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Who was better, Paul Pierce or Scottie Pippen?

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Pippen
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Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2018, 10:56:44 PM »

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Pierce, and it really isnt that close

Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2018, 11:00:26 PM »

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Pierce, and it really isnt that close
Would really like to hear how Pierce is considerably better than Pippen
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« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2018, 11:04:16 PM »

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Pierce, and it really isnt that close
Would really like to hear how Pierce is considerably better than Pippen


How old are you? Serious question. I'm old enough to have watched both of these guys play. Pippen was a better defensive player than Pierce. Pierce was a better offensive player than Pippen. Pierce was a very good all around player. Pippen was too. I believe Pierce was better. I watched both guys play in prime years. The numbers show Pierce was a much better offensive player, and Pierce played with scrubs most of his career.

Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2018, 11:14:22 PM »

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Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2018, 11:28:56 PM »

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It’s harder to tell than it should be due to all the variables, but it’s Pippen.
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PF: Larry Nance Sr 91-92 / Blake Griffin 13-14
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Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2018, 11:39:46 PM »

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Equal votes... This is why fans of other teams don’t take us seriously. I love Pierce, but it’s Pippen by a landslide.
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Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2018, 11:43:32 PM »

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Pierce was probably a top 10 player of his era. Can we say the same about Pippen? I don't think I can.

All-NBA voters disagreed.

Yeah he was. When I watch a lot of random Bulls games from 90-93 or 96-98, frequently Pippin looks underrated to me and Jordan looks underrated vs his Paul Bunyan status (not vs. other players).
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PF: Larry Nance Sr 91-92 / Blake Griffin 13-14
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Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2018, 11:44:09 PM »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYcjCoy7R4I

Give me Pierce please. Especially in the last two seconds of a tied game.

Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2018, 11:48:56 PM »

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Equal votes... This is why fans of other teams don’t take us seriously. I love Pierce, but it’s Pippen by a landslide.




Pierce made it to the NBA finals twice, once being the best player on the team and the next being arguably the best player on the team. He also made it to the eastern conference finals as the best player on the team. Do people think if Pippen played for some other team in the league and wasn't drafted into the perfect situation he would have had success as any type of winner at all? Purely hypothetical, but I'm just curious as to what people think. Pierce was a bonafide go-to scorer with good efficiency as well as being a good all-around-player. Pippen was a great defensive player, with a good all-around game, and was a solid offensive player/scorer. How many great defensive players who are solid offensively have every carried a team to the finals being the supposed "best player" on a team. Pierce achieved these marks being the best guy on the team.

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« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2018, 11:50:04 PM »

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https://www.sbnation.com/2015/9/9/9290999/nba-90s-scottie-pippen-michael-jordan

https://www.blogabull.com/2015/9/24/9358331/scottie-pippen-stats-analytics-chicago-bulls

I’m curious, can anybody come up with even one non-Celtic media / NBA site that ranks Pierce over Pippen?
Maybe we could find some Croatian ones.

Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2018, 11:52:30 PM »

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Pierce was probably a top 10 player of his era. Can we say the same about Pippen? I don't think I can.

All-NBA voters disagreed.


Allen Iverson had 7 ALL-NBA selections. I'd love for you to mathematically prove to me Iverson was a better offensive player than Pierce.

Iverson did more with less.


That's very subjective. In 10 seasons with Philadelphia, Iverson could only manage 5 seasons with records above .500%. Statistics show he was horribly inefficient and not a winner.

Who do you think the 2nd best player was on AI’s team that made the finals? Pick a guy, then make a case for that guy being better than Antoine that includes comparing all star appearances, keeping in mind Pierce never made a finals without 2-3 HOFers.
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PF: Larry Nance Sr 91-92 / Blake Griffin 13-14
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Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2018, 11:55:29 PM »

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I could make an easy argument that from 96-96 to 97-98 Pippen is the third best player on the Bulls.

Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2018, 11:56:33 PM »

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I could make an easy argument that from 96-96 to 97-98 Pippen is the third best player on the Bulls.
Then make it
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2018, 11:59:53 PM »

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Pierce was probably a top 10 player of his era. Can we say the same about Pippen? I don't think I can.

All-NBA voters disagreed.


Allen Iverson had 7 ALL-NBA selections. I'd love for you to mathematically prove to me Iverson was a better offensive player than Pierce.

Iverson did more with less.


That's very subjective. In 10 seasons with Philadelphia, Iverson could only manage 5 seasons with records above .500%. Statistics show he was horribly inefficient and not a winner.

Who do you think the 2nd best player was on AI’s team that made the finals? Pick a guy, then make a case for that guy being better than Antoine that includes comparing all star appearances, keeping in mind Pierce never made a finals without 2-3 HOFers.


Dikembe Mutombo who is a HOF and one of the greatest defensive players of all time.

Re: Pierce or Pippen
« Reply #59 on: June 15, 2018, 12:04:33 AM »

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Pierce was probably a top 10 player of his era. Can we say the same about Pippen? I don't think I can.

All-NBA voters disagreed.


Allen Iverson had 7 ALL-NBA selections. I'd love for you to mathematically prove to me Iverson was a better offensive player than Pierce.

Iverson did more with less.


That's very subjective. In 10 seasons with Philadelphia, Iverson could only manage 5 seasons with records above .500%. Statistics show he was horribly inefficient and not a winner.

Who do you think the 2nd best player was on AI’s team that made the finals? Pick a guy, then make a case for that guy being better than Antoine that includes comparing all star appearances, keeping in mind Pierce never made a finals without 2-3 HOFers.


Dikembe Mutombo who is a HOF and one of the greatest defensive players of all time.
.... and was also 35, and not at all the player he was at Denver nor Atlanta
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)