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Title: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: dwlefty13 on April 03, 2018, 06:31:36 PM
Patriots trade WR Brandin Cooks and fourth-round pick to Rams for No. 23 pick in the 2018 draft. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23019268/new-england-patriots-trading-brandin-cooks-los-angeles-rams
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: Jiri Welsch on April 03, 2018, 06:36:23 PM
I get it, but it pains me.

Where’s our deep threat? Hogan and/or Mitchell I guess
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on April 03, 2018, 06:39:13 PM
Wow. I did NOT see this one coming.

I get it, but it pains me.

Where’s our deep threat? Hogan and/or Mitchell I guess

Hogan's a pretty good deep threat. Not sure about Mitchell, as he's still developing, but he's certainly a good receiver, generally speaking.
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: nickagneta on April 03, 2018, 06:40:14 PM
So do they package the first rounders to the Giants for Odell Beckham Jr?
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: Csfan1984 on April 03, 2018, 06:58:11 PM
Rams are going to be serious threat in the NFC if not the favorite
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: Smartacus on April 03, 2018, 07:10:15 PM
This might sound reactionary, but for me this completely makes up for getting a 2nd round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo. Taking advantage of the LA hype train by trading away an overrated -frankly soft- wide receiver who only had somewhat good chemistry with Tom Brady for a first rounder is a coup.

If they trade it for Odell gravy, we reach uncharted territories in offensive talent.

If they use the picks I believe that Belichick will build this team for either the present or the future whichever makes more sense, but I'm all for this transaction.

Calling the Rams all in play while dumping Brandon Cooks for a first? Thats the kind of move that dynastic franchises make. I bet the Rams meanwhile are just a has been team within 3 years.
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: BitterJim on April 03, 2018, 07:25:04 PM
This might sound reactionary, but for me this completely makes up for getting a 2nd round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo. Taking advantage of the LA hype train by trading away an overrated -frankly soft- wide receiver who only had somewhat good chemistry with Tom Brady for a first rounder is a coup.

If they trade it for Odell gravy, we reach uncharted territories in offensive talent.

If they use the picks I believe that Belichick will build this team for either the present or the future whichever makes more sense, but I'm all for this transaction.

Calling the Rams all in play while dumping Brandon Cooks for a first? Thats the kind of move that dynastic franchises make. I bet the Rams meanwhile are just a has been team within 3 years.

I don't think the Rams would mind being a has-been team in 3 years.  Their fear should be being a never-was team in 3 years
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: Ilikesports17 on April 03, 2018, 07:30:18 PM
So do they package the first rounders to the Giants for Odell Beckham Jr?
Doubt it, but OBJ/Gronk/Edelman would be Brady's best receiving core ever.

No I'm not forgetting '07 which was a better team and a better offense, but NOT a better host of targets.
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: Roy H. on April 03, 2018, 07:40:34 PM
I don’t understand a “win now” team with an aging QB giving up its #1 receiver. Cooks will almost certainly generate more value over the next two seasons than the draft pick.

Unless there’s a follow up move, I don’t like it for the Pats, good value or not.
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: Rondo2287 on April 03, 2018, 07:59:13 PM
I don’t understand a “win now” team with an aging QB giving up its #1 receiver. Cooks will almost certainly generate more value over the next two seasons than the draft pick.

Unless there’s a follow up move, I don’t like it for the Pats, good value or not.

Cooks would be the #3 receiver next year behind Edelman and Gronk for what it’s worth
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: jambr380 on April 03, 2018, 08:11:19 PM
I just saw this scroll across the bottom of my television. I think this is great value given that the Pats were unlikely to give him a big pay day next off-season. I understand people being unsure of this move for the immediate future (Brady isn't getting any younger), but we didn't have Cooks when we won our last two Super Bowls and I imagine there is a plan to shore up the WR position with Amendola also gone. Edelman and Mitchell returning should also really help.
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 03, 2018, 08:11:30 PM
I’d feel better if Amendola was still here, but Malcolm Mitchell will be back and hopefully Edelman will be back close to 100%.  I like Bill operating on draft day with 23, 31, and 43.
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: Phantom255x on April 03, 2018, 08:39:55 PM
Love my Pats and still think Brady and this dynasty has at least 2-3 years left (barring major injury), but dang, from the Super Bowl to now, the Patriots are really making a lot of questionable moves IMO. Honestly most of this summer will probably be filled with doubts/questions about this team and whether they can make the SB next year.
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: Vermont Green on April 03, 2018, 09:42:59 PM
We still have Kenny Britt.  He will probably do more for us than Cooks did.  Malcolm Mitchell needs to prove he can stay on the field (I have my doubts) but with Edelman and Hogan along with Britt, we should be fine.  Draft some O-Line depth with the picks.
Title: Re: Patriots trade Cooks to Rams for 1st round pick!
Post by: green_bballers13 on April 03, 2018, 09:59:51 PM
I don’t understand a “win now” team with an aging QB giving up its #1 receiver. Cooks will almost certainly generate more value over the next two seasons than the draft pick.

Unless there’s a follow up move, I don’t like it for the Pats, good value or not.

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. The Patriots have needs at tackle, WR, and could use a playmaker or two on the defense. They will get Hightower back and this kid Clayborn might be good.

I highly doubt that Bill stands pat with those draft picks. While I'm not sure Odell Beckham is the target, I'd be ok with a Larry Fitz/Dez Bryant type wideout. While I much prefer Fitz, both are physical receivers that can go up and get a ball.

Scarnecchia will have the opportunity to either identify a potentially available tackle in the NFL or pick one of the better tackles available in the draft.