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Title: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: CelticsElite on October 21, 2018, 01:47:43 AM
Feel like this was 10 years in the making a fight between cp3 and rondo finally happens

Video: https://youtu.be/8iA94g0A7lE

It begins with Ingram not liking contact and pushing harden then getting in the face of a ref Jason Phillips.

Then an actual fist fight breaks out between cp3 & rondo. Cp3 claims rondo spit on him

Cp3 pushes at rondos face with a finger in  rondos eye , Rondo connected a few closed fist punches to cp3 face, Ingram hit cp3 in the face possibly. Cp3 finally knows what its like to be hit in the face after being annoying for years


Side note- laker forums are mad that lbj went to comfort his friend cp3 instead of rondo/Ingram/lakers lol.
Title: Re: Rondo fist fight with CP3 after Ingram pushes harden and presses ref
Post by: SparzWizard on October 21, 2018, 01:50:48 AM
Wow I'm enjoying this! WWE. Too bad I don't like flopping CP3 and Rondo's a Laker now so I gotta hate him.

And since when did Ingram started learning how to fight around with these veteran all-star/superstar caliber players  ;D
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHT with CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: kraidstar on October 21, 2018, 01:58:04 AM
Has Ingram been training with LeBron? Maybe it's 'roid rage. Ol' sleepy eyes didn't seem like much of a fighter before,
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHT with CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: CelticsElite on October 21, 2018, 02:03:36 AM
Has Ingram been training with LeBron? Maybe it's 'roid rage. Ol' sleepy eyes didn't seem like much of a fighter before,
lol
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: gouki88 on October 21, 2018, 02:46:34 AM
I think Lakers fans being mad at the way LeBron reacted is completely valid. He didn't try and cool off his young teammate that he is supposedly teaching - he went over to his friend on the opposing team. If Al did that if say, RWill got into a scuffle, we'd be less than impressed
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: apc on October 21, 2018, 03:12:14 AM
Rondo might have some words with Lebron after this.
He we go LA, that’s your mentors
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 04:32:23 AM
I think Lakers fans being mad at the way LeBron reacted is completely valid. He didn't try and cool off his young teammate that he is supposedly teaching - he went over to his friend on the opposing team. If Al did that if say, RWill got into a scuffle, we'd be less than impressed

I saw this totally differently. LBJ made the worst move you can ever make for a friend in that kind of melee. He held CP3 from the back and fully exposed his face. The NBA and CP3 are both lucky that idiot Ingram did not connect on that haymaker he threw at CP3. If he had connected CP3 is probably in surgery at some point, and LeBron would be partly responsible. I think he spent all that extra time with his friend to make amends for his negligence.

As for Ingram, I think he is very frustrated because he saw himself as the potential face of the franchise just a year ago and now he is totally lost in the mix and after this I think any reasonable GM will put him on the block.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: moiso on October 21, 2018, 06:02:43 AM
I'd need to see some footage of Rondo spitting on Paul before I'd believe Paul about it.  It sounds like a convenient excuse for him putting his finger in Rondo's face.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: hodgy03038 on October 21, 2018, 07:24:23 AM
Does anyone have the video of the James Ennis flagrant foul in the game? NBA radio is saying it should have been a flagrant 2 and not just a flagrant 1. He clotheslined someone. I can't seem to find it.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Eddie20 on October 21, 2018, 07:46:39 AM
I think Lakers fans being mad at the way LeBron reacted is completely valid. He didn't try and cool off his young teammate that he is supposedly teaching - he went over to his friend on the opposing team. If Al did that if say, RWill got into a scuffle, we'd be less than impressed

I saw this totally differently. LBJ made the worst move you can ever make for a friend in that kind of melee. He held CP3 from the back and fully exposed his face. The NBA and CP3 are both lucky that idiot Ingram did not connect on that haymaker he threw at CP3. If he had connected CP3 is probably in surgery at some point, and LeBron would be partly responsible. I think he spent all that extra time with his friend to make amends for his negligence.

As for Ingram, I think he is very frustrated because he saw himself as the potential face of the franchise just a year ago and now he is totally lost in the mix and after this I think any reasonable GM will put him on the block.

1. You're giving Ingram's punching power way too much credit. You make him sound like Anderson Silvia.

2. Frustrated? He's starting, has improved significantly, is definitely not "lost in the mix", and he's a major part of their future.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Birdman on October 21, 2018, 07:46:59 AM
Lakers are full of troublemakers..what else do we expect?? Rondo..Beasley..McGee..Stephenson...Ball's dad..crybaby James..this going be a awful team and i love it!!!!
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: BitterJim on October 21, 2018, 08:10:29 AM
Jaylen Brown is anxiously watching to see if this affects CP3 being head of the Player's Association in any way
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: More Banners on October 21, 2018, 08:26:09 AM
I might have to get league pass this year.

To watch the Lakers, of all things.

Going to be a crap storm every night out there.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: coco on October 21, 2018, 08:49:38 AM
Jaylen Brown is anxiously watching to see if this affects CP3 being head of the Player's Association in any way

Hilarious!!

TP!
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: PAOBoston on October 21, 2018, 09:13:04 AM
There ws rreally no greater collection of players on the floor at the same time that I dislike like last night. Rondo, Lebron, CP3, Ingram, Melo. It was like Winning the lottery. I really hope al those guys get suspended.

Not sure Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. Ingram was doing btw. Run from half court and just swing at CP3 as Lebron was holding him.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: TheSundanceKid on October 21, 2018, 09:15:23 AM
I'd need to see some footage of Rondo spitting on Paul before I'd believe Paul about it.  It sounds like a convenient excuse for him putting his finger in Rondo's face.

There's no way Rondo spat at him. CP3 is a punk and a politician.

The Nba elite don't like Rondo, he was never in their clique. We had the Wade incident in Chicago and now this with LeBron. So much for LeBron being a leader for this young team, it fell to Lance Stephenson to calm them down!!
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: BitterJim on October 21, 2018, 09:17:45 AM
I'd need to see some footage of Rondo spitting on Paul before I'd believe Paul about it.  It sounds like a convenient excuse for him putting his finger in Rondo's face.

There's no way Rondo spat at him. CP3 is a punk and a politician.

The Nba elite don't like Rondo, he was never in their clique. We had the Wade incident in Chicago and now this with LeBron. So much for LeBron being a leader for this young team, it fell to Lance Stephenson to calm them down!!

Hey, Lebron was out there calming people down, too. He made sure that his friend Chris was nice and calm, and isn't that what really matters?
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 09:28:34 AM
I did not see ANY saliva leave Rondo's mouth...if it did, then it was accidental and not intentional...only a mist.

Rondo got in a good lick on CP3, though - and on the way to the locker rooms looked like CP3 had a small knot..

