Joel Embiid now "the process"

[tazzmaniac]

Embiid the best player already? Haha I know that the Philly love is sarcasm-trolling, but come on...

When did people fall in love with losing? I used to hate losing games as a kid, and still hate to lose playing golf with my out of shape buddies.

If I were a Philly fan, there's no way I'd be ok with such a long run of a non-professional product. Wins excite me waaaay more than potential. There are plenty of teams with talent that still stink.

losing is the new winning!

But as far as embiid goes, he definitely looks like he could be a great player if healthy. Time will tell (as with everything)

Losing sucks. Everyone hates losing. Fans hate losing, players hate losing, ownership groups hate losing.

Really thats what is so brave(?) about HInkie's plan. He came in and intentionally sucked knowing he would p--- off the entire basketball world. He also surely knew that it was entirely possible that he would be fired before Philly truly became contenders.

Hinkie had the patience and strength to stand in there and take his licks because he knew that ultimately losing would result in more winning down the line.

I hate what Hinkie did. It was a disgrace to basketball and bad for the NBA, but it was always clear, that if executed correctly, that disgrace could result in more wins down the line.

Hinkie was able to look at fans like yourself and say basically, "I know better than you"

Its commendable in that regard.

However, I hope it fails fantastically. I hope Embiid has no career with Philly. I hope Noel walks I hope they are forced to trade Okafor and start over with the entire coaching staff and front office turned over from the HInkie era.

Simmons, Okafor, Embiid, Noel... I'd say it has already worked.

Okafor is gonna be a bench player long term.

That's silly.  He's far too talented offensively for that to be the case.  I get that you're overreacting to his first two games this season.  He hadn't played basketball since February.  He's got a 12 minute restriction.   It's foolish to judge him based on two obviously rusty minute-restricted games.  We saw what he could do last season.  He has several things he needs to work on, but he's clearly a force offensively.  Look at his last 23 game last season prior to his injury.  He averaged 17.8 points with 60% shooting in 27.7mpg.  This while having basically no teammates and commanding double teams.  His floor remains Al Jefferson.  He's still only 20 years old.  I dunno if he'll fit with Embiid or if they'll eventually trade him, but to assume a First-Team All Rookie who shows obvious signs of potential stardom is a "long term bench player" is just kinda silly.  You've bought into the exaggerated anti-Okafor hype.

Like I said LB, this isn't just me that is saying thIS. This is what a large number of fans say on Liberty Ballers. Just yesterday there was a post there I was reading where the Philly fans were saying he had to significantly improve his rebounding to be comparable to a 20 year old Al Jefferson. It isn't some huge indictment to suggest he would be a good scoring big off the bench.
Enes Kanter isn't a bad player and he helped OKC in the playoffs last year. He scores 12 points and gets 6 rebounds in just 19 minutes a game this year. If you do your famous per 36 averages he is a 20-10 guy. He was also a number 3 pick and in the one year he got 30 minutes like Okafor did (immediately after arriving in OKC) he got really great averages of 18.7 and 11 rebounds (better numbers than Okafor last year). However, like Okafor he really struggles on defense which impacts the lineups he can play with and his overall minutes.

It is not like these decisions were made on Kanter when he was 28 and had been given 9 years to figure it out on defense. He is 24 now and has been a bench player the last years. Is it really that outlandish to think that a similar decision could be made on Okafor? I think the most likely situation is that he stays in Philly and plays a few minutes on the floor with Embiid but mostly provides offense off the bench. Is that glamorous? No... but it's not like I am saying some extremely anti-Okafor thing in believing this point.

I get he is your Binkie and all, but let's not pretend I am the only person that sees this path for him. Neither outlook for his career is "silly."

There's a vigorous pro-Noel versus pro-Okafor debate amongst the Liberty Ballers so hearing negative Okafor comments isn't surprising.  I agree that Okafor needs to improve in a number of areas but this is only his 2nd season so I don't see why he should be written off as an offensive big off the bench a this point.  Long term, I'd expect them to move Okafor because I think a Simmons/Okafor/Embiid lineup would have issues offensively and defensively.  Better to pick up an athletic 3 and D SF.   

[celticsclay]

Embiid the best player already? Haha I know that the Philly love is sarcasm-trolling, but come on...

When did people fall in love with losing? I used to hate losing games as a kid, and still hate to lose playing golf with my out of shape buddies.

If I were a Philly fan, there's no way I'd be ok with such a long run of a non-professional product. Wins excite me waaaay more than potential. There are plenty of teams with talent that still stink.

losing is the new winning!

