I would urge the mods to consider the subject broached and urge that next time the subject gets brought up that maybe they take the perception concerns a little more seriously, instead of passing them off as veiled passive aggresive attacks on various posters, mods, or Celticsblog itself.
If you think its a "serious problem" I suggest you take it more seriously be actually giving us enough information to address these "issues".
I said you could take the problem a little more seriously, not that it was a serious problem, per se. My beef--outside of what I think is Celticsblog's perception problem--is that some questioned my motive, and didn't address my concerns.
I'd also urge you to read a little more carefully too. If that sounds snide, or condescending, don't take it that way--it's just you've mis-read/mis-characterized what I've written multiple times already. And you've done so while questioning my motive--not cool.
I have to use quotes around those because you have yet to say antyhing other than:
1. Its a perception issue
2. Its not your perception
Well, not quite (see my reading comprehension aside above). I believe the mods aren't biased
in reality, but I also agree with the
perception that there's favoritism in this site's moderation. If that doesn't make sense, I'd urge you to reread the thread.
Now, obviously we can't agree on whether there's a perception problem in the first place. As there are relatively few of us even arguing the other side, I'm prepared to drop it for now. I only urge you to remember these concerns when they crop up again in the future, as they invariably will, instead of dismissing them as rantings of an angry minority, something which is a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
3. You have no examples
I've addressed the 'lack' of examples in a previous post. "Perception" by its nature isn't created by this or that example, it's created by millions of differing examples, feelings, impressions, etc. So, examples aren't germane to this conversation. Further, if I were to bring some in, you'd just minimize their importance by pointing out that those examples--however many I brought in--are just the angry minority, therby using the nature of perception (that it's built up over time via hundreds/thousands/million of experiences) to discount my particular perception. I'm not going to play that game.
And, technically, I have presented 'examples,' mainly the phenomenon whereby departing members cite the in-crowd/out-crowd, percieved favoritism as a reason or the reason for their leaving.
4. You can't/won't tell us who holds these views
I have; specifically I've said that while I believe the mods in general aren't biased, I can still see and agree with the perception that there is favoritism in play, a
perception fed by the lack of transperancy, the role of interpersonal conflict or rapport on the perception of rule breaking, and the inabilty to completely police the site.
And if you want more names, just go through the "I'm leaving" threads.
5. Your solution is for us to take PR more seriously.
Yep; an ombudsman would be a great start, provided you could find someone the mods
and members would respect.
6. Despite replies from many different mods asking for specifics and giving their viewpoints we're not "taking it seriously". By which I guess you mean we disagree with your viewpoint.
Well, this is pretty much point #3 all over again, right? I get that you disagree with the viewpoint that Celticblog has a perception problem; what I don't get is the need to impugn my motives instead of coming right out with your disagreement. Like I said, arbiters of disagreement have a duty to recognize their limitations while attempting to look at both sides. It seems as if you and some others would rather simply jump to defend your perception by questioning the motives of perceptions that don't agree with yours. You need to start any disagreement by recognizing the validity of the other party's view point--sadly, something that's been missing here.
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Listen, I'm ready to drop this. It only started as an observation and I really didn't intend it to go further than that. I don't expect to convince anyone right now, all I ask is to remember the concern the next time it comes up, and to maybe, at that point, be prepared to take it seriously.