Better call State Farm.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: RJ87 on October 21, 2018, 09:35:26 AM
I'd need to see some footage of Rondo spitting on Paul before I'd believe Paul about it.  It sounds like a convenient excuse for him putting his finger in Rondo's face.

I've watched so many angles and I've yet to see one of Rondo spitting. Looks like CP3 is trying to deflect blame because he's the one who made it physical.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2018, 09:41:29 AM
There's something wrong with Ingram. He was looking to fight anybody for anything at all.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: hpantazo on October 21, 2018, 09:42:22 AM
Rondo must be disgusted with Lebron hugging it out with his buddy CP3 instead of supporting his team during and after the fight.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: indeedproceed on October 21, 2018, 10:25:52 AM
I'd need to see some footage of Rondo spitting on Paul before I'd believe Paul about it.  It sounds like a convenient excuse for him putting his finger in Rondo's face.

I've watched so many angles and I've yet to see one of Rondo spitting. Looks like CP3 is trying to deflect blame because he's the one who made it physical.

You CAN clearly see CP3 wipe his face before going after Rondo. Doesn’t Rondo also have a history of spitting? I don’t think it’s clear he DID do it, but it’s not clear he didn’t either. Let it go to trial I say
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: manl_lui on October 21, 2018, 10:26:48 AM
saw this live, entertaining but this was my feeling

(https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/7063892_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Roy H. on October 21, 2018, 10:32:25 AM
There's something wrong with Ingram. He was looking to fight anybody for anything at all.

Yeah, he’s the real idiot here.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Big333223 on October 21, 2018, 10:35:58 AM
Rondo is a kind of a maniac but he's certainly not a "hold me back" NBA instigator. I've got respect for him there.

Has there been a lot of fights early this season? The Smart/Smit scuffle in preseason, the Heat and Wizards got into it a few nights ago, now this. Is it a coincidence, am I overreacting, or is something going on?
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenWarrior on October 21, 2018, 10:42:49 AM
some are saying rondo spit at paul, I've watched a couple times and still don't see anything. is there any video out there that shows this?

either way I've been waiting for yrs. for rondo to deck paul after paul dissed rondo on tnt, glad it happened & glad it happened while he was a part of the lakers so we don't have to deal with the consequences.

also paul landed a couple of punches, weak or not it counts.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: MaxAMillion on October 21, 2018, 11:03:00 AM
I will always ride with Rondo. I can't stand CP3. Rondo didn't spit on CP3. Some are saying now that Melo did it by mistake. Anyway Ingram was the problem. Pushing Harden because he got called for a foul. We all know Harden pulls that lean into you to draw contact nonsense. He has been doing it since Ingram was in junior high. No need to start a fight over it.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: RJ87 on October 21, 2018, 11:16:43 AM
I'd need to see some footage of Rondo spitting on Paul before I'd believe Paul about it.  It sounds like a convenient excuse for him putting his finger in Rondo's face.

I've watched so many angles and I've yet to see one of Rondo spitting. Looks like CP3 is trying to deflect blame because he's the one who made it physical.

You CAN clearly see CP3 wipe his face before going after Rondo. Doesn’t Rondo also have a history of spitting? I don’t think it’s clear he DID do it, but it’s not clear he didn’t either. Let it go to trial I say

So there's video of CP3 wiping his face, but still no video of Rondo spitting? Who's to say someone else didn't spit on him accidentally - Melo is kind of close to the action. How do we know it wasn't sweat? I agree - let it go to trial. All I see is circumstantial evidence and tons of reasonable doubt.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 11:19:21 AM
I think Lakers fans being mad at the way LeBron reacted is completely valid. He didn't try and cool off his young teammate that he is supposedly teaching - he went over to his friend on the opposing team. If Al did that if say, RWill got into a scuffle, we'd be less than impressed

I saw this totally differently. LBJ made the worst move you can ever make for a friend in that kind of melee. He held CP3 from the back and fully exposed his face. The NBA and CP3 are both lucky that idiot Ingram did not connect on that haymaker he threw at CP3. If he had connected CP3 is probably in surgery at some point, and LeBron would be partly responsible. I think he spent all that extra time with his friend to make amends for his negligence.

As for Ingram, I think he is very frustrated because he saw himself as the potential face of the franchise just a year ago and now he is totally lost in the mix and after this I think any reasonable GM will put him on the block.

1. You're giving Ingram's punching power way too much credit. You make him sound like Anderson Silvia.

2. Frustrated? He's starting, has improved significantly, is definitely not "lost in the mix", and he's a major part of their future.

lol @ point 1

As to point number 2, he was horrible last night. He looked like the worst Laker on the court at all times.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: bdm860 on October 21, 2018, 11:24:48 AM
Part of the reason why I love Rondo is because spitting on Paul is something I totally think he's capable of doing, whether or not he actually did it.

I'm surprised, a lot of you are saying "did he spit, I don't see him spit, I don't believe he spit..."

And I'm over here thinking, "ya that sounds like something Rondo would definitely do."
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: No Nickname on October 21, 2018, 11:46:39 AM
Rondo’s punch was a lefty too. Impressive!  He hit Paul pretty squarely but it didn’t look like a full force punch with his legs behind it.

Paul’s hits on Rondo seemed a little harder as he was stepping in to them. He got one clean shot and one glancer.

Then Ingram got in a 7ft wingspan glancing blow on Paul.

I’d say Paul gave as good as he got. But he had to expect to get punched after poking Rondo so ha4 in the eye area.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 11:52:21 AM
Part of the reason why I love Rondo is because spitting on Paul is something I totally think he's capable of doing, whether or not he actually did it.

I'm surprised, a lot of you are saying "did he spit, I don't see him spit, I don't believe he spit..."

And I'm over here thinking, "ya that sounds like something Rondo would definitely do."

I was thinking Rondo did something before CP3 reacted. Rondo was there to instigate he was standing there in front of Paul and two other Rockets players. I thought that he had either said something or spat in Paul's face. I was  not surprised to hear Paul make that allegation. There is still no video evidence of it other than the circumstance of Paul wiping his eye orbit before he poked Rondo in the face.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: RJ87 on October 21, 2018, 11:55:33 AM
Part of the reason why I love Rondo is because spitting on Paul is something I totally think he's capable of doing, whether or not he actually did it.

I'm surprised, a lot of you are saying "did he spit, I don't see him spit, I don't believe he spit..."

And I'm over here thinking, "ya that sounds like something Rondo would definitely do."

Why rely on hearsay when there's hundreds of cameras in Staples? If it wasn't for Rondo's reputation, people would accept that the video doesn't show him spitting on CP3 instead of debating whether or not he's capable of it.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: trickybilly on October 21, 2018, 11:55:52 AM
I kinda get Ingram pushing Harden like that... walking across Ingram's path waving his hand around asking for something from the ref without any regard to who is in the way.

