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Title: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Monkhouse on October 22, 2015, 08:15:36 PM
I'm contemplating breaking it off with this girl.

We've been dating or were once co-workers about 3 months ago. So we've been going out around 2 months now, and the past 3 weeks, she's been really busy.

As in we rarely text to each other, (I don't even text her that much though,) and communication between the two has been very slim to none. I was her first, taken her virginity, and she was very into me. With the school semester starting, and me knowing her work schedule, I have no idea how she has been so busy for the past 3 weeks.

I'll text her and ask when shes available or free this week, and she'll say, 'pretty busy this week.'

This has been going on for 3 weeks, and I haven't seen her since. I finally did see her yesterday, and she had to go to class so I volunteered to walk her to her clas, and I was going to ask what's been going on, but instead asked if we're all right. She said yes, but she seemed like she wasn't comfortable with me, (like refusing to hold hands,) and not saying much during the walk to her class.

What do you guys think? Do you think shes cheating on me? Falling out of feelings for me? Or genuinely busy?

We were supposed to meet up today to talk and chat about what's been going on, but she didn't text or respond today. Surprise.
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Post by: BitterJim on October 22, 2015, 08:24:04 PM
If the relationship is gonna have any chance, you guys have to be able to communicate.  Tell her that you guys need to talk (IN PERSON) and then tell her how you feel directly.  Don't be accusatory, say things like "I feel like we haven't been close lately" (Say how YOU feel, and, again, DON'T BE ACCUSATORY).

Communication is key.  You can ask other people's opinions all you want, but she's the one that knows for sure.  Let her know that it's important that you guys talk, and I'm sure she'll make time.
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Post by: fairweatherfan on October 22, 2015, 08:25:31 PM
I'm not gonna speculate on whether she's seeing somebody else, but yeah those are very strong signals that something's up.  Relationships making people as crazy as they do, it's possible she doesn't even consciously realize she's sending them, either.  But I'd recommend talking it over instead of just breaking it off right away - it's always better to try and get everything on the table before making a big decision like that.
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Post by: bello_man09 on October 22, 2015, 08:26:06 PM
dude cut her off, I know its hard don't call or text just act like she doesn't exist. she will contact you and explain why she wasn't communicating properly. 
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Monkhouse on October 22, 2015, 08:30:09 PM
If the relationship is gonna have any chance, you guys have to be able to communicate.  Tell her that you guys need to talk (IN PERSON) and then tell her how you feel directly.  Don't be accusatory, say things like "I feel like we haven't been close lately" (Say how YOU feel, and, again, DON'T BE ACCUSATORY).

Communication is key.  You can ask other people's opinions all you want, but she's the one that knows for sure.  Let her know that it's important that you guys talk, and I'm sure she'll make time.

You're right.

I'm not gonna speculate on whether she's seeing somebody else, but yeah those are very strong signals that something's up.  Relationships making people as crazy as they do, it's possible she doesn't even consciously realize she's sending them, either.  But I'd recommend talking it over instead of just breaking it off right away - it's always better to try and get everything on the table before making a big decision like that.

She isn't exactly the best person at relationships. She'll say a lot things during our time together, and I'll just be like, 'what... who does this.' She's not experienced with relationships which is my assumption.
dude cut her off, I know its hard don't call or text just act like she doesn't exist. she will contact you and explain why she wasn't communicating properly. 

If I'm going to cut her off, I'm just going to break it off so I don't have to deal with this B.S. I don't have time to play high school games brother.
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: trickybilly on October 22, 2015, 08:40:43 PM
Can you afford a private investigator?
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Post by: Denis998 on October 22, 2015, 08:44:59 PM
I'm a student and I can attest to how busy it gets, I haven't had a proper day off in 2 months or so. Especially around this time when we are overloaded with midterms and the such. She probably really is really busy, especially paired with a job
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Monkhouse on October 22, 2015, 08:51:07 PM
I'm a student and I can attest to how busy it gets, I haven't had a proper day off in 2 months or so. Especially around this time when we are overloaded with midterms and the such. She probably really is really busy, especially paired with a job

I work 45 hours. Attend 14 credit classes which is considered full time, and love sleep more than I love money. But I would be willing to make at least one day free or available for her. If I was too busy for a relationship, then I would never get in one personally. I just think its rude, because unless you guys have established a rapport strong enough over a year, then its okay to be too busy, but for some people it gives off the feeling, 'is she not interested anymore? Cheating on me? Or is she exploring her options while being with me momentarily?'

