+ year change in style of play, combined with the rule changes that were implemented prior to the season.
That said, I genuinely enjoy watching the overall product. The league has come a long way from the "iso ball" of the early 2000's. I just hope that the refs are instructed to allow more physicality in the playoffs.
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Stat chasing or not, it's quite the feat to accomplish.
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It was 100% stat-chasing on Westbrook's part, but it takes a special kind of petty to be more concerned with that or his shooting percentage than the fact that it was an homage to an extremely influential, motivational friend who'd been tragically murdered for no reason whatsoever.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Definitely not. 38 minutes in a game that was effectively over at 3QT.
Still amazing, but I don't like it.
Amazing, but I don't like it.
I guess apply that to everything Westbrook does for me.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Gutted is right. Look at the Lakers box score. It looks like a g league team with a couple Big3 guys. The 20 assists is really the only part of it that I’m impressed by. 8-23 from the field and rebound chasing after the game is decided. And then the personal celebration for a personal “achievement.” And then his willingness to cooperate with the media only when it fits his agenda knowing everyone will be saying how great he is. He’s obviously a very selfish player.
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Gutted is right. Look at the Lakers box score. It looks like a g league team with a couple Big3 guys. The 20 assists is really the only part of it that I’m impressed by. 8-23 from the field and rebound chasing after the game is decided. And then the personal celebration for a personal “achievement.” And then his willingness to cooperate with the media only when it fits his agenda knowing everyone will be saying how great he is. He’s obviously a very selfish player.
I remember a game when bird could've had a quadruple double with steals, points, assist, rebounds and they wanted to put him back in to get it, he needed, I think another steal, and Bird says : what's the point the games decided." That's what winners do.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-02-19-sp-456-story.html
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Gutted is right. Look at the Lakers box score. It looks like a g league team with a couple Big3 guys. The 20 assists is really the only part of it that I’m impressed by. 8-23 from the field and rebound chasing after the game is decided. And then the personal celebration for a personal “achievement.” And then his willingness to cooperate with the media only when it fits his agenda knowing everyone will be saying how great he is. He’s obviously a very selfish player.
I remember a game when bird could've had a quadruple double with steals, points, assist, rebounds and they wanted to put him back in to get it, he needed, I think another steal, and Bird says : what's the point the games decided." That's what winners do.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-02-19-sp-456-story.html
Agree 100%. Also when an entire team tries to let a player play for numbers it doesn’t leave a good taste in my mouth, and it’s not really cool for the rest of the team, even if they are on board. There is a culture right now that’s stronger than ever of guys such as Booker, Harden, and Westbrook looking for monster stat lines even more than wins. Of course they’d prefer to do both but it doesn’t always work that way.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D16GfA7WsAAqX-1.jpg:large)
Hezonja: 29-9-5
Lebron: shelved
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Gutted is right. Look at the Lakers box score. It looks like a g league team with a couple Big3 guys. The 20 assists is really the only part of it that I’m impressed by. 8-23 from the field and rebound chasing after the game is decided. And then the personal celebration for a personal “achievement.” And then his willingness to cooperate with the media only when it fits his agenda knowing everyone will be saying how great he is. He’s obviously a very selfish player.
I remember a game when bird could've had a quadruple double with steals, points, assist, rebounds and they wanted to put him back in to get it, he needed, I think another steal, and Bird says : what's the point the games decided." That's what winners do.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-02-19-sp-456-story.html
Wow, I've never seen that story.
Bird is my favourite player of all time, and I'll happily argue him over LeBron (and perhaps MJ) every day of the week
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Sixers blowing this game down the stretch. The third seed is technically still in reach, though I think the four seed provides us the best playoff path.
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Sixers blowing this game down the stretch. The third seed is technically still in reach, though I think the four seed provides us the best playoff path.
Ben Simmons with another big game no show ;D
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Russell Westbrook with a 20 point 20 rebound and 21 assist triple double! Incredible! :o
WOW!!!! :o
Only player in NBA history to have recorded a 20-20-20 game was Wilt back in 1968: 22 pts, 25 rebs, 21 assists
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=20&order_by=pts
Btw, Manute Bol had a 32 points - 29 rebounds - 31 blocks game, but it didn’t happen in the NBA (or even Division-I college basketball). He was playing Division-II NCAA ball at Bridgeport.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatant stat chasing against a gutted Lakers squad in a blowout?
