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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Phantom255x on June 01, 2018, 03:49:56 PM
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Unless you consider us possibly "selling high" on Rozier OR bringing back Smart and/or Baynes big moves this off-season, I'm not expecting much. I hope we find a way to bring back Smart and Baynes, and I'd at least see what Rozier or Morris could fetch back in a trade.
But yeah, I'm expecting a relatively quiet summer and I tend to believe Ainge when he says we are bringing back practically the same team with some small-to-moderate subtractions and additions. Maybe some depth moves/signings too.
That obviously won't stop the NBA-Media world from bringing up reports/rumors left and right and linking almost everyone available to Boston in the coming month lol. :P
KAT isn't getting traded, and I think Kawhi stays in SAS, but certainly all it takes is one reporter to throw a story out there that they could be getting shopped, and because Boston has many assets they'll be linked to like every trade target out there.
We've already had a report that the C's are interested in Bamba (SMOKESCREEN!) and could be looking to trade up in the draft. I do think the C's will make an effort to trade up and maybe get someone like Jaren Jackson Jr or Carter, but it will be difficult to pull off and I think they essentially either keep #27, trade down with it, or make a small move to trade up from #27, but only into the 16-24 range I suppose.
Anyways, it will be a fun summer just reading all the reports and speculations for sure. Kind of sad we aren't max-FA hunting like the last two years, as it was a fun (but also nerve-wracking) experience that I'll truly miss. I think most trade/draft rumors will just be smokescreen or pure speculation (not true). Kind of like how we were supposed to draft Fultz for sure, or trade for Butler and/or George.
Just don't be upset if nothing really happens. Assume we entered FA really early and acquired Theis, Kyrie and Hayward. ;D
As long as Kawhi and/or Lebron don't go to Philadelphia, I'm happy ;D
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My gut feeling says we actually make some sort of big move this summer.
Maybe it's just me hoping we do to add some "drama and spice" this summer in terms of Celtics news, and since we've made big additions the last few years, but I think Ainge is certainly cooking up something. It doesn't have to be a big move like Anthony Davis (he's not even available), but some trade for a young, up-and-coming potential star or a big trade up in the draft.
There will certainly be a ton of movement and transactions all across the league this summer.
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My gut feeling says we actually make some sort of big move this summer.
Maybe it's just me hoping we do to add some "drama and spice" this summer in terms of Celtics news, and since we've made big additions the last few years, but I think Ainge is certainly cooking up something. It doesn't have to be a big move like Anthony Davis (he's not even available), but some trade for a young, up-and-coming potential star or a big trade up in the draft.
There will certainly be a ton of movement and transactions all across the league this summer.
This Celtics squad is good enough to go all in. I can see Danny cashing chips for one more key player for the 5-8 year championship run.
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My gut feeling says we actually make some sort of big move this summer.
Maybe it's just me hoping we do to add some "drama and spice" this summer in terms of Celtics news, and since we've made big additions the last few years, but I think Ainge is certainly cooking up something. It doesn't have to be a big move like Anthony Davis (he's not even available), but some trade for a young, up-and-coming potential star or a big trade up in the draft.
There will certainly be a ton of movement and transactions all across the league this summer.
This Celtics squad is good enough to go all in. I can see Danny cashing chips for one more key player for the 5-8 year championship run.
My preference is they find some way to trade up into the 5-9 range and draft Carter (or Jaren Jackson Jr. if he ends up falling a few spots, though I doubt it).
We have a potential blue-chip front court prospect to build with going forward who is Horford's sidekick for a few years, and possibly Horford's replacement later on. To me, a young big is the missing piece to this puzzle. We got our wings, and looks like we have a great guard duo (Kyrie-Brown) and solid depth in both departments. Adding a long-term, young big would do wonders going forward. We aren't getting Bagley or Ayton, but I'm high on Carter or JJJ. I would say Bamba but I think it'll take a while for him to be honest (very raw at the moment).
Now do I think we can trade up that much, unfortunately no. Ainge will try though and certainly will explore whatever options he can.
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My gut feeling says we actually make some sort of big move this summer.
