Clippers (30-26) at Celtics (35-20) Game #56 2/9/19

[tenn_smoothie]

This season has been brutal.

This team has serious chemistry problems, playing styles that clash and players that do not like playing together, plus a weak coach.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Stevens post game: the better team won....

More like the better coach won, because Brad is simply incapable of doing anything to get this team where it needs to be.

And I suppose he was a great coach in the first half? Man, you get on this hobby-horse whenever we lose a game. It's really frustrating watching these guys lose, but there are a ton of reasons why it happened.

Irving's injury.
Horford's ineffectiveness.
Rozier's inability to run an offense.
Hayward's inconsistency.
Terrible communication on defense.

A coach can only do so much. When fans see their team melting down, especially fans with a bit of knowledge about the game, they hone all of their focus onto one scapegoat.

How many timeouts can Brad call? How many subs can he try? At some point these grown men need to motivate themselves.

Teams need rozier gone.
Needs a center that can run.
Need a consistantly semi-productive hayward

Both could have been had at the deadline.

Both werent.

This is as muxh on danny as anything.

A buyout can help our big men, but Baynes' injury is the really big problem. We stink without him

I'm a big fan of Baynes and agree that he's important to the team, but this team's problems go WAYYY beyond his absence. These guys straight-up stink right now.

[Fierce1]

How anyone can ignore the this team's front runner mentality and completely lack of effort in games like this is beyond me.

Ainge seriously needs to consider finding a new coach of Brad can no longer get through to these guys.  Poor effort is a direct indictment of poor coaching.

TP. People don't want to admit the obvious problem is Brad and the coaching staff simply not getting through to the guys, likely because before this year he was thought of as a major advantage for us. The coaching staff just doesn't have the tough character needed to manage this level of talent and take the team to the next level.

Same case can be made for Doc Rivers when he was coaching the Celts before KG and Ray joined Pierce in 2007.

Celts fans also wanted Doc fired before the magical 2007-08 season.

The problem with the Celts right now is they don't have the right mix of players.
All the Celts do is shoot 3-pointers.
That's why the Celts were leading big in the 1st half.
When the 3s were not falling in the 2nd half, Celts lost the lead and eventually lost the game.

What the Celts need is diversity on offense.
That's why Ainge is going after Anthony Davis.
Davis will provide that inside presence the Celts have been lacking since KG left in 2013.

Inside-outside basketball.
That's what the Celts need.

When the 3s are not falling, go inside.

In this game, the Clipper bigs did a good job defending the paint.
Tatum and Brown didn't have success against the Clipper bigs.

I think we have to wait until Brad gets that star big man before we can say the problem is the coach.

Remember, Doc Rivers suddenly became a genius after the Celts won a championship in 2008.

[satch]

If this is not a wake up call then there never will be one.

[radiohead]

Brad is good at coaching underdogs/under achievers. After that epic playoff run by the kids last year, it seems that the team has developed a sense of entitlement. They just don’t play as hard this year, and it gives me the idea that Brad just couldn’t get through the players’ individual egos as he did last year when they were basically “no names”. As if the Lakers loss wasn’t embarrasing enough, they come in next game and lose a bigger lead (28 pts) to a less superior team that lost almost half its players at the trade deadline. This Celtics team has a big problem right now.

[Ogaju]

How anyone can ignore the this team's front runner mentality and completely lack of effort in games like this is beyond me.

Ainge seriously needs to consider finding a new coach of Brad can no longer get through to these guys.  Poor effort is a direct indictment of poor coaching.

TP. People don't want to admit the obvious problem is Brad and the coaching staff simply not getting through to the guys, likely because before this year he was thought of as a major advantage for us. The coaching staff just doesn't have the tough character needed to manage this level of talent and take the team to the next level.

He's not the obvious problem. That's why we don't want to admit it. It's not about a lovefest for Stevens. It's about an unwillingness to mobstorm the garden and demand Stevens be fired, largely because we see other more glaring issues than Brad Stevens.

Direct your impotent criticisms elsewhere. Before focusing your rage on one thing, realize you are oversimplifying the issue and trying to make Stevens the sacrificial scapegoat.

at some point you have  to hold the coach responsible for  the team.