Gutted is right. Look at the Lakers box score. It looks like a g league team with a couple Big3 guys. The 20 assists is really the only part of it that I’m impressed by. 8-23 from the field and rebound chasing after the game is decided. And then the personal celebration for a personal “achievement.” And then his willingness to cooperate with the media only when it fits his agenda knowing everyone will be saying how great he is. He’s obviously a very selfish player.
I remember a game when bird could've had a quadruple double with steals, points, assist, rebounds and they wanted to put him back in to get it, he needed, I think another steal, and Bird says : what's the point the games decided." That's what winners do.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-02-19-sp-456-story.html
Wow, I've never seen that story.
Bird is my favourite player of all time, and I'll happily argue him over LeBron (and perhaps MJ) every day of the week
No one ever saw the game like Larry bird.
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Sixers blowing this game down the stretch. The third seed is technically still in reach, though I think the four seed provides us the best playoff path.
They have two more games against the Bulls... nuff said'
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Miami with another loss. It would be nice if the Celtics two wins late in the season kept Wade out of the playoffs in his final year. That would make me feel really happy😃
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We really need the Pelicans to win tonight.
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We really need the Pelicans to win tonight.
Yup, and if they clinch #4 on Sunday, it would be great for the C’s to lose to WAS in the last game.
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If this Memphis pick conveys, the pipeline for other team’s potential lottery picks has totally dried up correct?
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If this Memphis pick conveys, the pipeline for other team’s potential lottery picks has totally dried up correct?
Yep that's the end of it.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
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If this Memphis pick conveys, the pipeline for other team’s potential lottery picks has totally dried up correct?
Yep that's the end of it.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
Cool link. Thanks
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Omg Randle is killing us down the stretch. He missed three out of four free throws in the last minute!
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D16GfA7WsAAqX-1.jpg:large)
Hezonja: 29-9-5
Lebron: shelved
Hezonja 16-16-11
Lebron: shelved
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If the Pacers lose this on to The Nets does Brad rest the starters?
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Mavs!
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Mavs!
Go Dallas! I don't want that pick this year! lol
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What happened to Detroit? They were looking really good and now they are doing there best to fall out of the playoffs....
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Mavs and Griz both doing everything they can do to lose...
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Devin Harris baby!
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Almost there, Dallas! Knock down your free throws and this game is yours!
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Justin holiday single handily trying to ruin the Celtics draft pick
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Dallas wins! Thanks you!!
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Mavs win!!!
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Dallas wins! Thanks you!!
Haha TP
Now to the Celtics
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Two games left at Detroit and against GS. Should be two losses with Detroit fighting for the playoffs and GS trying to hold off Denver and have HCA against Toronto; however, GS could be resting their main guys by that time. Will be interesting to see how this plays out down the stretch. Hopefully Washington wins tonight and then we can largely hold the fate of the pick in our hands by resting our guys in Washington on Tuesday.
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Two games left at Detroit and against GS. Should be two losses with Detroit fighting for the playoffs and GS trying to hold off Denver and have HCA against Toronto; however, GS could be resting their main guys by that time. Will be interesting to see how this plays out down the stretch. Hopefully Washington wins tonight and then we can largely hold the fate of the pick in our hands by resting our guys in Washington on Tuesday.
Could do without Delon Wright looking like the PG of the future with 3 straight triple doubles
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Memphis will finish 9th. Contrary to tgose who cannot understand that the pick pick is much much better for boston if it parlays this season.
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Washington up 2 with 50 seconds left to go! Hold on, Wiz!
EDIT: And they lose...
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D16GfA7WsAAqX-1.jpg:large)
Hezonja: 29-9-5
Lebron: shelved
Hezonja 16-16-11
Lebron: shelved
Hezonja: 30-6-5, dagger
Lebron: shelved
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Klutch has taught him well. SMH
https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1115711921666310144
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Pistons, with the Playoffs on the line, crapping their pants against Memphis down 20 at half time.
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Pistons, with the Playoffs on the line, crapping their pants against Memphis down 20 at half time.
within 5
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Pistons, with the Playoffs on the line, crapping their pants against Memphis down 20 at half time.
within 5
Das it
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Pistons down 3!