Maybe its just me, I don't know. I mean I'm empathetic, because school does get busy considering what type of level classes she's taking, but I still feel you should be able to make at least one day to chat and talk. But I mean I'm going to meet up with her hopefully by next week to see what's up.

I was actually very close to texting her, that maybe taking a break would be the best for both of us a few hours ago, but I decided to make a thread about this. I appreciated the cold hard truths you guys gave me in my old girl problem thread.

You guys are amazing. Thanks for your help.

Can you afford a private investigator?

Depends on how expensive they are lol.
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: JSD on October 22, 2015, 09:09:38 PM
Always trust your gut, it never lies. She's interested in someone else. Go no contact then move on.
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Post by: saltlover on October 22, 2015, 09:45:59 PM
Sorry, but I think she's moved on and doesn't know how to tell you.
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Post by: hwangjini_1 on October 22, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
walk away. sounds as if it is over, which is quite common.

if she really wants to be with you she will contact you. if she doesn't then you know it's over.

move on, live your life's next chapter.
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Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 22, 2015, 10:03:23 PM
Always keep an extra babe for backup......in case these situations happen :)
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Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on October 22, 2015, 10:04:19 PM
If the relationship is gonna have any chance, you guys have to be able to communicate.  Tell her that you guys need to talk (IN PERSON) and then tell her how you feel directly.  Don't be accusatory, say things like "I feel like we haven't been close lately" (Say how YOU feel, and, again, DON'T BE ACCUSATORY).

Communication is key.  You can ask other people's opinions all you want, but she's the one that knows for sure.  Let her know that it's important that you guys talk, and I'm sure she'll make time.



This was easily the best advice. Telling you to end it w/o communicating your feelings seems a bit childish to me. You never know what's going on in a person's life, talk to her!
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Post by: GratefulCs on October 22, 2015, 10:23:20 PM
dude cut her off, I know its hard don't call or text just act like she doesn't exist. she will contact you and explain why she wasn't communicating properly.
most underrated post



Hard to do, but definitely the right course of action
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 22, 2015, 11:39:45 PM
If the relationship is gonna have any chance, you guys have to be able to communicate.  Tell her that you guys need to talk (IN PERSON) and then tell her how you feel directly.  Don't be accusatory, say things like "I feel like we haven't been close lately" (Say how YOU feel, and, again, DON'T BE ACCUSATORY).
Communication is key.  You can ask other people's opinions all you want, but she's the one that knows for sure.  Let her know that it's important that you guys talk, and I'm sure she'll make time.[/b]


Yep, you've gotten some good advice here, OP. If you feel invested -- which it sounds like you do -- then best approach is to facilitate some open communication. She may not want to communicate, and if not, that's fine -- just means she may not be best for you at this time.

Describe the situation (objectively, with an emphasis on your experience... not "you" statements), express how you feel, be assertive in stating what you want (e.g., a conversation about apparent changes in your dynamic), and be respectful. If the end goal is to get her to listen to you and be open about her perspective and feelings, you want to take this approach to maximize the chances of that happening.

This is well-documented in the interpersonal effectiveness literature of psychology. Originally intended for folks with borderline personality disorder, but is now widely used for all walks of life. The acronym is DEAR-MAN -- we only got to the DEAR part here, but if she is indeed pregnant, we will have to incorporate MAN immediately. Kidding, but it does work... psychologists DEAR-MAN each other all day long (foulweatherfan, if you're reading this, your input would be interesting). :)

Good luck. Feel free to PM, if you'd like. And go Celtics!


Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: crimson_stallion on October 23, 2015, 12:04:01 AM
While us men tend to have pretty simple minds, women can be complex creatures - it's part of their charm!

In a situation like this, guy tend to think of the first (and most obvious) thing that comes to mind - that shes not interested in your anymore.  While that would make sense given the signs, it may be something else entirely.

There could be any manner of reasons for her being this way:

1) Maybe she is losing interest / has another man

2) Maybe she has something going on in her personal life that she's not comfortable telling you about (e.g family business, health issues, etc).

