Idea: Trade to Reduce Roster Crunch and Add Long-term Value

[number_n9ne]

Morris is the odd man out and he said it himself. I'm for moving him if everyone is coming back healthy for the start of the season. Additionally, Nader needs to go to sign Bird. I think a trade of Morris and Nader to MIN for the rights to Keita Bates-Diop and the MIA 2019 2nd would make sense for both sides. C's need cap and roster space but don't want to move Morris for nothing. Bates-Diop is an interesting wing prospect that could either sign a 2-way or a rookie minimum (not sure if MIN had signed him yet.) Thibs needs a veteran wing and doesn't have the cap space to go out and sign one, getting Morris on his steal of a contact would be huge for their team.

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Horford
Rozier/Smart/Ojeleye/Theis/Baynes
Wanamaker/Bird/Bates-Diop/Yabusele/Williams

Or Allen/Bates-Diop on the Red Claws and C's keep a roster spot open.

[kraidstar]

I agree dumping Morris would be good for our cap health.

We should be able to get a late first for him tho IMO. He's a bargain contract and plays great D against LeBron. Some playoff team should want him.

Toronto in particular has TWO trade exceptions which could fit Morris. And they desperately need wing help, especially against LeBron.

Portland also has one, as does Cleveland.

Minnesota, Utah, Indiana, and Philly could all likely fit him into cap space as well.

[Androslav]

I agree dumping Morris would be good for our cap health.

We should be able to get a late first for him tho IMO. He's a bargain contract and plays great D against LeBron. Some playoff team should want him.

Toronto in particular has TWO trade exceptions which could fit Morris. And they desperately need wing help, especially against LeBron.

Portland also has one, as does Cleveland.

Minnesota, Utah, Indiana, and Philly could all likely fit him into cap space as well.

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That time has passed.

[Csfan1984]

I'd wait to see what happens with Smart before moving Morris. If Smart resigns for more than a year I'd even move Rozier and Morris. All depends on what happens. If Smart stays on QO I'd only move Morris.

[smokeablount]

Yeah, Morris played well for us this year and gave us some great memories, but it's time for both parties to move on.  He won't get the minutes he deserves here, and he does deserve minutes.  And we need to delay the tax, and try to retain both Smart & Baynes.

With how stingy the league has been with 1st rounders I'm not sure what to expect for him, but the proposed deal of Morris and Nader for KBD and really any 2nd from Minny sounds good.

[BitterJim]

Trading Morris and only getting back the 48th pick in the draft would be a poor return

[smokeablount]

Trading Morris and only getting back the 48th pick in the draft would be a poor return

Yeah, agreed, but is this really about the direct return? 

Isn't it more like we'd get Smart and #48 for Morris, or the ability to delay the tax a year + #48, giving us an extra year as a superteam after GSW will have almost certainly dissolved?

I would certainly like more than the #48 pick, but I'm not sure we can bank on that.

This reminds me more of the AB trade last year where we got Morris.  I was pretty bullish on that, creating a thread about how the trade was better than it looked.  Could this be similar?

[gouki88]

Trading Morris and only getting back the 48th pick in the draft would be a poor return

Yeah, agreed, but is this really about the direct return? 

Isn't it more like we'd get Smart and #48 for Morris, or the ability to delay the tax a year + #48, giving us an extra year as a superteam after GSW will have almost certainly dissolved?

I would certainly like more than the #48 pick, but I'm not sure we can bank on that.

This reminds me more of the AB trade last year where we got Morris.  I was pretty bullish on that, creating a thread about how the trade was better than it looked.  Could this be similar?

Plus, KBD is actually a really solid player. An absolute steal at #48. I would be happy to get him, as he would likely be better than most second rounders

[smokeablount]

Trading Morris and only getting back the 48th pick in the draft would be a poor return

Yeah, agreed, but is this really about the direct return? 

Isn't it more like we'd get Smart and #48 for Morris, or the ability to delay the tax a year + #48, giving us an extra year as a superteam after GSW will have almost certainly dissolved?

I would certainly like more than the #48 pick, but I'm not sure we can bank on that.

This reminds me more of the AB trade last year where we got Morris.  I was pretty bullish on that, creating a thread about how the trade was better than it looked.  Could this be similar?