Maybe it's just me hoping we do to add some "drama and spice" this summer in terms of Celtics news, and since we've made big additions the last few years, but I think Ainge is certainly cooking up something. It doesn't have to be a big move like Anthony Davis (he's not even available), but some trade for a young, up-and-coming potential star or a big trade up in the draft.
There will certainly be a ton of movement and transactions all across the league this summer.
This Celtics squad is good enough to go all in. I can see Danny cashing chips for one more key player for the 5-8 year championship run.
It's probably from the Draft this year (if they trade up), or next (with Kings Pick).
If Kawhi stays in San Antonio, I don't think there's anyone else out there who fits the bill. KAT isn't getting traded. Doubt we are trading for any of the possible guards that could be available either (Beal, McCollum, etc).
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Hard to say what will happen, especially with Danny in charge.
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It's either read Celticsblog rumors or actually do something at work. I've gotta go with the rumors.
Mike
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Hard to say what will happen, especially with Danny in charge.
Exactly. The guy is ruthless.
I remember last year Bill Simmons in a podcast started talking about potential trades for the C's to get Kyrie, but then scrapped it because it made him sad to talk about trading IT4 and he himself didn't want to trade the fan-favorite Isaiah and neither did the fanbase. (I didn't either)
Then we saw what happened :laugh:
It's either read Celticsblog rumors or actually do something at work. I've gotta go with the rumors.
Mike
Smart man!
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I am expecting total boredom this summer and on draft night.
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I am expecting total boredom this summer and on draft night.
Yeah. Only excitement will come from all the rumors and seeing what happens with our own FA's.
That and of course hearing Lebron is going West or simply not going to Philly 8)
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Are you saying LeBron isn't coming to Boston?
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I am expecting total boredom this summer and on draft night.
Yeah. Only excitement will come from all the rumors and seeing what happens with our own FA's.
That and of course hearing Lebron is going West or simply not going to Philly 8)
I expect little will happen, but I'll enjoy the draft day rumors. I'm with Phantom on trying to trade up for Jackson or Carter.
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I enjoy the rumor mill because it whips this place to a fever pitch. While some posts are obviously not the best quality, an overall increase in things to talk about is great for discourse.
A lot of time the quality posts are the ones in response to an outlandish "what if" proposal.
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It's either read Celticsblog rumors or actually do something at work. I've gotta go with the rumors.
Mike
YOU'RE FIRED!
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Are you saying LeBron isn't coming to Boston?
Of course he is...
.... for some clam chowder this summer during the offseason! :P
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[Rohrbach] Asked if there’s a chance the Celtics run it back with the team that reached the Eastern Conference finals plus Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving, Ainge said, “Probably not the entire team, but the main core guys, sure.”
Take it as you will, with a grain of salt as I believe Larkin, Nader, and Monroe won't be coming back.
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Danny's asking prices for our assets are astronomical when we are in rebuilding mode - how absurd are they going to be when we don't have any glaring needs?
I imagine a lot of GMs hanging up from calls with DA this summer, just shaking their heads.
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I expect a quiet one for Boston, but for the league it should be crazy
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[Rohrbach] Asked if there’s a chance the Celtics run it back with the team that reached the Eastern Conference finals plus Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving, Ainge said, “Probably not the entire team, but the main core guys, sure.”
Take it as you will, with a grain of salt as I believe Larkin, Nader, and Monroe won't be coming back.
so, you are in the "celtics make a HUGE move" crowd?? ;D
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[Rohrbach] Asked if there’s a chance the Celtics run it back with the team that reached the Eastern Conference finals plus Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving, Ainge said, “Probably not the entire team, but the main core guys, sure.”
Take it as you will, with a grain of salt as I believe Larkin, Nader, and Monroe won't be coming back.
Anything but Nader. He's one of the worst players I've seen break into the league in a while.
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[Rohrbach] Asked if there’s a chance the Celtics run it back with the team that reached the Eastern Conference finals plus Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving, Ainge said, “Probably not the entire team, but the main core guys, sure.”
Take it as you will, with a grain of salt as I believe Larkin, Nader, and Monroe won't be coming back.
so, you are in the "celtics make a HUGE move" crowd?? ;D
I'd like to draft a big. I think any big that has a decent floor/ceiling would be better off suited playing under Stevens and Horford.
