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Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #120 on: October 30, 2017, 08:24:59 AM »

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Fultz now out 3 weeks with whatever is going on with his shoulder. Which alleviates none of the initial questions for me.

I still think it's totally possible Fultz becomes a multi-year all star in his career but man, am I glad the Celtics aren't dealing with this crap.
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Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #121 on: November 03, 2017, 12:23:27 PM »

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Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #122 on: November 03, 2017, 12:37:54 PM »

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Who's Fultz?

Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #123 on: November 03, 2017, 12:52:12 PM »

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Sounds more like a loss of confidence. He seems like a good kid. Hope he works it out.

Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #124 on: November 03, 2017, 12:56:17 PM »

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It can be from incorrect form or something more serious, like a neurological issue that effects muscle recruitment.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3105366/


If the weakness comes out to be neurological, that would be quite the red flag


Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #126 on: November 05, 2017, 01:14:44 AM »

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Who's Fultz?

I think it's actually a foodstuff, like a pilsner or a type of mature cheese. Sounds nice though.
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Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #127 on: November 05, 2017, 03:30:12 AM »

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Regardless of how he and the rest of the sixers prospects pan out, they have to wonder if it was worth it. Yet another headache to deal with on a to draft pick.

Literally every one of them they have had some issue with. Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Simmons, Fultz. You have 0 all-star appearances thus far, 4 full seasons missed to injury, a guy who can’t crack the rotation, and now yet another mystery. Simmons and Embiid are both talented, no doubt, but one can’t shoot and the other is seemingly somewhere between Bynum and Oden on the brittle-meter.

Ah well. Thanks for Tatum and the pick!
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Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #128 on: November 05, 2017, 07:02:25 AM »

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Now that we see what Simmons is it does make you wonder why they wanted to pair him with Fultz so badly.
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Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #129 on: November 05, 2017, 08:54:34 AM »

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Regardless of how he and the rest of the sixers prospects pan out, they have to wonder if it was worth it. Yet another headache to deal with on a to draft pick.

Literally every one of them they have had some issue with. Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Simmons, Fultz. You have 0 all-star appearances thus far, 4 full seasons missed to injury, a guy who can’t crack the rotation, and now yet another mystery. Simmons and Embiid are both talented, no doubt, but one can’t shoot and the other is seemingly somewhere between Bynum and Oden on the brittle-meter.

Ah well. Thanks for Tatum and the pick!
So if Embiid and Simmons become superstars that lead the Sixers to 8 finals in the next 10 seasons winning 3 of them, it wouldn't have been worth it?  Guess what.  It is going to take a lot less than that to make it worth it.  Since they won the championship in 82/83, they've only made the finals once.  So far the notion that the multiyear tank cost them a generation of fans has already been disproven.  They sold out of their season tickets this season and are 2nd in home attendance.  Embiid has shown he'll be a franchise player if he remains healthy.  Simmons performance so far suggests he may be too. 

Young players rarely make the allstar game but Embiid almost did last season while playing limited minutes in his 1st season.  This is Simmons and Fultz first year playing so how were they supposed to make it?  Guess what.  Towns and Wiggins haven't made the allstar game either.  Giannis made it for the 1st time last season in his 4th year.  I'm not 100% certain but I think he is the 1st allstar from the 2013 draft and beyond. 

Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #130 on: November 05, 2017, 09:13:23 AM »

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Regardless of how he and the rest of the sixers prospects pan out, they have to wonder if it was worth it. Yet another headache to deal with on a to draft pick.

Literally every one of them they have had some issue with. Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Simmons, Fultz. You have 0 all-star appearances thus far, 4 full seasons missed to injury, a guy who can’t crack the rotation, and now yet another mystery. Simmons and Embiid are both talented, no doubt, but one can’t shoot and the other is seemingly somewhere between Bynum and Oden on the brittle-meter.

Ah well. Thanks for Tatum and the pick!
So if Embiid and Simmons become superstars that lead the Sixers to 8 finals in the next 10 seasons winning 3 of them, it wouldn't have been worth it?  Guess what.  It is going to take a lot less than that to make it worth it.  Since they won the championship in 82/83, they've only made the finals once.  So far the notion that the multiyear tank cost them a generation of fans has already been disproven.  They sold out of their season tickets this season and are 2nd in home attendance.  Embiid has shown he'll be a franchise player if he remains healthy.  Simmons performance so far suggests he may be too. 

