If Danny and Stevens is that high on Bamba(i'm very high on him)
Then i am in for Brown + picks for Bamba
I'm scared to have Jeff Green 2.0 as our future max star, just too inconsistent
On the other hand Wingspan won't betray you
Brown is no Jeff Green
you guys serious?
But he does have some Antoine Walker in his blood. Should be taking it to basket/mid range 70 percent of the time and shooting the three 30 percent....but instead it is flipped. And he is not a pure shooter
I'm serious
He got hot one game and cold another, just like Jeff Green
When he is hot he plays like star-superstar, but when cold he can't really do anything..
If our goal is contending year in and year out we will guys that can perform night in and night out
He's a raw 21 year old.
Most of those guys are inconsistent. That doesn't mean he's Jeff green 2.0. Jayson Tatum was also inconsistent. Bad game 6, great game 7. Should we pencil him in as Jeff Green 2.0?
He's young and he's raw and improving at a torrid pace(Jeff green literally never improved his entire career) he's already a better defender and 3 point shooter than green ever was.
This comparison is almost as pea brained as the criticism someone made yesterday that's brown had interests outside of basketball. Just absurd.
The comparison of Brown and Green is based mostly on their very similar stat lines.
Here are year 1 per 36
Player A - 13.8 p, 5.9 r, 1.7 a, 0.9 s, 0.5 b, 1.8 t, 3.8 f
Player B - 13.4 p, 6.1 r, 1.9 a, 0.7 s, 0.8 b, 2.5 t, 3.2 f
Here are year 2 per 36
Player A - 17.0 p, 5.8 r, 1.9 a, 1.2 s, 0.4 b, 2.1 t, 3.0 f
Player B - 16.2 p, 6.5 r, 1.9 a, 1.0 s, 0.4 b, 2.2 t, 2.5 f
They had similar roles though Green played more minutes per game each season. Brown has been a slightly more efficient shooter overall though is worse from the line and didn't get to the line at the same rate.
Browns a better shooter and better defender. He's also younger.
That also makes the comp even worse. Young Jeff Green was really promising. The fact that he literally never improved or added a single thing to his game and had to sit out a season due to a horrifying medical situation makes the comparison useless.
Brown has already improved more that green did his entire career. He's also far better suited to exist in the NBA even if he never develops a handle, post moves, go-to moves in general or, any ability to finish. Because he can be a 3-D guy who is a nightmare in transition and drives closeouts. Green never learned how to shoot and never seemed to give enough of a **** to defend.
I'd still take 21 year old Jeff green because he was a guy who could have been really ****ing good. It didn't work out because it turned out Jeff Green had a really bad mental makeup. I don't think that's the case with jaylen brown as many people have waxed poetic about his work ethic and given his progression from college to rookie year to this year I'd say the proof is in the pudding.
The Jeff Green comp is lazy and bad.
The thing is, statistically they improved at around the same level. Now sure, Green never went past that point, but he absolutely improved from year 1 to year 2. And, Brown is only a slightly better shooter than Green was. For example, in year 2, Green shot 38.9% from 3 as compared to Browns 39.5%. Brown was better from 2 basically everywhere, but is a much worse foul shooter than Green was. Green was forced to defend PF's because Durant wouldn't do it, but Green was even then a pretty solid defender (especially when he was guarding the SF position). Brown might be better at this point (though he plays on a much better defensive team, so those things are hard to judge, especially when the counting stats are nearly identical), but I don't think the gap is nearly as large as it is made out to be in this debate.
I think we all expect Brown to continue to improve, but I'm sure the Thunder were expecting Green to continue to improve and the reality is he didn't. In fact, year 2 was by far Green's best season and the one in which he set his career highs in ppg, rpg, apg, and 3P%. And Green was only 22 that season (about a year older than Brown). There are no guarantees in these things, but the stat lines are eerily similar to this point from players with very similar team roles. Let's hope Brown keeps that upward trajectory, but let's not pretend year 2 might not end up being his best season. You just don't know in these things.