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Dwyane Wade is nearing a commitment to sign with Cleveland and could finalize decision as soon as Wednesday, league sources tell ESPN.
Wow that was surprising! What a blockbuster signing for Cleveland. :laugh:
Cleveland also offered Wade a starting role, according to many reporters. But makes sense with Isaiah out for some time. Wade can play but this is definitely not prime Wade of the Miami Big 3 days. Still, solid depth for Cleveland overall and good veteran experience.
To me it seems like Wade never really considered the other teams, it was always to go to Cleveland with Lebron.
OKC would have been more intriguing IMHO but I guess the West is also a battlefield Wade did not want to fight in lol. :P
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not surprising. wants to ride Bron for one last run at a title. he should come in handy if Cavs make it to the finals against GSW. Wade's good for inflicting cheap injuries on the opposition. Curry/Klay/Durant beware ;)
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Wade looked pretty good vs. us in last season's playoffs, at least in one of the early games. I would not write him off yet. Plus he obviously can play with Lebron, and has his trust.
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Quite the arms races going on in the NBA these days.
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Wade looked pretty good vs. us in last season's playoffs, at least in one of the early games. I would not write him off yet. Plus he obviously can play with Lebron, and has his trust.
Yeah he did also have a great Game 5 vs. Boston in a loss (I think he scored 26 points and had 11 rebounds that game? Correct me if I'm wrong)
The biggest factor here though is that Wade can no longer play defense (or he doesn't try one bit).
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Quite the arms races going on in the NBA these days.
Danny probably hoping a guy like Joe Johnson or another guy (like to a smaller extent, Jahlil Okafor) gets bought out elsewhere or something during the season so that he can bring him in via 15th spot.
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Quite the arms races going on in the NBA these days.
Players with a combined SEVENTY-EIGHT All-star appearances changed teams this offseason. And a fair number of them are still in their twenties.
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Quite the arms races going on in the NBA these days.
Players with a combined SEVENTY-EIGHT All-star appearances changed teams this offseason. And a fair number of them are still in their twenties.
It's the Golden State effect.
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Quite the arms races going on in the NBA these days.
Players with a combined SEVENTY-EIGHT All-star appearances changed teams this offseason. And a fair number of them are still in their twenties.
It's the Golden State effect.
pretty much
Lebron started it ....jumping from team to team ....nobody traded him.
Now that GS squad had most of the top ten players .
What did The NBA expect ? KD just copying Lewhine jumping ships.
other words .....better chose up side sides now or be left out in no man s NBA land as a team and player.
Lebrons decsion will again define if Lakers are gonna compete or suck for next 5-10 years. Be sooooo glade when the whiner is finally out of the NBA
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I am not thrilled with the news cause he can definitely still have his moments. However, as other posters have mentioned he is really old and his defense has really fallen off. Also, the Cavs are definitely the far likeliest team in the NBA to be crippled by injuries this year. These are the actual ages of players expected to be in their rotation (what they are or turn during season)
James (33)
Jae Crowder (28)
Wade (36)
Korver (37)
Rose (29) <--- 'most washed up 29 year old in world?
Jr Smith (32)
IT (if healthy) - (29)
Jefferson (37)
Thompson (26)
Love (29)
Jeff Green (31)
Note: I didn't include some other guys both really old (Frye, Calderon) or young (Zizic, Shumpert) cause I don't know where their minutes are coming from.
The only guys you can really classify as young and not an injury risk are Thompson, Crowder and Love. Rose and IT are not standard late 20's players right now. Also, if the Cavs cut Felder I think they have a chance to set record as NBA's oldest team in history but depends on a few of their other camp moves (Knicks set record like 4 years ago on the team Rasheed Wallace was on).
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I am not thrilled with the news cause he can definitely still have his moments. However, as other posters have mentioned he is really old and his defense has really fallen off. Also, the Cavs are definitely the far likeliest team in the NBA to be crippled by injuries this year. These are the actual ages of players expected to be in their rotation (what they are or turn during season)
James (33)
Jae Crowder (28)
Wade (36)
Korver (37)
Rose (29) <--- 'most washed up 29 year old in world?
Jr Smith (32)
IT (if healthy) - (29)
Jefferson (37)
Thompson (26)
Love (29)
Jeff Green (31)
Note: I didn't include some other guys both really old (Frye, Calderon) or young (Zizic, Shumpert) cause I don't know where their minutes are coming from.