But yes, yes, yes I am! :) ^.^
What about you hyungnim?
[Rohrbach] Asked if there’s a chance the Celtics run it back with the team that reached the Eastern Conference finals plus Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving, Ainge said, “Probably not the entire team, but the main core guys, sure.”
Take it as you will, with a grain of salt as I believe Larkin, Nader, and Monroe won't be coming back.
Anything but Nader. He's one of the worst players I've seen break into the league in a while.
Same here. I liked Nader in D-League, and he seems like a nice guy, but man he just has terrible tunnel vision.
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I liked Nader in D-League, and he seems like a nice guy, but man he just has terrible tunnel vision.
Selfish, too. The most worse thing is his appalling lack of effort on Defense. As far as I am concerned the door can't hit him quit enough on his rear when he leaves....
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Only big name who will change teams is Paul George to the Lakers...lebron stays at cleveland
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I liked Nader in D-League, and he seems like a nice guy, but man he just has terrible tunnel vision.
Selfish, too. The most worse thing is his appalling lack of effort on Defense. As far as I am concerned the door can't hit him quit enough on his rear when he leaves....
While I agree with you that I will not miss Nader, I don’t think his bad defense is selfishness. I watched a lot of him in the D-league, and he just gets distracted by on-ball action. I can count the number of times I saw him get into position to play help defense only to ultimately lose track of his man by 15 feet. He started to try to make the right play, but his on-court awareness and vision is just too poor. He couldn’t look one direction and feel when someone else was moving in a different direction. I’m not remotely surprised that he couldn’t cut it this year.
It makes him not good enough for the NBA, but it wasn’t laziness. Just a skill that he lacks, and one that seems very difficult to improve. He needs to go to Europe where the game is slower. He’s plenty athletic and a decent shooter. Just not a natural basketball player.
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Only big name who will change teams is Paul George to the Lakers...lebron stays at cleveland
Fine by me.
Lebron doesn't go PHI, and LAL only gets George who isn't carrying them to legitimate contention anytime soon (especially in a loaded West)
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[Rohrbach] Asked if there’s a chance the Celtics run it back with the team that reached the Eastern Conference finals plus Gordon Hayward and Kyrie Irving, Ainge said, “Probably not the entire team, but the main core guys, sure.”
Take it as you will, with a grain of salt as I believe Larkin, Nader, and Monroe won't be coming back.
I expect Larkin.
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I think Dallas will be major player in free agency..
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C’s-related, these are my hopes:
1. Kyrie, GH and Theis all recover 100%
2. We sell high on Rozier and other parts to make a mid-splashy trade (ala Bradley for Morris)
3. We resign Smart at a reasonable contract (not 14+ please)
4. We keep Monroe as a backup. We let Nader go (back to the D league?). Larkin, I’m indifferent.
Non-C’s related, these are my hopes:
1. Lebron leaves Cleveland for Houston
2. Toronto blows it up. It ain’t working, boys!
3. JJ Redick leaves Philly. He’s a classy guy and doesn’t seem like a culture fit in PhiLA
4. Klay Thompson leaves GSW (lol)
5. Kawhi comes back healthy, in a Spurs uniform or otherwise
6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
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C’s-related, these are my hopes:
1. Kyrie, GH and Theis all recover 100%
2. We sell high on Rozier and other parts to make a mid-splashy trade (ala Bradley for Morris)
3. We resign Smart at a reasonable contract (not 14+ please)
4. We keep Monroe as a backup. We let Nader go (back to the D league?). Larkin, I’m indifferent.
Non-C’s related, these are my hopes:
1. Lebron leaves Cleveland for Houston
2. Toronto blows it up. It ain’t working, boys!
3. JJ Redick leaves Philly. He’s a classy guy and doesn’t seem like a culture fit in PhiLA
4. Klay Thompson leaves GSW (lol)
5. Kawhi comes back healthy, in a Spurs uniform or otherwise
6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
Honestly, all of those Non-C's possibilities actually seem likely except #4, lol, but I hope it happens! I think Reddick stays IF PHI doesn't make a splash signing/trade, but that's still good for us IMO.