Agree about LeBron though, he shoulda been holding Ingram back, not Paul.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 11:57:53 AM
Part of the reason why I love Rondo is because spitting on Paul is something I totally think he's capable of doing, whether or not he actually did it.

I'm surprised, a lot of you are saying "did he spit, I don't see him spit, I don't believe he spit..."

And I'm over here thinking, "ya that sounds like something Rondo would definitely do."

Why rely on hearsay when there's hundreds of cameras in Staples? If it wasn't for Rondo's reputation, people would accept that the video doesn't show him spitting on CP3 instead of debating whether or not he's capable of it.

this is why reputation and track record is important ..... Paul > Rondo in the integrity department.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 11:59:28 AM
I kinda get Ingram pushing Harden like that... walking across Ingram's path waving his hand around asking for something from the ref without any regard to who is in the way.

Agree about LeBron though, he shoulda been holding Ingram back, not Paul.

huh? you get Ingram? that was a punk move that started everything and he was rightly assessed a technical for that nonsense.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenWarrior on October 21, 2018, 12:05:29 PM
Part of the reason why I love Rondo is because spitting on Paul is something I totally think he's capable of doing, whether or not he actually did it.

I'm surprised, a lot of you are saying "did he spit, I don't see him spit, I don't believe he spit..."

And I'm over here thinking, "ya that sounds like something Rondo would definitely do."

let's forget reputation's and track records for a min. here. as I mentioned in my previous post I believe a confrontation between these 2 was long over due and inevitable. 
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: RJ87 on October 21, 2018, 12:07:34 PM
Part of the reason why I love Rondo is because spitting on Paul is something I totally think he's capable of doing, whether or not he actually did it.

I'm surprised, a lot of you are saying "did he spit, I don't see him spit, I don't believe he spit..."

And I'm over here thinking, "ya that sounds like something Rondo would definitely do."

Why rely on hearsay when there's hundreds of cameras in Staples? If it wasn't for Rondo's reputation, people would accept that the video doesn't show him spitting on CP3 instead of debating whether or not he's capable of it.

this is why reputation and track record is important ..... Paul > Rondo in the integrity department.

Is he? Paul may have a better better public relations team, but he's no saint. I'm still not seeing why we should dismiss video evidence because Paul says so. Because that's a load of..... something.

CP3 eye gouging Rondo was dirty. Put let's make the narrative about something else.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenWarrior on October 21, 2018, 12:25:51 PM
yeah we live in a society now where reputation and track record outweigh proof anyway so what's the point of hunting down a video that might show the truth...
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: TA9 on October 21, 2018, 12:26:58 PM
Seems like Rondo actually did spit on Chris Paul.

https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584 (https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584)

Doesn't bode well for Rondo.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenWarrior on October 21, 2018, 12:30:01 PM
Seems like Rondo actually did spit on Chris Paul.

https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584 (https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584)

Doesn't bode well for Rondo.

there we go, that's all I was asking for.

and ya know what, changes nothing on my opinion. I've long felt paul is a doosh and he's had something like this coming from rondo for yrs. now.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Rondo9 on October 21, 2018, 12:37:06 PM
Seems like Rondo actually did spit on Chris Paul.

https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584 (https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584)

Doesn't bode well for Rondo.

Some people on Twitter are saying it’s altered.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: indeedproceed on October 21, 2018, 12:39:57 PM
Part of the reason why I love Rondo is because spitting on Paul is something I totally think he's capable of doing, whether or not he actually did it.

I'm surprised, a lot of you are saying "did he spit, I don't see him spit, I don't believe he spit..."

And I'm over here thinking, "ya that sounds like something Rondo would definitely do."

Yep.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: trickybilly on October 21, 2018, 12:47:42 PM
I kinda get Ingram pushing Harden like that... walking across Ingram's path waving his hand around asking for something from the ref without any regard to who is in the way.

Agree about LeBron though, he shoulda been holding Ingram back, not Paul.

huh? you get Ingram? that was a punk move that started everything and he was rightly assessed a technical for that nonsense.

Yeah, I don't know, I hate Harden, always complaining.. Look how he walks right into Ingram, doing the two fingers thing. Sure Ingram gets a tech for that, but I just understand his frustration
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: apc on October 21, 2018, 12:52:35 PM
The spit!

https://twitter.com/rockets_insider/status/1054045620527341570?s=12
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: rondofan1255 on October 21, 2018, 01:00:20 PM
didn't Rondo almost get into a fistfight with Rafer Alston a while back?

both have been hotheads their entire careers so this isn't really surprising...

if someone had to get punched, I wish it had been Harden  :P



Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 01:06:03 PM
Those spit clips....don't think I've EVER seen spit come out of someone's mouth like that before..

Is there a DIRECT FACIAL view of Rondo spitting?

With technology nowadays, SO MUCH stuff can be doctored...hard to trust technology sometimes.

EDIT - Looks like Rondo DOES motion his mouth as if he's spitting.

Rondo is wrong if he's done this.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: CelticsElite on October 21, 2018, 01:17:45 PM
Woj

Sources: NBA's expected to learn two things on case Lakers/Rajon Rondo will make to league: Rondo suffered a cut/scratch under right eye from Chris Paul, which Rondo contends provoked him. Also, Rondo used a mouthguard, which presumably would complicate alleged act of spitting.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: SparzWizard on October 21, 2018, 01:18:27 PM
The spit!

https://twitter.com/rockets_insider/status/1054045620527341570?s=12

It's a Rockets page, so things can easily be altered lol. Gotta see it from a neutral and official source. Plus, too many cut-off zoom-ins.

Though Rondo is a feisty one.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 01:20:47 PM
yeah we live in a society now where reputation and track record outweigh proof anyway so what's the point of hunting down a video that might show the truth...

character counts..... unprovoked violence not a character trait exhibited by Paul....getting under opponents skin? definitely a Rondo trait. This is not to discount the video evidence but character matters in initial assessment in the absence of evidence.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 01:25:00 PM
Seems like Rondo actually did spit on Chris Paul.

https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584 (https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584)

Doesn't bode well for Rondo.

I KNEW IT......I kept saying it at the time... Rondo did something to provoke that poke in the face. I just knew he had said something. I kept rewinding and replaying until I noticed Paul wipe  his face, that is when it occurred to me that he might have spit in Paul's face. If that video is not  manipulated then it confirms my suspicion.

