Danny Ainge Ready To Trade Rondo?

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That is, we were constantly losing guys who were counted on to be numbers 6-9 in the rotation.   Powe got injured.  Scal got injured.  Shaq and JO were brought in to give Perkins time to heal -- only they got injured.   Delonte' was brought back to provide depth (and rest) behind Rondo -- only he got injured and missed most of a year.   Big Baby stupidly hurt his hand punching some dude.  Semih Erden played well off the bench ... and got injured.  Marquis was brought in to provide depth behind Pierce -- and got injured.   Nate got injured.   Krstic came over in the Perkins trade and played well - then got injured.   Then we lost him to Russia during the stupid lockout.  Jeff Green and Chris Wilcox each had to have their chest's ripped open and their hearts operated on!!!  Stiemsma emerged as rotation big supporting KG -- and got injured.   Bradley emerges in the second half of his 2nd year as a legit rotation/starter -- and gets injured.  Barbosa.  Pietrus.

Some of these were expected, put out a team of old guys and this is what you get on some of the veterans.

Still, may Ray has been there too long and we need a new trainer.

Except, most of those injuries were to _young_ players, not "old guys".

I don't think the training staff had anything to do with Glen Davis' hurting his hand throwing a punch.  Or Delonte' landing on his wrist after leaping through the air.  Or Jeff Green or Chris Wilcox' heart issues.  Or Andrew Bynum landing on top of Perk's shoulders (causing his knee to buckle).  Or DWade's take-down of Rondo.  Or Michael Pietrus landing hard on his back after flying through the air on a play.

Why do folks always need to blame someone?  Life is full of random things and some things you just can't control.

Injuries happen in sports all the time and should never be used as an excuse or a crutch.

The idea is to avoid letting injuries negatively affect your team by providing your team with the most depth possible.

What separates good teams from bad teams is not just star players but also the respective team's front office, who has the foresight to expect such things and plan for them.

No one is making excuses.  An excuse is a note from your mother that lets you go home from school early.

Injuries happen.  To pretend they don't or that they don't decide the fates of teams in this league is a silly notion.

The last two finals have matched up the two teams that each managed to avoid significant injury to their main rotation players.   None of the other teams managed that.

A GM can assemble all the quality and amount of depth possible, but if someone breaks a wrist, then someone breaks a wrist and there is nothing the GM can do about it.

That's not an excuse.  That's just reality.

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Why do folks always need to blame someone?  Life is full of random things and some things you just can't control.

Because sometimes repeating incidents could mean a pattern.

Last year, I saw Sully play with a serious lack of conditioning and lots of extra weight  and if anything the Strength and conditioning coach/trainer  should be given a long look.

Old guys you expect a higher chance of injury.   Maybe our guys do not all stretch like they should,  who knows.  When your playing a sport professionally, you look for every edge and the team should be looking for every edge too.

What part of my message that pointed out that the vast majority of injuries (a) had nothing to do with conditioning and (b) happened mainly to younger players did you not understand?

You are trying to create a narrative that just didn't actually happen.

[Celtics4ever]

The last two finals have matched up the two teams that each managed to avoid significant injury to their main rotation players.   None of the other teams managed that.

You lost all credibility here, bud.  Wade was resting a lot and only played 54 games last year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10329719/lebron-james-says-tough-miami-heat-fill-void-dwyane-wade-out

In the 2013-2014 season, Wade played in 54 games due to injury and the team's decision to rest him during back-to-back games. Wade averaged 19 points per game and posted a career high 54 percent field goal percentage, and had notable games in victories against elite teams such as a 32 point outing against the Pacers on November 7th and 29 points against the Los Angeles Clippers on December 18th. In the playoffs, the team increased Wade's minutes per game, noted by a 28 point performance in the closing game of Miami's second round victory over the Brooklyn Nets and a 23 point outing in a crucial game 2 road victory against Indiana in the Eastern Finals. The Heat would go on to win the series in six games, advancing to their fourth straight NBA Finals. Wade averaged 19.1 points a game during the playoffs on 52 percent shooting, his best percentage in a playoff run since 2010. The Heat would once again face the San Antonio Spurs in the 2014 NBA Finals. However, they would lose in five games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwyane_Wade#Post_Big_3_era_.282014.E2.80.93present.29

Wade was a key rotational player for the HEAT usually.  Looks like someone put out a false narrative?

[BballTim]

The last two finals have matched up the two teams that each managed to avoid significant injury to their main rotation players.   None of the other teams managed that.