But as far as embiid goes, he definitely looks like he could be a great player if healthy. Time will tell (as with everything)

Losing sucks. Everyone hates losing. Fans hate losing, players hate losing, ownership groups hate losing.

Really thats what is so brave(?) about HInkie's plan. He came in and intentionally sucked knowing he would p--- off the entire basketball world. He also surely knew that it was entirely possible that he would be fired before Philly truly became contenders.

Hinkie had the patience and strength to stand in there and take his licks because he knew that ultimately losing would result in more winning down the line.

I hate what Hinkie did. It was a disgrace to basketball and bad for the NBA, but it was always clear, that if executed correctly, that disgrace could result in more wins down the line.

Hinkie was able to look at fans like yourself and say basically, "I know better than you"

Its commendable in that regard.

However, I hope it fails fantastically. I hope Embiid has no career with Philly. I hope Noel walks I hope they are forced to trade Okafor and start over with the entire coaching staff and front office turned over from the HInkie era.

Simmons, Okafor, Embiid, Noel... I'd say it has already worked.

Okafor is gonna be a bench player long term.

That's silly.  He's far too talented offensively for that to be the case.  I get that you're overreacting to his first two games this season.  He hadn't played basketball since February.  He's got a 12 minute restriction.   It's foolish to judge him based on two obviously rusty minute-restricted games.  We saw what he could do last season.  He has several things he needs to work on, but he's clearly a force offensively.  Look at his last 23 game last season prior to his injury.  He averaged 17.8 points with 60% shooting in 27.7mpg.  This while having basically no teammates and commanding double teams.  His floor remains Al Jefferson.  He's still only 20 years old.  I dunno if he'll fit with Embiid or if they'll eventually trade him, but to assume a First-Team All Rookie who shows obvious signs of potential stardom is a "long term bench player" is just kinda silly.  You've bought into the exaggerated anti-Okafor hype.

Like I said LB, this isn't just me that is saying thIS. This is what a large number of fans say on Liberty Ballers. Just yesterday there was a post there I was reading where the Philly fans were saying he had to significantly improve his rebounding to be comparable to a 20 year old Al Jefferson. It isn't some huge indictment to suggest he would be a good scoring big off the bench.
Enes Kanter isn't a bad player and he helped OKC in the playoffs last year. He scores 12 points and gets 6 rebounds in just 19 minutes a game this year. If you do your famous per 36 averages he is a 20-10 guy. He was also a number 3 pick and in the one year he got 30 minutes like Okafor did (immediately after arriving in OKC) he got really great averages of 18.7 and 11 rebounds (better numbers than Okafor last year). However, like Okafor he really struggles on defense which impacts the lineups he can play with and his overall minutes.

It is not like these decisions were made on Kanter when he was 28 and had been given 9 years to figure it out on defense. He is 24 now and has been a bench player the last years. Is it really that outlandish to think that a similar decision could be made on Okafor? I think the most likely situation is that he stays in Philly and plays a few minutes on the floor with Embiid but mostly provides offense off the bench. Is that glamorous? No... but it's not like I am saying some extremely anti-Okafor thing in believing this point.

I get he is your Binkie and all, but let's not pretend I am the only person that sees this path for him. Neither outlook for his career is "silly."

There's a vigorous pro-Noel versus pro-Okafor debate amongst the Liberty Ballers so hearing negative Okafor comments isn't surprising.  I agree that Okafor needs to improve in a number of areas but this is only his 2nd season so I don't see why he should be written off as an offensive big off the bench a this point.  Long term, I'd expect them to move Okafor because I think a Simmons/Okafor/Embiid lineup would have issues offensively and defensively.  Better to pick up an athletic 3 and D SF.   

What is writing him off exactly? How is him having a career path similar to Kanter's some huge disappointment for him? They are both really good scorers with Okafor maybe having more talent at scoring and Kanter being a better rebounder.

[LarBrd33]

Embiid the best player already? Haha I know that the Philly love is sarcasm-trolling, but come on...

When did people fall in love with losing? I used to hate losing games as a kid, and still hate to lose playing golf with my out of shape buddies.

If I were a Philly fan, there's no way I'd be ok with such a long run of a non-professional product. Wins excite me waaaay more than potential. There are plenty of teams with talent that still stink.

losing is the new winning!

But as far as embiid goes, he definitely looks like he could be a great player if healthy. Time will tell (as with everything)

Losing sucks. Everyone hates losing. Fans hate losing, players hate losing, ownership groups hate losing.