Young players rarely make the allstar game but Embiid almost did last season while playing limited minutes in his 1st season.  This is Simmons and Fultz first year playing so how were they supposed to make it?  Guess what.  Towns and Wiggins haven't made the allstar game either.  Giannis made it for the 1st time last season in his 4th year.  I'm not 100% certain but I think he is the 1st allstar from the 2013 draft and beyond.

Thats a stretch right now. Yeah they are 5th in east, but good teams are playing like crap and bad teams are playing really well right now. I mean Wash is 4 and 4. The Cavs,Mil, and Miami should all get better as the season goes on, and sixers should bottom out. Only reason they're 5th is they've won there last 4 games and only the win against Huston was impressive. Beating Atl and Dal should happen.

I mean the Knicks are 4 and 4 right now. Who would have seen that with one of the wins over the CAVS.

Also gotta remember we are the 3rd youngest team. We have Brown,Tatum,Rozier,Smart to match the Sixers young guys, and a possible top 5 player next season or the season after. Plus Irving is still young and Hayward is slightly older, but game should age well into his 30's. The Sixers will have to go threw us over the next 10 years if they can keep everyone.

Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #131 on: November 05, 2017, 09:17:26 AM »

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Now that we see what Simmons is it does make you wonder why they wanted to pair him with Fultz so badly.
Because Fultz was arguably the best prospect in the draft and his skillset should fit great with Simmons and Embiid.  Of course that was before he screwed up his shot.  Who else should they have taken? 

Tatum - Ainge probably wouldn't have made the trade if the Sixers wanted Tatum.  Would have added another player to the Sixers crowded front court when they need guards. 
Lonzo - Smaller, lesser version of Simmons with significant limitations
Josh Jackson - Shooting concerns.  Not a good fit with Simmons. 
Fox - My favorite in this draft but shooting concerns so not a good fit with Simmons. 
Isaac - More of a project.  Adds to Sixers crowded front court. 
Markannen - Really adds to Sixers crowded front court. 
Ntilikina - Too much of a project to take 1st or 3rd. 
Collins - Yikes!!  Bad pick for the Blazers.  Would have been really dumb for the Sixers. 
Monk -  There is a reason he dropped this far.  His upside is limited. 

Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #132 on: November 05, 2017, 09:26:59 AM »

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Now that we see what Simmons is it does make you wonder why they wanted to pair him with Fultz so badly.
Because Fultz was arguably the best prospect in the draft and his skillset should fit great with Simmons and Embiid.  Of course that was before he screwed up his shot.  Who else should they have taken? 

Tatum - Ainge probably wouldn't have made the trade if the Sixers wanted Tatum.  Would have added another player to the Sixers crowded front court when they need guards. 
Lonzo - Smaller, lesser version of Simmons with significant limitations
Josh Jackson - Shooting concerns.  Not a good fit with Simmons. 
Fox - My favorite in this draft but shooting concerns so not a good fit with Simmons. 
Isaac - More of a project.  Adds to Sixers crowded front court. 
Markannen - Really adds to Sixers crowded front court. 
Ntilikina - Too much of a project to take 1st or 3rd. 
Collins - Yikes!!  Bad pick for the Blazers.  Would have been really dumb for the Sixers. 
Monk -  There is a reason he dropped this far.  His upside is limited.

All those guys are a bad fit for Simmons what makes Fultz a good one? I was under the assumption he needed the ball in his hands.
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Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #133 on: November 05, 2017, 10:39:04 AM »

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Regardless of how he and the rest of the sixers prospects pan out, they have to wonder if it was worth it. Yet another headache to deal with on a to draft pick.

Literally every one of them they have had some issue with. Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Simmons, Fultz. You have 0 all-star appearances thus far, 4 full seasons missed to injury, a guy who can’t crack the rotation, and now yet another mystery. Simmons and Embiid are both talented, no doubt, but one can’t shoot and the other is seemingly somewhere between Bynum and Oden on the brittle-meter.

Ah well. Thanks for Tatum and the pick!
So if Embiid and Simmons become superstars that lead the Sixers to 8 finals in the next 10 seasons winning 3 of them, it wouldn't have been worth it?  Guess what.  It is going to take a lot less than that to make it worth it.  Since they won the championship in 82/83, they've only made the finals once.  So far the notion that the multiyear tank cost them a generation of fans has already been disproven.  They sold out of their season tickets this season and are 2nd in home attendance.  Embiid has shown he'll be a franchise player if he remains healthy.  Simmons performance so far suggests he may be too. 