Paul's reaction now seems tame in light of what happened. He could easily have spit back in Rondo's face.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: CelticsElite on October 21, 2018, 01:28:07 PM
Woj: Whatever case Rondo's making, NBA is evaluating a video clip captured courtside that shows saliva/spit shooting from Rondo's mouth onto Chris Paul's face. It appears Rondo will have to sell league on fact that it was unintentional -- and that appears to be a tough case to make.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 01:29:02 PM
Seems like Rondo actually did spit on Chris Paul.

https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584 (https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584)

Doesn't bode well for Rondo.

there we go, that's all I was asking for.

and ya know what, changes nothing on my opinion. I've long felt paul is a doosh and he's had something like this coming from rondo for yrs. now.

of course it changes nothing for you because you were really never interested in the evidence. Like most other disputes people just cling to their tribe evidence and precedence notwithstanding. We all know or should know Rondo is a punk. Sure he was our punk for a while and we probably enjoyed him. There is a reason why Paul is the president of the Union and Rondo is not. There is a reason Paul has national commercial campaigns while Rondo has none.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 01:30:33 PM
Part of the reason why I love Rondo is because spitting on Paul is something I totally think he's capable of doing, whether or not he actually did it.

I'm surprised, a lot of you are saying "did he spit, I don't see him spit, I don't believe he spit..."

And I'm over here thinking, "ya that sounds like something Rondo would definitely do."

Yep.

Yep squared...TP to Indeed, proceed fellows.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: CelticsElite on October 21, 2018, 01:30:34 PM
Seems like Rondo actually did spit on Chris Paul.

https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584 (https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584)

Doesn't bode well for Rondo.

there we go, that's all I was asking for.

and ya know what, changes nothing on my opinion. I've long felt paul is a doosh and he's had something like this coming from rondo for yrs. now.

of course it changes nothing for you because you were really never interested in the evidence. Like most other disputes people just cling to their tribe evidence and precedence notwithstanding. We all know or should know Rondo is a punk. Sure he was our punk for a while and we probably enjoyed him. There is a reason why Paul is the president of the Union and Rondo is not. There is a reason Paul has national commercial campaigns while Rondo has none.
its very possible it was unintentional. I know it’s unlikely but maybe rondo was out of his zone and didn’t realize cp3 was that close to him, or rondo was just exhaling and it came out

But yeah I think it was intentional. Lol it was pretty funny to me
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 01:37:02 PM
Seems like Rondo actually did spit on Chris Paul.

https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584 (https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584)

Doesn't bode well for Rondo.

there we go, that's all I was asking for.

and ya know what, changes nothing on my opinion. I've long felt paul is a doosh and he's had something like this coming from rondo for yrs. now.

of course it changes nothing for you because you were really never interested in the evidence. Like most other disputes people just cling to their tribe evidence and precedence notwithstanding. We all know or should know Rondo is a punk. Sure he was our punk for a while and we probably enjoyed him. There is a reason why Paul is the president of the Union and Rondo is not. There is a reason Paul has national commercial campaigns while Rondo has none.
its very possible it was unintentional. I know it’s unlikely but maybe rondo was out of his zone and didn’t realize cp3 was that close to him, or rondo was just exhaling and it came out

lol ...defense attorneys will love you on a jury. I just call BS when I see it. Rondo is a punk. What was he doing right in Paul's face to begin with? He was right there in the face of three Rockets.  If it was unintentional why did he not apologize right away? He really should get slammed by the NBA for this nonsense.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: hwangjini_1 on October 21, 2018, 01:39:55 PM
reading all about these things about the lakers make me all warm and fuzzy inside. i love to see the lakers suffer through all this.  ;D

next, let's make this a family affair!!


Lauren A. Jones
@LoJoMedia
 An eyewitness told @thelasentinel Ramon Rondo’s significant oher shoved Jada Paul, Chris Paul’s wife, who was sitting next to Savannah James. Security immediately broke the two up.

EDIT: video clearly shows rondo spitting. this is on SoSH, scroll down to video by Rachel Nicols.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/2018-nba-game-thread.25214/page-4
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 01:47:13 PM
Tell you this, though - if I EVER get into a Bar fight I want Rondo on my side!

Give me Rondo and Charles Oakley.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: TA9 on October 21, 2018, 01:48:44 PM
Ex Celtics players join the debate:

Quote
Jared Sullinger: CP and Rondo exchange is nothing new!! Do your history!! These two never liked each other!!

Quote
Paul Pierce: Rondo and Chris Paul have never liked each other

Rondo has always been one of my favorite players in the NBA, however, I'm not going to defend him on this one. He knew perfectly well what he was doing - trying to provoke Paul to lash out on him first.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Rondo9 on October 21, 2018, 02:01:34 PM
Seems like Rondo actually did spit on Chris Paul.

https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584 (https://twitter.com/tom2517/status/1054043044817731584)

Doesn't bode well for Rondo.

there we go, that's all I was asking for.

and ya know what, changes nothing on my opinion. I've long felt paul is a doosh and he's had something like this coming from rondo for yrs. now.

of course it changes nothing for you because you were really never interested in the evidence. Like most other disputes people just cling to their tribe evidence and precedence notwithstanding. We all know or should know Rondo is a punk. Sure he was our punk for a while and we probably enjoyed him. There is a reason why Paul is the president of the Union and Rondo is not. There is a reason Paul has national commercial campaigns while Rondo has none.
its very possible it was unintentional. I know it’s unlikely but maybe rondo was out of his zone and didn’t realize cp3 was that close to him, or rondo was just exhaling and it came out

lol ...defense attorneys will love you on a jury. I just call BS when I see it. Rondo is a punk. What was he doing right in Paul's face to begin with? He was right there in the face of three Rockets.  If it was unintentional why did he not apologize right away? He really should get slammed by the NBA for this nonsense.

Because Paul was in his face first?
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Big333223 on October 21, 2018, 02:18:25 PM
reading all about these things about the lakers make me all warm and fuzzy inside. i love to see the lakers suffer through all this.  ;D

next, let's make this a family affair!!


Lauren A. Jones
@LoJoMedia
 An eyewitness told @thelasentinel Ramon Rondo’s significant oher shoved Jada Paul, Chris Paul’s wife, who was sitting next to Savannah James. Security immediately broke the two up.

EDIT: video clearly shows rondo spitting. this is on SoSH, scroll down to video by Rachel Nicols.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/2018-nba-game-thread.25214/page-4

We can quibble about what constitutes "spit" and I will because I think this is all hilarious.

Looking at the Rachel Nichols video, it does kind of look like saliva and there does seem to be a corresponding head jerk (very small) from Chris Paul. He then wipes his face.

But Rondo is wearing a mouth piece. When I hear "he spit on me" I have an action in my mind that simply could not be accomplished with a mouth piece in. And Rondo does not do the thing that I think of when I think of "spitting." It looks more like Rondo blowing some air out of his mouth and some incidental saliva is carried along with it and because their faces are right next to one another's (for some reason, NBA toughness can look very romantic if you slow it down a little) Paul gets some.

But given how close their faces are and the heated exchange, it's valid to ask if Rondo intentionally expels some moist air, knowing Paul will get some. Does that constitute "spitting"? Does it matter if it's technically spitting because it's still gross? I don't know where I come down there.

I do think Chris Paul's "finger in your face" move was weak and Rondo's punch looked pretty solid. Those two would make for an interesting boxing match if they were ever allowed to go the distance.