[Silky]

How anyone can ignore the this team's front runner mentality and completely lack of effort in games like this is beyond me.

Ainge seriously needs to consider finding a new coach of Brad can no longer get through to these guys.  Poor effort is a direct indictment of poor coaching.

TP. People don't want to admit the obvious problem is Brad and the coaching staff simply not getting through to the guys, likely because before this year he was thought of as a major advantage for us. The coaching staff just doesn't have the tough character needed to manage this level of talent and take the team to the next level.

Same case can be made for Doc Rivers when he was coaching the Celts before KG and Ray joined Pierce in 2007.

Celts fans also wanted Doc fired before the magical 2007-08 season.

The problem with the Celts right now is they don't have the right mix of players.
All the Celts do is shoot 3-pointers.
That's why the Celts were leading big in the 1st half.
When the 3s were not falling in the 2nd half, Celts lost the lead and eventually lost the game.

What the Celts need is diversity on offense.
That's why Ainge is going after Anthony Davis.
Davis will provide that inside presence the Celts have been lacking since KG left in 2013.

Inside-outside basketball.
That's what the Celts need.

When the 3s are not falling, go inside.

In this game, the Clipper bigs did a good job defending the paint.
Tatum and Brown didn't have success against the Clipper bigs.

I think we have to wait until Brad gets that star big man before we can say the problem is the coach.

Remember, Doc Rivers suddenly became a genius after the Celts won a championship in 2008.

There arr far cheaper otions than davis for inside scoring

[SparzWizard]

How anyone can ignore the this team's front runner mentality and completely lack of effort in games like this is beyond me.

Ainge seriously needs to consider finding a new coach of Brad can no longer get through to these guys.  Poor effort is a direct indictment of poor coaching.

TP. People don't want to admit the obvious problem is Brad and the coaching staff simply not getting through to the guys, likely because before this year he was thought of as a major advantage for us. The coaching staff just doesn't have the tough character needed to manage this level of talent and take the team to the next level.

He's not the obvious problem. That's why we don't want to admit it. It's not about a lovefest for Stevens. It's about an unwillingness to mobstorm the garden and demand Stevens be fired, largely because we see other more glaring issues than Brad Stevens.

Direct your impotent criticisms elsewhere. Before focusing your rage on one thing, realize you are oversimplifying the issue and trying to make Stevens the sacrificial scapegoat.

By having his players hover around the 3-point line to take a large quantity of 3's every game? Not regrouping the team when a lead looks like it is being blown or the enemy is making a run? Not getting interior presence from the market because that big man can't shoot 3s? Allowing opposing teams to put up 120 points at the Garden or elsewhere?

[gouki88]

Stevens post game: the better team won....

More like the better coach won, because Brad is simply incapable of doing anything to get this team where it needs to be.

And I suppose he was a great coach in the first half? Man, you get on this hobby-horse whenever we lose a game. It's really frustrating watching these guys lose, but there are a ton of reasons why it happened.

Irving's injury.
Horford's ineffectiveness.
Rozier's inability to run an offense.
Hayward's inconsistency.
Terrible communication on defense.

A coach can only do so much. When fans see their team melting down, especially fans with a bit of knowledge about the game, they hone all of their focus onto one scapegoat.

How many timeouts can Brad call? How many subs can he try? At some point these grown men need to motivate themselves.

Teams need rozier gone.
Needs a center that can run.
Need a consistantly semi-productive hayward

Both could have been had at the deadline.

Both werent.

This is as muxh on danny as anything.

A buyout can help our big men, but Baynes' injury is the really big problem. We stink without him

I'm a big fan of Baynes and agree that he's important to the team, but this team's problems go WAYYY beyond his absence. These guys straight-up stink right now.

Oh no I agree, I was more referring to the need for a big man Silky was referring to.

We got a lot of issues

[gouki88]

How anyone can ignore the this team's front runner mentality and completely lack of effort in games like this is beyond me.

Ainge seriously needs to consider finding a new coach of Brad can no longer get through to these guys.  Poor effort is a direct indictment of poor coaching.