Really thats what is so brave(?) about HInkie's plan. He came in and intentionally sucked knowing he would p--- off the entire basketball world. He also surely knew that it was entirely possible that he would be fired before Philly truly became contenders.

Hinkie had the patience and strength to stand in there and take his licks because he knew that ultimately losing would result in more winning down the line.

I hate what Hinkie did. It was a disgrace to basketball and bad for the NBA, but it was always clear, that if executed correctly, that disgrace could result in more wins down the line.

Hinkie was able to look at fans like yourself and say basically, "I know better than you"

Its commendable in that regard.

However, I hope it fails fantastically. I hope Embiid has no career with Philly. I hope Noel walks I hope they are forced to trade Okafor and start over with the entire coaching staff and front office turned over from the HInkie era.

Simmons, Okafor, Embiid, Noel... I'd say it has already worked.

Okafor is gonna be a bench player long term.

That's silly.  He's far too talented offensively for that to be the case.  I get that you're overreacting to his first two games this season.  He hadn't played basketball since February.  He's got a 12 minute restriction.   It's foolish to judge him based on two obviously rusty minute-restricted games.  We saw what he could do last season.  He has several things he needs to work on, but he's clearly a force offensively.  Look at his last 23 game last season prior to his injury.  He averaged 17.8 points with 60% shooting in 27.7mpg.  This while having basically no teammates and commanding double teams.  His floor remains Al Jefferson.  He's still only 20 years old.  I dunno if he'll fit with Embiid or if they'll eventually trade him, but to assume a First-Team All Rookie who shows obvious signs of potential stardom is a "long term bench player" is just kinda silly.  You've bought into the exaggerated anti-Okafor hype.

Like I said LB, this isn't just me that is saying thIS. This is what a large number of fans say on Liberty Ballers. Just yesterday there was a post there I was reading where the Philly fans were saying he had to significantly improve his rebounding to be comparable to a 20 year old Al Jefferson. It isn't some huge indictment to suggest he would be a good scoring big off the bench.
Enes Kanter isn't a bad player and he helped OKC in the playoffs last year. He scores 12 points and gets 6 rebounds in just 19 minutes a game this year. If you do your famous per 36 averages he is a 20-10 guy. He was also a number 3 pick and in the one year he got 30 minutes like Okafor did (immediately after arriving in OKC) he got really great averages of 18.7 and 11 rebounds (better numbers than Okafor last year). However, like Okafor he really struggles on defense which impacts the lineups he can play with and his overall minutes.

It is not like these decisions were made on Kanter when he was 28 and had been given 9 years to figure it out on defense. He is 24 now and has been a bench player the last years. Is it really that outlandish to think that a similar decision could be made on Okafor? I think the most likely situation is that he stays in Philly and plays a few minutes on the floor with Embiid but mostly provides offense off the bench. Is that glamorous? No... but it's not like I am saying some extremely anti-Okafor thing in believing this point.

I get he is your Binkie and all, but let's not pretend I am the only person that sees this path for him. Neither outlook for his career is "silly."

There's a vigorous pro-Noel versus pro-Okafor debate amongst the Liberty Ballers so hearing negative Okafor comments isn't surprising.  I agree that Okafor needs to improve in a number of areas but this is only his 2nd season so I don't see why he should be written off as an offensive big off the bench a this point.  Long term, I'd expect them to move Okafor because I think a Simmons/Okafor/Embiid lineup would have issues offensively and defensively.  Better to pick up an athletic 3 and D SF.   

What is writing him off exactly? How is him having a career path similar to Kanter's some huge disappointment for him? They are both really good scorers with Okafor maybe having more talent at scoring and Kanter being a better rebounder.

The Kanter comp is lazy.  Kanter averaged 4 points as a rookie.   Okafor averaged nearly 18 with 60% shooting over his last 30 games.

It took until 2013, during Kanter's 3rd season, that he started averaging like 12 points.  That's coincidentally when a 17 year old Okafor dominated Kanter in a matchup:

Okafor believes he could hang with the pros now, as a 17-year-old, based on a performance he produced last offseason.

“I would like to think that,” Okafor said when asked if he could play in the NBA right now. “I’ve actually had the [opportunity] to play against a professional basketball player. I played against [Utah Jazz center] Enes Kanter. He came to my school over the summer and I actually dominated him. Then, I found out that he had been the number three draft pick. I spoke with his trainer and he was like, ‘You dominated my kid,’ and he was telling me how he thinks I’m going to be special and stuff like that.”

