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Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #570 on: January 16, 2019, 11:56:52 PM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust

Yeah, just average more assists per game than anybody in NBA history.  It's that easy, guys.

your sarcasm means zero....

this is no ordinary crew of players in case you forgot

And Stockton/Malone was?

Come on, man.

Again like I said above

he basically had one player to feed

Kyrie has a buffet of top calibre talent surrounding him

10 assist a game minimum is mandatory
Ridiculous
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Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #571 on: January 16, 2019, 11:58:46 PM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust


All Kyrie has to do is average more assists per game over the course of a season than Stockton ever did? Seems reasonable

Right because Stockton had Tatum, Brown, Hayward to work with

Stockton had one guy to go to basically
Yeah that guy just happens to be a top 5 scorer of all time, and they were the most unstoppable pick and roll duo ever.

Why didn’t Tony Parker average 15APG? Why didn’t Kobe? Why didn’t LeBron in Miami? Why doesn’t Curry?

Because even if you’re surrounded by insane talent, 15APG is video game level

Tony Parker WAS one of the go to scorers

KOBE was on hero mode 24/7

Lebron was not a pg but did average a high amount of assist....  he deferred a ton and put on the turbo when required

IRVING is the pg of this team. He is surrounded by 4 all star calibre player in Horford, Hayward, Tatum, Brown....  plus other capable scorers like Morris

YES he should average at least 10 assists per game

stop making excuses

Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #572 on: January 17, 2019, 12:00:00 AM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust

Yeah, just average more assists per game than anybody in NBA history.  It's that easy, guys.

your sarcasm means zero....

this is no ordinary crew of players in case you forgot

And Stockton/Malone was?

Come on, man.

Again like I said above

he basically had one player to feed

Kyrie has a buffet of top calibre talent surrounding him

10 assist a game minimum is mandatory
Ridiculous

No its not

tonight we won because he passed the ball instead of going hero mode (press panic button)

HE needs to keep passing the ball ....... his mentality needs to change to pass 1st /score 2nd

except in dire situation

he juggled it perfectly tonight

Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #573 on: January 17, 2019, 12:02:08 AM »

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If Kyrie averaged 15 assists, he’d be accused of holding the ball too much.


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Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #574 on: January 17, 2019, 12:03:30 AM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust

Yeah, just average more assists per game than anybody in NBA history.  It's that easy, guys.

your sarcasm means zero....

this is no ordinary crew of players in case you forgot

And Stockton/Malone was?

Come on, man.

Again like I said above

he basically had one player to feed

Kyrie has a buffet of top calibre talent surrounding him

10 assist a game minimum is mandatory
You're just being silly.  No chance Kyrie gets anywhere near 10 assists per game.  He's a shoot first player and will remain so.  He's a great shooter.  He's not a great passer.   As for the talent around him, it isn't nearly as top caliber as you make out. 

Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #575 on: January 17, 2019, 12:04:59 AM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust


All Kyrie has to do is average more assists per game over the course of a season than Stockton ever did? Seems reasonable

Right because Stockton had Tatum, Brown, Hayward to work with

Stockton had one guy to go to basically
Yeah that guy just happens to be a top 5 scorer of all time, and they were the most unstoppable pick and roll duo ever.

Why didn’t Tony Parker average 15APG? Why didn’t Kobe? Why didn’t LeBron in Miami? Why doesn’t Curry?

Because even if you’re surrounded by insane talent, 15APG is video game level

Tony Parker WAS one of the go to scorers

KOBE was on hero mode 24/7

Lebron was not a pg but did average a high amount of assist....  he deferred a ton and put on the turbo when required

IRVING is the pg of this team. He is surrounded by 4 all star calibre player in Horford, Hayward, Tatum, Brown....  plus other capable scorers like Morris

YES he should average at least 10 assists per game

stop making excuses
Kyrie is far and away our best scorer. Nobody is close to him at the moment. Why do you want him to defer to lesser talent??

None of the guys you listed have been playing at an All-Star level this season.
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Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #576 on: January 17, 2019, 12:05:13 AM »

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If Kyrie averaged 15 assists, he’d be accused of holding the ball too much.
Statpadding!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
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C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #577 on: January 17, 2019, 12:05:36 AM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust

Yeah, just average more assists per game than anybody in NBA history.  It's that easy, guys.

your sarcasm means zero....

this is no ordinary crew of players in case you forgot

And Stockton/Malone was?

Come on, man.

Again like I said above

he basically had one player to feed

Kyrie has a buffet of top calibre talent surrounding him

10 assist a game minimum is mandatory
Ridiculous

No its not

tonight we won because he passed the ball instead of going hero mode (press panic button)

HE needs to keep passing the ball ....... his mentality needs to change to pass 1st /score 2nd

except in dire situation

he juggled it perfectly tonight

****, even rondo when he was assist hunting he had games under 10 assists. This ridiculousness is bordering Jordan Mickey territory.

Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #578 on: January 17, 2019, 12:05:59 AM »

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If Kyrie averaged 15 assists, he’d be accused of holding the ball too much.

Did he hold the ball too much tonight?

look it is ideal he can avg 15 per game

but he should be doing at least 10 a game....not 5 or 6 as he is currently averaging

This whole the rest of the guys better step up is crazy

Irving needs to spread the wealth

He can attract double teams ....  he needs to use this to his adv

and then feed the other guys sweet spot.....get their games going also

If he want to become a better leader ...this is what it will take on this squad


Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #579 on: January 17, 2019, 12:07:36 AM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust


All Kyrie has to do is average more assists per game over the course of a season than Stockton ever did? Seems reasonable

Right because Stockton had Tatum, Brown, Hayward to work with

Stockton had one guy to go to basically
Yeah that guy just happens to be a top 5 scorer of all time, and they were the most unstoppable pick and roll duo ever.

Why didn’t Tony Parker average 15APG? Why didn’t Kobe? Why didn’t LeBron in Miami? Why doesn’t Curry?

Because even if you’re surrounded by insane talent, 15APG is video game level

Tony Parker WAS one of the go to scorers

KOBE was on hero mode 24/7

Lebron was not a pg but did average a high amount of assist....  he deferred a ton and put on the turbo when required

IRVING is the pg of this team. He is surrounded by 4 all star calibre player in Horford, Hayward, Tatum, Brown....  plus other capable scorers like Morris

YES he should average at least 10 assists per game

stop making excuses
Kyrie is far and away our best scorer. Nobody is close to him at the moment. Why do you want him to defer to lesser talent??

None of the guys you listed have been playing at an All-Star level this season.

the way you limit Kyrie capability is insulting to his growth and this teams path to success

Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #580 on: January 17, 2019, 12:10:07 AM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust


All Kyrie has to do is average more assists per game over the course of a season than Stockton ever did? Seems reasonable

Right because Stockton had Tatum, Brown, Hayward to work with

Stockton had one guy to go to basically
Yeah that guy just happens to be a top 5 scorer of all time, and they were the most unstoppable pick and roll duo ever.

Why didn’t Tony Parker average 15APG? Why didn’t Kobe? Why didn’t LeBron in Miami? Why doesn’t Curry?

Because even if you’re surrounded by insane talent, 15APG is video game level

Tony Parker WAS one of the go to scorers

KOBE was on hero mode 24/7

Lebron was not a pg but did average a high amount of assist....  he deferred a ton and put on the turbo when required

IRVING is the pg of this team. He is surrounded by 4 all star calibre player in Horford, Hayward, Tatum, Brown....  plus other capable scorers like Morris

YES he should average at least 10 assists per game

stop making excuses
Kyrie is far and away our best scorer. Nobody is close to him at the moment. Why do you want him to defer to lesser talent??

None of the guys you listed have been playing at an All-Star level this season.

the way you limit Kyrie capability is insulting to his growth and this teams path to success
LOL. I’m one of his biggest fans on the board, so it’s pretty hilarious for you to give me that.

It’s just being realistic with his talents. He’s one of the most skilled scorers in the whole league, as he can score with efficiency and ease from every level. He’s a good passer, but with the inconsistency of those around him I’d rather he shoot primarily.

That being said, when he uses his threat of scoring to create for others WHILE putting it in the hoop he is at his best
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #581 on: January 17, 2019, 12:10:46 AM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust

Yeah, just average more assists per game than anybody in NBA history.  It's that easy, guys.

your sarcasm means zero....

this is no ordinary crew of players in case you forgot

And Stockton/Malone was?

Come on, man.

Again like I said above

he basically had one player to feed

Kyrie has a buffet of top calibre talent surrounding him

10 assist a game minimum is mandatory
You're just being silly.  No chance Kyrie gets anywhere near 10 assists per game.  He's a shoot first player and will remain so.  He's a great shooter.  He's not a great passer.   As for the talent around him, it isn't nearly as top caliber as you make out.

just think about it

what has Kyrie score 1st...done thus far?

stop trying to shake everyone else head and tell them to wake up

Kyrie can sacrifice scoring and help the others/help the team

I believe him that he won't publicly throw his teammates under the bus moving fwd

He can also change some of his ways on the court


Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #582 on: January 17, 2019, 12:12:46 AM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust


All Kyrie has to do is average more assists per game over the course of a season than Stockton ever did? Seems reasonable

Right because Stockton had Tatum, Brown, Hayward to work with

Stockton had one guy to go to basically
Yeah that guy just happens to be a top 5 scorer of all time, and they were the most unstoppable pick and roll duo ever.

Why didn’t Tony Parker average 15APG? Why didn’t Kobe? Why didn’t LeBron in Miami? Why doesn’t Curry?