The only guys you can really classify as young and not an injury risk are Thompson, Crowder and Love. Rose and IT are not standard late 20's players right now. Also, if the Cavs cut Felder I think they have a chance to set record as NBA's oldest team in history but depends on a few of their other camp moves (Knicks set record like 4 years ago on the team Rasheed Wallace was on).
Isaiah is the real wild card here.
If it turns out his injury is a lot worse than people say, and even if he returns he can only play like 60-70%, that could be a big problem for CLE even with James on their team.
Rose is going to have to both ball AND stay healthy, and same with Wade in that case.
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Does Wade even move the needle for Cleveland? At this point in his career, I don't think so.
I'm curious as to the terms of the deal. Is it a one year deal or multiple years? Are the number of years any indication of LeBron's plans?
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We will fight them with youth. We are faster, younger, and more durable than the cavs
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IT's hip
DRose history of knee issues (last year he was relatively healthy for the most part, given they also missed playoffs)
Wade's age, next year's is gonna be fun for the Cavs
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Quite the arms races going on in the NBA these days.
Players with a combined SEVENTY-EIGHT All-star appearances changed teams this offseason. And a fair number of them are still in their twenties.
It's the Golden State effect.
pretty much
Lebron started it ....jumping from team to team ....nobody traded him.
Yes, LeBron James started Free Agency in the NBA.
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Does Wade even move the needle for Cleveland? At this point in his career, I don't think so.
Yes. He's a lot better than you think he is, still at this point.
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Where does that idiom - "move the needle" come from? I feel like it must've generalized from a highly unrelated phenomenon.
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Where does that idiom - "move the needle" come from? I feel like it must've generalized from a highly unrelated phenomenon.
I believe it's an obscure reference dating from the analog era.
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Does Wade even move the needle for Cleveland? At this point in his career, I don't think so.
Yes. He's a lot better than you think he is, still at this point.
He is going to be 36. They should not start him but probably will.
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What's the Cavs' best lineup?
I would say
Thomas - J.R. - Crowder - Bron - Love/TT (matchup-dependent)
Bench:
Rose, Wade, Korver, Jefferson
Start:
IT, Crowder, Bron, Love, Thompson
A lineup I'd be curious to see:
IT - Wade - J.R. - Crowder - Bron
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Where does that idiom - "move the needle" come from? I feel like it must've generalized from a highly unrelated phenomenon.
I always interpret it as a reference to a needle-gauge measuring some kind of pressure or other metric. (think of the RPM or MPH reading on your car, unless your car has a digital read-out)
For example, imagine you're walking through a previously irradiated area. Does the level of ambient radiation move the needle on your Geiger counter?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Geiger_counter.jpg/1200px-Geiger_counter.jpg)
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Washed up
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What's the Cavs' best lineup?
I would say
Thomas - J.R. - Crowder - Bron - Love/TT (matchup-dependent)
Bench:
Rose, Wade, Korver, Jefferson
Start:
IT, Crowder, Bron, Love, Thompson
A lineup I'd be curious to see:
IT - Wade - J.R. - Crowder - Bron
I think Wade is in their "best" lineup (in place of Smith). I think Wade starts at SG (with Crowder on the bench). The Cavs are a pretty deep team so I expect them to have a lot of rest and a lot of very strange lineups throughout the season and as such expect them to have a mid-tier record (still top 4, but might even be 4 - which would be awful if Boston is 1). However, if they go into the playoffs healthy, they are still easily the team to beat in the East.
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Does Wade even move the needle for Cleveland? At this point in his career, I don't think so.
Yes. He's a lot better than you think he is, still at this point.
He is going to be 36. They should not start him but probably will.
I think he will be big for them especially early in the year, moving the ball and being a playmaker next to LeBron.
I do think he should start personally. The Cavs have a deep team like Moranis says and I think they will use that to their advantage. They don't mind having a better bench and guys to come in like Crowder, who they can even play at the 4.
Crowder might mind tho lol. I like him but I am glad to be rid of that.
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I know he is a still good player, but I don't think his body will allow him to bring it every game. I can easily see him missing 15-20 games this season, so that may have a negative effect on the flow of the offense throughout the year. One other draw back that I see is Wade still seeing himself as a superstar player on par with LeBron. Will he take shots away from more capable players, just so he can justify his star status on the team?