3) Maybe you did something to upset / anger her, and you just didn't realise it.  Women have a tendency to say nothing when you do something to annoy them - many don't like confrontation so they just go quiet, get distant, pull away.  The problem may not be her - it may be you.

4) Maybe she is legitimately more busy than you realise.  Most people have general day to day things they go through they they don't talk about simply because it doesn't seem that exciting or relevant. 

5) Maybe she is stressed about school, and she's trying to avoid distractions and focus 100% on the task at hand

Truth is that people in general are complex, and jumping to conclusions without digging deeper is dangerous business. You might find out she has another issue that isn't related to you at all, that is really upsetting her / bothering her...and if you start making assumption and throwing accusations it might just set her off and push her away.

My advice is to have that conversation, and try your best to be as open and understanding as possible - hear what she has to say.  If she keeps avoiding the conversation, then explain to her that the reason you want to talk about it is because the relationship is meaningful to you, and you don't want to see it die.  That might be enough to trigger something in her head and help her understand the extent of your concern. 

If she seems disinterested and seems to not care, or she avoids the subject, then be willing to walk away.  You've done your part - you've been a man, taken action and tried to do what you can to fix it.  If she isn't interested in doing that, then no point in wasting your time. 

Of course that's purely my opinion (and how I would handle it) thought!
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Post by: fandrew on October 23, 2015, 12:19:17 AM
Maybe she's pregnant... With your kid...
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Csfan1984 on October 23, 2015, 12:22:47 AM
I'd just pretend I don't have a girlfriend without misbehaving. Seems to get their attention real quick.

What I mean is dont pay her no attention but still be courteous. Like text good morning and good night. But that is it unless she hits you up and starts to conversate. Reply politely but be distant and low on details. Make plans without her but fill her in like she has no choice in the matter on what you do with your time. See what happens in 2 weeks.

If she starts showing added attention text you more or demanding time even if a little she probably has been just busy. But if she is even more distant than just find another chick because she ain't into you no more.

Oh and last one is a big one. Sometimes pregnant women avoid a soon would be father of their child to make abortion a non-option due to development rather than come out and tell them. JS
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Post by: blink on October 23, 2015, 12:35:53 AM
I have to say I think the best advice that you received was the 'communicate' response.  If you do want the relationship to continue, I would say try talking it out with her. 

In the end though, if she isn't interested anymore, you might not get the chance or any closure.  Actions speak louder than words.  If she doesn't make time (within a week or two) to talk about it, I would say that is a response too.  If a girl is into you, she will make time.
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Post by: KG Living Legend on October 23, 2015, 12:49:00 AM
 
 Soundslike something is fishy. Tell her your thinking about seeing other people, see if she takes the bait and agrees which means there is another guy. Or Ignore her and start getting other girls numbers and increase your portfolio.
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Post by: crimson_stallion on October 23, 2015, 02:24:18 AM
I'd just pretend I don't have a girlfriend without misbehaving. Seems to get their attention real quick.

This!

I have to say, it seems to work for me almost every time.  Girls don't like being ignored when they are giving you the cold shoulder.  Convinces them that maybe you really don't care, which drives them crazy.  Tends to work on even the most strong willed of women. 

In fact it's so effective that it almost feels like cheating - like playing a video game with god mode on.

As guys we tend to be simpler creatures - we just want to be straight up and say it as it is.  No mind games, no bs.  Doesn't always work with women though, and sometimes you need to resort to the undesirable approach of playing them at their own game.  Not because you want to, just because nothing else gets through. 
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Post by: crimson_stallion on October 23, 2015, 02:34:23 AM

 Soundslike something is fishy. Tell her your thinking about seeing other people, see if she takes the bait and agrees which means there is another guy. Or Ignore her and start getting other girls numbers and increase your portfolio.

This can work, but you have to be careful - it can backfire in a massive way. 

When you are trying to say "the way you're acting is giving me second thoughts about the relationship" might be interpreted by her as "I am bored of you and want to get with other girls". 

Once a girl hears what she wants to hear, they tend to get irrational - you will never be able to use rational communication to convince them that this is not what you meant.  Her mind is set, and those words of 'intent' are locked in her memory forever.

