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Offline rondohondo

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Say we can trade for Butler on draft night

Bos sends : AB, Crowder , #3,Dallas pick
Chi sends : Butler

Leaves us enough cap to sign Durant to a max and Horford for a close to max deal.

Leaves us with

IT                  / Rozier
Butler           / Smart
KD                / Vet
KO               / Mickey
Horford         / Vet


to me that roster is better than anything OKC can put together this year .

Re: Wouldn't Butler , KD, IT trio trump anything OKC can put together?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2016, 10:41:05 AM »

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yea basically DA would have to do the same as he did with KG in 2006... If he made a move to get say Butler or even Harden that would entice Durant to come to Boston... still saying it isa bit far fetched but nevertheless a possibility

Re: Wouldn't Butler , KD, IT trio trump anything OKC can put together?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2016, 10:53:28 AM »

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Say we can trade for Butler on draft night

Bos sends : AB, Crowder , #3,Dallas pick
Chi sends : Butler

Leaves us enough cap to sign Durant to a max and Horford for a close to max deal.

Leaves us with

IT                  / Rozier
Butler           / Smart
KD                / Vet
KO               / Mickey
Horford         / Vet


to me that roster is better than anything OKC can put together this year .

That is an absolute overpay for Butler, and I wouldn't even do that without a consent agreement by Durant to come over.

And even then, AB/Crowder would be the perfect players to put next to Durant. Bradley is one of the best at guarding Curry.
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Re: Wouldn't Butler , KD, IT trio trump anything OKC can put together?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2016, 10:58:00 AM »

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Say we can trade for Butler on draft night

Bos sends : AB, Crowder , #3,Dallas pick
Chi sends : Butler

Leaves us enough cap to sign Durant to a max and Horford for a close to max deal.

Leaves us with

IT                  / Rozier
Butler           / Smart
KD                / Vet
KO               / Mickey
Horford         / Vet


to me that roster is better than anything OKC can put together this year .

That is an absolute overpay for Butler, and I wouldn't even do that without a consent agreement by Durant to come over.

And even then, AB/Crowder would be the perfect players to put next to Durant. Bradley is one of the best at guarding Curry.

well it may be an overpay , but well worth it if it gets KD here .

Butler is a 20/5/5 player with all NBA defense . He would be a perfect 2nd option to Durant, and IT would be # 3 option with Horford taking care of business down low .

Plus you still have Smart as an elite defender off the bench , and Rozier who can guard quicker PG's .

Would have to add some shooting on the wing off the bench , and a vet big man .


Re: Wouldn't Butler , KD, IT trio trump anything OKC can put together?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2016, 10:58:55 AM »

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I'll be honest, while I think #3 + Smart might be an overpay, if through some back channels Ainge could find out trading for Butler would get us KD, I'd pull the trigger.

And truthfully, I like the quartet of Thomas - Bradley - Butler - Durant more than if Smart replaced Bradley in that trio.  Same elite defense, better offense.  Throw Crowder into that mix and you really have a top flight perimeter attack on both ends of the court.

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I'll be honest, while I think #3 + Smart might be an overpay, if through some back channels Ainge could find out trading for Butler would get us KD, I'd pull the trigger.

And truthfully, I like the quartet of Thomas - Bradley - Butler - Durant more than if Smart replaced Bradley in that trio.  Same elite defense, better offense.  Throw Crowder into that mix and you really have a top flight perimeter attack on both ends of the court.

The only problem with that is we wouldn't have enough cap space to sign a legit big man . All we have at the moment is KO and Mickey.

If you combine AB and Crowder's salary it comes close to matching Butler's contract leaving us with enough cap space to sign a Horford/ Howard / Pau Gasol type
You have to sign a 2 way big man like Horford if you want Durant IMO .

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2016, 11:03:09 AM »

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Is it really worth Butler's massive contract when you have Bradley who is a defensive first teamer making 8million the next 2 years? I certainly don't think so.

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Say we can trade for Butler on draft night

Bos sends : AB, Crowder , #3,Dallas pick
Chi sends : Butler

Leaves us enough cap to sign Durant to a max and Horford for a close to max deal.

