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Bulls (5-13) at Celtics (13-4) Game #18 11/28/23
« on: November 27, 2023, 09:29:03 PM »

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Chicago Bulls (5-13) at Boston Celtics (13-4)
Tuesday, November 28, 2023
7:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #18, Home Game #8
TV: NBCSB, NBCSCH, NBA-LP
Radio: 98.5 The Sports Hub,  670 The Score
TD Garden



Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard
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Jrue Holiday vs Coby White

Shooting Guard

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Derrick White  vs Zach LaVine

Small Forward
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Jaylen Brown vs DeMar DeRozan

Power Forward
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Jayson Tatum vs Patrick Williams

Center
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Al Horford vs Nikola Vucevic
 
Celtics Reserves
Delano Banton
Oshae Brissett
Sam Hauser
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Svi Mykhailiuk
Payton Pritchard
Lamar Stevens
Jordan Walsh

2 Way Players
JD Davison
Nathan Knight
Neemias Queta

Injuries/Out
Kristaps Porzingis (calf) out
Jrue Holiday (ankle) questionable

Head Coach
Joe Mazzulla

Bulls Reserves
Jevon Carter
Torrey Craig
Ayo Dosunmu
Andre Drummond
Julian Phillips
Terry Taylor
Dalen Terry

Two Way Players
Onuralp Bitim
Justin Lewis
Adama Sanogo

Injuries/Out
Lonzo Ball (knee) out
Alex Caruso (toe) questionable
Zach LaVine (foot) questionable

Game Notes
The Celtics host the Chicago Bulls for their 4th and final pool play game for East Group C of the In Season Tournament.   This is the first of 3 meetings between these two teams this season.  They will meet again on February 22 and on March 23, both in Chicago.  The Celtics and Bulls tied the series last season 2-2 with each team winning on their home court. 

The Celtics are 2nd in East Group C with a 2-1 record, behind the Magic, who are 3-1.  The Bulls are last  in the group with a 0-3 record.  If the Celtics win this game and tie the Magic with a 3-1 group record,  the tie breaker will then be total point differentials.  To win the group and advance, the Celtics will need to beat the Bulls by at least 23 points and the Nets will need to beat the Raptors by fewer than 15 points.   

The Celtics are first in the East going into this game, 1 game ahead of both Milwaukee and Orlando.  They are 7-0 at home and 8-2 in their last 10 games.  They are 12-3 against Eastern Conference teams.  They are coming off a win in their last game.  The Bulls are 13th in the East.  They are 1-7 on the road and 2-8 in their last 10 games.  They are 4-8 against the Eastern Conference and have lost their last 4 games. 

The Celtics are playing in the 2nd of a 7 game home stand.  They won the first game over the Hawks on Sunday.  They will host Philadelphia on Friday and then Cleveland twice and Orlando twice after the In Season Tournament.  Chicago is playing in the 4th and final game of a 4 game road trip.  They lost the first 3 games  to OKC, Toronto and Brooklyn.  They will return home to face the Bucks on Thursday. 

Kristaps Porzingis has missed the last 2 games with a calf injury and is expected to be out for this game as well.  Jrue Holiday also missed the last two games and is questionable for this game.  He did practice on Monday and will be a game time decision.   I expect Al Horford to start at center once again.  If Jrue is unable to play,  Sam Hauser may start or it may be Delano Banton again or even someone else. 

For the Bulls, Zach LaVine is questionable with a foot injury.  He has played in his last 2 games in spite of being listed as questionable for both of them so I'm thinking he is likely to play in this one.  Alex Caruso missed the last game with a toe injury and is questionable for this game.  If Caruso can play, he may return to the starting lineup in place of Patrick Williams.  Lonzo Ball is out for the season with a knee injury. 

Key Matchups
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Derrick White  vs Zach LaVine
LaVine is averaging 22.1 points, 5.1 rebounds, and 3.4 assists.  He is shooting 45.3% from the field and 34.4% from beyond the arc.  Over his career, he has averaged 19.6 points, 4.2 rebounds, and 3.5 assists.  He shot 43.8% from the field and 33.3% from beyond the arc.    LaVine shoots very well from the perimeter and he is also very good at getting to the basket and so the Celtics need to stay with him wherever he is on the court.

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Jaylen Brown vs DeMar DeRozan
DeRozan is playing very well, averaging 21.5 points,3.3 rebounds, 4.5 assists and 1.0 steals per game.  He is shooting 44.8% from the field and 37.3% from beyond the arc.   Over his career against Boston, DeRozan has averaged 21.2 points, 3.7 rebounds and 3.7 assists per game.   He is capable of putting up big numbers and the Celtics need to find a way to slow him down.  They especially need to cover him in the mid range. 

Honorable Mention

Al Horford Nikola Vucevic
Vucevic is averaging 15.8 points, 10.2 rebounds and 3.1 assists per game.  He is shooting 46.0% from the field and 25.4% from beyond the arc.  Over his career against Boston, he averaged 16.4 points, 10.8 rebounds, and 3.1 assists.  He shot 48.4% from the field and 29.9% from beyond the arc.  With Porzingis out, it will fall to Al Horford to try to limit Vucevic inside and keep him off the boards. 