If she is loyal to you and has legit reasons for bring the way she is (e.g. you did something to pus her off, or something else in her life is upsetting her) then one sentence like that could be enough to cause the entire relationship to self-destruct. 

If you do really care about her, then I wouldn't suggest taking that gamble.  If you don't care about her all that much and you feel she is more or less 'disposable' then you probably wouldn't be here asking this question right now - you'd probably have just walked away. 
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Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 23, 2015, 02:58:13 AM
It's fine to subtly make overtures that you're sought after, a catch, etc.. but you don't want to play games. If you play games, you're setting a precedent for yourself and your entire relationship that that's okay... that's how we operate, it's business as usual.

If you don't want a "gamey" relationship long-term, then you don't want to set that precedent. This may/may not be relevant here, but when you experience several relationships and start to determine what you want/what works for you, you're going to want to model what you need in a significant other.
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Post by: chambers on October 23, 2015, 03:37:53 AM
Yeah she's got another dude somewhere but doesn't know how to tell you.

Just ask her if you two can 'talk'. Or even send her a text asking if she'd prefer you guys have some space? And that you understand if that's the case.

Time to gallop the fields young stallion. You've been set free.

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Post by: clover on October 23, 2015, 06:17:54 AM
I'm a student and I can attest to how busy it gets, I haven't had a proper day off in 2 months or so. Especially around this time when we are overloaded with midterms and the such. She probably really is really busy, especially paired with a job

I work 45 hours. Attend 14 credit classes which is considered full time, and love sleep more than I love money. But I would be willing to make at least one day free or available for her. If I was too busy for a relationship, then I would never get in one personally. I just think its rude, because unless you guys have established a rapport strong enough over a year, then its okay to be too busy, but for some people it gives off the feeling, 'is she not interested anymore? Cheating on me? Or is she exploring her options while being with me momentarily?'

Maybe its just me, I don't know. I mean I'm empathetic, because school does get busy considering what type of level classes she's taking, but I still feel you should be able to make at least one day to chat and talk. But I mean I'm going to meet up with her hopefully by next week to see what's up.

I was actually very close to texting her, that maybe taking a break would be the best for both of us a few hours ago, but I decided to make a thread about this. I appreciated the cold hard truths you guys gave me in my old girl problem thread.

You guys are amazing. Thanks for your help.

Can you afford a private investigator?

Depends on how expensive they are lol.

Two or three months isn't a very long time at all, and I take it you're both young. But working and taking demanding classes shouldn't necessarily leave a day free to just kick around every week. And pressure to deliver on that could be pretty unpleasant. Far better IMO if you and she had got into a pattern of spending time together and supporting each other in a way that it was natural just to spend some evenings studying together. You should be a help, not a hindrance, to her balancing of school and work.

If you're suspecting another love interest and want to walk her to class holding hands, especially when she might be feeling some ambivalence, that would probably be felt and perceived as very territorial and possessive and not very pleasant.

I guess I'm with the others. Better to go focus on your life and leave her alone. If she's interested, she'll come back to you.
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Post by: KeepRondo on October 23, 2015, 08:47:31 AM
I wouldn't over react to her not wanting to hold hands. If she did hold hands with you before, it may had been because she didn't want to do anything to make herself look bad to you, but she may not like holding hands in public.

I say just don't think too much into it and let things play out. Ask her in 3-4 days to go out for dinner or lunch.
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Post by: slamtheking on October 23, 2015, 08:54:13 AM
best advice so far was to communicate but totally sounds like you're not even getting that opportunity. 

based on what you've mentioned, it does sound like she's not as into the relationship (is it really a relationship after just 2-3 months which includes weeks of little to no time together?) as you are.  it happens and it doesn't usually improve for the person who's into the relationship (based on my experience and observations). 

if she's unwilling to get together to talk briefly about what's going on, chances are slim you'll ever get that chance.  if you can't get some time together in the next week or two, your relationship is likely toast  unfortunately. 
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Post by: TheTruthFot18 on October 23, 2015, 09:30:20 AM
I was her first, taken her virginity

I would think this would be a hook, line, and sinker in this situation. You got burned, move on.

