Ainge Knows Something We Don’t...

[dreamgreen]

People holding out for KI to resign are truly fooling themselves. That flat worlder is gone!! Horford wouldn't have put himself in the situation he's in either if KI was coming back. They are both gone get your heads out of Never Never land back to reality!!

[tstorey_97]

So Ainge and Wyc seem pretty cool considering the circumstances. Ainge even stated he knows something we don’t. What if it’s this:

1) Trade in the works to move Brown and Yabu for a future first-round pick

2) Waive the rights to Rozier.

Result: Ainge has removed the two young players who may have been the root cause of the locker room frustrations this year. In the process, we have about $42 million in cap space.

3) Sign KD to a super-max.

4) Re-sign Kyrie to a super-max with Bird Rights.

Result: KD is given a commitment and we continue to commit to Hayward, rehabilitating our image following IT. KD has access to Mass General and Harvard for his rehab. KD now can build his own legacy and join Celtics lore, something he may regret not pursuing in 1016. We now officially have two top ten superstars for 2020-2021, potentially three if Tatum grows in 2019-2020.

5) Re-sign Morris as our sixth man.

6) Use MLE on a traditional center.

7) Sign ring-chasing vets to minimum contracts.

Hand the keys to Kyrie and let Tatum and Hayward continue to improve. Head into 2020-2021 with the following:

Kyrie
Tatum
Hayward
KD
MLE center who can rebound/defend

Depth: Smart, Morris, Williams, 2019 rookies, 2020 rookie(s), ring-chasing vets

Celtics Vs. Lakers in June 2021!

Trade Jaylen, bring back Kyrie sign KD and his achilles to a super max and bring Morris back - I think I need to vomit.

Maybe take a second rounder for Brown if he agrees to leave an Achilles behind for KD to use next season?

This has gotten ridiculous.

Just how is Ainge going to "get a second rounder for Brown" if he only has one Achilles? Sure enough, if the two players swap, Brown is out for the season anyways.

Durant is taller than Brown, therefore, they'd have to lengthen Brown's Achilles or shorten Durant's which is very painful (see wiki: Achilles shortening surgery), all of this Achilles swapping crap is just wrong. They tried it in the early 70's and it was a disaster.

Just cut it out.

[Celtics4ever]

I do think Ainge has a deal in place of sorts possibly.   We will see July 1st.

[hwangjini_1]

I think Danny knows WAY more somethings than we do....

impossible

our combined blog knoweldge is at least 1000 years of basketball experience 

But Danny has actual knowledge.... 

and when did that ever matter here at CS? 

[Chief]

People holding out for KI to resign are truly fooling themselves. That flat worlder is gone!! Horford wouldn't have put himself in the situation he's in either if KI was coming back. They are both gone get your heads out of Never Never land back to reality!!

Tp

[SHAQATTACK]

I think Danny knows WAY more somethings than we do....

impossible

our combined blog knoweldge is at least 1000 years of basketball experience 

But Danny has actual knowledge.... 

and when did that ever matter here at CS? 

TP...LOL  dat funny

[pearljammer10]

The Celtics can't give KD a super-max. That is something that apparently Ainge knows that, well, SOME of us don't.

[nickagneta]

This whole, Ainge knows something we don't know, to me, signals, he has a huge trade in the works and not a free agent signing. He can't talk to any free agents other than his own, so he would be pretty stupid to hint he has tampered in any way with a current free agent.

No, Danny wouldn't say that about a possible free agent. But, a trade that can't be done until after July 1st.... that he could hint about. I am hoping he is helping out OKC by taking Adams or Schroder off their hands for nothing.

[liam]

This whole, Ainge knows something we don't know, to me, signals, he has a huge trade in the works and not a free agent signing. He can't talk to any free agents other than his own, so he would be pretty stupid to hint he has tampered in any way with a current free agent.