Keys to the Game
Defense -  Defense is always a key to winning.  The Celtics are 4th in the league with a defensive rating of 107.5.  The Bulls are 21st with a defensive rating of 115.2.  The Celtics need to get a strong defensive effort from every player on the court and they need to get back to making defense a priority for all 48 minutes with no slacking off. 

Rebound - The Celtics must box out and crash the boards.  They can't score without the ball and it will take extra effort on their part to beat the Bulls on the boards.  The Celtics are averaging 46.8 rebounds per game, which is 2nd in the league. The Bulls are averaging 40.9 rebounds per game, which is 27th.  The Celtics have to put out more effort to get to the rebounds before the Bulls and give themselves extra possessions and limit those possessions for the Bulls.

Stay Focused - The Celtics need to come in focused and stay focused throughout the game.  They need to focus on their shots and shot selection.  They need to focus on making their free throws as they have had games where they have missed way too many free throws.  They need to focus on playing defense and making the right switches.  They need to focus on making good passes and not turning the ball over as the Bulls are 2nd in the league,  averaging 20.1 points off turnovers per game.  And they need to focus on sharing the ball and making the right play.  Lack of focus results in those horrible shooting nights and high turnover games and they can't afford either of those in this game. 

No Let Up
- Recently, the Celtics have been playing well for much of the game and then for some reason, they let up in the second half to give up big leads and make the game much harder on themselves.  They need to be aggressive and play hard for all 48 minutes and they can't let up.    They especially need to keep their energy and play hard throughout in this game if they hope to win their group for the In Season Tournament. 

X-Factors
Home Game vs Road Game - The Celtics are at home and should get a boost from the home crowd.  They also have the benefit of sleeping in their own beds and playing on a familiar court and not having fatigue from travel.  The Bulls have all the distractions of playing on the road.  This is also the final game of a road trip and that is usually the hardest to win. 

Officiating -  The officiating is always an x-factor.  Sometimes a crew will call the game tight and blow a whistle on every play.  Other times they will let them play and let the game get physical.  The Celtics need to adjust to the way the game is called and not let missed calls or bad calls affect their focus.  If the calls are bad, they just need to play harder to make up for them and not waste time arguing with the officials, especially since complaining usually only makes the refs angry and doesn't change the calls.   

Re: Bulls (5-13) at Celtics (13-4) Game #18 11/28/23
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2023, 09:32:03 PM »

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First?  Go Celtics!

Re: Bulls (5-13) at Celtics (13-4) Game #18 11/28/23
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TP to  Vermont Green    for being the first to post in the game thread!!!!!!!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Celtics!!!!!!!

Beat the Bulls!!!!!!!!!

Re: Bulls (5-13) at Celtics (13-4) Game #18 11/28/23
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2023, 09:35:01 PM »

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Should be an easy W.

The Bulls have been a train wreck this season. No teamwork. No defense. No heart. No hustle. They have been lousy since Lonzo Ball got hurt. Pat Beverley came in and helped ease the loss of Lonzo some late last season. He is gone. Back to where they were before he joined.

Not enough size, length or defense at forward. So a lot of good matchups for Tatum & Jaylen to exploit.

Our defense should do well. CHI are an iso team. DeRozan isos. LaVine isos. No real teamwork. Vucevic tries. The guards do not do their part. Nor do the forwards.

Re: Bulls (5-13) at Celtics (13-4) Game #18 11/28/23
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Kick their behinds  :)

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any update on Holiday? we probably can beat the bulls without him.

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Will anybody else be rooting for a 23+ point win so the C's own the tiebreaker in the IST?  Not me. I'll be rooting for a blowout so the bench gets some run.

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Will anybody else be rooting for a 23+ point win so the C's own the tiebreaker in the IST?  Not me. I'll be rooting for a blowout so the bench gets some run.

Some of us degenerates bet on the Celtics winning the in-season tournament, so we could really use a blowout for personal reasons (and a Nets win).

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any update on Holiday? we probably can beat the bulls without him.

He’s questionable, but I do wonder what happened to him.  He was probable Thursday night for the Orlando game, and then was a surprise downgrade Friday morning and we haven’t seen him since.

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The magic number is 23  :)
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The magic number is 23  :)

23 and 8 more than the Nets win by.

I’m curious what the scores will look like around the NBA tonight.  We’ve never had a situation where so many teams are incentivized not just to win, but to win by a lot.

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The magic number is 23  :)

For clarification, if the C's win by fewer than 23 points they are out of the IST? No wildcard?

If that is the case, I am wildly rooting for a less than 23 point win.  This IST can't get in my rearview mirror soon enough. I am sorry to those who bet on it -- I don't want you to lose -- but seeing the C's go to Vegas and expending high energy in mid-December to win a meaningless tournament is not something I want.  If I were a betting man, the thing I'd bet on is that at least one player is injured in that final game and that the intensity and expenditure of energy causes the 'Final 2' to have a letdown after the IST ends.   Players will want to win it, at least in part due to some extra cash -- but also it will be hyped by the NBA and there will be pride on the line.

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I know this is a game thread but the IST aspect seems to have taken over.  So if we don't win by 23 or whatever, and don't win the group or get a wild card into the quarterfinals, who will we play for the two games?  Do we play against the other teams that didn't make the quarter finals?  In that these games would count towards our regular season record (as I understand it), isn't it better to not make the quarterfinals and then play lesser teams?  It seems like making the quarterfinals and having to play better/hotter teams is not in the overall interest.
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