I'm usually not into NBA fights but for some reason I'm getting a lot of fun out of this one.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: gpap on October 21, 2018, 02:30:09 PM
I saw the clip, thanks for posting.

After watching the video a second and third time, I am not sure why Ingram fouled Harden. Ingram was the one who committed the foul in the first place.

As for Rondo and CP3, it looks like Paul was the instigator and Rondo then threw a punch. Oh well, I don't like either guy.

The best part is the Lakers are now 0-2  :D

And why is Lebron spending so much time throughout the scrum trying to comfort Chris Paul instead of his supporting his teammates?

Maybe he should've gone to Houston instead.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 02:30:29 PM
reading all about these things about the lakers make me all warm and fuzzy inside. i love to see the lakers suffer through all this.  ;D

next, let's make this a family affair!!


Lauren A. Jones
@LoJoMedia
 An eyewitness told @thelasentinel Ramon Rondo’s significant oher shoved Jada Paul, Chris Paul’s wife, who was sitting next to Savannah James. Security immediately broke the two up.

EDIT: video clearly shows rondo spitting. this is on SoSH, scroll down to video by Rachel Nicols.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/2018-nba-game-thread.25214/page-4

We can quibble about what constitutes "spit" and I will because I think this is all hilarious.

Looking at the Rachel Nichols video, it does kind of look like saliva and there does seem to be a corresponding head jerk (very small) from Chris Paul. He then wipes his face.

But Rondo is wearing a mouth piece. When I hear "he spit on me" I have an action in my mind that simply could not be accomplished with a mouth piece in. And Rondo does not do the thing that I think of when I think of "spitting." It looks more like Rondo blowing some air out of his mouth and some incidental saliva is carried along with it and because their faces are right next to one another's (for some reason, NBA toughness can look very romantic if you slow it down a little) Paul gets some.

But given how close their faces are and the heated exchange, it's valid to ask if Rondo intentionally expels some moist air, knowing Paul will get some. Does that constitute "spitting"? Does it matter if it's technically spitting because it's still gross? I don't know where I come down there.

I do think Chris Paul's "finger in your face" move was weak and Rondo's punch looked pretty solid. Those two would make for an interesting boxing match if they were ever allowed to go the distance.

I'm usually not into NBA fights but for some reason I'm getting a lot of fun out of this one.

My money would be on RAJON RONDO - every day and TWICE on Sundays.

Rondo is my Rocky.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: apc on October 21, 2018, 02:46:24 PM
Can you fo anti-gay slurs with a mouth piece?
People need to stop protecting rondo.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 02:48:08 PM
Can you fo anti-gay slurs with a mouth piece?
People need to stop protecting rondo.

Umm...he DID apologize for that...don't you remember?
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 03:56:19 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 21, 2018, 03:57:10 PM
I love Rondo. 
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 04:23:49 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Even if they were there and did film it themselves, did they program the firmware and software for the camera themselves? Who's to say that somebody with a grudge against Rondo didn't put in some facial recognition and image-modifying software on the camera? If you didn't feel the spit yourself, you really can't tell for sure that it happened.

Or, you know, you can assume that everyone isn't out to get Rondo, and that a reporter like Nichols verifies her sources herself. It's always good to take the source into consideration, but there's a such thing as taking it too far

Good points and noted.

There IS a thing about taking it too far...

But we ALL know that - from Basketball fans OUTSIDE of BOSTON - Rajon Rondo carries the stench of GREEN.

Rajon has not always enamored himself to the media, as well.

He did some questionable things in DAL...in CHI...he carries some baggage, admittedly.

Now place these incidents up against State Farm Poster Boy and NBA President Chris Paul (and LeBron James' best friend) and you can REALLY have things stacked against you from the start.

If it is proven - beyond a shadow of a doubt - that Rajon Rondo acted irresponsibly then I am all for whatever the NBA has for him discipline-wise.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: liam on October 21, 2018, 04:49:45 PM
When I see NBA players throwing those punches around I can't help but think of Kermit Washington hitting Rudy Tomjanovich. All the punches thrown last night pretty much missed but it's stupid and dangerous. All three players should get harsh suspensions.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 21, 2018, 05:09:47 PM
I might have to get league pass this year.

To watch the Lakers, of all things.

Going to be a crap storm every night out there.

i was thinking same thing about LP.  I enjoyed the Portland / LA game alot .   Lakers arw playing like a bunch of maniacs.   I hate em ...but its excitimg .....yes there is gonna be alot of fights with that roster of hot heads and cheaters.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Ogaju on October 21, 2018, 05:14:23 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 05:22:12 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenEnvy on October 21, 2018, 05:36:51 PM
This thread is pretty funny.

“I don’t believe anything Chris Paul says!”
“I need video proof of Rondo spitting”
“That video is doctored! I need a better angle”

Cmon, even before the video I believed it. Rondo is a punk.

I think spitting on someone is even worse than punching. If I was Kiki or Silver or whoever hands down the punishment I’d give Rondo the most games, followed by Ingram because he had ample time to think about him swinging, and then Paul. What did Paul really do that was so wrong? He got spit on, so he retaliated by poking Rondo in the face, which Rondo then threw the first punch, and Paul defended himself.

So by my tally:
Rondo: spit in players face then engulfed altercation by throwing punch
Ingram: initiated entire situation by shoving Harden, runs from halfcourt to throw punch
Paul: puts finger into face of Rondo, throws punch in self-defense

If the league suspends Rondo and Paul for the same amount, they are basically telling guys to be punching bags if someone swings on you.


LeBron going to CP3 reminded me of when the Yankees and Mariners had a brawl and ARod and Jeter were hanging out at second base together watching. Which also reminds me, nice to see Lonzo actually help out instead of walk away from his teammates like he did last season.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Roy H. on October 21, 2018, 05:54:50 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 05:59:21 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 21, 2018, 06:08:54 PM
When I see NBA players throwing those punches around I can't help but think of Kermit Washington hitting Rudy Tomjanovich. All the punches thrown last night pretty much missed but it's stupid and dangerous. All three players should get harsh suspensions.

takes me back to the gory days of Tree Rollins , Ainge ,  when men played like ......yes yes yes !,,,,

savages ....they had pride .
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Rondo9 on October 21, 2018, 06:09:06 PM
This thread is pretty funny.

“I don’t believe anything Chris Paul says!”
“I need video proof of Rondo spitting”
“That video is doctored! I need a better angle”



Because maybe people are looking at the source. Can we at least look at things with some skepticism?
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Roy H. on October 21, 2018, 06:16:30 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?

Proven by who? There’s no jury.