This was Wade's scoring production against the Celtics during their first round match up last season:
Game 1 - 11
Game 2 - 22
Game 3 - 18
Game 4 - 11
Game 5 - 26
Game 6 - 2
He had a monster game 5, but was gassed in game 6, and was inconsistent throughout the series.
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Kyrie had better be careful on opening night. The hit is in.
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Wade will have an "injury" off and on all season so he can be ready and rested for the playoffs
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So is this it? The cavs are officially the "old Celtics big 3" that are past their prime and trying to battle the "young up and coming lebron cavs/heat teams.."
We've officially switched roles. De ja vu
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I know he is a still good player, but I don't think his body will allow him to bring it every game. I can easily see him missing 15-20 games this season, so that may have a negative effect on the flow of the offense throughout the year. One other draw back that I see is Wade still seeing himself as a superstar player on par with LeBron. Will he take shots away from more capable players, just so he can justify his star status on the team?
This was Wade's scoring production against the Celtics during their first round match up last season:
Game 1 - 11
Game 2 - 22
Game 3 - 18
Game 4 - 11
Game 5 - 26
Game 6 - 2
He had a monster game 5, but was gassed in game 6, and was inconsistent throughout the series.
It was more a question of getting to the line. Wade's shots were 12, 16, 18, 12, 18, 10. Game 2 he shot very well and game 6 he shot very poorly, but otherwise wasn't much different (overall poor). In game 3 he got 6 FT's and game 5 he got 10, he wasn't above 2 FT's in any other game. That says it is more about aggression than anything else.
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I know he is a still good player, but I don't think his body will allow him to bring it every game. I can easily see him missing 15-20 games this season, so that may have a negative effect on the flow of the offense throughout the year. One other draw back that I see is Wade still seeing himself as a superstar player on par with LeBron. Will he take shots away from more capable players, just so he can justify his star status on the team?
This was Wade's scoring production against the Celtics during their first round match up last season:
Game 1 - 11
Game 2 - 22
Game 3 - 18
Game 4 - 11
Game 5 - 26
Game 6 - 2
He had a monster game 5, but was gassed in game 6, and was inconsistent throughout the series.
It was more a question of getting to the line. Wade's shots were 12, 16, 18, 12, 18, 10. Game 2 he shot very well and game 6 he shot very poorly, but otherwise wasn't much different (overall poor). In game 3 he got 6 FT's and game 5 he got 10, he wasn't above 2 FT's in any other game. That says it is more about aggression than anything else.
He is very old. He will be 36 halfway through the season.
To put this in perspective, Pierce, a player that probably relied on less athleticism throughout the year was 36 in his season in Brooklyn. That year his scoring per game plummeted from 18 to 13, his assists were cut in half and his minutes also declined and played 5 less minutes a game. His shooting stayed pretty consistent but he was clearly no longer the same player. The next season he fossilized further on Washington. It certainly would not be surprising to see Wade fall off a cliff here, especially as a guy that has had a lot of nagging injuries throughout this career. When these guys fall to age a lot of times it is very swift.
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So is this it? The cavs are officially the "old Celtics big 3" that are past their prime and trying to battle the "young up and coming lebron cavs/heat teams.."
We've officially switched roles. De ja vu
The Cavs will really feel their age on the defensive end next year. Lebron really can't play intense defense throughout the game anymore. Love has always mediocre. Wade, Korver, Rose and IT are awful.
Crowder can be ok if he stops the regression and Thompson is good in most options. Overall really limited defensive options for them. This team would be so much scarier if they had infused some youth and athleticism from Butler or George.
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So is this it? The cavs are officially the "old Celtics big 3" that are past their prime and trying to battle the "young up and coming lebron cavs/heat teams.."
We've officially switched roles. De ja vu
The Cavs will really feel their age on the defensive end next year. Lebron really can't play intense defense throughout the game anymore. Love has always mediocre. Wade, Korver, Rose and IT are awful.
Crowder can be ok if he stops the regression and Thompson is good in most options. Overall really limited defensive options for them. This team would be so much scarier if they had infused some youth and athleticism from Butler or George.
will the results be the same on the East side
the newly formed Heat at their peak in a way made Ainge realize it was time to move on from the big 3
can the new Celtics young big 3 force Cleveland old 3 break up?