Because even if you’re surrounded by insane talent, 15APG is video game level

Tony Parker WAS one of the go to scorers

KOBE was on hero mode 24/7

Lebron was not a pg but did average a high amount of assist....  he deferred a ton and put on the turbo when required

IRVING is the pg of this team. He is surrounded by 4 all star calibre player in Horford, Hayward, Tatum, Brown....  plus other capable scorers like Morris

YES he should average at least 10 assists per game

stop making excuses
Kyrie is far and away our best scorer. Nobody is close to him at the moment. Why do you want him to defer to lesser talent??

None of the guys you listed have been playing at an All-Star level this season.

the way you limit Kyrie capability is insulting to his growth and this teams path to success
LOL. I’m one of his biggest fans on the board, so it’s pretty hilarious for you to give me that.

It’s just being realistic with his talents. He’s one of the most skilled scorers in the whole league, as he can score with efficiency and ease from every level. He’s a good passer, but with the inconsistency of those around him I’d rather he shoot primarily.

That being said, when he uses his threat of scoring to create for others WHILE putting it in the hoop he is at his best

Well what the heck was the point of arguing with me for the last 5 min??

Exactly

Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #583 on: January 17, 2019, 12:14:31 AM »

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If Kyrie averaged 15 assists, he’d be accused of holding the ball too much.

Did he hold the ball too much tonight?

look it is ideal he can avg 15 per game

but he should be doing at least 10 a game....not 5 or 6 as he is currently averaging

This whole the rest of the guys better step up is crazy

Irving needs to spread the wealth

He can attract double teams ....  he needs to use this to his adv

and then feed the other guys sweet spot.....get their games going also

If he want to become a better leader ...this is what it will take on this squad

Here's the top 15 in assists in the NBA right now:

Code: [Select]
Rank PLAYER TEAM AGE GP W L AST
1 R. Westbrook OKC 30 35 21 14 10.6
2 Kyle Lowry TOR 32 35 26 9 9.5
3 John Wall WAS 28 32 11 21 8.7
4 James Harden HOU 29 41 24 17 8.5
5 Jrue Holiday NOP 28 44 21 23 8.2
6 Ben Simmons PHI 22 44 29 15 8.2
7 Jeff Teague MIN 30 29 16 13 8.1
8 Chris Paul HOU 33 26 16 10 8
9 Nikola Jokic DEN 23 43 29 14 7.5
10 De'Aaron Fox SAC 21 44 23 21 7.3
11 Trae Young ATL 20 44 14 30 7.2
12 LeBron James LAL 34 34 20 14 7.1
13 Draymond Green GSW 28 30 22 8 7
14 Devin Booker PHX 22 32 8 24 6.9
15 Kyrie Irving BOS 26 39 23 16 6.7

I don't know if him averaging 10 (or even 9) assists a game is realistic (especially since most of our team is shooting .450 or below) but he can certainly improve from 15th position. I believe 6.7 is his career high for assists so he is headed in the right direction, he was averaging 4-5 in Cleveland most years.
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Any odd typos are because I suck at typing on an iPhone :D

Re: Raptors (33-12) at Celtics (25-18) Game #44 1/16/19
« Reply #584 on: January 17, 2019, 12:15:30 AM »

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If Kyrie can avg 15 assist a game ... this team will be great

we all know he is a lethal scorer

The assists will go a long way.  In the 2nd half it was good to see him keep distributing the ball and not try to do it all himself

trust


All Kyrie has to do is average more assists per game over the course of a season than Stockton ever did? Seems reasonable

Right because Stockton had Tatum, Brown, Hayward to work with

Stockton had one guy to go to basically
Yeah that guy just happens to be a top 5 scorer of all time, and they were the most unstoppable pick and roll duo ever.

Why didn’t Tony Parker average 15APG? Why didn’t Kobe? Why didn’t LeBron in Miami? Why doesn’t Curry?

Because even if you’re surrounded by insane talent, 15APG is video game level

Tony Parker WAS one of the go to scorers

KOBE was on hero mode 24/7

Lebron was not a pg but did average a high amount of assist....  he deferred a ton and put on the turbo when required

IRVING is the pg of this team. He is surrounded by 4 all star calibre player in Horford, Hayward, Tatum, Brown....  plus other capable scorers like Morris

YES he should average at least 10 assists per game

stop making excuses
Kyrie is far and away our best scorer. Nobody is close to him at the moment. Why do you want him to defer to lesser talent??

None of the guys you listed have been playing at an All-Star level this season.

the way you limit Kyrie capability is insulting to his growth and this teams path to success
LOL. I’m one of his biggest fans on the board, so it’s pretty hilarious for you to give me that.

It’s just being realistic with his talents. He’s one of the most skilled scorers in the whole league, as he can score with efficiency and ease from every level. He’s a good passer, but with the inconsistency of those around him I’d rather he shoot primarily.

That being said, when he uses his threat of scoring to create for others WHILE putting it in the hoop he is at his best

Well what the heck was the point of arguing with me for the last 5 min??

Exactly

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