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Ainge Knows Something We Don’t...
« on: June 25, 2019, 02:46:47 PM »

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So Ainge and Wyc seem pretty cool considering the circumstances. Ainge even stated he knows something we don’t. What if it’s this:

1) Trade in the works to move Brown and Yabu for a future first-round pick

2) Waive the rights to Rozier.

Result: Ainge has removed the two young players who may have been the root cause of the locker room frustrations this year. In the process, we have about $42 million in cap space.

3) Sign KD to a super-max.

4) Re-sign Kyrie to a super-max with Bird Rights.

Result: KD is given a commitment and we continue to commit to Hayward, rehabilitating our image following IT. KD has access to Mass General and Harvard for his rehab. KD now can build his own legacy and join Celtics lore, something he may regret not pursuing in 1016. We now officially have two top ten superstars for 2020-2021, potentially three if Tatum grows in 2019-2020.

5) Re-sign Morris as our sixth man.

6) Use MLE on a traditional center.

7) Sign ring-chasing vets to minimum contracts.

Hand the keys to Kyrie and let Tatum and Hayward continue to improve. Head into 2020-2021 with the following:

Kyrie
Tatum
Hayward
KD
MLE center who can rebound/defend

Depth: Smart, Morris, Williams, 2019 rookies, 2020 rookie(s), ring-chasing vets

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2019, 02:49:45 PM »

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How exactly do we sign KD and KI to both super maxes? 

🙄😒
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2019, 02:51:53 PM »

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How exactly do we sign KD and KI to both super maxes? 

🙄😒

KD gobbles up the approximately $42 mil. we have cleared. After that officially occurs, we can still sign Kyrie with Bird Rights. Don’t forget that Horford is history, so this move can occur now.

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2019, 02:52:05 PM »

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I don't think that's it.

more like they have a deal in place to fill in either the center or PG position with either a trade or free agency. 

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2019, 02:53:45 PM »

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How exactly do we sign KD and KI to both super maxes? 

🙄😒

KD gobbles up the approximately $42 mil. we have cleared. After that officially occurs, we can still sign Kyrie with Bird Rights. Don’t forget that Horford is history, so this move can occur now.

Ummmm no.  We would have to rescind our rights to resign KI in order to get that cap space. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2019, 02:53:46 PM »

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How exactly do we sign KD and KI to both super maxes? 

🙄😒

KD gobbles up the approximately $42 mil. we have cleared. After that officially occurs, we can still sign Kyrie with Bird Rights. Don’t forget that Horford is history, so this move can occur now.
I believe we'd have to renounce Kyrie to get anywhere near that kind of cap space even after those proposed deals (that's a big assumption the C's aren't taking any salaries in return) and once Kyrie is renounced to free up that cap space, we don't have any rights to him.  he's like any other FA

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2019, 02:54:01 PM »

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How exactly do we sign KD and KI to both super maxes? 

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KD gobbles up the approximately $42 mil. we have cleared. After that officially occurs, we can still sign Kyrie with Bird Rights. Don’t forget that Horford is history, so this move can occur now.
This is not how the salary cap works. Kyrie's cap hold = no space until he leaves or we renounce his rights.

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2019, 02:54:19 PM »

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How exactly do we sign KD and KI to both super maxes? 

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KD gobbles up the approximately $42 mil. we have cleared. After that officially occurs, we can still sign Kyrie with Bird Rights. Don’t forget that Horford is history, so this move can occur now.

To have $42  mill in space the C's have to renounce Kyrie's Bird rights.

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2019, 02:54:46 PM »

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We would need a heck of a lot more than $42M in space to max out both of them.

They may know something we don’t, but it very well may not be good.

Of course they won’t panic publicly and they will take the high road, but things are definitely not going as planned.

Maybe something is in the works, but I doubt it’s something huge. Maybe tampering charges to get another 1st lol.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2019, 02:56:14 PM »

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How exactly do we sign KD and KI to both super maxes? 

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KD gobbles up the approximately $42 mil. we have cleared. After that officially occurs, we can still sign Kyrie with Bird Rights. Don’t forget that Horford is history, so this move can occur now.
I believe we'd have to renounce Kyrie to get anywhere near that kind of cap space even after those proposed deals (that's a big assumption the C's aren't taking any salaries in return) and once Kyrie is renounced to free up that cap space, we don't have any rights to him.  he's like any other FA

With Horford, Baynes, Brown, Rozier and Yabu gone, we have $42 mil or so in cap space with the Kyrie hold in place.

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2019, 02:57:35 PM »

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Absorb Steven Adams into cap space.

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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2019, 03:09:33 PM »

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you have to renounce all of the FA's, like morris to free up any of that space.  Hortford alone only frees up 7-8M in reality because they are over the cap currently.  KD and KI both are not eligible for SuperMAX anyhow as they are not with the original team that drafted them.

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2019, 03:17:11 PM »

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So Ainge and Wyc seem pretty cool considering the circumstances. Ainge even stated he knows something we don’t. What if it’s this:

1) Trade in the works to move Brown and Yabu for a future first-round pick

2) Waive the rights to Rozier.

Result: Ainge has removed the two young players who may have been the root cause of the locker room frustrations this year. In the process, we have about $42 million in cap space.

3) Sign KD to a super-max.

4) Re-sign Kyrie to a super-max with Bird Rights.

Result: KD is given a commitment and we continue to commit to Hayward, rehabilitating our image following IT. KD has access to Mass General and Harvard for his rehab. KD now can build his own legacy and join Celtics lore, something he may regret not pursuing in 1016. We now officially have two top ten superstars for 2020-2021, potentially three if Tatum grows in 2019-2020.

5) Re-sign Morris as our sixth man.

6) Use MLE on a traditional center.

7) Sign ring-chasing vets to minimum contracts.

Hand the keys to Kyrie and let Tatum and Hayward continue to improve. Head into 2020-2021 with the following:

Kyrie
Tatum
Hayward
KD
MLE center who can rebound/defend

Depth: Smart, Morris, Williams, 2019 rookies, 2020 rookie(s), ring-chasing vets

Celtics Vs. Lakers in June 2021!

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2019, 03:19:05 PM »

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I think Danny knows WAY more somethings than we do....

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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2019, 03:20:59 PM »

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How exactly do we sign KD and KI to both super maxes? 

🙄😒

KD gobbles up the approximately $42 mil. we have cleared. After that officially occurs, we can still sign Kyrie with Bird Rights. Don’t forget that Horford is history, so this move can occur now.
I believe we'd have to renounce Kyrie to get anywhere near that kind of cap space even after those proposed deals (that's a big assumption the C's aren't taking any salaries in return) and once Kyrie is renounced to free up that cap space, we don't have any rights to him.  he's like any other FA

With Horford, Baynes, Brown, Rozier and Yabu gone, we have $42 mil or so in cap space with the Kyrie hold in place.
Kyrie's cap hold is 30 million dollars.

Your math is very wrong.

With Kyrie, Horford, Baynes, Rozier, Morris, and Theis gone we have 35 million or so in room. Brown and Yabu combined make about 9.6 million. So we have 44 million in room.

Add back in Kyrie's cap hold of thirty million and we have 14 million in cap room. KD is not signing for 14 million.