Fire Joe! ... or critique Joe ... or defend Joe... or worry about Joe's coaching

[Goldstar88]

The win against the Pelicans has Joe clinging to his job by his fingernails...surely he will be given his marching orders after our next loss, so we can get the coach we deserve. Stan Van Gundy is available isn't he? Maybe he and his brother can do a co-coach thing with us 

Yes, the Vangundy brothers. Please.

[Neurotic Guy]

There have been a few end of quarter/half plays recently that have broken the iso-mold - one in particular led by Pritchard breaking down the defense and finding the open man. 

Also, I think it’s fair (somewhat) to view the second Atlanta game a little differently.  They did head into the last possession in regulation with the lead and they did make the go-ahead basket in OT with 6 seconds left.  Atlanta did what all NBA teams are capable of in their last possessions - they tied the Cs in regulation and they won the game with a very nice midrange with .01 remaining on OT. Point being the Celtics played well enough in the last minute(s) to win that one.   

Overall, it’s worrisome but I can’t wait for the playoffs.

[tenn_smoothie]

Tough position for Mazzulla. If he doesn’t win every game, including a title, all we will hear is see I told you he was a bad coach.

I accuse Joe of being a bad coach for very specific reasons, not based on him not "winning every game".
His offensive philosophy and strategy are the #1 problem, his relative lack of emphasis on defensive intensity compared to Udoka being #2, his poor in-game management decisions #3, his lack of player accountability #4 and his arrogant stubbornness being #5.

[Silas]

Tough position for Mazzulla. If he doesn’t win every game, including a title, all we will hear is see I told you he was a bad coach.

I accuse Joe of being a bad coach for very specific reasons, not based on him not "winning every game".
His offensive philosophy and strategy are the #1 problem, his relative lack of emphasis on defensive intensity compared to Udoka being #2, his poor in-game management decisions #3, his lack of player accountability #4 and his arrogant stubbornness being #5.

#1 problem...#1 offense in the NBA.  #2 problem...#2 defense in the NBA.

[Goldstar88]

Tough position for Mazzulla. If he doesn’t win every game, including a title, all we will hear is see I told you he was a bad coach.

I accuse Joe of being a bad coach for very specific reasons, not based on him not "winning every game".
His offensive philosophy and strategy are the #1 problem, his relative lack of emphasis on defensive intensity compared to Udoka being #2, his poor in-game management decisions #3, his lack of player accountability #4 and his arrogant stubbornness being #5.

#1 problem...#1 offense in the NBA.  #2 problem...#2 defense in the NBA.

Boom. Roasted! 

[SHAQATTACK]

Saint Joe

[tenn_smoothie]

Tough position for Mazzulla. If he doesn’t win every game, including a title, all we will hear is see I told you he was a bad coach.

I accuse Joe of being a bad coach for very specific reasons, not based on him not "winning every game".
His offensive philosophy and strategy are the #1 problem, his relative lack of emphasis on defensive intensity compared to Udoka being #2, his poor in-game management decisions #3, his lack of player accountability #4 and his arrogant stubbornness being #5.

#1 problem...#1 offense in the NBA.  #2 problem...#2 defense in the NBA.

Boom. Roasted! 

Not so fast my friend ............

I know all about our current regular season rankings. We have seen this before.

The fact remains we lose games we should not because of the reasons I listed. We chronically become stagnant on offense in the 4th quarter in close games. What do you think we are going to be dealing with in the playoffs ? Play slows down, defense is more intense and is dialed in to attack a team's tendencies due to scouting, multiple games and more focused coaching. Joe's one-dimensional approach combined with the J's low BBIQ will be a problem. Tatum shows no sign of cutting back on his bad shot selection. Why he is out front with the ball on so many half-court possessions when we have two very good playmaking guards is beyond me. Playoffs, playoffs, playoffs !!

Having said all that, I hope that I am wrong.

[Roy H.]

Tough position for Mazzulla. If he doesn’t win every game, including a title, all we will hear is see I told you he was a bad coach.

I accuse Joe of being a bad coach for very specific reasons, not based on him not "winning every game".
His offensive philosophy and strategy are the #1 problem, his relative lack of emphasis on defensive intensity compared to Udoka being #2, his poor in-game management decisions #3, his lack of player accountability #4 and his arrogant stubbornness being #5.

#1 problem...#1 offense in the NBA.  #2 problem...#2 defense in the NBA.

Boom. Roasted! 

Not so fast my friend ............

I know all about our current regular season rankings. We have seen this before.

The fact remains we lose games we should not because of the reasons I listed. We chronically become stagnant on offense in the 4th quarter in close games. What do you think we are going to be dealing with in the playoffs ? Play slows down, defense is more intense and is dialed in to attack a team's tendencies due to scouting, multiple games and more focused coaching. Joe's one-dimensional approach combined with the J's low BBIQ will be a problem. Tatum shows no sign of cutting back on his bad shot selection. Why he is out front with the ball on so many half-court possessions when we have two very good playmaking guards is beyond me. Playoffs, playoffs, playoffs !!

Having said all that, I hope that I am wrong.

Yeah. 

Last year:  2nd Off Rtg; 3rd Def Rtg; 1st Net Rtg
This year:  1st Off Rtg; 3rd Def Rtg; 1st Net Rtg

But, last year we had four blown leads of 10+ that resulted in losses, in addition to the collapse before the Derrick White miracle.  Meanwhile, our defense cratered to 10th out of 16 teams.