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Pistons down 3!
and we are down 6.....i mean up 6 lol! get rj out!
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Up by 2 now!
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Klutch has taught him well. SMH
https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1115711921666310144
That is awesome.
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Deeeetriottttttt!
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With the Pistons win, Miami officially eliminated from the playoffs. Adios D-Wade!
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With the Pistons win, Miami officially eliminated from the playoffs. Adios D-Wade!
Beautiful!
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With the Pistons win, Miami officially eliminated from the playoffs. Adios D-Wade!
Beautiful!
the cherry on top of the Magic quit sundae
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Also, should we assume the NBA will release playoff schedules and times tomorrow night or sometime Thursday? Since it's Patriots Day weekend I've got some plans but wanted to know soon when Game 1 would be to try and schedule around that lol. I assume it'll be sometime Sunday since Saturday is Bruins, Game 2 @TD Garden. But knowing when on Sunday (afternoon or evening) would be ideal too.
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Also, should we assume the NBA will release playoff schedules and times tomorrow night or sometime Thursday? Since it's Patriots Day weekend I've got some plans but wanted to know soon when Game 1 would be to try and schedule around that lol. I assume it'll be sometime Sunday since Saturday is Bruins, Game 2 @TD Garden. But knowing when on Sunday (afternoon or evening) would be ideal too.
Last year, with the Bruins opening up on Saturday, Boston was given the early Sunday game. I think we should expect the same with the networks hoping to put Giannis, Embiid, Durant/Curry, Harden and other teams with huge superstars on their team, getting the night games on Saturday and Sunday.
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Wall saying in an interview he might not return to play next year due to his Achilles tear. That would mean that when he does return to Washington in 2020-21, he will be a 30 year old PG who's game is predicated on his speed and explosion that hasn't played NBA basketball in almost two calendar years.
Can we label Wall's $170 million contract the official worst current contract in the NBA and maybe the worst in league history, or do we need to wait?
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Wall saying in an interview he might not return to play next year due to his Achilles tear. That would mean that when he does return to Washington in 2020-21, he will be a 30 year old PG who's game is predicated on his speed and explosion that hasn't played NBA basketball in almost two calendar years.
Can we label Wall's $170 million contract the official worst current contract in the NBA and maybe the worst in league history, or do we need to wait?
I thought Mike Conley was bad back then, but I think Wall may take the cake.
Now that's the definition of a brinks truck gone wrong.
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Wall saying in an interview he might not return to play next year due to his Achilles tear. That would mean that when he does return to Washington in 2020-21, he will be a 30 year old PG who's game is predicated on his speed and explosion that hasn't played NBA basketball in almost two calendar years.
Can we label Wall's $170 million contract the official worst current contract in the NBA and maybe the worst in league history, or do we need to wait?
Arenas 2.0
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Wall saying in an interview he might not return to play next year due to his Achilles tear. That would mean that when he does return to Washington in 2020-21, he will be a 30 year old PG who's game is predicated on his speed and explosion that hasn't played NBA basketball in almost two calendar years.
Can we label Wall's $170 million contract the official worst current contract in the NBA and maybe the worst in league history, or do we need to wait?
Arenas 2.0
Ha...Same team. Lol.
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Also, should we assume the NBA will release playoff schedules and times tomorrow night or sometime Thursday? Since it's Patriots Day weekend I've got some plans but wanted to know soon when Game 1 would be to try and schedule around that lol. I assume it'll be sometime Sunday since Saturday is Bruins, Game 2 @TD Garden. But knowing when on Sunday (afternoon or evening) would be ideal too.
Last year, with the Bruins opening up on Saturday, Boston was given the early Sunday game. I think we should expect the same with the networks hoping to put Giannis, Embiid, Durant/Curry, Harden and other teams with huge superstars on their team, getting the night games on Saturday and Sunday.