2-3 months is not that long so don't get worked up. Any guy or girl who takes this approach to dealing wit any relationship is not worth your time and needs to grow up.
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Post by: Pucaccia on October 23, 2015, 11:16:40 AM
Very simple and it works like magic.

Tell her to call you the next time you want to get together and then leave it alone.  Make sure you don't contact her after that. See if she contacts you.
You don't have to break it off. If she contacts you then you can do 1 of 2 things, 1.go out or 2.the best thing is tell her your busy but you can get with her at a time of your choosing. (You set the agenda)

But make sure you go on with your business with high self esteem. Don't coddle, don't whine, just go about your business as a confident man.
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Post by: KeepRondo on October 23, 2015, 11:20:30 AM
Very simple and it works like magic.

Tell her to call you the next time you want to get together and then leave it alone.  Make sure you don't contact her after that. See if she contacts you.
You don't have to break it off. If she contacts you then you can do 1 of 2 things, 1.go out or 2.the best thing is tell her your busy but you can get with her at a time of your choosing. (You set the agenda)

But make sure you go on with your business with high self esteem. Don't coddle, don't whine, just go about your business as a confident man.
Simple is almost always the best thing. I don't agree with this whole post, but I do like the idea of telling her to call you the next time she's free to go out for a drink or something.

At that point leave it alone. It's up to her to make the decision.
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Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on October 23, 2015, 11:53:43 AM
I'd just pretend I don't have a girlfriend without misbehaving. Seems to get their attention real quick.

This!

I have to say, it seems to work for me almost every time.  Girls don't like being ignored when they are giving you the cold shoulder.  Convinces them that maybe you really don't care, which drives them crazy.  Tends to work on even the most strong willed of women. 

In fact it's so effective that it almost feels like cheating - like playing a video game with god mode on.

As guys we tend to be simpler creatures - we just want to be straight up and say it as it is.  No mind games, no bs.  Doesn't always work with women though, and sometimes you need to resort to the undesirable approach of playing them at their own game.  Not because you want to, just because nothing else gets through.

boom
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Post by: mgent on October 24, 2015, 08:09:49 AM
Oh and last one is a big one. Sometimes pregnant women avoid a soon would be father of their child to make abortion a non-option due to development rather than come out and tell them. JS

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Post by: Csfan1984 on October 24, 2015, 12:28:54 PM
Oh and last one is a big one. Sometimes pregnant women avoid a soon would be father of their child to make abortion a non-option due to development rather than come out and tell them. JS

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It's kind of what another poster mentioned. Pregnant women may become distant. Some women however do it on purpose to hide the early pregnacy signs and thus avoid abortion debate with the father. After 12 weeks personal health concerns start to come into effect just adding to the pros of keeping the baby.
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Post by: KeepRondo on October 24, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
Oh and last one is a big one. Sometimes pregnant women avoid a soon would be father of their child to make abortion a non-option due to development rather than come out and tell them. JS

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It's kind of what another poster mentioned. Pregnant women may become distant. Some women however do it on purpose to hide the early pregnacy signs and thus avoid abortion debate with the father. After 12 weeks personal health concerns start to come into effect just adding to the pros of keeping the baby.
Interesting.

OP - did you use protection?

???
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Post by: Eja117 on October 24, 2015, 01:21:17 PM
Assuming she didn't get pregnant (a pretty bad assumption) the "communicate" advice isn't the best advice because she clearly doesn't want to. Women need to be prompted to communicate like men need to be prompted to drink beer or watch football.  If she cared she'd tell you exactly what she's busy with and when she won't be busy. 

Start talking to other women that don't blow you off.  If she gives a darn she will get this at some point and then explain why she was busy and come back.

But you definitely need to deal with some pregnancy realities right now.
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Post by: Ogaju on October 24, 2015, 02:10:02 PM
looks like this woman turned you out, and you did not turn are out, but that is speculation.

Where I am going is you need to give the forum more facts to get effective advice. For instance, how old is this woman, does she live with her parents, is she religious, etc. What were the circumstances of that 'first time'. I am not saying you have to spill your guts here, but this are some of the facts you need to give to someone you trust in order to get a considered opinion.