Young players rarely make the allstar game but Embiid almost did last season while playing limited minutes in his 1st season.  This is Simmons and Fultz first year playing so how were they supposed to make it?  Guess what.  Towns and Wiggins haven't made the allstar game either.  Giannis made it for the 1st time last season in his 4th year.  I'm not 100% certain but I think he is the 1st allstar from the 2013 draft and beyond.

Thats a stretch right now. Yeah they are 5th in east, but good teams are playing like crap and bad teams are playing really well right now. I mean Wash is 4 and 4. The Cavs,Mil, and Miami should all get better as the season goes on, and sixers should bottom out. Only reason they're 5th is they've won there last 4 games and only the win against Huston was impressive. Beating Atl and Dal should happen.

I mean the Knicks are 4 and 4 right now. Who would have seen that with one of the wins over the CAVS.

Also gotta remember we are the 3rd youngest team. We have Brown,Tatum,Rozier,Smart to match the Sixers young guys, and a possible top 5 player next season or the season after. Plus Irving is still young and Hayward is slightly older, but game should age well into his 30's. The Sixers will have to go threw us over the next 10 years if they can keep everyone.
Try reading what I wrote again.  I didn't make any predictions or comment on whether the Sixers would make the playoffs this year.  I highlighted and commented to a nonsensical statement that no matter how their prospects turned out that you'd have to wonder if it was worth it.  I went over the top to do so. 

If you want to talk about this season, I think they'll make the playoffs if Embiid plays 60+ games and their other key players remain relatively healthy.  They have a much tougher 1st half of the season.  They've already played Houston (twice), Washington, Boston, Toronto, Pistons, Pacers, Hawks and Mavs.  The Houston 1st game loss was on a buzzer beater and the Washington game went down to the end to.  The only bad beat was Toronto but that was without Embiid.  So 5-4 is a really nice start for them. 

The Pistons, Magic, Hornets and Pacers are ahead of the teams you mentioned as well.  So why are the Sixers going to "bottom out" and those other teams won't?  There will probably be 4 teams, including the Sixers, competing for the last two playoff spots at the end of the season. 

If Embiid and Simmons reach their potential, they will be significantly better than our young players.  Tatum has Pierce potential, Brown is less than that, Rozier is a role player and Smart is a role player with a good chance of not being on our team after this season.  Yes we should be getting a top 5 pick with the Lakers/Kings pick but the Sixers may well also and they, not us, are the only ones with the chance at the getting the #1 picks in 2018 and 2019.  If the Sixers don't make the playoffs this season, that is another solid pick they'll get. 

It is humorous when people on here raise the "if they can keep everyone".  They are dealing with rookies which means smaller max contracts possibly to deal with in the future.  If they do end up with several young players deserving Max contracts, they can choose who to keep and who to trade off for good role players and picks.  That's a good problem to have. 

We're the ones with immediate cap/tax concerns.  Unless his offers really suck, there is a good chance we lose Smart after this season.  Considering Brown's development so far, I don't think that is a bad thing.  There is also no guarantee that Irving re-signs with us in two years.  He'll attract a lot of interest and there should be more teams with Max cap space available. 




Re: Fultz hasn't attempted a field goal past 14 feet this season. (Injured?)
« Reply #134 on: November 05, 2017, 10:53:30 AM »

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Now that we see what Simmons is it does make you wonder why they wanted to pair him with Fultz so badly.
Because Fultz was arguably the best prospect in the draft and his skillset should fit great with Simmons and Embiid.  Of course that was before he screwed up his shot.  Who else should they have taken? 

Tatum - Ainge probably wouldn't have made the trade if the Sixers wanted Tatum.  Would have added another player to the Sixers crowded front court when they need guards. 
Lonzo - Smaller, lesser version of Simmons with significant limitations
Josh Jackson - Shooting concerns.  Not a good fit with Simmons. 
Fox - My favorite in this draft but shooting concerns so not a good fit with Simmons. 
Isaac - More of a project.  Adds to Sixers crowded front court. 
Markannen - Really adds to Sixers crowded front court. 
Ntilikina - Too much of a project to take 1st or 3rd. 
Collins - Yikes!!  Bad pick for the Blazers.  Would have been really dumb for the Sixers. 
Monk -  There is a reason he dropped this far.  His upside is limited.
this draft was deep. They could have stayed where they were and taken fox or another guard. Good guards are easy to find. The first red flag was when Fultz had a terrible workout with Boston. 2nd one was his terrible workout with the sixers. 76ers chose to ignore. Danny didn't. A good gm should be able to draft an elite  guard at 3. 76ers prove their way ignorance. Fultz was not above and beyond better than fox or DJS. Fox is shooting 40% from 3 now
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