There's a chance the C's get an early start Saturday game. It's been a couple of years ('16 was the last time it happened) but they used to do a 12:30pm/3:30pm/7pm/9:30pm Saturday schedule to start the playoffs, the last couple of years it's been 3pm/5:30pm/8pm/10:30pm on Saturday though, but then again ESPN's own website currently lists NBA games for 12:30pm/3pm/5:30pm/8:30pm for this Saturday. (http://www.espn.com/watch/schedule?startDate=20190413&type=upcoming) It's an 8pm start for the Bruins, so the C's could definitely fit in at 12:30, apparently it only takes a little more than 2 hours to change the court over. (https://wblm.com/watch-the-td-garden-changeover-from-hockey-to-basketball-in-the-same-day/)
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Wow! Paul George is clutch and may have just shot Houston out of the 2 seed!
God, I'd love to see a first round matchup with OKC against either Houston or GS.
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Wow! Paul George is clutch and may have just shot Houston out of the 2 seed!
God, I'd love to see a first round matchup with OKC against either Houston or GS.
is a matchup against GSW even possible at this point? if portland wins tonight they will have a potential for the 3rd seed therefore making sure they try against sac tomorrow which could give us the 12th pick i believe, and first rd matchup could actually be okc/port
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Wall saying in an interview he might not return to play next year due to his Achilles tear. That would mean that when he does return to Washington in 2020-21, he will be a 30 year old PG who's game is predicated on his speed and explosion that hasn't played NBA basketball in almost two calendar years.
Can we label Wall's $170 million contract the official worst current contract in the NBA and maybe the worst in league history, or do we need to wait?
I feel like it would be pretty bad for his career if he can’t come back at all next year. Like he needs to come back for 10-15 games if it is medically possible just to get the mental part back a little
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Also, should we assume the NBA will release playoff schedules and times tomorrow night or sometime Thursday? Since it's Patriots Day weekend I've got some plans but wanted to know soon when Game 1 would be to try and schedule around that lol. I assume it'll be sometime Sunday since Saturday is Bruins, Game 2 @TD Garden. But knowing when on Sunday (afternoon or evening) would be ideal too.
Last year, with the Bruins opening up on Saturday, Boston was given the early Sunday game. I think we should expect the same with the networks hoping to put Giannis, Embiid, Durant/Curry, Harden and other teams with huge superstars on their team, getting the night games on Saturday and Sunday.
There's a chance the C's get an early start Saturday game. It's been a couple of years ('16 was the last time it happened) but they used to do a 12:30pm/3:30pm/7pm/9:30pm Saturday schedule to start the playoffs, the last couple of years it's been 3pm/5:30pm/8pm/10:30pm on Saturday though, but then again ESPN's own website currently lists NBA games for 12:30pm/3:30pm/7pm/8:30pm for this Saturday. (http://www.espn.com/watch/schedule?startDate=20190413&type=upcoming) It's an 8pm start for the Bruins, so the C's could definitely fit in at 12:30, apparently it only takes a little more than 2 hours to change the court over. (https://wblm.com/watch-the-td-garden-changeover-from-hockey-to-basketball-in-the-same-day/)
Yeah I agree with you both. It could be like last year where Bruins play 8 PM Saturday, then Celtics play like 1 PM on Sunday. OR the C's play the early game on Saturday. I guess we'll find out tonight or tomorrow?
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Wow, Jamal Crawford with 51 points. He is 39 years old. That is impressive and could only happen in today's No Defense NBA.
Crawford is only averaging 7.9ppg on the season.
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Wall saying in an interview he might not return to play next year due to his Achilles tear. That would mean that when he does return to Washington in 2020-21, he will be a 30 year old PG who's game is predicated on his speed and explosion that hasn't played NBA basketball in almost two calendar years.
Can we label Wall's $170 million contract the official worst current contract in the NBA and maybe the worst in league history, or do we need to wait?
Terry would have been a good for them at the deadline
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Wall saying in an interview he might not return to play next year due to his Achilles tear. That would mean that when he does return to Washington in 2020-21, he will be a 30 year old PG who's game is predicated on his speed and explosion that hasn't played NBA basketball in almost two calendar years.
Can we label Wall's $170 million contract the official worst current contract in the NBA and maybe the worst in league history, or do we need to wait?
I feel like it would be pretty bad for his career if he can’t come back at all next year. Like he needs to come back for 10-15 games if it is medically possible just to get the mental part back a little
His jumper needs to be priority #1 while he is rehabbing. I can only imagine how things will look if he doesn't regain his athleticism. Hopefully he can reinvent himself during the time away.