Woj: Jrue to Celtics

[jpotter33]

Are we really doing this? Brogdon was not helpful pretty much most of the playoffs last year, largely because he was injured. And guess what, he was injured with a season-ending injury yet again this year. So not sure how helpful that would've been.

As for Smart, I'm not even sure how he is brought up here, as we traded Smart for KP months before getting Jrue, so it was never even a possibility.

But, no, we wouldn't be better with Smart either. While Jrue has been somewhat disappointing in the playoffs thus far, I don't think Smart would be very helpful with this group either.

[Moranis]

As many on here know, I've been critical of the extension because of Jrue's age and downward trajectory, but you make that trade every single time without giving it a second thought.  The team is simply better with Jrue and KP than it is with Smart, Brogdon, and Rob. 

[Kernewek]

Agree with both posts above. If you were expecting Holiday to take his game to another level in the playoffs I have to presume you’re having a Shaq moment: you were unfamiliar with his game.

Let’s presume that this season unfolds the same way, with us keeping Marcus and Rob but that they’re now both out - would you rather have Holiday? Of course you would.

[scaryjerry]

Straight up with no other moving pieces I would take a healthy smart over jrue. Sorry. Jrues been awful.

[Birdman]

I take Holiday over Smart & Brogdan any day..holiday role here is different is why his numbers aren’t eye popping

[Vermont Green]

I think it is OK to concede that more than one thing is true at the same time.  It is true that Jrue has not played as well as I expected.  He is really not that much better than Smart or Brogdon were last season.  Now I understand, both have been injured this season, we are better for having Jrue, that is true, but it is also true that he has not been as good as I had hoped and probably not as good as the team thought, when you consider what they gave up.

And as others have said, the debate should be Holiday + Porzingis vs. Smart + Brogdon.  There is no question that these were good moves, that the team is better for it.  But I thought we would see more out of Holiday, even considering his adjusted team role.

[G-Bones]

Straight up with no other moving pieces I would take a healthy smart over jrue. Sorry. Jrues been awful.

You can’t be serious.  Smart thought he was a star and shot way too much.  Jrue has been a little disappointing, but not “awful”.

[scaryjerry]

Straight up with no other moving pieces I would take a healthy smart over jrue. Sorry. Jrues been awful.

You can’t be serious.  Smart thought he was a star and shot way too much.  Jrue has been a little disappointing, but not “awful”.

At least someone played like they thought they were a star. I am serious. I’m taking prime healthy Marcus over this version of jrue…to each their own.

[Roy H.]

I think that some fans can't appreciate the difference between great defense and flashy defense.

Jrue is like Iguodala.  His impact generally isn't in the stat sheet.

[KeepBigAl]

Brad extending Jrue at 34M per baffled me.

He can still make good decisions (especially when compared to Smart last year) hit open shots and defend bigger players in the post.

He cannot stay in front of guards with any semblance of quickness, create his own shot well, and he's a less effective finisher now - these skills will likely continue to decline over the next 4 years.

There are some things Jrue does better, but in totality, PP is a better player RIGHT NOW.

[jpotter33]

I think that some fans can't appreciate the difference between great defense and flashy defense.

Jrue is like Iguodala.  His impact generally isn't in the stat sheet.

This is definitely true.

I think it’s also true that Jrue has had some very poor moments defensively. Some of that is how we’re using him in the “free safety” role, and so some gambles and getting burned are just part of the process. Then there’s other nights like last night where he was just bad. Seemed like he couldn’t keep anyone in front of him and had several miscommunications leading to points.

But overall his defense has been fine, and his offense is the worrisome part. He’s scoring a measly 8 points on 36% shooting and 32% from 3, including missing a ton at the basket. That’s unacceptable, especially with how well he shot the three during the year.

[SparzWizard]

I think that some fans can't appreciate the difference between great defense and flashy defense.

Jrue is like Iguodala.  His impact generally isn't in the stat sheet.

This is definitely true.

I think it’s also true that Jrue has had some very poor moments defensively. Some of that is how we’re using him in the “free safety” role, and so some gambles and getting burned are just part of the process. Then there’s other nights like last night where he was just bad. Seemed like he couldn’t keep anyone in front of him and had several miscommunications leading to points.

But overall his defense has been fine, and his offense is the worrisome part. He’s scoring a measly 8 points on 36% shooting and 32% from 3, including missing a ton at the basket. That’s unacceptable, especially with how well he shot the three during the year.

It's probably the shoulder injury that's still bothering him

[Donoghus]

I think that some fans can't appreciate the difference between great defense and flashy defense.

Jrue is like Iguodala.  His impact generally isn't in the stat sheet.

This is definitely true.

I think it’s also true that Jrue has had some very poor moments defensively. Some of that is how we’re using him in the “free safety” role, and so some gambles and getting burned are just part of the process. Then there’s other nights like last night where he was just bad. Seemed like he couldn’t keep anyone in front of him and had several miscommunications leading to points.

But overall his defense has been fine, and his offense is the worrisome part. He’s scoring a measly 8 points on 36% shooting and 32% from 3, including missing a ton at the basket. That’s unacceptable, especially with how well he shot the three during the year.

His rhythm just seem all off last night. He didn't look comfortable. Not sure what it was. 

[kraidstar]

Jrue has a .415/.330 career playoff shooting splits. He's been a little worse than usual this postseason. But he's not a natural scorer to begin with, and he clearly tightens up under pressureand always has.

[jambr380]

Btw, I didn't mean to indicate that I think Jrue sucks (I probably let my emotions get the best of me last night). I just think he's slightly overrated and slightly overpaid. And I think we overpaid to get him. He is still a very good player who can help us win a championship. And if that happens, then all that stuff won't matter at all.

I'll give Roy credit, though. He has loved Jrue ever since I can remember. And I definitely understand why when he is playing at his best.