No, Danny wouldn't say that about a possible free agent. But, a trade that can't be done until after July 1st.... that he could hint about. I am hoping he is helping out OKC by taking Adams or Schroder off their hands for nothing.

Maybe Adams and Schroder for a signed and traded Rozier and cap space? Schroder is best case Rozier down the line anyway. Picking up Adams for nothing would be nice.

[Who]

This whole, Ainge knows something we don't know, to me, signals, he has a huge trade in the works and not a free agent signing. He can't talk to any free agents other than his own, so he would be pretty stupid to hint he has tampered in any way with a current free agent.

No, Danny wouldn't say that about a possible free agent. But, a trade that can't be done until after July 1st.... that he could hint about. I am hoping he is helping out OKC by taking Adams or Schroder off their hands for nothing.

Maybe Adams and Schroder for a signed and traded Rozier and cap space? Schroder is best case Rozier down the line anyway. Picking up Adams for nothing would be nice.

Not sure Schroder is better than Rozier.

Schroder cannot play off the ball at all. Takes too many shots and not efficient enough as a scorer to justify it. He is a dodgy outside shooter who hurts your spacing. He is only of value on offense when you let him dominate the ball but he isn't good enough offensively to justify letting him do that. 

Fairly similar defensively. Rozier big edge in rebounding. Schroder is a better creator (passing wise) than Rozier but worse at sharing the ball with his teammates because of his need to monopolize it.

Schroder is one of those good stats on bad teams guys.

Not a fan. I'd rather stay away from Schroder.

Both guys have severe limitations to their games but Rozier fits into a team concept better.

[liam]

This whole, Ainge knows something we don't know, to me, signals, he has a huge trade in the works and not a free agent signing. He can't talk to any free agents other than his own, so he would be pretty stupid to hint he has tampered in any way with a current free agent.

No, Danny wouldn't say that about a possible free agent. But, a trade that can't be done until after July 1st.... that he could hint about. I am hoping he is helping out OKC by taking Adams or Schroder off their hands for nothing.

Maybe Adams and Schroder for a signed and traded Rozier and cap space? Schroder is best case Rozier down the line anyway. Picking up Adams for nothing would be nice.

Not sure Schroder is better than Rozier.

Schroder cannot play off the ball at all. Takes too many shots and not efficient enough as a scorer to justify it. He is a dodgy outside shooter who hurts your spacing. He is only of value on offense when you let him dominate the ball but he isn't good enough offensively to justify letting him do that. 

Fairly similar defensively. Rozier big edge in rebounding. Schroder is a better creator (passing wise) than Rozier but worse at sharing the ball with his teammates because of his need to monopolize it.

Schroder is one of those good stats on bad teams guys.

Not a fan. I'd rather stay away from Schroder.

Both guys have severe limitations to their games but Rozier fits into a team concept better.

Really? OK.

[liam]

This whole, Ainge knows something we don't know, to me, signals, he has a huge trade in the works and not a free agent signing. He can't talk to any free agents other than his own, so he would be pretty stupid to hint he has tampered in any way with a current free agent.

No, Danny wouldn't say that about a possible free agent. But, a trade that can't be done until after July 1st.... that he could hint about. I am hoping he is helping out OKC by taking Adams or Schroder off their hands for nothing.

Maybe Adams and Schroder for a signed and traded Rozier and cap space? Schroder is best case Rozier down the line anyway. Picking up Adams for nothing would be nice.

Not sure Schroder is better than Rozier.

Schroder cannot play off the ball at all. Takes too many shots and not efficient enough as a scorer to justify it. He is a dodgy outside shooter who hurts your spacing. He is only of value on offense when you let him dominate the ball but he isn't good enough offensively to justify letting him do that. 

Fairly similar defensively. Rozier big edge in rebounding. Schroder is a better creator (passing wise) than Rozier but worse at sharing the ball with his teammates because of his need to monopolize it.

Schroder is one of those good stats on bad teams guys.