From the little you have given it seems the best advice so far is the advice to communicate. Tell her basically what you told the forum, and then ask what's up.
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Post by: fairweatherfan on October 24, 2015, 02:49:36 PM
It's interesting how the responses are split almost 50-50 between "try to communicate with her" and "try to deliberately be even worse at communicating than she is".  Would love to see a demographic breakdown of each side.
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Post by: KeepRondo on October 24, 2015, 03:12:34 PM
It's interesting how the responses are split almost 50-50 between "try to communicate with her" and "try to deliberately be even worse at communicating than she is".  Would love to see a demographic breakdown of each side.
I still say keep it simple. All these examples may work for other guys who ignore the chick, but they may be smoother with the women or they may be better looking then the OP.

The OP should just ask her to call him to go out for a drink when she's less busy. That way he's not completely ignoring her. If she blows him off, then so be it. And if she was actually busy, then no harm was done by not over crowding her with nonsense.
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Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 24, 2015, 03:15:57 PM
And by demographic, especially interested in age.
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Post by: Redz on October 24, 2015, 03:27:51 PM
looks like this woman turned you out, and you did not turn are out, but that is speculation.

Where I am going is you need to give the forum more facts to get effective advice. For instance, how old is this woman, does she live with her parents, is she religious, etc. What were the circumstances of that 'first time'. I am not saying you have to spill your guts here, but this are some of the facts you need to give to someone you trust in order to get a considered opinion.

From the little you have given it seems the best advice so far is the advice to communicate. Tell her basically what you told the forum, and then ask what's up.

Be sure to start it out with something like "So, I was bouncing our situation by several thousand Celtics fans on line and they seemed to think..."
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Post by: Ogaju on October 24, 2015, 03:42:29 PM
looks like this woman turned you out, and you did not turn are out, but that is speculation.

Where I am going is you need to give the forum more facts to get effective advice. For instance, how old is this woman, does she live with her parents, is she religious, etc. What were the circumstances of that 'first time'. I am not saying you have to spill your guts here, but this are some of the facts you need to give to someone you trust in order to get a considered opinion.

From the little you have given it seems the best advice so far is the advice to communicate. Tell her basically what you told the forum, and then ask what's up.

Be sure to start it out with something like "So, I was bouncing our situation by several thousand Celtics fans on line and they seemed to think..."

I said tell her what you told the forum, not tell her you told the forum. Get it???
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Redz on October 24, 2015, 03:47:34 PM
looks like this woman turned you out, and you did not turn are out, but that is speculation.

Where I am going is you need to give the forum more facts to get effective advice. For instance, how old is this woman, does she live with her parents, is she religious, etc. What were the circumstances of that 'first time'. I am not saying you have to spill your guts here, but this are some of the facts you need to give to someone you trust in order to get a considered opinion.

From the little you have given it seems the best advice so far is the advice to communicate. Tell her basically what you told the forum, and then ask what's up.

Be sure to start it out with something like "So, I was bouncing our situation by several thousand Celtics fans on line and they seemed to think..."

I said tell her what you told the forum, not tell her you told the forum. Get it???

Yep.  Sorry wasn't suggesting you said to do so, just generally pointing out that she'd probably be mortified if she found out this many opinions were being solicited. 
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Eja117 on October 24, 2015, 03:49:26 PM
looks like this woman turned you out, and you did not turn are out, but that is speculation.

Where I am going is you need to give the forum more facts to get effective advice. For instance, how old is this woman, does she live with her parents, is she religious, etc. What were the circumstances of that 'first time'. I am not saying you have to spill your guts here, but this are some of the facts you need to give to someone you trust in order to get a considered opinion.

From the little you have given it seems the best advice so far is the advice to communicate. Tell her basically what you told the forum, and then ask what's up.

Be sure to start it out with something like "So, I was bouncing our situation by several thousand Celtics fans on line and they seemed to think..."

I said tell her what you told the forum, not tell her you told the forum. Get it???

Yep.  Sorry wasn't suggesting you said to do so, just generally pointing out that she'd probably be mortified if she found out this many opinions were being solicited.
idk...names were withheld to protect the guilty
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Redz on October 24, 2015, 03:51:34 PM
looks like this woman turned you out, and you did not turn are out, but that is speculation.