Leaves us with

IT                  / Rozier
Butler           / Smart
KD                / Vet
KO               / Mickey
Horford         / Vet


to me that roster is better than anything OKC can put together this year .

That is an absolute overpay for Butler, and I wouldn't even do that without a consent agreement by Durant to come over.

And even then, AB/Crowder would be the perfect players to put next to Durant. Bradley is one of the best at guarding Curry.

well it may be an overpay , but well worth it if it gets KD here .

Butler is a 20/5/5 player with all NBA defense . He would be a perfect 2nd option to Durant, and IT would be # 3 option with Horford taking care of business down low .

Plus you still have Smart as an elite defender off the bench , and Rozier who can guard quicker PG's .

Would have to add some shooting on the wing off the bench , and a vet big man .

Butler isn't worth Crowder, Bradley, and our #3. And if I'm being honest, I think Crowder is just as good, if not better than Butler in lieu of his 3 pt shooting, and being more of a leader on and off the court than Butler.

I'm also not convinced Butler is that great of a player as everyone makes him out to be. 20/5/5, and at what cost? Iffy shot selection, leadership issues, mental make up, and the possibility that he may be breaking down due to the overworking of Thibbs tutelage.
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Re: Wouldn't Butler , KD, IT trio trump anything OKC can put together?
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Is it really worth Butler's massive contract when you have Bradley who is a defensive first teamer making 8million the next 2 years? I certainly don't think so.

Butler isn't going to look like a massive contract when the cap goes up the next few years , he is only making  16 mil . Butler can guard the 2/3 at an elite level . Rozier and Smart can guard PG's off the bench .

Butler is a 2 time allstar , 3 time all nba defense , and most improved player award . He was in the running for MVP before he went down half way through the season .

He is clearly better than Bradley .

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 11:12:34 AM »

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Is it really worth Butler's massive contract when you have Bradley who is a defensive first teamer making 8million the next 2 years? I certainly don't think so.

Butler isn't going to look like a massive contract when the cap goes up the next few years , he is only making  16 mil . Butler can guard the 2/3 at an elite level . Rozier and Smart can guard PG's off the bench .

Butler is a 2 time allstar , 3 time all nba defense , and most improved player award . He was in the running for MVP before he went down half way through the season .

He is clearly better than Bradley .

Is he honestly really? So he's that much better, that he's worth Crowder, Bradley, and the highest pick we've had in years?
 
I would take AB/Crowder over Butler any time of the day, and I hope Durant feels the same way, because AB/Crowder could help us utilize so many more lineups small ball wise, which would be perfect in defending, and attacking the GSW small ball death line up.
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Is it really worth Butler's massive contract when you have Bradley who is a defensive first teamer making 8million the next 2 years? I certainly don't think so.

Butler's contract is not massive. It's much larger than AB's, but after this summer, he'll be underpaid.
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Trade the #3 pick for Okafor and then flip him and filler to Chicago for Butler.
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Trade the #3 pick for Okafor and then flip him and filler to Chicago for Butler.

filler would have to be AB and Crowder if we want to make the necessary move of signing an all-star level big man which would be imperative if we want to lure Durant here .

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I'll be honest, while I think #3 + Smart might be an overpay, if through some back channels Ainge could find out trading for Butler would get us KD, I'd pull the trigger.

And truthfully, I like the quartet of Thomas - Bradley - Butler - Durant more than if Smart replaced Bradley in that trio.  Same elite defense, better offense.  Throw Crowder into that mix and you really have a top flight perimeter attack on both ends of the court.

The only problem with that is we wouldn't have enough cap space to sign a legit big man . All we have at the moment is KO and Mickey.

If you combine AB and Crowder's salary it comes close to matching Butler's contract leaving us with enough cap space to sign a Horford/ Howard / Pau Gasol type
You have to sign a 2 way big man like Horford if you want Durant IMO .

If it came down to it, I'd package Crowder + KO and some of our young players + other picks this year for a big man via trade.  You wouldn't get an elite big, but hopefully a solid defensive presence that can get offensive rebounds and at least contribute a little on offense.

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