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Willie Cauley-Stein?
« on: June 18, 2019, 10:18:59 AM »

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He's a RFA assuming the Kings make the qualifying offer by June 30. 25 years old, going into year 5. Certainly far from perfect - a little scoping around some Kings sources tells me he's inconsistent and can follow great nights with lousy ones. He's long, bouncy, can rebound and finish, etc... worth a flyer, or we'd rather spend money elsewhere and hope Time Lord can be 80% of that in Year 2?
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He's a RFA assuming the Kings make the qualifying offer by June 30. 25 years old, going into year 5. Certainly far from perfect - a little scoping around some Kings sources tells me he's inconsistent and can follow great nights with lousy ones. He's long, bouncy, can rebound and finish, etc... worth a flyer, or we'd rather spend money elsewhere and hope Time Lord can be 80% of that in Year 2?

Williams can bring what WCS brings.

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2019, 10:23:34 AM »

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If the Kings give him his QO, I highly doubt we can sign him.  His QO is $6.3 million.  The most we can offer him in year 1 is $8.9 million.  At that difference, the Kings probably match our offer sheet if we can even convince him to sign it, as opposed to waiting for unrestricted free agency in a year.

If the Kings don’t give him the QO I am interested.

Re: Willie Cauley-Stein?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2019, 10:26:20 AM »

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If the Kings give him his QO, I highly doubt we can sign him.  His QO is $6.3 million.  The most we can offer him in year 1 is $8.9 million.  At that difference, the Kings probably match our offer sheet if we can even convince him to sign it, as opposed to waiting for unrestricted free agency in a year.

If the Kings don’t give him the QO I am interested.

Good point re: $$$. I would be surprised if they didn't sign, though it seems Divac and co. aren't super high on him, want an upgrade there, and WCS isn't thrilled with his limited role. I think all of that is silly but worth monitoring.
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2019, 10:27:39 AM »

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If Horford walks I could see us looking into him. But if Horford stays the MLE will need to go to a guard and the MLE will be the only way we could possibly sign him in that case (short of a sign and trade with one of our departing free agents).
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2019, 11:30:24 AM »

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If Horford walks, I'd be very interested in him.  He's a super intelligent defender and makes lots of plays that don't show up in the box score.
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Re: Willie Cauley-Stein?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2019, 11:39:49 AM »

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ROFL is it the same person that brings this guy up every Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing year? It drives me crazy to listen to the same people beat the drum for the same dead beats every Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.n year!!!!!!!!!!

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ROFL is it the same person that brings this guy up every ****ing year? It drives me crazy to listen to the same people beat the drum for the same dead beats every ****n year!!!!!!!!!!
This seems like a weird overreaction, especially considering WCS is coming off his best rebounding year
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2019, 12:40:25 PM »

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ROFL is it the same person that brings this guy up every ****ing year? It drives me crazy to listen to the same people beat the drum for the same dead beats every ****n year!!!!!!!!!!

...nope
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Re: Willie Cauley-Stein?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2019, 12:51:24 PM »

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I just don’t understand the reasoning behind some of the people y’all advocate for. This dude can’t shoot, and couldn’t even average a block a game. What use is he???? 4 years as a starting Center on a bad team and still can’t crack 10 boards? He’s not great at anything and doesn’t show potential in ever being great at anything, Smh y’all crazy

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This.  I wouldn't pay anything more than the veteran minimum for the guy. 

I just don’t understand the reasoning behind some of the people y’all advocate for. This dude can’t shoot, and couldn’t even average a block a game. What use is he???? 4 years as a starting Center on a bad team and still can’t crack 10 boards? He’s not great at anything and doesn’t show potential in ever being great at anything, Smh y’all crazy

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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2019, 03:43:09 PM »

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I like him, mostly for his potential as a defender. Pretty agile for a guy his size. Can run the floor and catch lobs. Don't now how much I would pay the guy, but probably not enough to make it so the Kings don't match.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2019, 04:24:09 PM »

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ROFL is it the same person that brings this guy up every ****ing year? It drives me crazy to listen to the same people beat the drum for the same dead beats every ****n year!!!!!!!!!!
This seems like a weird overreaction, especially considering WCS is coming off his best rebounding year

He's not a bad player what drives me crazy is people falling in love with guys that are just decent players than coming on here and pinning for them continually. I had to listen for years about the center in Milwaukee that eventually quit! I'd take WCS on the team on a fair contract even though he does not fit into Brad's system at all.

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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2019, 05:14:55 PM »

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ROFL is it the same person that brings this guy up every ****ing year? It drives me crazy to listen to the same people beat the drum for the same dead beats every ****n year!!!!!!!!!!
This seems like a weird overreaction, especially considering WCS is coming off his best rebounding year

He's not a bad player what drives me crazy is people falling in love with guys that are just decent players than coming on here and pinning for them continually. I had to listen for years about the center in Milwaukee that eventually quit! I'd take WCS on the team on a fair contract even though he does not fit into Brad's system at all.

I don't think anyone in this thread has expressed "falling in love" with WCS... just gauging if it's worth kicking tires. You apparently think not, which is fine. I'm ambivalent and wanted to know what anyone else thought.
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2019, 05:37:46 PM »

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He's a RFA assuming the Kings make the qualifying offer by June 30. 25 years old, going into year 5. Certainly far from perfect - a little scoping around some Kings sources tells me he's inconsistent and can follow great nights with lousy ones. He's long, bouncy, can rebound and finish, etc... worth a flyer, or we'd rather spend money elsewhere and hope Time Lord can be 80% of that in Year 2?

Williams can bring what WCS brings.
Hopefully he'll be even better, but we're not even sure Williams is worthy of a roster spot, while WCS averaged 12/8 last year.