Where I am going is you need to give the forum more facts to get effective advice. For instance, how old is this woman, does she live with her parents, is she religious, etc. What were the circumstances of that 'first time'. I am not saying you have to spill your guts here, but this are some of the facts you need to give to someone you trust in order to get a considered opinion.

From the little you have given it seems the best advice so far is the advice to communicate. Tell her basically what you told the forum, and then ask what's up.

Be sure to start it out with something like "So, I was bouncing our situation by several thousand Celtics fans on line and they seemed to think..."

I said tell her what you told the forum, not tell her you told the forum. Get it???

Yep.  Sorry wasn't suggesting you said to do so, just generally pointing out that she'd probably be mortified if she found out this many opinions were being solicited.
idk...names were withheld to protect the guilty

Lord knows I bared my soul many a time in this forum.  I just do less of it now!
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: TheLegendaryClub on October 24, 2015, 04:23:58 PM
Pretty shocked to see that one of the most popular reactions is "punish her by cutting her off." That displays a pretty intense lack of sympathy for a person you supposedly care about. Something could be seriously wrong in her personal life--she could be feeling overwhelmed by school, she could be feeling depressed, she could have something going on with her family. Before you jump to conclusions about her behavior, try asking her what's wrong in a genuinely concerned, non-accusatory manner. IF she continues to blow you off, THEN you can decide whether it's worth pursuing things with her own not.

If you're pursuing a relationship with someone your first reaction should always be compassionate, not punitive. You can't just put your feelings/needs first without giving the other person a chance to express hers.
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Eja117 on October 24, 2015, 05:31:37 PM
Sounds to me like she had multiple chances.
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: mgent on October 24, 2015, 08:46:20 PM
It's interesting how the responses are split almost 50-50 between "try to communicate with her" and "try to deliberately be even worse at communicating than she is".  Would love to see a demographic breakdown of each side.

Literally laughing my ass off at this and Redz' response.
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: mgent on October 24, 2015, 08:51:07 PM
It's interesting how the responses are split almost 50-50 between "try to communicate with her" and "try to deliberately be even worse at communicating than she is".  Would love to see a demographic breakdown of each side.
I still say keep it simple. All these examples may work for other guys who ignore the chick, but they may be smoother with the women or they may be better looking then the OP.

The OP should just ask her to call him to go out for a drink when she's less busy. That way he's not completely ignoring her. If she blows him off, then so be it. And if she was actually busy, then no harm was done by not over crowding her with nonsense.

This post gave me 2 interesting thoughts.

1.  We need a picture of you with the woman in order to determine the likelihood of her juggling you with another guy(s).

2.  Maybe you should get her drunk and then she'll probably spill the truth.
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Post by: hwangjini_1 on October 24, 2015, 09:08:01 PM
after reading the 4 pages of this thread it is painfully obvious that the male members of cb have absolutely no Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing idea in hell about how to work a relationship with a woman.

this thread is truly a case of the blind leading the stupid.
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: zubi.anaba on October 24, 2015, 09:27:56 PM
I always follow my instincts. If i start to get the hint she aint interested or etc!! I am moving on to the next. Way too many women out there to be stressing yourself over one particular girl. Just end making yourself look sad and desperate. Women are all to willing to take advantage of a dude like that
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Post by: Granath on October 24, 2015, 09:29:03 PM
after reading the 4 pages of this thread it is painfully obvious that the male members of cb have absolutely no ****ing idea in hell about how to work a relationship with a woman.

this thread is truly a case of the blind leading the stupid.

But it is quite entertaining for those of us who know better or for those of us who have been married for 30 years and don't have to know better anymore.
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: crimson_stallion on October 24, 2015, 09:41:56 PM
after reading the 4 pages of this thread it is painfully obvious that the male members of cb have absolutely no ****ing idea in hell about how to work a relationship with a woman.

this thread is truly a case of the blind leading the stupid.

Please, oh mighty lord of women, enlighten the world's men with your great wisdom.

 :D
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Post by: Ogaju on October 24, 2015, 09:48:09 PM
after reading the 4 pages of this thread it is painfully obvious that the male members of cb have absolutely no ****ing idea in hell about how to work a relationship with a woman.

this thread is truly a case of the blind leading the stupid.