I think we could see Washington maybe blow it up a bit too.
I wonder if Noel could be had as a 1 year, prove it-deal (vet. minimum) if Monroe goes elsewhere.
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C’s-related, these are my hopes:
1. Kyrie, GH and Theis all recover 100%
2. We sell high on Rozier and other parts to make a mid-splashy trade (ala Bradley for Morris)
3. We resign Smart at a reasonable contract (not 14+ please)
4. We keep Monroe as a backup. We let Nader go (back to the D league?). Larkin, I’m indifferent.
Non-C’s related, these are my hopes:
1. Lebron leaves Cleveland for Houston
2. Toronto blows it up. It ain’t working, boys!
3. JJ Redick leaves Philly. He’s a classy guy and doesn’t seem like a culture fit in PhiLA
4. Klay Thompson leaves GSW (lol)
5. Kawhi comes back healthy, in a Spurs uniform or otherwise
6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
1) Yes but Kyrie suffers another injury and plays less than 70 games.
2-3) Smart doesn't get an offer that he likes so comes back on the QO. Don't think Rozier gets traded.
4) I think Monroe won't be back. Hopefully Baynes will be.
1) All this talk of Lebron to Houston and I've yet to see a reasonable proposal on how it gets done. Houston doesn't have the assets to get it done and the Cavs would certainly not take on Anderson's terrible contract.
2) Toronto won't blow it up. They'll make one more run to see if the new coach will help. They'll also hope that Lebron goes West.
3) Redick loves playing for the Sixers. On a recent podcast with Bill Simmons, Redick said it was an enjoyable year, fun culture and hoped he'd play several more with them. If Redick leaves it will be because the Sixers sign Lebron or PG13 and therefore could only offer Redick the room exception (<5M).
4) Klay isn't going anywhere.
5) Kawhi will be back with the Spurs. The question is will they offer him the designated veteran extension this off season. I think not.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
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Lebron can opt out, can't he? I don't see Houston needing to give up any assets, just create the necessary cap space.
If we try to trade for KAT, I expect that Jaylen Brown will be gone.
If we trade TRoz -- hopefully we get back at least a pick from 6-10. Maybe we take a shot on Bamba, if he lasts that long, Michael Porter Jr, or someone with size and upside.
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6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
I'm just going to point out that the Kings have had seven top 10 picks in the last six years, and they have come up with:
Bismack Biyombo
Thomas Robinson
Ben McLemore
Nik Stauskas
Willie Cauley-Stein
Skal Labissiere
De'Aaron Fox
Forget stars - as of now there are zero legit NBA starters in that group.
Let's not underestimate the Kings' ability to screw things up.
I looked up the C's last seven top 10 picks, ignoring ones we traded:
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce
Chauncey Billups
Ron Mercer
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Lebron can opt out, can't he? I don't see Houston needing to give up any assets, just create the necessary cap space.
If we try to trade for KAT, I expect that Jaylen Brown will be gone.
If we trade TRoz -- hopefully we get back at least a pick from 6-10. Maybe we take a shot on Bamba, if he lasts that long, Michael Porter Jr, or someone with size and upside.
How does Houston create the cap space? They are already at 78M for only 7 players. That doesn't include CP3 or Capella. So even if they let CP3 and Capella walk they'd still have less than 20M in cap space and Lebron is getting 35M.
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6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
I'm just going to point out that the Kings have had seven top 10 picks in the last six years, and they have come up with:
Bismack Biyombo
Thomas Robinson
Ben McLemore
Nik Stauskas
Willie Cauley-Stein
Skal Labissiere
De'Aaron Fox
Forget stars - as of now there are zero legit NBA starters in that group.
Let's not underestimate the Kings' ability to screw things up.
I looked up the C's last seven top 10 picks, ignoring ones we traded:
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce
Chauncey Billups
Ron Mercer
So what? I didn't claim that the Kings drafted well although I do like Fox. Only 3 of the players you mentioned are still on the Kings. The Kings finished 7th worse this season when they had an incentive to tank. I see no reason that they'd finish much worse next season.