 

[Kernewek]

I draw conclusions about playoff success from past playoffs more than I do meaningless regular season games.
There’s something wrong with the make up of this core when it comes to crunch time close games and it only gets worse the bigger the game is so unless they can front run and dominate there way to a title im not loving there chances

You don't believe that the core of the team is fundamentally different this season?

I asked ScarryJerry earlier in the thread, but I'd put it to everyone else talking about their performance in last year's playoffs as well: do you feel that the core of the team is fundamentally different from last year through 75+ games? If not, why not?

[Roy H.]

I draw conclusions about playoff success from past playoffs more than I do meaningless regular season games.
There’s something wrong with the make up of this core when it comes to crunch time close games and it only gets worse the bigger the game is so unless they can front run and dominate there way to a title im not loving there chances

You don't believe that the core of the team is fundamentally different this season?

I asked ScarryJerry earlier in the thread, but I'd put it to everyone else talking about their performance in last year's playoffs as well: do you feel that the core of the team is fundamentally different from last year through 75+ games? If not, why not?

The personnel has changed a lot.  The "core" is still Tatum and JB, though.  And, we're still coached by the same guy.  So, it's pretty fair for fans to take a "show me" approach.  For all the talk about how we're a different team this year, we had a very successful regular season last year, as well.  Proof is in the playoffs.

[SHAQATTACK]

I draw conclusions about playoff success from past playoffs more than I do meaningless regular season games.
There’s something wrong with the make up of this core when it comes to crunch time close games and it only gets worse the bigger the game is so unless they can front run and dominate there way to a title im not loving there chances
[ / :)quote]
You don't believe that the core of the team is fundamentally different this season?

I asked ScarryJerry earlier in the thread, but I'd put it to everyone else talking about their performance in last year's playoffs as well: do you feel that the core of the team is fundamentally different from last year through 75+ games? If not, why not?

The personnel has changed a lot…….Proof is in the playoffs.

Bingo 

[Goldstar88]

I draw conclusions about playoff success from past playoffs more than I do meaningless regular season games.
There’s something wrong with the make up of this core when it comes to crunch time close games and it only gets worse the bigger the game is so unless they can front run and dominate there way to a title im not loving there chances
[ / :)quote]
You don't believe that the core of the team is fundamentally different this season?

I asked ScarryJerry earlier in the thread, but I'd put it to everyone else talking about their performance in last year's playoffs as well: do you feel that the core of the team is fundamentally different from last year through 75+ games? If not, why not?

The personnel has changed a lot…….Proof is in the playoffs.

Bingo 

So if the proof is in the playoffs, why is this thread getting bumped after every loss during the Celtics (excellent) regular season?

[Roy H.]

I draw conclusions about playoff success from past playoffs more than I do meaningless regular season games.
There’s something wrong with the make up of this core when it comes to crunch time close games and it only gets worse the bigger the game is so unless they can front run and dominate there way to a title im not loving there chances
[ / :)quote]
You don't believe that the core of the team is fundamentally different this season?

I asked ScarryJerry earlier in the thread, but I'd put it to everyone else talking about their performance in last year's playoffs as well: do you feel that the core of the team is fundamentally different from last year through 75+ games? If not, why not?

The personnel has changed a lot…….Proof is in the playoffs.

Bingo 

So if the proof is in the playoffs, why is this thread getting bumped after every loss during the Celtics (excellent) regular season?

Why does any thread get bumped?  Why not just wait until the end of the season and do a retrospective take?

[Donoghus]

I draw conclusions about playoff success from past playoffs more than I do meaningless regular season games.
There’s something wrong with the make up of this core when it comes to crunch time close games and it only gets worse the bigger the game is so unless they can front run and dominate there way to a title im not loving there chances
[ / :)quote]
You don't believe that the core of the team is fundamentally different this season?

I asked ScarryJerry earlier in the thread, but I'd put it to everyone else talking about their performance in last year's playoffs as well: do you feel that the core of the team is fundamentally different from last year through 75+ games? If not, why not?

The personnel has changed a lot…….Proof is in the playoffs.

Bingo 

So if the proof is in the playoffs, why is this thread getting bumped after every loss during the Celtics (excellent) regular season?

Probably because its been modified to also be a critigue or defend thread and not just an outright call to fire the guy.

[Goldstar88]

I draw conclusions about playoff success from past playoffs more than I do meaningless regular season games.
There’s something wrong with the make up of this core when it comes to crunch time close games and it only gets worse the bigger the game is so unless they can front run and dominate there way to a title im not loving there chances
[ / :)quote]
You don't believe that the core of the team is fundamentally different this season?

I asked ScarryJerry earlier in the thread, but I'd put it to everyone else talking about their performance in last year's playoffs as well: do you feel that the core of the team is fundamentally different from last year through 75+ games? If not, why not?

The personnel has changed a lot…….Proof is in the playoffs.

Bingo 

So if the proof is in the playoffs, why is this thread getting bumped after every loss during the Celtics (excellent) regular season?

Probably because its been modified to also be a critigue or defend thread and not just an outright call to fire the guy.

The title may have been modified, but the thread seems the same as it always has been. Luckily the playoffs will be here soon enough.