Plus, KBD is actually a really solid player. An absolute steal at #48. I would be happy to get him, as he would likely be better than most second rounders

That’s what I hear. I’ve never seen, but multiple posters I trust wanted him in the mix at #27 and thought he could contribute up to 10-15 minutes a game this year.

[gouki88]

Trading Morris and only getting back the 48th pick in the draft would be a poor return

Yeah, agreed, but is this really about the direct return? 

Isn't it more like we'd get Smart and #48 for Morris, or the ability to delay the tax a year + #48, giving us an extra year as a superteam after GSW will have almost certainly dissolved?

I would certainly like more than the #48 pick, but I'm not sure we can bank on that.

This reminds me more of the AB trade last year where we got Morris.  I was pretty bullish on that, creating a thread about how the trade was better than it looked.  Could this be similar?

Plus, KBD is actually a really solid player. An absolute steal at #48. I would be happy to get him, as he would likely be better than most second rounders

That’s what I hear. I’ve never seen, but multiple posters I trust wanted him in the mix at #27 and thought he could contribute up to 10-15 minutes a game this year.

Yeah, I could have pictured that easily. I doubt many foresaw Williams falling to us though.

But the guy was the Big Ten POY averaging almost 20/9 with solid defence. Really good pickup at #48

[number_n9ne]

Trading Morris and only getting back the 48th pick in the draft would be a poor return

Yeah, agreed, but is this really about the direct return? 

Isn't it more like we'd get Smart and #48 for Morris, or the ability to delay the tax a year + #48, giving us an extra year as a superteam after GSW will have almost certainly dissolved?

I would certainly like more than the #48 pick, but I'm not sure we can bank on that.

This reminds me more of the AB trade last year where we got Morris.  I was pretty bullish on that, creating a thread about how the trade was better than it looked.  Could this be similar?

Plus, KBD is actually a really solid player. An absolute steal at #48. I would be happy to get him, as he would likely be better than most second rounders

That’s what I hear. I’ve never seen, but multiple posters I trust wanted him in the mix at #27 and thought he could contribute up to 10-15 minutes a game this year.

Yeah, I could have pictured that easily. I doubt many foresaw Williams falling to us though.

But the guy was the Big Ten POY averaging almost 20/9 with solid defence. Really good pickup at #48

KBD being picked at 48 is why I targeted MIN in this deal. I feel like him and another 2nd is good trade value for Morris. We aren't going to get a first for his expiring, but targeting a player who was just drafted and projected as a first rounder would be good compensation especially with another asset.

[smokeablount]

Trading Morris and only getting back the 48th pick in the draft would be a poor return

Yeah, agreed, but is this really about the direct return? 

Isn't it more like we'd get Smart and #48 for Morris, or the ability to delay the tax a year + #48, giving us an extra year as a superteam after GSW will have almost certainly dissolved?

I would certainly like more than the #48 pick, but I'm not sure we can bank on that.

This reminds me more of the AB trade last year where we got Morris.  I was pretty bullish on that, creating a thread about how the trade was better than it looked.  Could this be similar?

Plus, KBD is actually a really solid player. An absolute steal at #48. I would be happy to get him, as he would likely be better than most second rounders

That’s what I hear. I’ve never seen, but multiple posters I trust wanted him in the mix at #27 and thought he could contribute up to 10-15 minutes a game this year.

Yeah, I could have pictured that easily. I doubt many foresaw Williams falling to us though.

But the guy was the Big Ten POY averaging almost 20/9 with solid defence. Really good pickup at #48

KBD being picked at 48 is why I targeted MIN in this deal. I feel like him and another 2nd is good trade value for Morris. We aren't going to get a first for his expiring, but targeting a player who was just drafted and projected as a first rounder would be good compensation especially with another asset.

I think it's a good deal, honestly.  And more impressive, it kind of makes sense for Minny too. 

Perhaps it's time to start hitting up Chipotles near Celtics offices, and give DA the good word.

[colincb]

I think C's will be giving up something to move Morris in a salary dump. Don't think GMs are asking about his availability. Useful enough in the right situation, but JAG.

[JBcat]

I might be in the minority but I think we can get a lottery protected first similar to the Clipper’s pick.  Morris can put up 20 on an given night, and plays solid D.  That’s not a common find after the lottery.  He’s on a 1 year deal, but on a great contract.

A very good site called Boston Sports journal recently had an article on projected trade value of players on the team by asking people around the league.  They felt his value is in the 16 to 24 range of the first round.