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6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
I'm just going to point out that the Kings have had seven top 10 picks in the last six years, and they have come up with:
Bismack Biyombo
Thomas Robinson
Ben McLemore
Nik Stauskas
Willie Cauley-Stein
Skal Labissiere
De'Aaron Fox
Forget stars - as of now there are zero legit NBA starters in that group.
Let's not underestimate the Kings' ability to screw things up.
I looked up the C's last seven top 10 picks, ignoring ones we traded:
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce
Chauncey Billups
Ron Mercer
But, but, switchability! ::)
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Lebron can opt out, can't he? I don't see Houston needing to give up any assets, just create the necessary cap space.
If we try to trade for KAT, I expect that Jaylen Brown will be gone.
If we trade TRoz -- hopefully we get back at least a pick from 6-10. Maybe we take a shot on Bamba, if he lasts that long, Michael Porter Jr, or someone with size and upside.
How does Houston create the cap space? They are already at 78M for only 7 players. That doesn't include CP3 or Capella. So even if they let CP3 and Capella walk they'd still have less than 20M in cap space and Lebron is getting 35M.
Yeah they can't just create cap space. A S&T is really the only option. Maybe Lebron opts-out but then CLE re-signs him to slightly below max (like 25-30M/Year), and then HOU does a S&T.
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Apparently, there's a rumor out there saying that the Mavericks are not interested in a Brown, Rozier + #27 package for #5. They want Tatum instead of Brown :laugh:
LOL there's no way Ainge even ships Brown (former #3) for a #5 pick. Now if it got Boston into the Top-3, maybe, but I still highly doubt it. Jaylen is as close to untouchable unless it's for someone like Anthony Davis.
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C’s-related, these are my hopes:
1. Kyrie, GH and Theis all recover 100%
2. We sell high on Rozier and other parts to make a mid-splashy trade (ala Bradley for Morris)
3. We resign Smart at a reasonable contract (not 14+ please)
4. We keep Monroe as a backup. We let Nader go (back to the D league?). Larkin, I’m indifferent.
Non-C’s related, these are my hopes:
1. Lebron leaves Cleveland for Houston
2. Toronto blows it up. It ain’t working, boys!
3. JJ Redick leaves Philly. He’s a classy guy and doesn’t seem like a culture fit in PhiLA
4. Klay Thompson leaves GSW (lol)
5. Kawhi comes back healthy, in a Spurs uniform or otherwise
6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
Wasn't that said about the Nets in 2017?
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6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
I'm just going to point out that the Kings have had seven top 10 picks in the last six years, and they have come up with:
Bismack Biyombo
Thomas Robinson
Ben McLemore
Nik Stauskas
Willie Cauley-Stein
Skal Labissiere
De'Aaron Fox
Forget stars - as of now there are zero legit NBA starters in that group.
Let's not underestimate the Kings' ability to screw things up.
I looked up the C's last seven top 10 picks, ignoring ones we traded:
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce
Chauncey Billups
Ron Mercer
So what? I didn't claim that the Kings drafted well although I do like Fox. Only 3 of the players you mentioned are still on the Kings. The Kings finished 7th worse this season when they had an incentive to tank. I see no reason that they'd finish much worse next season.
They don't need any incentives to stink. They have the least amount of talent in the league. Whoever they draft will automatically be their best player by a significant margin.
Sacramento's leading scorer was Zach Randolf. He'll be 37 next year. They have a few useful role players, but no one who probably will ever evolve into a quality starter.
Take a look at all the teams they beat out this year. All of them look better than Sacramento. The only worry is that they get Doncic and he has a great first year. Otherwise they will probably look fondly back at the glory days of 2017-18
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C’s-related, these are my hopes:
1. Kyrie, GH and Theis all recover 100%
2. We sell high on Rozier and other parts to make a mid-splashy trade (ala Bradley for Morris)
3. We resign Smart at a reasonable contract (not 14+ please)
4. We keep Monroe as a backup. We let Nader go (back to the D league?). Larkin, I’m indifferent.
Non-C’s related, these are my hopes:
1. Lebron leaves Cleveland for Houston
2. Toronto blows it up. It ain’t working, boys!
3. JJ Redick leaves Philly. He’s a classy guy and doesn’t seem like a culture fit in PhiLA
4. Klay Thompson leaves GSW (lol)
5. Kawhi comes back healthy, in a Spurs uniform or otherwise
6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
Wasn't that said about the Nets in 2017?