[celticsclay]

Embiid the best player already? Haha I know that the Philly love is sarcasm-trolling, but come on...

When did people fall in love with losing? I used to hate losing games as a kid, and still hate to lose playing golf with my out of shape buddies.

If I were a Philly fan, there's no way I'd be ok with such a long run of a non-professional product. Wins excite me waaaay more than potential. There are plenty of teams with talent that still stink.

losing is the new winning!

But as far as embiid goes, he definitely looks like he could be a great player if healthy. Time will tell (as with everything)

Losing sucks. Everyone hates losing. Fans hate losing, players hate losing, ownership groups hate losing.

Really thats what is so brave(?) about HInkie's plan. He came in and intentionally sucked knowing he would p--- off the entire basketball world. He also surely knew that it was entirely possible that he would be fired before Philly truly became contenders.

Hinkie had the patience and strength to stand in there and take his licks because he knew that ultimately losing would result in more winning down the line.

I hate what Hinkie did. It was a disgrace to basketball and bad for the NBA, but it was always clear, that if executed correctly, that disgrace could result in more wins down the line.

Hinkie was able to look at fans like yourself and say basically, "I know better than you"

Its commendable in that regard.

However, I hope it fails fantastically. I hope Embiid has no career with Philly. I hope Noel walks I hope they are forced to trade Okafor and start over with the entire coaching staff and front office turned over from the HInkie era.

Simmons, Okafor, Embiid, Noel... I'd say it has already worked.

Okafor is gonna be a bench player long term.

That's silly.  He's far too talented offensively for that to be the case.  I get that you're overreacting to his first two games this season.  He hadn't played basketball since February.  He's got a 12 minute restriction.   It's foolish to judge him based on two obviously rusty minute-restricted games.  We saw what he could do last season.  He has several things he needs to work on, but he's clearly a force offensively.  Look at his last 23 game last season prior to his injury.  He averaged 17.8 points with 60% shooting in 27.7mpg.  This while having basically no teammates and commanding double teams.  His floor remains Al Jefferson.  He's still only 20 years old.  I dunno if he'll fit with Embiid or if they'll eventually trade him, but to assume a First-Team All Rookie who shows obvious signs of potential stardom is a "long term bench player" is just kinda silly.  You've bought into the exaggerated anti-Okafor hype.

Like I said LB, this isn't just me that is saying thIS. This is what a large number of fans say on Liberty Ballers. Just yesterday there was a post there I was reading where the Philly fans were saying he had to significantly improve his rebounding to be comparable to a 20 year old Al Jefferson. It isn't some huge indictment to suggest he would be a good scoring big off the bench.
Enes Kanter isn't a bad player and he helped OKC in the playoffs last year. He scores 12 points and gets 6 rebounds in just 19 minutes a game this year. If you do your famous per 36 averages he is a 20-10 guy. He was also a number 3 pick and in the one year he got 30 minutes like Okafor did (immediately after arriving in OKC) he got really great averages of 18.7 and 11 rebounds (better numbers than Okafor last year). However, like Okafor he really struggles on defense which impacts the lineups he can play with and his overall minutes.

It is not like these decisions were made on Kanter when he was 28 and had been given 9 years to figure it out on defense. He is 24 now and has been a bench player the last years. Is it really that outlandish to think that a similar decision could be made on Okafor? I think the most likely situation is that he stays in Philly and plays a few minutes on the floor with Embiid but mostly provides offense off the bench. Is that glamorous? No... but it's not like I am saying some extremely anti-Okafor thing in believing this point.

I get he is your Binkie and all, but let's not pretend I am the only person that sees this path for him. Neither outlook for his career is "silly."

There's a vigorous pro-Noel versus pro-Okafor debate amongst the Liberty Ballers so hearing negative Okafor comments isn't surprising.  I agree that Okafor needs to improve in a number of areas but this is only his 2nd season so I don't see why he should be written off as an offensive big off the bench a this point.  Long term, I'd expect them to move Okafor because I think a Simmons/Okafor/Embiid lineup would have issues offensively and defensively.  Better to pick up an athletic 3 and D SF.   

What is writing him off exactly? How is him having a career path similar to Kanter's some huge disappointment for him? They are both really good scorers with Okafor maybe having more talent at scoring and Kanter being a better rebounder.

The Kanter comp is lazy.  Kanter averaged 4 points as a rookie.   Okafor averaged nearly 18 with 60% shooting over his last 30 games.

