2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread

[Rondo2287]

Any suggestions on who you would Start at the three for this team.

 Okafor Sabonis
 Randle Maker Ellenson
 Evan Turner/ Jeramai Grant/ Caris Levert
 Wade Valentine
 Lowry

 Levert is like a more athletic Evan Turner, that can shoot the three .446% from three last year.

 Grant is a very good defender , he can get you 13 ppg 6 rpg 2 bpg 1 spg per 36.

 Turner is rock solid but doesn't space the floor.

 Valentine is my guy and can really shoot it but will struggle some on Defense.

 If anyone has a three and D SF on the block let me know. I have tons of Bigs.

I think your starting lineup is fine, I wouldn't overthink it

[Celts Fan 508]

Yoki, where did you get those percentages? Rose shot 42% last year, and 29% from 3. His career averages are 44%, and 30% from 3. He has never shot 37.5% from 3 in any season.

They are D-Rose's stats from after the All-Star break. 21 games.

Woof cherry picking stats without citing the context.  Rough move Yoki

It's not cherry picking when it's true. The last half of the season, he was doing great. And recent stats matter, right? 

And I believe I did mention it's after the All-Star break.

Edit: I didn't.

WHOOPS. Sorry. I had that in mind, guess I forgot to add it... Ah crabs... Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

You also need to factor in that the Bulls were 2.2 points worse when Rose was on the floor.  Additionally he couldn't even get to 1 Win Share with all of his minutes that is pathetic.  Plus he is an alleged  rapist who will hopefully be suspended for a significant portion of the season. 

You might be right but I will never root for a player like that regardless of what team they play for.

[Bucketgetter]

Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?

[BigAlTheFuture]

Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?

1-4 is fantastic. I'm a bit skeptical about your C position. Bench is mediocre as well. 1-4 can hang with anybody though.

[riah32]

Looking for a trade to try to make my team better.
Pg: Rondo/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Mudiay/Meeks/Richardson
Sf:  Harrison Barnes/Beasely
Pf:  Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik

[RJ87]

Updated Brooklyn Nets through 12

Starters
C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Andrew Wiggins
SG: Jerryd Bayless/Greivis Vasquez
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench
F: Omri Casspi
G: Greivis Vasquez/Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario
PF: Kris Humphries
SG: Nik Stauskas

Still not sure who gets the starting nod at the 2.

[snively]

Updated Brooklyn Nets through 12

Starters
C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Andrew Wiggins
SG: Jerryd Bayless/Greivis Vasquez
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench
F: Omri Casspi
G: Greivis Vasquez/Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario
PF: Kris Humphries
SG: Nik Stauskas

Still not sure who gets the starting nod at the 2.

The guard depth in the league just sucks now.

I'd look for a trade if I were you to address that 2-guard spot.

[pearljammer10]

Boston after today's round:

Tony Parker/Mo Williams
Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili/KJ McDaniels
Al Farouq-Aminu/Jared Dudley/Tony Snell
Dirk Nowitzki/JaMychal Green
Deandre Jordan/Roy Hibbert/Alex Len

[max215]

Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?

I love it.

[RJ87]

Updated Brooklyn Nets through 12

Starters
C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Andrew Wiggins
SG: Jerryd Bayless/Greivis Vasquez
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench
F: Omri Casspi
G: Greivis Vasquez/Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario
PF: Kris Humphries
SG: Nik Stauskas

Still not sure who gets the starting nod at the 2.

The guard depth in the league just sucks now.

I'd look for a trade if I were you to address that 2-guard spot.

Yeah, I'm going to try to do something but it takes two to tango...I think I'll have to go with a big lineup of Dunn/Wiggins/Casspi/Olynyk/Cousins.

[snively]

Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?

Feeling good about stealing Capela from you.  Otherwise your starting line-up would be pretty intimidating.

As of now, you've got a fearsome offensive team, with tremendous perimeter defense and a nice blend of talents (a little green with Baldwin/Prince but the skill-sets are right).

But your big man rotation has a ton of question marks, especially at the 5.

Personally, I'd start Boban and try to use him like Indy use to use Hibbert - with all that defensive quickness around him, his super-slowness won't be as big an issue, and he can focus on his strengths playing off all that offensive talent.

[Bucketgetter]

Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?

Feeling good about stealing Capela from you.  Otherwise your starting line-up would be pretty intimidating.

As of now, you've got a fearsome offensive team, with tremendous perimeter defense and a nice blend of talents (a little green with Baldwin/Prince but the skill-sets are right).

But your big man rotation has a ton of question marks, especially at the 5.

Personally, I'd start Boban and try to use him like Indy use to use Hibbert - with all that defensive quickness around him, his super-slowness won't be as big an issue, and he can focus on his strengths playing off all that offensive talent.

I was thinking about starting Boban, but I think Henson is safer and less likely to get exposed on D. Henson doesn't offer much on offense but I don't really need him to do a lot given my "fearsome offense"  Boban is also raw and hasn't played that much, so some voters might not respect his true awesomeness.

[mkogav]

Looking for a trade to try to make my team better.
Pg: Rondo/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Mudiay/Meeks/Richardson
Sf:  Harrison Barnes/Beasely
Pf:  Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik

Mudiay is not a SG. Rivers is a combo guard, I would suggest swapping those two or moving Richardson up to backup SG and Rivers to 3d string PG behind Rondo/Mudiay.

I like that you are playing Jerebko over Faried... not that Jerebko is anything except 'ok'. Faried is terrible.

Here's a lineup that I really like:

Pg: Rondo/Mudiay/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Meeks
Sf:  Richardson/Beasely
Pf:  Harrison Barnes/Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik

Barnes and Jerebko don't make the toughest PF combo. With Gobert guarding the rim, it's probably ok.

Mk

[mkogav]

Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?

That is one of the better squads that I have seen. I really like the Lillard / Kawhi pairing.

A couple of thoughts:

1. D.J. should be the backup PG, not a rookie.

2. Backup PF is thin. I guess Henson could spot some minutes there to. You could really use a guy like DWest (via trade).

2. You need a decent backup SF and a veteran low usage/playoff tested C, e.g. Birdman recently played this role for the Heat.

Mk

[riah32]

Looking for a trade to try to make my team better.
Pg: Rondo/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Mudiay/Meeks/Richardson
Sf:  Harrison Barnes/Beasely
Pf:  Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik

Mudiay is not a SG. Rivers is a combo guard, I would suggest swapping those two or moving Richardson up to backup SG and Rivers to 3d string PG behind Rondo/Mudiay.

I like that you are playing Jerebko over Faried... not that Jerebko is anything except 'ok'. Faried is terrible.

Here's a lineup that I really like:

Pg: Rondo/Mudiay/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Meeks
Sf:  Richardson/Beasely
Pf:  Harrison Barnes/Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik

Barnes and Jerebko don't make the toughest PF combo. With Gobert guarding the rim, it's probably ok.

Mk

I forgot to mention that I put mudiay as the back Sg because he will more than likely cover the Sg spot on defense and will have primary ball handling duties and rivers will play of the ball.