Yep and 2016 :D
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C’s-related, these are my hopes:
1. Kyrie, GH and Theis all recover 100%
2. We sell high on Rozier and other parts to make a mid-splashy trade (ala Bradley for Morris)
3. We resign Smart at a reasonable contract (not 14+ please)
4. We keep Monroe as a backup. We let Nader go (back to the D league?). Larkin, I’m indifferent.
Non-C’s related, these are my hopes:
1. Lebron leaves Cleveland for Houston
2. Toronto blows it up. It ain’t working, boys!
3. JJ Redick leaves Philly. He’s a classy guy and doesn’t seem like a culture fit in PhiLA
4. Klay Thompson leaves GSW (lol)
5. Kawhi comes back healthy, in a Spurs uniform or otherwise
6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
Wasn't that said about the Nets in 2017?
Yep and 2016 :D
This idea that teams with no incentive to tank won't stink up the joint is out of touch with reality, there have been countless teams through the decades with no incentive to tank but have coughed up high lottery picks to other franchises.
Brooklyn the last 3 years
The Nets in 2012 in the Gerald Wallace trade
The Nets in 2011 in the Deron Williams trade
The Knicks in 2006 & 2007 in the Eddie Curry trade
The Grizzlies in 2003 to the Pistons for Otis Thorpe
Going back further you had the Clippers in 1986, Cavs in 1982, Detroit in 1980 , The Jazz back in 79 .
All those teams had no incentive to tank, but they sucked anyways.
Not to say that the Kings are going to be a dead certainity to finish as one of the bottom 5 teams in the league, but incentive or not , if they suck they will suck incentive or not, There is still a at a maximum 14% chance that the 76ers will end up with the top pick, something for the Process supporters to cling to ;)
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C’s-related, these are my hopes:
1. Kyrie, GH and Theis all recover 100%
2. We sell high on Rozier and other parts to make a mid-splashy trade (ala Bradley for Morris)
3. We resign Smart at a reasonable contract (not 14+ please)
4. We keep Monroe as a backup. We let Nader go (back to the D league?). Larkin, I’m indifferent.
Non-C’s related, these are my hopes:
1. Lebron leaves Cleveland for Houston
2. Toronto blows it up. It ain’t working, boys!
3. JJ Redick leaves Philly. He’s a classy guy and doesn’t seem like a culture fit in PhiLA
4. Klay Thompson leaves GSW (lol)
5. Kawhi comes back healthy, in a Spurs uniform or otherwise
6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
Wasn't that said about the Nets in 2017?
Yep and 2016 :D
This idea that teams with no incentive to tank won't stink up the joint is out of touch with reality, there have been countless teams through the decades with no incentive to tank but have coughed up high lottery picks to other franchises.
Brooklyn the last 3 years
The Nets in 2012 in the Gerald Wallace trade
The Nets in 2011 in the Deron Williams trade
The Knicks in 2006 & 2007 in the Eddie Curry trade
The Grizzlies in 2003 to the Pistons for Otis Thorpe
Going back further you had the Clippers in 1986, Cavs in 1982, Detroit in 1980 , The Jazz back in 79 .
All those teams had no incentive to tank, but they sucked anyways.
Not to say that the Kings are going to be a dead certainity to finish as one of the bottom 5 teams in the league, but incentive or not , if they suck they will suck incentive or not, There is still a at a maximum 14% chance that the 76ers will end up with the top pick, something for the Process supporters to cling to ;)
TP. Well said.
Also, you have to realize that quite a few of the bad teams this year could also be rising next year and some have the potential to add talent (make win-now moves). Unless the Kings add a star player this summer.. they'll likely project to be in the bottom of the pack again to be honest (maybe not bottom-3, but bottom-5 is likely).