It took until 2013, during Kanter's 3rd season, that he started averaging like 12 points.  That's coincidentally when a 17 year old Okafor dominated Kanter in a matchup:

Okafor believes he could hang with the pros now, as a 17-year-old, based on a performance he produced last offseason.

“I would like to think that,” Okafor said when asked if he could play in the NBA right now. “I’ve actually had the [opportunity] to play against a professional basketball player. I played against [Utah Jazz center] Enes Kanter. He came to my school over the summer and I actually dominated him. Then, I found out that he had been the number three draft pick. I spoke with his trainer and he was like, ‘You dominated my kid,’ and he was telling me how he thinks I’m going to be special and stuff like that.”

You can do better than this buddy. Kanter was 18 years old and played 13 minutes a game to get his 4.7 points and 4.6 rebounds per game in those minutes. You put those out your favorite per 36 stat and guess what they are? 13 points and 12+ rebounds. Holy crap that is amazing for an 18 year old! Why don't we compare them when they were both 20 (oh the season you casually mentioned as when he figured it out) That is right! That was Okafor who turned 20 years old a month into last season. Wait we can compare them at the same age and not distort stats? Oh of course, how fun!

Okafor averaged 17.5 point and 7 rebounds on 30 minutes a game for a season he was 20 years old for 90% of

Kanter averaged 13.8 points and 8.4 rebounds per 30 minutes for a season he was 20 years old for 90% of. Their per 36% numbers are very similar Okafor scored a few points more and Kanter got some more rebounds. They also shot a nearly identical %  on crappy teams with mediocre defense.

Why does this comparison bother you so much? Even the 76ers fans regularly make it themselves over on liberty ballers.

[LarBrd33]

Two costly turnovers late for Embiid as the 76ers tried to dump it into their rookie for late game hero-ball.  A learning experience for "The Process".

Still... he looked dominant on both ends.  18 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists, and 4 blocks in with 50% shooting in 25 minutes...   kid continues to look like a future megastar much to the chagrin of the many folks here who wrote him off as a bust before ever seeing him play. 

That minute restriction keeps creeping up.  Surprised to see him already up to 25 minutes in his 3rd game.

[MBunge]

DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Lets's see where 22 year old rookie Embiid is at the all star break.

Mike

[tazzmaniac]

Two costly turnovers late for Embiid as the 76ers tried to dump it into their rookie for late game hero-ball.  A learning experience for "The Process".

Still... he looked dominant on both ends.  18 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists, and 4 blocks in with 50% shooting in 25 minutes...   kid continues to look like a future megastar much to the chagrin of the many folks here who wrote him off as a bust before ever seeing him play. 

That minute restriction keeps creeping up.  Surprised to see him already up to 25 minutes in his 3rd game.

The 1st turnover was on a strong post move.  On the last play rather than trying to post Embiid again or trying to run a pick and roll/pick and pop, Brown drew up a play that had Embiid going one-on-one near the 3 point line.  Really stupid play call by Brown.  He also botched the Embiid/Holmes substitution pattern in the late 3rd and 4th by alternating them every two minutes multiple times. 

Embiid did look really good but still has a lot of room for improvement.  They finally ran a few good pick and rolls with him.  They showed stats from their 1st two games showing Embiid's defensive impact.  With Embiid on court, the opponents averaged 91 pts per 100 possessions and 41 FG%.  With Embiid off court, the opponents averaged 108 pts per 100 possessions and 49 FG%. 

[tazzmaniac]

DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Lets's see where 22 year old rookie Embiid is at the all star break.

Mike

From a performance standpoint, I don't see where their age as a rookie matters much considering Embiid's lack of experience.  I agree its early in the season but Embiid is just going to improve his play as he gets more experience as long as he stays healthy.  Its mostly just a matter of seeing how durable he is.  Embiid certainly has Cousins beat on temperament.

[LarBrd33]

DeMarcus Cousins per 36 numbers as a 20 year old rookie.

17.8 pts
10.9 rebs
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.1 blks
4.2 turnovers

Lets's see where 22 year old rookie Embiid is at the all star break.

Mike

From a performance standpoint, I don't see where their age as a rookie matters much considering Embiid's lack of experience.  I agree its early in the season but Embiid is just going to improve his play as he gets more experience as long as he stays healthy.  Its mostly just a matter of seeing how durable he is.  Embiid certainly has Cousins beat on temperament.

yep... Embiid had only been playing basketball for like 4 years prior to his injury.  I bet Embiid is better now than cousins as a 15 year old.

[green_bballers13]

Embiid hasn't gone through years of losing. We can judge his temperament when the chips are stacked against him...