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I know he is a still good player, but I don't think his body will allow him to bring it every game. I can easily see him missing 15-20 games this season, so that may have a negative effect on the flow of the offense throughout the year. One other draw back that I see is Wade still seeing himself as a superstar player on par with LeBron. Will he take shots away from more capable players, just so he can justify his star status on the team?
This was Wade's scoring production against the Celtics during their first round match up last season:
Game 1 - 11
Game 2 - 22
Game 3 - 18
Game 4 - 11
Game 5 - 26
Game 6 - 2
He had a monster game 5, but was gassed in game 6, and was inconsistent throughout the series.
It was more a question of getting to the line. Wade's shots were 12, 16, 18, 12, 18, 10. Game 2 he shot very well and game 6 he shot very poorly, but otherwise wasn't much different (overall poor). In game 3 he got 6 FT's and game 5 he got 10, he wasn't above 2 FT's in any other game. That says it is more about aggression than anything else.
He is very old. He will be 36 halfway through the season.
To put this in perspective, Pierce, a player that probably relied on less athleticism throughout the year was 36 in his season in Brooklyn. That year his scoring per game plummeted from 18 to 13, his assists were cut in half and his minutes also declined and played 5 less minutes a game. His shooting stayed pretty consistent but he was clearly no longer the same player. The next season he fossilized further on Washington. It certainly would not be surprising to see Wade fall off a cliff here, especially as a guy that has had a lot of nagging injuries throughout this career. When these guys fall to age a lot of times it is very swift.
I think that's already happened to Wade. He looked very old in the playoffs last year. I don't think The Cavs can rest all those players all year. The Cavs would really benefit more from some young players to help them through the regular season, see Spurs and Warriors.
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On a slightly different topic... the NBA has to do something about the buyouts. It makes it easier for already-contending teams to run away from the pack. And yes, I know that the Celtics won a title in '08 in part because they picked up PJ Brown.
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On a slightly different topic... the NBA has to do something about the buyouts. It makes it easier for already-contending teams to run away from the pack. And yes, I know that the Celtics won a title in '08 in part because they picked up PJ Brown.
why? The buyouts are mutual. Would you be saying this is we signed wade? Lol
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On a slightly different topic... the NBA has to do something about the buyouts. It makes it easier for already-contending teams to run away from the pack. And yes, I know that the Celtics won a title in '08 in part because they picked up PJ Brown.
PJ was retired, though, not bought out. We got Sam Cassell through buy-out and he was nearly useless and kept the more effective Eddie House off the court for much of the playoffs. So we're still good ;)
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Wade and D-Rose are redundant. Two old guys who struggle on defense, have poor jump-shots and need the ball in their hands to be useful.
The Cavs are going to struggle fitting both of these into their team. Tough to play them alongside one another given their combined (and similar) strengths & weaknesses. Nevermind LeBron as well next to them.
I reckon a lot of their (D-Rose, D-Wade) offense will come at the expense of K-Love. Their isn't enough touches or shot attempts to go around. I believe Love will see less of the ball next year because of these two guard's ball dominant ways. Less Love is bad for Cleveland. They already under-utilize Love offensively. Especially in their failure to take advantage of his high post passing skills. So more D-Rose and D-Wade scoring at cost of K-Love's scoring who is the more efficient and consistent scoring threat. And more ball-handling 25 feet from the basket instead with a set defense in front of them instead of utilizing Love's passing ability inside the arc. More predicable offense, less variety to their offense and easier to defend.
Even worse is the defensive situation in the backcourt. D-Rose is a train-wreck on defense. Even worse than IT. Wade is better but still a liability. Throw in Calderon as the alternate (who shouldn't even be in the NBA anymore given how much of a liability he is on defense and how limited he is on offense) and Cleveland has a major quickness + defensive issue in the backcourt. Like that Brooklyn team with Pierce and KG a few years ago. JR Smith is literally their best defensive player in the backcourt -- and it isn't even close! Which is amazing. How a team expects to contend with such a shoddy and slow defensive backcourt ... I do not know. And it's not like Cleveland is blessed with a top notch interior defender & shot blocker either. This team is going to be in the bottom 3rd defensively next year. No question in my mind about that.
They got a lot of issues they need to fix between now and the trade deadline.
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He owes IT an apology for hard fouling him so hard he was out for at least 2 weeks.