Not a fan. I'd rather stay away from Schroder.

Both guys have severe limitations to their games but Rozier fits into a team concept better.

Really? OK. I agree with the rebounding thing but he does that at the cost of not covering anyone on the defensive end of the floor. I think Schoder is Rozier's ceiling. Schoder is frustrating to watch, I'll give you that.

[Rosco917]

So Ainge and Wyc seem pretty cool considering the circumstances. Ainge even stated he knows something we don’t. What if it’s this:

1) Trade in the works to move Brown and Yabu for a future first-round pick

2) Waive the rights to Rozier.

Result: Ainge has removed the two young players who may have been the root cause of the locker room frustrations this year. In the process, we have about $42 million in cap space.

3) Sign KD to a super-max.

4) Re-sign Kyrie to a super-max with Bird Rights.

Result: KD is given a commitment and we continue to commit to Hayward, rehabilitating our image following IT. KD has access to Mass General and Harvard for his rehab. KD now can build his own legacy and join Celtics lore, something he may regret not pursuing in 1016. We now officially have two top ten superstars for 2020-2021, potentially three if Tatum grows in 2019-2020.

5) Re-sign Morris as our sixth man.

6) Use MLE on a traditional center.

7) Sign ring-chasing vets to minimum contracts.

Hand the keys to Kyrie and let Tatum and Hayward continue to improve. Head into 2020-2021 with the following:

Kyrie
Tatum
Hayward
KD
MLE center who can rebound/defend

Depth: Smart, Morris, Williams, 2019 rookies, 2020 rookie(s), ring-chasing vets

Celtics Vs. Lakers in June 2021!

Sounds like a video game enthusiast.

[LilRip]

So Ainge and Wyc seem pretty cool considering the circumstances. Ainge even stated he knows something we don’t. What if it’s this:

1) Trade in the works to move Brown and Yabu for a future first-round pick

2) Waive the rights to Rozier.

Result: Ainge has removed the two young players who may have been the root cause of the locker room frustrations this year. In the process, we have about $42 million in cap space.

3) Sign KD to a super-max.

4) Re-sign Kyrie to a super-max with Bird Rights.

Result: KD is given a commitment and we continue to commit to Hayward, rehabilitating our image following IT. KD has access to Mass General and Harvard for his rehab. KD now can build his own legacy and join Celtics lore, something he may regret not pursuing in 1016. We now officially have two top ten superstars for 2020-2021, potentially three if Tatum grows in 2019-2020.

5) Re-sign Morris as our sixth man.

6) Use MLE on a traditional center.

7) Sign ring-chasing vets to minimum contracts.

Hand the keys to Kyrie and let Tatum and Hayward continue to improve. Head into 2020-2021 with the following:

Kyrie
Tatum
Hayward
KD
MLE center who can rebound/defend

Depth: Smart, Morris, Williams, 2019 rookies, 2020 rookie(s), ring-chasing vets

Celtics Vs. Lakers in June 2021!

Sounds like a video game enthusiast.

Disagree. A video game won’t allow you to do this

[slamtheking]

How exactly do we sign KD and KI to both super maxes? 

🙄😒

KD gobbles up the approximately $42 mil. we have cleared. After that officially occurs, we can still sign Kyrie with Bird Rights. Don’t forget that Horford is history, so this move can occur now.

I believe we'd have to renounce Kyrie to get anywhere near that kind of cap space even after those proposed deals (that's a big assumption the C's aren't taking any salaries in return) and once Kyrie is renounced to free up that cap space, we don't have any rights to him.  he's like any other FA

With Horford, Baynes, Brown, Rozier and Yabu gone, we have $42 mil or so in cap space with the Kyrie hold in place.

uh, no.  I suspect you're arriving at that figure by adding up their contracts without accounting for how much the C's are already over the cap.  C's won't get to $42 mill under the cap without renouncing Kyrie