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Something has to change. Suggestions?
« on: December 30, 2012, 11:41:18 PM »

Offline ctrey

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We just got blown out in three straight games. It looks like we have no heart at all. I refuse to believe that this team has quit on Doc but there is clearly something wrong. I think that Terry, Lee and Green have not fit in at all, we have no real reliable scoring outside of Pierce and he is struggling big time as well.
Avery Bradley is not going to turn this around, we simply do not seem to have any fight.
There needs to be a shake up in a big way. What that shake up is I don't know. I do not think we fire Doc, he is an outstanding coach and I do not think he could be replaced by anyone better. Beyond that I am open to anything at this point.

Re: Something has to change. Suggestions?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 11:42:39 PM »

Offline Smitty77

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An outstanding coach??? ;D

Could you please elaborate on that for me?

Re: Something has to change. Suggestions?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 11:46:47 PM »

Offline droopdog7

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Serious response; most likely what has to change is fans' expectations. 

If you look at the make up of our roster, it simply is not that good.  We're an old jump shooting team with one B level star  in rondo and two aging used to be stars.  We have zero I side defensive presence outside of kg.  The rest of the team is made up of just guys. 

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2012, 11:47:14 PM »

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If we could somehow add Gortat without giving up Bradley, I think we could be back in the discussion as a contender.

Bradley locks down the best ball handlers. Last year he owned Westbrook and Wade so we know that would help the perimeter defense a great deal, but we still need a bruiser underneath the hoop to protect the rim and grab rebounds.

Opposing guards aren't the only ones scoring in the paint,our big men are getting killed on the boards ,allowing opposing big men to score at will down low.

If you have those 2 pieces in place I really think the c's would be greatly improved. Still very doubtful it would get us #18 though...

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2012, 11:47:41 PM »

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Doc refuses to change. The guy is stubborn!!! So if you don't want to fire Doc, here are some ideas:


Simplify the defense

Never play Green at the 4

Feature Sully in the post more

Bring up Melo and bench Collins

Find a legit backup pg (true pg)

Drop the no rebounding scheme

Up Kg's minutes maybe 7 in 7 out

play Pierce at the 2 and green at the 3
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 11:49:04 PM »

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Maybe get size that has talent...or start over dumping pierce...bass...lee

Re: Something has to change. Suggestions?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 11:54:26 PM »

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- completely forget about the last three games and come up with a new approach.

- Get a big man niw or bring Melo up now. Whatever results he may give us, we need a new spark.

- Bring Jet back to his sixth man role. I dont care if Lee is shooting bad, one thing he's consistent about is solid defense.

- MORE EFFORT. It seems that this team has none, at all.

- More minutes for KG, less time for Green at the 4.

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PG: Jrue Holiday / Isaiah Thomas / Larry Hughes
SG: Paul George / Aaron McKie / Bradley Beal
SF: Paul Pierce / Tayshaun Prince / Brian Scalabrine
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Shareef Abdur-Raheem / Ben Simmons
C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 11:59:02 PM »

Offline Rtpas11

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Realistic Roster Rotation Change:

Starters:
Rondo, Bradley, Green, Garnett, Melo

Bench:
Terry, Lee, Pierce, Bass, Sully

Waive:
Collins, Wilcox

Sign:
Birdman, K-Mart

Re: Something has to change. Suggestions?
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2012, 12:01:52 AM »

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Realistic Roster Rotation Change:

Starters:
Rondo, Bradley, Green, Garnett, Melo

Bench:
Terry, Lee, Pierce, Bass, Sully

Waive:
Collins, Wilcox

Sign:
Birdman, K-Mart

I like Paul coming off the bench. Not sure if he will though?
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PG: Jrue Holiday / Isaiah Thomas / Larry Hughes
SG: Paul George / Aaron McKie / Bradley Beal
SF: Paul Pierce / Tayshaun Prince / Brian Scalabrine
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Shareef Abdur-Raheem / Ben Simmons
C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2012, 12:13:38 AM »

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I'm going to go after the golden child for a minute.

I see all of these posts that go something like "Except for KG, this team is [insert bad descriptor]."  I think he's as much at fault as anybody. 

He's a center now.  A center's job, by definition, is to protect the rim and clean up the glass.  At some point, KG needs to get his ass in the paint and play his position.  We desperately need somebody to swallow up drives to the basket, and it's within his skillset to be that guy until we find somebody else to fill the role.

I know how hard he tries for this team, and I know that this defense revolves around him.  I also know that our defense sucks right now.  We gave up 118 points to Sacramento.  It's time for our defensive leader to shoulder the burden of correcting a failing defense. 


In the meantime, I hope Danny is setting the phonelines on fire looking for a capable big man to help us out.  We need it.

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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2012, 12:15:19 AM »

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It's hard for anyone to control the defensive end when he is only playing 5 minutes at a time. Garnett is the only big with a clue on defense.

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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2012, 12:18:53 AM »

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I think we should try to trade Jason Terry. He just does not fit in with the team. No knock on him, it is just a bad fit. I also am beginning to think we may want to have Pierce be the sixth man and let Green start. It sounds nuts but I think that Jeff Green would be a lot better starting then coming off the bench. Also he should never play the four.
I think that once Bradley gets back we go with a starting line up of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger and KG. Sullinger has earned the starting job, he has been really consistent. I would actually like to see them run some plays for him. I think he could give them 13 and 8 if he got 30 minutes a game. Let Pierce be the sixth man, I think he would thrive in the role and still get solid minutes. Somehow I think this would make us very hard to deal with. A back up squad of Lee, Terry, Pierce and Bass along with whoever at the five would be a load to deal with.

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2012, 12:20:32 AM »

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A lot of things have to change. Something just doesn't cut it.

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2012, 12:25:09 AM »

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It's hard for anyone to control the defensive end when he is only playing 5 minutes at a time. Garnett is the only big with a clue on defense.

He hasn't even been doing it in the time he's on the court.  I agree that the rest of our big man rotation has been horrid defensively, but Garnett isn't blameless either.

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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2012, 12:29:42 AM »

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I think Danny has to get Cousins at all cost.  I'd trade Rondo in a heartbeat for Cousins....IF that is what it takes....our Center and front court defense is HORRIBLE...KG can't play 40 minutes anymore and make up for the rest of the guys mistakes.

just trade for  get Cousins   and go from  there.