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so all the old gang are gonna be this season. .....whoo hoo...... Im sure they will all get along fabulous and not complain. ;D
They will all bolt to LA for a tour with Lavars family . Sell some BiG Baller shoes ...Wonder if Lebron is gonna hep out brother Lavar sell shoes .
That should really be a three ring Circus . And even better if Melo joins them.
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Wade and D-Rose are redundant. Two old guys who struggle on defense, have poor jump-shots and need the ball in their hands to be useful.
The Cavs are going to struggle fitting both of these into their team. Tough to play them alongside one another given their combined (and similar) strengths & weaknesses. Nevermind LeBron as well next to them.
I expect Rose to get more play with the starters at the beginning of the season while Isaiah rehabs.
By springtime, Rose will likely be playing fewer minutes off the bench. I doubt he plays a larger role during the playoffs than Deron played for them this past season.
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Wade and D-Rose are redundant. Two old guys who struggle on defense, have poor jump-shots and need the ball in their hands to be useful.
The Cavs are going to struggle fitting both of these into their team. Tough to play them alongside one another given their combined (and similar) strengths & weaknesses. Nevermind LeBron as well next to them.
I expect Rose to get more play with the starters at the beginning of the season while Isaiah rehabs.
By springtime, Rose will likely be playing fewer minutes off the bench. I doubt he plays a larger role during the playoffs than Deron played for them this past season.
what are the chances Rose plays much better with LeBron than he did with Melo
last year he's played 64 games with 18 ppg, a bit better than his previous season with Chicago at 66 games at 16 ppg.
If for the most part he is healthy, and plays well and they're winning, IT might be bought off the bench in Cleveland...
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Wade and D-Rose are redundant. Two old guys who struggle on defense, have poor jump-shots and need the ball in their hands to be useful.
The Cavs are going to struggle fitting both of these into their team. Tough to play them alongside one another given their combined (and similar) strengths & weaknesses. Nevermind LeBron as well next to them.
I expect Rose to get more play with the starters at the beginning of the season while Isaiah rehabs.
By springtime, Rose will likely be playing fewer minutes off the bench. I doubt he plays a larger role during the playoffs than Deron played for them this past season.
It seems like that could really upset Rose and cost him a lot of money. He needs to show he can stay healthy and play significant minutes at 28 years old on a one year deal. This IT/Smith/Rose/Wade seems like it could be a disaster for a lot of reasons.
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A lineup I'd be curious to see:
IT - Wade - J.R. - Crowder - Bron
TP. I would like to see Cleveland try out a lineup with James at center to counter the death lineup by Golden State. It will never happen, but if James would agree to become the full time center this would create so much options for Cleveland on offense. And their rotations would become more easy to manage in terms of minutes and fit.
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Wade and D-Rose are redundant. Two old guys who struggle on defense, have poor jump-shots and need the ball in their hands to be useful.
The Cavs are going to struggle fitting both of these into their team. Tough to play them alongside one another given their combined (and similar) strengths & weaknesses. Nevermind LeBron as well next to them.
I expect Rose to get more play with the starters at the beginning of the season while Isaiah rehabs.
By springtime, Rose will likely be playing fewer minutes off the bench. I doubt he plays a larger role during the playoffs than Deron played for them this past season.
It seems like that could really upset Rose and cost him a lot of money. He needs to show he can stay healthy and play significant minutes at 28 years old on a one year deal. This IT/Smith/Rose/Wade seems like it could be a disaster for a lot of reasons.
That's what I was thinking. Someone's going to end up with the short stick, minutes-wise, here and I'm not sure which one of this group is going to be the magnanimous one.
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This is like a 2016-17 Bulls/Knicks medley, but with Lebron in place of Butler/Melo.
I know it looks interesting on paper, but this has the possibility of going full-on train wreck. This seems like too much of a good(bad!) thing. Who is going to play and when? Does anybody trust that Ty Lue is going to figure out successful rotations for this team? The roster makes very little sense and guys like Love, Crowder, and IT are going to get lost in the fray...and they're the ones who should be leading the charge behind Lebron.
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"IT/Smith/Rose/Wade" none of these guys can defend.
