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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: Erik on August 20, 2018, 05:04:19 PM
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The obligatory annual celtics Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. post where Kyrie, hayward and horford are fringe stars on ESPN went live.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24380606/nba-superteam-rankings-warriors-rockets-celtics-teams-most-star-power
At least this year they admitted their system means nothing as theyre the favorites to win the east. Waste of time. Felt like giving you guys a laugh.
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Yeah, their methodology is terrible, which is basically why the disregard it when listing the teams.
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Yeah, Kyrie, Hayward and Horford are fringe stars, but Ben Simmons and Porzingis are already MVP candidates ::)
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Overheard two weeks ago, in the ESPN conference room: "Hey, we're not getting enough clicks and we've lost almost every writer with a shred of journalistic ability. Let's design an NBA ranking system that translates a bogus advanced metric into an arbitrary point system, the result of which are team rankings that have no correlation to anything meaningful on the court!"
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Points -
Horford 2
Irving 2
Hayward 1
IT 3
Melo 2
Lillard 8
Covington 3
While...
Paul George 2
Beal 1
Yeah, makes total sense. An It, Melo, and Covington led team would probably be the worst team in the league, but ESPN would have them ahead of the C's.
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Only needed to read as far as the first mention of RPM before I knew this would be garbage.
I'm not sure what amazes me more, that ESPN continues to push that nonsense, or that there are people stupid enough to buy into it.
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Points -
Horford 2
Irving 2
Hayward 1
IT 3
Melo 2
Lillard 8
Covington 3
While...
Paul George 2
Beal 1
Yeah, makes total sense. An It, Melo, and Covington led team would probably be the worst team in the league, but ESPN would have them ahead of the C's.
Lol, Beal and Hayward being 1/3 of fricken Covington is hilarious
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Yea covington as a star is ridiculous.
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espn will never give up. never give up...
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As long as we're playing in June 2019 they can call us whatever they want, lol
June 17, 2019 - to be exact. That will be our 11th anniversary of that glorious game 6 win over our hated rivals the Lakers.
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Only needed to read as far as the first mention of RPM before I knew this would be garbage.
I'm not sure what amazes me more, that ESPN continues to push that nonsense, or that there are people stupid enough to buy into it.
Yup...TP my friend.
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That article and methodology is so dumb.
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If we could only trade Kyrie + Hayward + Horford for IT + Milsap + Jokic... then we'd be a *real* team!
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man I can't wait for training camp / the season to get here.
Our team is going to be great...enough of all the projections / predictions. Lets get to playing games and see how many teams really want to see us on nightly basis. Once we get acclimated back to having GH in the lineup we going to be tough to stop.
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Face it, ESPN hates us and disses on us any chance they get.
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I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?
Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.
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Come on it was based on the last 3 seasons (when both Irving and Hayward have missed significant time) and actual finishes on All NBA Teams or in RPM. Now RPM is a silly statistic, but those rankings have absolutely nothing to do with the current season or where they project players will end up this year. Not surprisingly lots of overreaction on this blog.
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I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?
Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.
I feel like if you judge CP3's resume / reputation, championship excluded, you could rate him really high. IMO but speaking objectively, he's probably one of the 5 best PGs of all time.
What I find even stranger is Lillard is something like a 9 right, and Kyrie is a 2? Lillard seems like one of the better comps for Kyrie as an individual player, but Kyrie has a ring and more AS appearances despite being years younger... and he's less than 25% of Lillard? Huh? That's simply indefensible.
I didn't click on the article because I don't want to give ESPN traffic, but I'm tempted to check it out because it will help me quickly and very simply reverse engineer which basketball statistics are utterly useless.
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I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?
Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.
The first paragraph pretty clearly explains their points.
▪Five points: First-team All-NBA or a top-5 finish in RPM
▪Three points: Second-team All-NBA or a top-10 finish in RPM
▪One point: Third-team All-NBA, All-Star selection or a top-15 finish in RPM
They took the last 3 seasons.
Chris Paul got 15 points because in each of the last 3 seasons he was either 1st Team All NBA or finished in the top 5 in RPM.
It really is that simple.
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Well, I guess this confirms it: the Cavs won the Kyrie trade. They got a 3 star player, while we just got a two star player.
[dang].
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Come on it was based on the last 3 seasons (when both Irving and Hayward have missed significant time) and actual finishes on All NBA Teams or in RPM. Now RPM is a silly statistic, but those rankings have absolutely nothing to do with the current season or where they project players will end up this year. Not surprisingly lots of overreaction on this blog.
And not surprisingly, you defend anything anti-celtic.
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Who cares? That Kyrie wasn't all nba last season makes it an irrelevant honor, other than it can help overrated players like KAT get a supermax.
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TP to OP for the funny subject line.
Mike
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I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?
Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.
Chris Paul and Karl Malone.....so many titles between them :)
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I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?
Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.
Chris Paul and Karl Malone.....so many titles between them :)
Could you imagine a Finals matchup between Chris Paul and John Stockton? Who would finally get that elusive championship? I say Chris Paul gets injured 5 minutes into game one and ends up missing the series. His backup does a decent enough job and helps his team win the title. John Stockton loses another Finals, while Chris Paul gets no credit because he missed virtually the entire series.