[LarBrd33]

Embiid hasn't gone through years of losing. We can judge his temperament when the chips are stacked against him...

Yeah.  DeMarcus Cousins has failed to make the playoffs in 6 straight years of NBA basketball.   Let's see how Embiid does in his first 6 years. 

Also, Embiid currently has the same amount of wins as Anthony Davis while averaging half the minutes... pretty incredible for the young future superstar.  I can tell why some folks who called the Philly plan a "failure" are freakin.  Looks like, barring injury, it worked.

[tazzmaniac]

Embiid hasn't gone through years of losing. We can judge his temperament when the chips are stacked against him...

Cousins had temperament issues coming out of Kentucky so its not about years of losing although that certainly doesn't help. 

[alldaboston]

Embiid hasn't gone through years of losing. We can judge his temperament when the chips are stacked against him...

Yeah.  DeMarcus Cousins has failed to make the playoffs in 6 straight years of NBA basketball.   Let's see how Embiid does in his first 6 years. 

Also, Embiid currently has the same amount of wins as Anthony Davis while averaging half the minutes... pretty incredible for the young future superstar.  I can tell why some folks who called the Philly plan a "failure" are freakin.  Looks like, barring injury, it worked.

ok buddy, we get it. you're proud of "the process (i'm referring to the actual Process here, not the player, although i do know you're proud of him too)....

but can you stop beating your drum about it? lol. we get it haha! this thread, whether by your doing or not, has become another Hinkie thread. can we just end it? or get back to the original topic, which is Embiid's nickname?

[celticsclay]

Embiid hasn't gone through years of losing. We can judge his temperament when the chips are stacked against him...

Yeah.  DeMarcus Cousins has failed to make the playoffs in 6 straight years of NBA basketball.   Let's see how Embiid does in his first 6 years. 

Also, Embiid currently has the same amount of wins as Anthony Davis while averaging half the minutes... pretty incredible for the young future superstar.  I can tell why some folks who called the Philly plan a "failure" are freakin.  Looks like, barring injury, it worked.

ok buddy, we get it. you're proud of "the process (i'm referring to the actual Process here, not the player, although i do know you're proud of him too)....

but can you stop beating your drum about it? lol. we get it haha! this thread, whether by your doing or not, has become another Hinkie thread. can we just end it? or get back to the original topic, which is Embiid's nickname?

To be honest, my understanding of the rules is that "told you so" threads and repeatedly bumping one's own threads to try and get a response is not really within forum rules (and kind of just invites disagreements and anger between posters). I am honestly probably every bit as intrigued by embiid as lb and have been checking his box scores every game. However I do think bumping this thread every game and concluding posts with "the haters must be freaking out" isn't really necessary. I'm not really sure who the haters are exactly. I think everyone is rooting for the guy and believed he would be good if he ever stayed healthy.

[LarBrd33]

Embiid hasn't gone through years of losing. We can judge his temperament when the chips are stacked against him...

Yeah.  DeMarcus Cousins has failed to make the playoffs in 6 straight years of NBA basketball.   Let's see how Embiid does in his first 6 years. 

Also, Embiid currently has the same amount of wins as Anthony Davis while averaging half the minutes... pretty incredible for the young future superstar.  I can tell why some folks who called the Philly plan a "failure" are freakin.  Looks like, barring injury, it worked.

ok buddy, we get it. you're proud of "the process (i'm referring to the actual Process here, not the player, although i do know you're proud of him too)....

but can you stop beating your drum about it? lol. we get it haha! this thread, whether by your doing or not, has become another Hinkie thread. can we just end it? or get back to the original topic, which is Embiid's nickname?

To be honest, my understanding of the rules is that "told you so" threads and repeatedly bumping one's own threads to try and get a response is not really within forum rules (and kind of just invites disagreements and anger between posters). I am honestly probably every bit as intrigued by embiid as lb and have been checking his box scores every game. However I do think bumping this thread every game and concluding posts with "the haters must be freaking out" isn't really necessary. I'm not really sure who the haters are exactly. I think everyone is rooting for the guy and believed he would be good if he ever stayed healthy.

this isn't my thread.  But I agree that a lot of people are likely salty for being wrong about The Process.

It's fun watching Embiid day to day.  I felt this way watching a young Anthony Davis and a young Karl towns as well.  Anytime a new superstar shows up in the league it's exciting.  Its a bummer our tanking didn't result in a top 3 pick in 2014 and Marcus smart has been such a disappointment so far.