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They should change their nickname to Cleveland Wheelchairlers
you kidding me? lol
Watch for practice only a few players show up as Dwade , Drose etc don't attend practices consistently
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They should change their nickname to Cleveland Wheelchairlers
you kidding me? lol
Watch for practice only a few players show up as Dwade , Drose etc don't attend practices consistently
It does feel a bit like the Barkley / Pippen Rockets or the Lakers with Payton / Malone.
The difference is that Lebron can carry a team on his own.
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They should change their nickname to Cleveland Wheelchairlers
you kidding me? lol
Watch for practice only a few players show up as Dwade , Drose etc don't attend practices consistently
It does feel a bit like the Barkley / Pippen Rockets or the Lakers with Payton / Malone.
The difference is that Lebron can carry a team on his own.
Lebron should get tested for PED
the NBA is the one league that seems like they close their eyes on this issue
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But if you smoke/consume greens.... they will come down on you hard
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I guess Cleveland forgot that their backcourt has to defend Curry and Thompson. Or Durant on switches. Or that they gave up 121.6 points per game to GS in the Finals last season. Or that they'll no matter how many washed up stars they add they'll never be able to outscore GS to win 4 games out of 7.
It's too bad because minus D-Wade, I'd prefer the Cavs to beat GS next year. But now I'm not so sure about that. It's irrelevant I guess because it's not going to happen anyway.
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I guess Cleveland forgot that their backcourt has to defend Curry and Thompson. Or Durant on switches. Or that they gave up 121.6 points per game to GS in the Finals last season. Or that they'll no matter how many washed up stars they add they'll never be able to outscore GS to win 4 games out of 7.
It's too bad because minus D-Wade, I'd prefer the Cavs to beat GS next year. But now I'm not so sure about that. It's irrelevant I guess because it's not going to happen anyway.
The Celtics will beat Cleveland this year in the playoffs and play Golden State or whoever comes out of the West. I am all in on this Celtics squad.
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So none of what should be their regular lineups should be any good at defense.
They could run out Shump, Crowder, Thompson, and Lebron, but I'm not even sure I could think of one other good defender in the bunch.
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Seems like LeBron's trying to field an all-geriatric team—Wade, Korver, Jefferson, Frye, Calderon. Aye carumba.
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Looking at this Cleveland team though.. man if Lebron ever misses time due to injury/rest, lets be real, they will get KILLED.
Yeah maybe you can say the same about previous year's teams, but literally other teams with their youth can probably run all over the Cavs old bench LOL.
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Looking at this Cleveland team though.. man if Lebron ever misses time due to injury/rest, lets be real, they will get KILLED.
Yeah maybe you can say the same about previous year's teams, but literally other teams with their youth can probably run all over the Cavs old bench LOL.
The Cavs bench literally might not be able to run. :P
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Not surprised Wade chose his good friend LeBron.
I'm not sure I love the fit, but I guess that depends on his role. He'd be a lot better as a 6th man than as a starter.
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That Brooklyn is about to become very significant.
They can flip it for DeMarcus Cousins.
And when you have a starting 5 of...IT3/Wade/LeBron/Love/Cousins...oh man. Dangerous, dangerous.
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The Cavs' starting lineup for the first half of the season currently projects to be as follows:
- PG - Derrick Rose
- SG - Dwyane Wade
- SF - Lebron James
- PF - Kevin Love
- C - Tristan Thompson
Based on the above, I have one question I would like feedback one.
What will be worse - Cleveland's outside shooting, or their defence?
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The Cavs' starting lineup for the first half of the season currently projects to be as follows:
- PG - Derrick Rose
- SG - Dwyane Wade
- SF - Lebron James
- PF - Kevin Love
- C - Tristan Thompson
Based on the above, I have one question I would like feedback one.
What will be worse - Cleveland's outside shooting, or their defence?
I think it'll be defense-you still have Love that now rains 3s automatically and a LeBron that can make 3s (I know he's not the best but he's still pretty good), and DRose and Wade have the occasional clutch 3 to show for it.
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That Brooklyn is about to become very significant.
They can flip it for DeMarcus Cousins.
And when you have a starting 5 of...IT3/Wade/LeBron/Love/Cousins...oh man. Dangerous, dangerous.
With how weak NYK is now the Brooklyn pick is considerably less valuable. There are many teams on the same tier of terrible as Brooklyn, if not worse.
No way could they snag Cousins for just the pick. Love and the pick maybe
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That Brooklyn is about to become very significant.
They can flip it for DeMarcus Cousins.