The video proves it for all but hardened conspiracy theorists, Rondo sycophants, and Laker fans.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: No Nickname on October 21, 2018, 06:18:43 PM
Didn’t Pierce spit on LeBron once?  Or in his general direction?
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 06:20:16 PM
When I see NBA players throwing those punches around I can't help but think of Kermit Washington hitting Rudy Tomjanovich. All the punches thrown last night pretty much missed but it's stupid and dangerous. All three players should get harsh suspensions.

takes me back to the gory days of Tree Rollins , Ainge ,  when men played like ......yes yes yes !,,,,

savages ....they had pride .

Ainge was / IS - The Man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VlM1h5vwyY

Him going up against Tree like that...those were the days.

Rajon Rondo is cut from the same cloth.

I don't care WHO he plays for now he will ALWAYS be a Celtic, to me.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: rondofan1255 on October 21, 2018, 06:34:34 PM
Quote
Sources: NBA suspensions – Brandon Ingram 4 games; Rajon Rondo 3 games; Chris Paul 2 games.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1054137903331328000?s=21
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 21, 2018, 06:36:32 PM
New Conspiracy Theory


Rondo is innocent.....

There was a 2 nd spitter on the grassy Knoll !   ;D
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: CelticSooner on October 21, 2018, 06:41:28 PM
New Conspiracy Theory


Rondo is innocent.....

There was a 2 nd spitter on the grassy Knoll !   ;D

Back and to the left!

(https://cdn-s3.si.com/images/1XjZb5.gif)
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 06:41:28 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?

Proven by who? There’s no jury.

The video proves it for all but hardened conspiracy theorists, Rondo sycophants, and Laker fans.

Well, you got me on ONE out of the three -

You can call me a Rondo sycophant if you want, but I'll ALWAYS respect ANYONE who laid it on the line for BOSTON like Rajon Rondo did.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Rondo9 on October 21, 2018, 06:48:10 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?

Proven by who? There’s no jury.

The video proves it for all but hardened conspiracy theorists, Rondo sycophants, and Laker fans.

Well, you got me on ONE out of the three -

You can call me a Rondo sycophant if you want, but I'll ALWAYS respect ANYONE who laid it on the line for BOSTON like Rajon Rondo did.

I guess questioning the source gets you labeled as a conspiracy theorist or a sycophant. :D
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: gouki88 on October 21, 2018, 06:49:19 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?

Proven by who? There’s no jury.

The video proves it for all but hardened conspiracy theorists, Rondo sycophants, and Laker fans.

Well, you got me on ONE out of the three -

You can call me a Rondo sycophant if you want, but I'll ALWAYS respect ANYONE who laid it on the line for BOSTON like Rajon Rondo did.

I guess questioning the source gets you labeled as a conspiracy theorist or a sycophant. :D
How dare someone do that! ;D
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Roy H. on October 21, 2018, 06:51:27 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?

Proven by who? There’s no jury.

The video proves it for all but hardened conspiracy theorists, Rondo sycophants, and Laker fans.

Well, you got me on ONE out of the three -

You can call me a Rondo sycophant if you want, but I'll ALWAYS respect ANYONE who laid it on the line for BOSTON like Rajon Rondo did.

I guess questioning the source gets you labeled as a conspiracy theorist or a sycophant. :D

Questioning CP3 is reasonable.

Questioning crystal clear video that popped up within hours which coincides with CP3’s reaction is unreasonable.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 06:53:14 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?

Proven by who? There’s no jury.

The video proves it for all but hardened conspiracy theorists, Rondo sycophants, and Laker fans.

Well, you got me on ONE out of the three -

You can call me a Rondo sycophant if you want, but I'll ALWAYS respect ANYONE who laid it on the line for BOSTON like Rajon Rondo did.

I guess questioning the source gets you labeled as a conspiracy theorist or a sycophant. :D

ONLY if you go against the grain...think independently and question what you see.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: CelticSooner on October 21, 2018, 07:08:38 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?

Proven by who? There’s no jury.

The video proves it for all but hardened conspiracy theorists, Rondo sycophants, and Laker fans.

Well, you got me on ONE out of the three -

You can call me a Rondo sycophant if you want, but I'll ALWAYS respect ANYONE who laid it on the line for BOSTON like Rajon Rondo did.

I guess questioning the source gets you labeled as a conspiracy theorist or a sycophant. :D

ONLY if you go against the grain...think independently and question what you see.

You just outed yourself Kyrie  8)
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 07:11:39 PM
Quote
Sources: NBA suspensions – Brandon Ingram 4 games; Rajon Rondo 3 games; Chris Paul 2 games.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1054137903331328000?s=21

According to the update from ESPN looks like Rondo DID spit.

Three game suspension.

Bad move from him but won't make me change my love and appreciation of him for what he did in BOS.

BTW - anyone seen CP3's son?

Cute dude is a spitting image of his father.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: Moranis on October 21, 2018, 08:00:39 PM
Ingram 4 games, Rondo 3 games, Paul 2 games.  All without pay.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: GreenWarrior on October 21, 2018, 08:29:23 PM
sooo if you have good character there's no chance you can be lying and even if you are there's no point in proving otherwise. I swear there was a time when there was some sort of justice out there... maybe I was just too young and it just seemed that way.


and apparently you only get 2 games even if you landed more punches than anyone else in the altercation.

either way some of you could have the definitions of justice and law right in front of you and if asked to read it back to an audience I guarantee you wouldn't be able to do it.
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: greg683x on October 21, 2018, 08:32:38 PM
Ingram 4 games, Rondo 3 games, Paul 2 games.  All without pay.

Seems a bit soft to me.  I was thinking Paul and Rondo would get 5 games at least.  Ingram deserves to get 10
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: gouki88 on October 21, 2018, 08:40:51 PM
Ingram 4 games, Rondo 3 games, Paul 2 games.  All without pay.

Seems a bit soft to me.  I was thinking Paul and Rondo would get 5 games at least.  Ingram deserves to get 10
And hurt the records of LeBron & Harden even more? No way! NBA wouldn’t like that...
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: hwangjini_1 on October 21, 2018, 08:43:42 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?

Proven by who? There’s no jury.

The video proves it for all but hardened conspiracy theorists, Rondo sycophants, and Laker fans.
no, no roy!!! you have not considered the possibility that maybe celticsstrong has been invaded by russian bots!!!! they're everywhere!!!

the russian bots know how loyal and patriotic and loving-of-all-things-america-[dang it] we all are here, and so they wish to sow dischord and disinformation among us by planting false videos!!!

sigh, is there nothing and no place sacred or safe anymore??  :-[
Title: Re: Rondo FIST FIGHTS CP3 after Ingram pushes harden & presses the ref
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 21, 2018, 08:51:21 PM
the fact that we can actually argue whether a spit is a spit is why attorneys make a lot of money in our country.

There is a VIDEO and supposedly reasonable people still CANNOT agree.

AMAZING!!!!

No wonder we had OJ debacle.

