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Re: Jaylen's impending Free Agency could resemble the OKC Harden dilemma
« Reply #135 on: September 09, 2019, 10:57:05 AM »

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When you draft a guy with the same position it could be to replace a leaving guy or something in the future.   So you're telling me that we drafted two guards because Horford left?
No it's called selecting the best player available. At that level of the draft you are taking the player your evaluators believe will be the overall best player once they mature. The last time Danny didn't do that at this position he drafted Olynyk and admitted he was drafting a needed big who would be just a role player.

Don’t remind me.

Re: Jaylen's impending Free Agency could resemble the OKC Harden dilemma
« Reply #136 on: September 10, 2019, 07:55:20 AM »

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When you draft a guy with the same position it could be to replace a leaving guy or something in the future.   So you're telling me that we drafted two guards because Horford left?
No it's called selecting the best player available. At that level of the draft you are taking the player your evaluators believe will be the overall best player once they mature. The last time Danny didn't do that at this position he drafted Olynyk and admitted he was drafting a needed big who would be just a role player.

What exactly was Romeo Langford the best at?   

Hopefully it was riding the bench without complaining because it's going to be years before he sees NBA minutes.   

Re: Jaylen's impending Free Agency could resemble the OKC Harden dilemma
« Reply #137 on: September 10, 2019, 08:05:24 AM »

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When you draft a guy with the same position it could be to replace a leaving guy or something in the future.   So you're telling me that we drafted two guards because Horford left?
No it's called selecting the best player available. At that level of the draft you are taking the player your evaluators believe will be the overall best player once they mature. The last time Danny didn't do that at this position he drafted Olynyk and admitted he was drafting a needed big who would be just a role player.

What exactly was Romeo Langford the best at?   



Im guessing his name will be one of the most difficult trivia " whos dat?" ever for diehard Celtics being quizzed on Boston history in 10 years.   LOL

Re: Jaylen's impending Free Agency could resemble the OKC Harden dilemma
« Reply #138 on: September 10, 2019, 09:03:42 AM »

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When you draft a guy with the same position it could be to replace a leaving guy or something in the future.   So you're telling me that we drafted two guards because Horford left?
No it's called selecting the best player available. At that level of the draft you are taking the player your evaluators believe will be the overall best player once they mature. The last time Danny didn't do that at this position he drafted Olynyk and admitted he was drafting a needed big who would be just a role player.

What exactly was Romeo Langford the best at?   

Hopefully it was riding the bench without complaining because it's going to be years before he sees NBA minutes.

Think they saw him as BPA at that point in the draft with more perceived upside than others available at the time.  So they took a flyer on him.

I have my doubts about the kid but I can certainly see the team's angle here.


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Re: Jaylen's impending Free Agency could resemble the OKC Harden dilemma
« Reply #139 on: September 10, 2019, 10:26:26 AM »

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Celts cant afford to pay him max. But he is worth Max around the league

Danny likely waits until end of season to figure it out.


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« Reply #140 on: September 10, 2019, 11:40:31 AM »

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Celts cant afford to pay him max. But he is worth Max around the league

Danny likely waits until end of season to figure it out.

Hope so for his sake, but just don't see the market for him at that price.  He doesn't bring enough offensive value to warrant max contract.

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« Reply #141 on: September 10, 2019, 11:43:47 AM »

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Celts cant afford to pay him max. But he is worth Max around the league

Danny likely waits until end of season to figure it out.

Of course the C's can pay him the max. It will likely involve moves with Hayward and/or Smart, but they aren't letting him go unless they get a great deal.

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« Reply #142 on: September 10, 2019, 02:23:48 PM »

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Danny can't wait until the end of the season.

Once the season ends, it's either the Celts match the offer another team gives Brown or the Celts lose Brown and get nothing in return.

Celts will have no leverage in that scenario.

There are teams out there desperate enough to give Brown 30m per year.

So Ainge must figure it out on or before the trade deadline.

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« Reply #143 on: September 10, 2019, 02:31:11 PM »

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Celts cant afford to pay him max. But he is worth Max around the league

Danny likely waits until end of season to figure it out.

Of course the C's can pay him the max. It will likely involve moves with Hayward and/or Smart, but they aren't letting him go unless they get a great deal.

They can absolutely keep him if they want to pay the tax...Just that simple.

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« Reply #144 on: September 10, 2019, 02:55:13 PM »

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Celts cant afford to pay him max. But he is worth Max around the league

Danny likely waits until end of season to figure it out.

Of course the C's can pay him the max. It will likely involve moves with Hayward and/or Smart, but they aren't letting him go unless they get a great deal.

They can absolutely keep him if they want to pay the tax...Just that simple.

You can pay the tax if your team has KG, Pierce, and Ray Allen.

Paying luxury tax when the team is not even on par with the elite teams in the NBA is not being smart.

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« Reply #145 on: September 10, 2019, 04:35:09 PM »

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Celts cant afford to pay him max. But he is worth Max around the league

Danny likely waits until end of season to figure it out.

Of course the C's can pay him the max. It will likely involve moves with Hayward and/or Smart, but they aren't letting him go unless they get a great deal.

They can absolutely keep him if they want to pay the tax...Just that simple.

They probably could avoid the tax next year with Jaylen at the max and Hayward picking up his option.  Depends a little on what draft picks we get and might require a deadline salary dump of Poirier or Kanter (if Kanter picks up his option and returns), but it wouldn’t take any major hoops to jump through.  If we don’t get the Memphis pick and Kanter opts out, we should be able to keep Jaylen and sign a free agent to an above-minimum deal while staying below the tax.

The following year becomes trickier if they want to retain Hayward and have extended Tatum, but that’s a relatively distant problem.

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« Reply #146 on: September 10, 2019, 05:25:16 PM »

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I think if he leaves he goes to SA because Pop likes him.

Re: Jaylen's impending Free Agency could resemble the OKC Harden dilemma
« Reply #147 on: September 10, 2019, 05:53:51 PM »

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I think if he leaves he goes to SA because Pop likes him.

That says a lot about Jaylen, but there's a lot of smoke that Pop is done coaching after the Olympics next summer.

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« Reply #148 on: September 10, 2019, 07:07:18 PM »

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I think if he leaves he goes to SA because Pop likes him.

Agree with this take and your previous one about Romeo Langford drafted as the heir apparent.

Would a trade with SA make sense? I really like Dejounte Murray although I don't know if we would have a spot for him with Smart on the roster.

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« Reply #149 on: September 10, 2019, 07:35:03 PM »

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Danny can't wait until the end of the season.

Once the season ends, it's either the Celts match the offer another team gives Brown or the Celts lose Brown and get nothing in return.

Celts will have no leverage in that scenario.

There are teams out there desperate enough to give Brown 30m per year.

So Ainge must figure it out on or before the trade deadline.
Sorry, but which teams are giving Brown that much???