I feel like i am being pretty clear so not sure what is going on. The user Greece than said that any second rounder that sticks in the league for 3 years is a good pick. I fully disagree with that statement and think that you expect a guy you draft very early in the second round (top 10 picks) to stick around for 3 years between the pro club and dleague. Do you disagree with this?
By that metric, it's pretty much a coin flip. About 50% of the guys in the 31-40 range ever play 2000 minutes (total) in their NBA career. Total washouts. So, Joe's contribution last year is above average already, even for the early 2nd round. Nobody is expecting or not expecting that, because it's not a metric anyone uses. But, if the guy is around after 3 years and played 1000+ minutes last year, you're at least a little ahead.
I then pointed out that in this particular draft 8 of the 11 guys picked at the top of the second round were still in the league last year (3rd year). Do you disagree with this?
Out of the 14 other guys picked 26-40 in 2014, only 6 of them have played more NBA minutes than Joe Harris, and two of those guys played for Philadelphia which had by far the worst roster in the league. About half of them have played themselves out of the league. Your 8 of 11 is meaningless because there is no value in being Glen Robinson III or Johnny O'Bryant over Joe Harris, and there are numerous worst cases picked BEFORE him. Only 2 out of 14 of those guys played any useful minutes last year like Harris did.
I then pointed out there is a huge difference between guys that are picked 30-40 compared to guys going 50-60. Do you disagree with this?
Of course not. Everyone agrees with that.
You have already said "Joe Harris is not real special for a 33rd pick" so it seems you have agreed with me but keep arguing about stuff and I honestly can't tell what point you are arguing.
Nope, I don't agree with your premise, which is that Joe Harris wasn't a "good" pick, and I don't know why you started a debate out of nothing in the first place. See above.