Kavanaugh hearings, and now

the Saudi's are trying to make idiots of the entire world.

it's so hard because someone with decent tech skills AND an AGENDA "CAN" doctor videos.

It's the times we live in.

Yeah but also can’t people with some decent googling skills and elementary level research ability also verify a good source vs a bad one?

If you are meaning the video that Rachel Nichols owns - from the ESPN article - then while I'd consider Rachel Nichols to be an excellent source and trusted where did SHE get the video from?

Was she at the game? Did she produce it?

That video from Rachel is the same one that is listed on Page 2 or 3 of this thread - from ANOTHER source..

From Poster "TA9" on page 3 and on that twitter account it is from a "Tom y"...

Was "Tom y" at the game? Did HE produce the twitter clip? Where did HE get it from?

Let's assume for whatever reason that the "spit" was added electronically.  Why is CP3 wiping his face like that?

Because - as we ALL know here and have commented PLENTY of times - Chris Paul - while being a GREAT player and a future HOFer - is ALSO a great actor..

And to add further - From Woj account - the belief that Rajon Rondo was wearing a MOUTH PIECE needs to be taken into account as well.

Look - ONE THING I've learned from Pres. Donald Trump himself - you can't trust ALL aspects of the media. I'm certainly NOT as anti-media as HE is but if someone wants to frame you and smear you it is easy to do nowadays.

you sure have a lot of explanation for everything..... suspension of disbelief.

I wouldn't call it that.

To be honest - I'd call it Trust but Verify. Consider ALL sources.

I didn't create the society we live in nowadays I just live in it.

Trust Chris Paul when he says he was spit on.

Verify it with crystal clear video.

Tell that to Lakers Coach Luke Walton.

Quote
When asked Sunday if Rondo spit on Paul, Lakers head coach Luke Walton said, "No."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25043399/nba-looking-video-showing-rajon-rondo-spitting-chris-paul

Like I said before I'll go with whatever the NBA decides to do but I am certainly NOT going to pass judgement until then.

Innocent until proven guilty - right?

Proven by who? There’s no jury.

The video proves it for all but hardened conspiracy theorists, Rondo sycophants, and Laker fans.
no, no roy!!! you have not considered the possibility that maybe celticsstrong has been invaded by russian bots!!!! they're everywhere!!!

the russian bots know how loyal and patriotic and loving-of-all-things-america-[dang it] we all are here, and so they wish to sow dischord and disinformation among us by planting false videos!!!

sigh, is there nothing and no place sacred or safe anymore??  :-[

And just the fact that you seem to be making fun of Russia's involvement in our election process shows where YOU stand.

I understand that this blog (even NOW) is a place of some cliques and groups but I will always think critically.

It has gotten me THIS far and life and I see no reason to change.

(http://www.bbcmilliken.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/consistencyinastormblog.jpg)
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: KGs Knee on October 21, 2018, 09:04:57 PM
Ingram 4 games, Rondo 3 games, Paul 2 games.  All without pay.

Seems a bit soft to me.  I was thinking Paul and Rondo would get 5 games at least.  Ingram deserves to get 10

I think the suspensions for Rondo/Paul are about in line with past precedent and probably fair.  Regardless of whether or not Rondo 'spit' on Paul intentionally or not, the video doesn't lie, saliva left Rondo's mouth and hit Paul in the face.  That said, poking someone in the eye is far more dangerous than spitting in someone's face. But being the one that escalated the situation, I suppose Rondo deserved the extra game, even if Paul's 'eye-poke' was easily worse than anything Rondo did.

I do think Ingram got off light, though.  That running sucker punch was totally unacceptable.

All of that said, though, one of these days Chris Paul is going to get his comeuppance.  This is the same guy that orchestrated the backdoor 'break in' into the Clippers lockeroom last year. Try poking me in the eye and you're not going to get that finger back attached to your hand.  Chris Paul is a piece of fecal matter.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 21, 2018, 09:40:21 PM
Bron is going to have to step up to make up for Rondos assists and BI s points.   

Bron is mad he hates having to play hard and expend energy . 
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: Chief on October 21, 2018, 10:29:51 PM
Bron is going to have to step up to make up for Rondos assists and BI s points.   

Bron is mad he hates having to play hard and expend energy .

It's comical watching him not play defense.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: blink on October 21, 2018, 10:57:06 PM
Ingram 4 games, Rondo 3 games, Paul 2 games.  All without pay.

Seems a bit soft to me.  I was thinking Paul and Rondo would get 5 games at least.  Ingram deserves to get 10

I think the suspensions for Rondo/Paul are about in line with past precedent and probably fair.  Regardless of whether or not Rondo 'spit' on Paul intentionally or not, the video doesn't lie, saliva left Rondo's mouth and hit Paul in the face.  That said, poking someone in the eye is far more dangerous than spitting in someone's face. But being the one that escalated the situation, I suppose Rondo deserved the extra game, even if Paul's 'eye-poke' was easily worse than anything Rondo did.

I do think Ingram got off light, though.  That running sucker punch was totally unacceptable.

All of that said, though, one of these days Chris Paul is going to get his comeuppance.  This is the same guy that orchestrated the backdoor 'break in' into the Clippers lockeroom last year. Try poking me in the eye and you're not going to get that finger back attached to your hand.  Chris Paul is a piece of fecal matter.

I think Ingram should have gotten a few more games.  He was completely out of the fight and then ran back in firing off punches.

I think Rondo and CP3's suspensions should be equal.  Trying to poke someones eye out is worse than spitting, and the spitting itself seems kinda iffy.   I know there is the video where you can see moisture, but cmon.  But Rondo has a bad rep and CP3 is the poster boy so no matter what actually happened Rondo was going to take a bigger hit.   

I personally agree with your last statement about CP 100%.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: gouki88 on October 21, 2018, 11:06:40 PM
Bron is going to have to step up to make up for Rondos assists and BI s points.   

Bron is mad he hates having to play hard and expend energy .

It's comical watching him not play defense.
I think he’s actually lazier on defence than Harden now. Crazy how the media doesn’t call it
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 21, 2018, 11:42:18 PM
Bron is going to have to step up to make up for Rondos assists and BI s points.   

Bron is mad he hates having to play hard and expend energy .

It's comical watching him not play defense.

Its amazing to see him standing around watching the game .  He really is a slacker .  He ll watch about three plays , ulless the ball comes near him ......save up his energy and then Bully ball a layup down the paint.   Like a halfback resting up a couple downs .  He should be playing twice as hard as everybody else for the amou t of money he makes. He plays when its convenient to do so....or an important play that only his divaness can do, ::)
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on October 22, 2018, 04:01:12 AM
I'm very skeptical of the video showing Rondo spit. Has anyone tried spitting with a mouth guard on? It is quite difficult to do in the way its shown in the video.