TP. People don't want to admit the obvious problem is Brad and the coaching staff simply not getting through to the guys, likely because before this year he was thought of as a major advantage for us. The coaching staff just doesn't have the tough character needed to manage this level of talent and take the team to the next level.

Same case can be made for Doc Rivers when he was coaching the Celts before KG and Ray joined Pierce in 2007.

Celts fans also wanted Doc fired before the magical 2007-08 season.

The problem with the Celts right now is they don't have the right mix of players.
All the Celts do is shoot 3-pointers.
That's why the Celts were leading big in the 1st half.
When the 3s were not falling in the 2nd half, Celts lost the lead and eventually lost the game.

What the Celts need is diversity on offense.
That's why Ainge is going after Anthony Davis.
Davis will provide that inside presence the Celts have been lacking since KG left in 2013.

Inside-outside basketball.
That's what the Celts need.

When the 3s are not falling, go inside.

In this game, the Clipper bigs did a good job defending the paint.
Tatum and Brown didn't have success against the Clipper bigs.

I think we have to wait until Brad gets that star big man before we can say the problem is the coach.

Remember, Doc Rivers suddenly became a genius after the Celts won a championship in 2008.

There arr far cheaper otions than davis for inside scoring

How many of those give you 29PPG while also being a top 5 rebounder, a top 2 rim protector and top 10 in steals?

[SparzWizard]

Looks like LA is clearly better than Boston when it comes to basketball.

[liam]

How anyone can ignore the this team's front runner mentality and completely lack of effort in games like this is beyond me.

Ainge seriously needs to consider finding a new coach of Brad can no longer get through to these guys.  Poor effort is a direct indictment of poor coaching.

TP. People don't want to admit the obvious problem is Brad and the coaching staff simply not getting through to the guys, likely because before this year he was thought of as a major advantage for us. The coaching staff just doesn't have the tough character needed to manage this level of talent and take the team to the next level.

He's not the obvious problem. That's why we don't want to admit it. It's not about a lovefest for Stevens. It's about an unwillingness to mobstorm the garden and demand Stevens be fired, largely because we see other more glaring issues than Brad Stevens.

Direct your impotent criticisms elsewhere. Before focusing your rage on one thing, realize you are oversimplifying the issue and trying to make Stevens the sacrificial scapegoat.

By having his players hover around the 3-point line to take a large quantity of 3's every game? Not regrouping the team when a lead looks like it is being blown or the enemy is making a run? Not getting interior presence from the market because that big man can't shoot 3s? Allowing opposing teams to put up 120 points at the Garden or elsewhere?

The Clippers took more threes than the Celtics tonight and made more.

[Ogaju]

These guys are lucky this is in the USA. They are only booed. If this **** happened here in Brazil, they would have to leave the court with umbrellas, cause spit, p---, rocks would be flying their way.

yep...the USA fans are very well behaved compared to other countries.

[KGs Knee]

How anyone can ignore the this team's front runner mentality and completely lack of effort in games like this is beyond me.

Ainge seriously needs to consider finding a new coach of Brad can no longer get through to these guys.  Poor effort is a direct indictment of poor coaching.

TP. People don't want to admit the obvious problem is Brad and the coaching staff simply not getting through to the guys, likely because before this year he was thought of as a major advantage for us. The coaching staff just doesn't have the tough character needed to manage this level of talent and take the team to the next level.

He's not the obvious problem. That's why we don't want to admit it. It's not about a lovefest for Stevens. It's about an unwillingness to mobstorm the garden and demand Stevens be fired, largely because we see other more glaring issues than Brad Stevens.

Direct your impotent criticisms elsewhere. Before focusing your rage on one thing, realize you are oversimplifying the issue and trying to make Stevens the sacrificial scapegoat.

LOL....are you Brad's mother or something?

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

This season has been brutal.

This team has serious chemistry problems, playing styles that clash and players that do not like playing together, plus a weak coach.

again

HOW MANY GAMES HAVE WE NOT PLAYED 48?

HOW MANY HAVE WE COME OUT FLAT 3rd quarter?

HOW MANY HAVE WE REFUSED TO ADJUST?

it is never ending

100% on coaching. you DO NOT keep making those mistakes. that is stuff the coaches have to fix.