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6. Sacramento implodes, unwittingly making themselves the worst team in the league next year.
6) Sacramento won't be the worst team and they have no incentive to tank.
I'm just going to point out that the Kings have had seven top 10 picks in the last six years, and they have come up with:
Bismack Biyombo
Thomas Robinson
Ben McLemore
Nik Stauskas
Willie Cauley-Stein
Skal Labissiere
De'Aaron Fox
Forget stars - as of now there are zero legit NBA starters in that group.
Let's not underestimate the Kings' ability to screw things up.
I looked up the C's last seven top 10 picks, ignoring ones we traded:
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart
Joe Johnson
Paul Pierce
Chauncey Billups
Ron Mercer
that is very good advice. with "no incentive to tank" the kings draft picks since 2010 have been: 5,7,5,7,8,6,8,5...and that is with cousins on the team for all but the first one. they are a terribly managed and run team.
that sacramento pick should be a good one next year.
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Those Lebron rumors are sure helping to cope with the boredom between now and the Draft :laugh:
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Im saying it wont be a busy summer...james staying at cleveland..only big name i think will be paul george to lakers
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This is the "calm before the storm"
Starting tomorrow, get ready for A TON of more rumors with Draft Day 4 days away, and of course FA about two weeks away :P
It's definitely gotten spicy with the rumor that Kawhi officially wants out now. (Very unexpected)
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This is the "calm before the storm"
Starting tomorrow, get ready for A TON of more rumors with Draft Day 4 days away, and of course FA about two weeks away :P
It's definitely gotten spicy with the rumor that Kawhi officially wants out now. (Very unexpected)
Yeah, didn't the lotto pick last year happen around Monday? Thursday, I aint getting crap done for work. LOL
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This is the "calm before the storm"
Starting tomorrow, get ready for A TON of more rumors with Draft Day 4 days away, and of course FA about two weeks away :P
It's definitely gotten spicy with the rumor that Kawhi officially wants out now. (Very unexpected)
Yeah, didn't the lotto pick last year happen around Monday? Thursday, I aint getting crap done for work. LOL
Yeah I work at a hospital now but this month it's mostly training just 2-3 days a week (about 5-6 hours each day), BUT one day I work this week is Thursday LOL. Definitely checking my phone a little more than usual for the rumors/reports :P
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This is the "calm before the storm"
Starting tomorrow, get ready for A TON of more rumors with Draft Day 4 days away, and of course FA about two weeks away :P
It's definitely gotten spicy with the rumor that Kawhi officially wants out now. (Very unexpected)
Yeah, didn't the lotto pick last year happen around Monday? Thursday, I aint getting crap done for work. LOL
Yeah I work at a hospital now but this month it's mostly training just 2-3 days a week (about 5-6 hours each day), BUT one day I work this week is Thursday LOL. Definitely checking my phone a little more than usual for the rumors/reports :P
Please post the name of the hospital so that, if I get an emergency, I'll know where not to go! :)
"Phantom, the patient is dying!"
"Yeah, but there's a Kawhi to the Celtics rumor!"
Mike
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This is the "calm before the storm"
Starting tomorrow, get ready for A TON of more rumors with Draft Day 4 days away, and of course FA about two weeks away :P
It's definitely gotten spicy with the rumor that Kawhi officially wants out now. (Very unexpected)
Yeah, didn't the lotto pick last year happen around Monday? Thursday, I aint getting crap done for work. LOL
Yeah I work at a hospital now but this month it's mostly training just 2-3 days a week (about 5-6 hours each day), BUT one day I work this week is Thursday LOL. Definitely checking my phone a little more than usual for the rumors/reports :P
Please post the name of the hospital so that, if I get an emergency, I'll know where not to go! :)
"Phantom, the patient is dying!"
"Yeah, but there's a Kawhi to the Celtics rumor!"
Mike
I'm a student intern/assistant in a large department so thankfully I'm not killing folks yet LOL.
And honestly it will probably be more like:
"Phantom, you need to do this"
I can't. I need to respond to this ridiculous trade idea/post made by someone on Celticsblog :P
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I think Dallas will be major player in free agency..
How so? :D