But OK, let's go with it. Let's say he meant it. Has anyone here been spat on before? I've got to be honest, my first reaction wouldn't be to poke someone in the eye, that's a real childish reaction. It's also not a good look for the President of the Players Association.

Ingram coming over the top like that is way out of line, that should have been punished far more severely. The most dangerous punches are the ones you don't see coming. And he had a massive run up.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 22, 2018, 07:16:45 AM
Bron is going to have to step up to make up for Rondos assists and BI s points.   

Bron is mad he hates having to play hard and expend energy .

It's comical watching him not play defense.
I think he’s actually lazier on defence than Harden now. Crazy how the media doesn’t call it

media is control by the dollar , reporters tow the corporate line or get fired,   you don't kick the money cow.   
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: cman88 on October 22, 2018, 07:25:51 AM
I hope these two teams play eachother in the playoffs...cant say I like anyone on either team.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: rondofan1255 on October 23, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
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Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: gouki88 on October 23, 2018, 05:40:20 PM
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Love this, lol. CP3 is a piece of garbage
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: Roy H. on October 23, 2018, 06:03:23 PM
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So was Rondo, depending upon the player.

It really doesn’t matter who the better teammate is. Both acted badly.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on October 23, 2018, 06:09:02 PM
Chris Paul is a great player and a future HOFer.

I doubt that he is as bad as some say.

The media is driving this false narrative about Rajon Rondo being the bad guy - even some posters HERE have did this, too - for various reasons.

This is their choice, their right.

Rajon Rondo will ALWAYS be a Celtic to ME. The things he did in Green...the memories...I cannot (and WILL not) simply wish them away since he's now wearing Lakers purple and gold.

At Rondo's Prime - it was heavily rumored that Danny would trade him for Chris Paul - straight up. This was even considering how at the time Chris Paul was viewed as a better shooter than Rondo.

Rondo was THAT GOOD. He still EVEN NOW flashes this talent. Ask Isaiah Thomas in the 2016-17 Playoffs versus CHI.

Rondo would've retired a Celtic - if Danny would've let him. Chris Paul? Well.......

http://www.espn.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/7297944/new-orleans-hornets-chris-paul-sign-boston-celtics-dealt-source-says

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All of the chatter about Boston's interest in Chris Paul is a moot point because the All-Star point guard will not sign a long-term contract extension with the Celtics, according to a person close to the situation.

There you are.

I hope that both Rajon AND CP3 can put this stuff behind them - and I also hope that LeBron James can choose his TEAM. The optics behind him pulling away CP3 did NOT look good - even if he meant nothing behind it.

I believe he did not.

In any event The Los Angeles Lakers have one of the last TRUE competitors left in the NBA. Rajon Rondo will lay it on the line for LA and make his teammates smarter and better.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: hodgy03038 on October 23, 2018, 06:21:17 PM
What I don't get is all the love and forgiveness "from the NBA" for CP3. He always has been kind of dirty. Last year he wanted to go through the secret hallway to the Clippers locker room to fight. I don't think anything came of that. Just because he's a banana boat member and a Lebron buddy he gets away with everything.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: gouki88 on October 23, 2018, 06:23:05 PM
What I don't get is all the love and forgiveness "from the NBA" for CP3. He always has been kind of dirty. Last year he wanted to go through the secret hallway to the Clippers locker room to fight. I don't think anything came of that. Just because he's a banana boat member and a Lebron buddy he gets away with everything.
I think it's because of his Players Association action. Not that I agree with it being an excuse, but heaps of players and media members seem to overlook him being a jerk because of that
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: CelticsElite on October 24, 2018, 04:09:19 PM
Rondo:

“Everybody wants to believe Chris Paul is good guy... he’s a horrible teammate”

Ryan Hollins and Big Baby have agreed
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: SparzWizard on October 24, 2018, 04:32:25 PM
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So was Rondo, depending upon the player.

It really doesn’t matter who the better teammate is. Both acted badly.

One of the main reasons why Ray Allen pulled himself out of that organization. Didn't want to continue playing with Rondo.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: Surferdad on October 24, 2018, 07:03:45 PM
What I don't get is all the love and forgiveness "from the NBA" for CP3. He always has been kind of dirty. Last year he wanted to go through the secret hallway to the Clippers locker room to fight. I don't think anything came of that. Just because he's a banana boat member and a Lebron buddy he gets away with everything.
I had avoided it, but finally decided to watch the clip.

Chris Paul looked like the worst offender with the fingers in Rondo’s eyes.  There’s no excuse for that coming from a vet and Player’s Association leader.  Ingram’s shove of Harden was unacceptable but at leasst he has the “excuse” of immaturity.  Not sure what Rondo did wrong.  His punches were provoked by Paul sticking his fingers in his eyes.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: moiso on October 24, 2018, 07:22:31 PM
What I don't get is all the love and forgiveness "from the NBA" for CP3. He always has been kind of dirty. Last year he wanted to go through the secret hallway to the Clippers locker room to fight. I don't think anything came of that. Just because he's a banana boat member and a Lebron buddy he gets away with everything.
I had avoided it, but finally decided to watch the clip.

Chris Paul looked like the worst offender with the fingers in Rondo’s eyes.  There’s no excuse for that coming from a vet and Player’s Association leader.  Ingram’s shove of Harden was unacceptable but at leasst he has the “excuse” of immaturity.  Not sure what Rondo did wrong.  His punches were provoked by Paul sticking his fingers in his eyes.
You didn’t see the spitting part? 
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on October 24, 2018, 07:50:47 PM
*sippin*

that dude LUKA ballin!!
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: celts10 on October 26, 2018, 07:21:14 PM
It was heavily rumored that Danny would trade him for Chris Paul - straight up.

http://www.espn.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/7297944/new-orleans-hornets-chris-paul-sign-boston-celtics-dealt-source-says

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All of the chatter about Boston's interest in Chris Paul is a moot point because the All-Star point guard will not sign a long-term contract extension with the Celtics, according to a person close to the situation.

There you are.

Good find there, GreenFaith. I often think Danny's swap of Big Baby for Brandon Bass at the time was an effort to help lure Paul here -- considering the fact that CP3 and Bass are close friends. In addition, if we had landed David West (another one of Paul's ex-Hornets teammates) then CP3 surely would have given Boston some serious thought. Unfortunately, West never happened since KG was playing forward at the time. KG eventually ended up moving to the center spot during the midpoint of the season anyway, so here's a nice little historical revision...

C Garnett/Hollins
PF West/Bass
SF Pierce/Pietrus
SG Allen/Bradley
PG Paul/Dooling

Would have been a nice unit.
Title: Re: Rondo/Paul/Ingram - HOU/LAL Brawl - (All 3 suspended w/out pay)
Post by: Moranis on October 26, 2018, 10:44:42 PM
I don't understand why Chris Paul wouldn't have signed an extension in Boston, but was more than willing to do so on the Clippers.  It just never made any sense to me.