Sixers-Hornets trade

[Lucky17]

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69233/20100923/sixers_acquire_songaila_brackins_from_hornets_for_green_smith/

Interesting.

Hornets get Willie Green and Jason Smith in exchange for Darius Songaila and Craig Brackins (whom they acquired on draft night from OKC).

Green is very meh. Smith seemed to show promise before he blew out his knee season before last. Songaila is a trooper, a good backup big for a playoff team.

Seems like NO continues to trade talent for payroll relief.

Edit: I just looked at the salary numbers, and NO is taking back more than it gives out (for this year, anyways). So I really don't see the motivation for the deal. Green is redundant with Belinelli and Thornton on the roster, and Smith is a 3rd stringer, at best.  

[Who]

Pointless trade ... and a waste of a draft pick (Brackins).

The Hornets have done a very poor job this off-season. They screwed up their lottery pick and their top trade asset (D.Collison) and failed to address the David West + Emeka Okafor situation.

Increasingly likely that Chris Paul leaves the Hornets in the near future. Probably next summer. And the Hornets only have themselves to blame for that. 

[Lucky17]

Pointless trade ... and a waste of a draft pick (Brackins).

The Hornets have done a very poor job this off-season. They screwed up their lottery pick and their top trade asset (D.Collison) and failed to address the David West + Emeka Okafor situation.

Increasingly likely that Chris Paul leaves the Hornets in the near future. Probably next summer. And the Hornets only have themselves to blame for that. 

I know. If they don't use Peja's massive expiring contract to get some talent around CP3, he's got to walk.

[nickagneta]

This one ha to be a head-scratcher from the perspective of Hornets fans. The Hornets gave up the best player of the 4(Songalia, just my opinion) and the player with the most potential(Brackins) and took on more salary to do so.

Strange!!!

[Lucky17]

This one ha to be a head-scratcher from the perspective of Hornets fans. The Hornets gave up the best player of the 4(Songalia, just my opinion) and the player with the most potential(Brackins) and took on more salary to do so.

Strange!!!

Not as strange as trading the 11th pick (Aldrich) and Mo Peterson to OKC for two 2nd rounders (Brackins and Pondexter).

Combining the two moves:
Aldrich, Mo Pete, and Songaila
for Willie Green, Jason Smith, and Pondexter

Payroll relief notwithstanding, that's horrible.

[nickagneta]

This one ha to be a head-scratcher from the perspective of Hornets fans. The Hornets gave up the best player of the 4(Songalia, just my opinion) and the player with the most potential(Brackins) and took on more salary to do so.

Strange!!!

Not as strange as trading the 11th pick (Aldrich) and Mo Peterson to OKC for two 2nd rounders (Brackins and Pondexter).

Combining the two moves:
Aldrich, Mo Pete, and Songaila
for Willie Green, Jason Smith, and Pondexter

Payroll relief notwithstanding, that's horrible.

Wasn't Pondexter a first rounder?

Actually like Pondexter as a pro a whole lot more than Aldrich, who I will be a bit of a stiff. To me he looks to be a Nick Collison clone, and I don't mean that as a compliment.

[Lucky17]

This one ha to be a head-scratcher from the perspective of Hornets fans. The Hornets gave up the best player of the 4(Songalia, just my opinion) and the player with the most potential(Brackins) and took on more salary to do so.

Strange!!!

Not as strange as trading the 11th pick (Aldrich) and Mo Peterson to OKC for two 1st rounders (Brackins and Pondexter).

Combining the two moves:
Aldrich, Mo Pete, and Songaila
for Willie Green, Jason Smith, and Pondexter

Payroll relief notwithstanding, that's horrible.

Wasn't Pondexter a first rounder?

Actually like Pondexter as a pro a whole lot more than Aldrich, who I will be a bit of a stiff. To me he looks to be a Nick Collison clone, and I don't mean that as a compliment.

You're right. My head was still in the rookie drafts for the fantasy leagues I run, where picks 1-20 were 1sts, and picks 21-40 were 2nd rounders.

[Witch-King]

Pointless trade ... and a waste of a draft pick (Brackins).

The Hornets have done a very poor job this off-season. They screwed up their lottery pick and their top trade asset (D.Collison) and failed to address the David West + Emeka Okafor situation.

Increasingly likely that Chris Paul leaves the Hornets in the near future. Probably next summer. And the Hornets only have themselves to blame for that. 

I'm hoping the Hornets at least are able to contend for the playoffs this season. If the Hornets, Nuggets and Rockets all tank and don't make the playoffs/are just a cut above the lottery then I'm sure that I could see some of their stars being upset after the regular season ends.

You can't realistically  expect teams like the Warriors, Clippers, Kings or the Timberwolves to just turn it around and land a low playoff seed without some sort of divine intervention or a drastic trade scenario. Who knows, maybe the Grizzlies can sneak into the 8th seed.

Kevin Durant/Thunder > all 'young' teams in the Western Conference, apparently...

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

Songaila is a trooper, a good backup big for a playoff team.

Is that a joke? Have you seen him play? The guy can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

[Lucky17]

Songaila is a trooper, a good backup big for a playoff team.

Is that a joke? Have you seen him play? The guy can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

I have. Hard-nosed, loves physical play. Decent rebounder and scorer per minute.

Why don't you like him?

[Who]

Songaila is a very poor first big man off the bench. A serviceable fourth big in the depth chart (10 minute a night player) or a very good fifth big (non-rotation player).

[nickagneta]

Songaila is a very poor first big man off the bench. A serviceable fourth big in the depth chart (10 minute a night player) or a very good fifth big (non-rotation player).

Songalia is Shelden Williams....without the UNC pedigree and label as "Former 5th Pick in the Draft" following him around.

Same type of player in my book. And a guy that I would definitely want on my team before chuck happy Willie Green and the severely limited since his injury Jason Smith.

Just one man's opinion.

[gar]

Is very simple. They needed Green to back-up Chris Paul. All they have is Mustafa Shakur right now. Green is a Combo Guard; but brings experience and size to that backup position. Brackins is not NBA ready. Jason smith has better size and range. They may loose out on Barkins long-term potential (both Barckins and Smith were taken same place in the draft); however I don't see a down side for the Hornets (unless Smith is unable to rebound from his injury).

[action781]

Songaila is a very poor first big man off the bench. A serviceable fourth big in the depth chart (10 minute a night player) or a very good fifth big (non-rotation player).

Songalia is Shelden Williams....without the UNC pedigree and label as "Former 5th Pick in the Draft" following him around.

Same type of player in my book. And a guy that I would definitely want on my team before chuck happy Willie Green and the severely limited since his injury Jason Smith.

Just one man's opinion.

Duke pedigree, you mean.  But I think Songaila is more valuable than a Sheldon.  Why?  Not sure.  Just think he brings more.

[nickagneta]

Songaila is a very poor first big man off the bench. A serviceable fourth big in the depth chart (10 minute a night player) or a very good fifth big (non-rotation player).

Songalia is Shelden Williams....without the UNC pedigree and label as "Former 5th Pick in the Draft" following him around.

Same type of player in my book. And a guy that I would definitely want on my team before chuck happy Willie Green and the severely limited since his injury Jason Smith.

Just one man's opinion.

Duke pedigree, you mean.  But I think Songaila is more valuable than a Sheldon.  Why?  Not sure.  Just think he brings more.

Ooops. He's a Dukie. Those Tar Heels out there aren't going to like that slip up.  

I always seem to get him and Sean May's college teams mixed up.