Are you suggesting it is one size fits all. Because if you are you are WRONG. Relationships are dynamic and not static. Your post suggests you may be one of the (fill in the blank).
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Ogaju on October 24, 2015, 09:49:42 PM
after reading the 4 pages of this thread it is painfully obvious that the male members of cb have absolutely no ****ing idea in hell about how to work a relationship with a woman.

this thread is truly a case of the blind leading the stupid.

Please, oh mighty lord of women, enlighten the world's men with your great wisdom.

 :D

Exactly, TP !!!
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Post by: colincb on October 24, 2015, 09:54:49 PM
after reading the 4 pages of this thread it is painfully obvious that the male members of cb have absolutely no ****ing idea in hell about how to work a relationship with a woman.

this thread is truly a case of the blind leading the stupid.

But it is quite entertaining for those of us who know better or for those of us who have been married for 30 years and don't have to know better anymore.


Especially if you have a daughter over 20 looking for marriageable men. Most of the posters here are relatively young males.

Not much hope for the OP in any case. Move on.
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Post by: Redz on October 24, 2015, 10:41:44 PM
I always follow my instincts. If i start to get the hint she aint interested or etc!! I am moving on to the next. Way too many women out there to be stressing yourself over one particular girl. Just end making yourself look sad and desperate. Women are all to willing to take advantage of a dude like that

hopeless romantic alert  ;D
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Post by: Eja117 on October 24, 2015, 11:19:31 PM
after reading the 4 pages of this thread it is painfully obvious that the male members of cb have absolutely no ****ing idea in hell about how to work a relationship with a woman.

this thread is truly a case of the blind leading the stupid.

Are you suggesting it is one size fits all. Because if you are you are WRONG. Relationships are dynamic and not static. Your post suggests you may be one of the (fill in the blank).
Well of course one size doesn't fit all, but some sizes are a bad idea
Title: Re: Is she avoiding me, or 'really,' busy? Just wondering what you guys think.
Post by: Eja117 on October 25, 2015, 09:38:22 AM
Mrs. eja has concurred he should let this one go.

I also want to add that it sounds to me like it's possible she is too good for you. I mean did you tell her that she's really wanted? Did you tell her that she's the one? Did you tell her that it's gonna last forever?

Then according to Bryan Adams you never really loved this woman.

In which case it shouldn't be a big deal.

Bryan Adams is silent on the concept of casually texting in order to maintain a relationship. When a woman says she's busy you show up with Chinese food cause she's studying and leave 10 minutes later. You don't wait a few days and text again.

You need to go back to romance school before you try this again. You may need to suffer through some Julia Roberts movies, which is fate worse than death, but having no woman is fate worse than that.
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Post by: gift on October 25, 2015, 09:49:22 AM
Mrs. eja has concurred he should let this one go.

I also want to add that it sounds to me like it's possible she is too good for you. I mean did you tell her that she's really wanted? Did you tell her that she's the one? Did you tell her that it's gonna last forever?

Then according to Bryan Adams you never really loved this woman.

In which case it shouldn't be a big deal.

Bryan Adams is silent on the concept of casually texting in order to maintain a relationship. When a woman says she's busy you show up with Chinese food cause she's studying and leave 10 minutes later. You don't wait a few days and text again.

You need to go back to romance school before you try this again. You may need to suffer through some Julia Roberts movies, which is fate worse than death, but having no woman is fate worse than that.

You may have just strung together the most profound sequence of words ever written in the English language.
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Post by: Redz on October 25, 2015, 10:18:33 AM
Mrs. eja has concurred he should let this one go.

I also want to add that it sounds to me like it's possible she is too good for you. I mean did you tell her that she's really wanted? Did you tell her that she's the one? Did you tell her that it's gonna last forever?

Then according to Bryan Adams you never really loved this woman.

In which case it shouldn't be a big deal.

Bryan Adams is silent on the concept of casually texting in order to maintain a relationship. When a woman says she's busy you show up with Chinese food cause she's studying and leave 10 minutes later. You don't wait a few days and text again.

You need to go back to romance school before you try this again. You may need to suffer through some Julia Roberts movies, which is fate worse than death, but having no woman is fate worse than that.

from Summer of '69 to I Will Be Right Here Waiting For You, Bryan Adams tells it all