And when you have a starting 5 of...IT3/Wade/LeBron/Love/Cousins...oh man. Dangerous, dangerous.
With how weak NYK is now the Brooklyn pick is considerably less valuable. There are many teams on the same tier of terrible as Brooklyn, if not worse.
No way could they snag Cousins for just the pick. Love and the pick maybe
At the tradeline the BRK pick would be an overpay if NOP is out of the playoff race and Boogie is thinking about leaving.
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That Brooklyn is about to become very significant.
They can flip it for DeMarcus Cousins.
And when you have a starting 5 of...IT3/Wade/LeBron/Love/Cousins...oh man. Dangerous, dangerous.
With how weak NYK is now the Brooklyn pick is considerably less valuable. There are many teams on the same tier of terrible as Brooklyn, if not worse.
No way could they snag Cousins for just the pick. Love and the pick maybe
At the tradeline the BRK pick would be an overpay if NOP is out of the playoff race and Boogie is thinking about leaving.
You're not wrong Roy, but what other asset do they have? Will The Pelicans take something like Tristian Thompson and filler for DMC? Cleveland has no picks right?
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Does Wade even move the needle for Cleveland? At this point in his career, I don't think so.
I'm curious as to the terms of the deal. Is it a one year deal or multiple years? Are the number of years any indication of LeBron's plans?
certainly. his contract is nothing and he can be the Cavs version of Sean Livingston.
Can create his own shot, get to the line, and can be a scoring option especially vs 2nd units.
Great signing. That is a roster that can beat Cleveland in my opinion.
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That Brooklyn is about to become very significant.
They can flip it for DeMarcus Cousins.
And when you have a starting 5 of...IT3/Wade/LeBron/Love/Cousins...oh man. Dangerous, dangerous.
With how weak NYK is now the Brooklyn pick is considerably less valuable. There are many teams on the same tier of terrible as Brooklyn, if not worse.
No way could they snag Cousins for just the pick. Love and the pick maybe
At the tradeline the BRK pick would be an overpay if NOP is out of the playoff race and Boogie is thinking about leaving.
You're not wrong Roy, but what other asset do they have? Will The Pelicans take something like Tristian Thompson and filler for DMC? Cleveland has no picks right?
They also have their own pick this year. But I could see them going for Marc Gasol, which could arguably be even more frightening, in my opinion. I think Shumpert-Frye-salaryfiller(Zizic?)-brn1st gets it done. And a Gasol-Love-James front court would be the best in the league by a mile.
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Does anyone here think DMC and LeBron can coexist? I don't.
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Outside shooting and D are areas of weakness, but depth will make up for that.
If Lue splits minutes effectively to keep players fresh, you're gonna see shooters (Korver, Frye, Smith, Green, Crowder) and defenders (Shump, Smith?, Green?, Crowder) subbing in to help in game specific scenarios.
Lue has 15 guys to use like a Swiss Army knife. Crowder and Green, I believe, will be massively useful for helping LeBron on the wing, keeping him fresh.
IT, Rose, Wade can push the offense with second units, and Love remains a big #2 scoring option behind LeBron.
Calderon, Jefferson and some others may need to be cut. Pretty interesting overall if you ask me.
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Outside shooting and D are areas of weakness, but depth will make up for that.
If Lue splits minutes effectively to keep players fresh, you're gonna see shooters (Korver, Frye, Smith, Green, Crowder) and defenders (Shump, Smith?, Green?, Crowder) subbing in to help in game specific scenarios.
A lineup of IT, Wade, LeBron, Crowder, Love for example would be really interesting. They can do a lot of cool things with that lineup and they have a lot of shooting to help Wade out. It's an interesting roster.
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Outside shooting and D are areas of weakness, but depth will make up for that.
If Lue splits minutes effectively to keep players fresh, you're gonna see shooters (Korver, Frye, Smith, Green, Crowder) and defenders (Shump, Smith?, Green?, Crowder) subbing in to help in game specific scenarios.
A lineup of IT, Wade, LeBron, Crowder, Love for example would be really interesting. They can do a lot of cool things with that lineup and they have a lot of shooting to help Wade out. It's an interesting roster.
Offensively that would be a lot of fun to watch. Defensively its borderline hilarious. Crowder has become overrated defensively, Love is what he is, and IT+ Wade has to be in the contention for the worst defensive back court in the NBA.