You lost all credibility here, bud.  Wade was resting a lot and only played 54 games last year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10329719/lebron-james-says-tough-miami-heat-fill-void-dwyane-wade-out

In the 2013-2014 season, Wade played in 54 games due to injury and the team's decision to rest him during back-to-back games. Wade averaged 19 points per game and posted a career high 54 percent field goal percentage, and had notable games in victories against elite teams such as a 32 point outing against the Pacers on November 7th and 29 points against the Los Angeles Clippers on December 18th. In the playoffs, the team increased Wade's minutes per game, noted by a 28 point performance in the closing game of Miami's second round victory over the Brooklyn Nets and a 23 point outing in a crucial game 2 road victory against Indiana in the Eastern Finals. The Heat would go on to win the series in six games, advancing to their fourth straight NBA Finals. Wade averaged 19.1 points a game during the playoffs on 52 percent shooting, his best percentage in a playoff run since 2010. The Heat would once again face the San Antonio Spurs in the 2014 NBA Finals. However, they would lose in five games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwyane_Wade#Post_Big_3_era_.282014.E2.80.93present.29

Wade was a key rotational player for the HEAT usually.  Looks like someone put out a false narrative?

  Resting isn't really a significant injury.

[Celtics4ever]

Resting isn't really a significant injury.

He was resting because of an injury.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10329719/lebron-james-says-tough-miami-heat-fill-void-dwyane-wade-out

If you had read the link posted above, you'd seen he had persistent knee soreness.  Since your mouse hand  must be injured  and it's obvious you could not click it, I'll post it here.

MIAMI -- LeBron James believes the Miami Heat might have to alter their preparations if teammate Dwyane Wade continues to miss games as he deals with persistent knee soreness.

Wade missed his third straight game, his longest consecutive stretch of the season, Tuesday night against Boston with what the team continues to say is general soreness and part of a proactive maintenance program. Wade has missed 12 of 42 games so far and has had issues with both knees in recent years.

But Wade's current stretch of absences has been related to an ongoing recovery process from his offseason shock-wave therapy treatment on his right kneecap, which was bruised last spring and hampered him throughout the Heat's run to a second straight championship.

They don't just rest guys that many games for the heck of it.   Be it tendinitis,  chronic overuse there is an underlying reason.

So much for rest only theory....

[BballTim]

Resting isn't really a significant injury.

He was resting because of an injury.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10329719/lebron-james-says-tough-miami-heat-fill-void-dwyane-wade-out

If you had read the link posted above, you'd seen he had persistent knee soreness.  Since your mouse hand  must be injured  and it's obvious you could not click it, I'll post it here.

  I know, I can't believe I had the audacity to join a thread where you'd deigned to reference a story and *not* clicked on the link. I hope you can forgive me, after you get over yourself that is.

They don't just rest guys that many games for the heck of it.   Be it tendinitis,  chronic overuse there is an underlying reason.

  Nobody said he was perfectly healthy all season. Whether lingering soreness constitutes a significant injury depends on your definition of a serious injury.

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The last two finals have matched up the two teams that each managed to avoid significant injury to their main rotation players.   None of the other teams managed that.

You lost all credibility here, bud.  Wade was resting a lot and only played 54 games last year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10329719/lebron-james-says-tough-miami-heat-fill-void-dwyane-wade-out

In the 2013-2014 season, Wade played in 54 games due to injury and the team's decision to rest him during back-to-back games. Wade averaged 19 points per game and posted a career high 54 percent field goal percentage, and had notable games in victories against elite teams such as a 32 point outing against the Pacers on November 7th and 29 points against the Los Angeles Clippers on December 18th. In the playoffs, the team increased Wade's minutes per game, noted by a 28 point performance in the closing game of Miami's second round victory over the Brooklyn Nets and a 23 point outing in a crucial game 2 road victory against Indiana in the Eastern Finals. The Heat would go on to win the series in six games, advancing to their fourth straight NBA Finals. Wade averaged 19.1 points a game during the playoffs on 52 percent shooting, his best percentage in a playoff run since 2010. The Heat would once again face the San Antonio Spurs in the 2014 NBA Finals. However, they would lose in five games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwyane_Wade#Post_Big_3_era_.282014.E2.80.93present.29

Wade was a key rotational player for the HEAT usually.  Looks like someone put out a false narrative?

Compared to what happened to the other top playoff contenders, limiting Wade's minutes during the regular season (in a year when the Eastern Conference offered almost no resistance to Miami's return to the NBA finals) was pretty insignificant.  Especially compared to the injuries impacting most of the other top title contenders this last couple of seasons -- especially in the 2013 playoffs.

When he DID play, Wade was actually very effective this last year, posting a .149 WS/48 rate and a 55.1% eFG.   And most critically -- which is alluded to in the very text you quoted -- he was pretty much NOT minute-limited for the playoffs.  He played in all 20 of their games, averaging 34.7 mpg.