Draft night for Celtics, what do you do?

[Celtics2021]

Fire Joe ….always

That's not happening tomorrow night you silly goose.

I want a big man. I think we need to replace Grant Williams and Al Horford. I'm good with any of the players that fit that mold.

If we're making fireworks, I want Scoot for Jaylen.

If we’re making fireworks, I want us trading picks for a star, not getting a rookie.  Give me Siakam please.

[boscel33]

Fire Joe ….always

That's not happening tomorrow night you silly goose.

I want a big man. I think we need to replace Grant Williams and Al Horford. I'm good with any of the players that fit that mold.

If we're making fireworks, I want Scoot for Jaylen.

If we stay at 35, this is the guy I want:  Adama Sanogo

He's 6'9" with a 7'3" wingspan.  He improved in all of his college years.  He's the big I have my eyes on! 

[celticinorlando]

My guess is they try to move up but have no success.
they end up picking a draft and stash Euro.

[green_bballers13]

Fire Joe ….always

That's not happening tomorrow night you silly goose.

I want a big man. I think we need to replace Grant Williams and Al Horford. I'm good with any of the players that fit that mold.

If we're making fireworks, I want Scoot for Jaylen.

If we’re making fireworks, I want us trading picks for a star, not getting a rookie.  Give me Siakam please.

1) I think Scoot will be a star, even though he's a rookie. I think he's a better version of Morant without the BS.

2) Siakam is a good player. He's not a star.

[Vermont Green]

If we’re making fireworks, I want us trading picks for a star, not getting a rookie.  Give me Siakam please.

I totally agree with the part about picks.  I don't understand why there are so many ideas that involve trading star or useful players for picks.  It makes no sense.

As for Siakam, I agree, he is an interesting target.  TOR can go two ways here.  VanVleet and Siakam are both 29.  They have a solid young core to potentially build around, Barnes (21), Anunoby (25), Achiuwa (23), Trent (24), and if they resign him, Poeltl (27).  Do they really want to pay a guy like VanVleet big money at this point in his career?

I am having a hard time with the trade machine due to Grant's contract but if he is signed and traded for say $12M, could something like the following work?

Brogdon + Grant + Pritchard
For
Siakam + DJ Wilson

Grant and Pritchard are young players that better match the TOR timeline.  Brogdon is a less expensive and less number of years contract to serve in the bridge role in place of VanVleet.  Someone they could probably flip at the trade deadline for more young players and picks.  The Celtics get a past all-star and all-NBA PF who TOR does not really need plus a potentially useful bench big.  Or maybe Brogdon can go to a 3rd team directly and something more immediate going to TOR.

[SparzWizard]

The last thing the C's need is basically training another rookie player and have them become relevant 3-4 years from now while we basically have prime Tatum and an eventual extended Brown on this team. Heck, that rookie may even be on the trading block by year 3-4 aka Terry Rozier, Romeo Langford, Kelly Olynyk etc. I don't even know JD Davidson will even sniff the floor this year aside from blowout time.

Should just trade the picks for star players and win now.

[Kernewek]

The last thing the C's need is basically training another rookie player and have them become relevant 3-4 years from now while we basically have prime Tatum and an eventual extended Brown on this team. Heck, that rookie may even be on the trading block by year 3-4 aka Terry Rozier, Romeo Langford, Kelly Olynyk etc. I don't even know JD Davidson will even sniff the floor this year aside from blowout time.

Should just trade the picks for star players and win now.

The funny thing about this post is that under this logic you would have traded Tatum to augment Kyrie and Hayward. Teams with consistent success in the NBA have struck a balance between maximising their rosters and not sending out picks unnecessarily.

[Celtics2021]

If we’re making fireworks, I want us trading picks for a star, not getting a rookie.  Give me Siakam please.

I totally agree with the part about picks.  I don't understand why there are so many ideas that involve trading star or useful players for picks.  It makes no sense.

As for Siakam, I agree, he is an interesting target.  TOR can go two ways here.  VanVleet and Siakam are both 29.  They have a solid young core to potentially build around, Barnes (21), Anunoby (25), Achiuwa (23), Trent (24), and if they resign him, Poeltl (27).  Do they really want to pay a guy like VanVleet big money at this point in his career?

I am having a hard time with the trade machine due to Grant's contract but if he is signed and traded for say $12M, could something like the following work?

Brogdon + Grant + Pritchard
For
Siakam + DJ Wilson

Grant and Pritchard are young players that better match the TOR timeline.  Brogdon is a less expensive and less number of years contract to serve in the bridge role in place of VanVleet.  Someone they could probably flip at the trade deadline for more young players and picks.  The Celtics get a past all-star and all-NBA PF who TOR does not really need plus a potentially useful bench big.  Or maybe Brogdon can go to a 3rd team directly and something more immediate going to TOR.

Yes, something like that was what I was thinking.  You can also sub in Gallo instead of Grant for salary purposes if the Raptors don't want to offer Grant something sizable in free agency/they want the deal prior to free agency.  I'm not sure what Toronto's ambition is, but it seems like they're heading for a tear-down, so they'd probably want to move Brogdan elsewhere, but with two years left that could be now or at the deadline and they'd get similar value.  Siakam and Barnes are redundant, however, and all reports indicate they to want to go with Barnes, so I expect Siakam is moved this summer.  I think he's a great fit here at the 4.

[footey]

If we’re making fireworks, I want us trading picks for a star, not getting a rookie.  Give me Siakam please.

I totally agree with the part about picks.  I don't understand why there are so many ideas that involve trading star or useful players for picks.  It makes no sense.

As for Siakam, I agree, he is an interesting target.  TOR can go two ways here.  VanVleet and Siakam are both 29.  They have a solid young core to potentially build around, Barnes (21), Anunoby (25), Achiuwa (23), Trent (24), and if they resign him, Poeltl (27).  Do they really want to pay a guy like VanVleet big money at this point in his career?

I am having a hard time with the trade machine due to Grant's contract but if he is signed and traded for say $12M, could something like the following work?

Brogdon + Grant + Pritchard
For
Siakam + DJ Wilson

Grant and Pritchard are young players that better match the TOR timeline.  Brogdon is a less expensive and less number of years contract to serve in the bridge role in place of VanVleet.  Someone they could probably flip at the trade deadline for more young players and picks.  The Celtics get a past all-star and all-NBA PF who TOR does not really need plus a potentially useful bench big.  Or maybe Brogdon can go to a 3rd team directly and something more immediate going to TOR.

You can't package a sign and trade with other players, can you?

[footey]

I've mentioned this on another thread; I'd trade Horford for Ayton. Salaries match.  Horford fits well with PHX including their timeline.  Ayton gives us a dynamic young big whose contract is high but manageable and tradeable. 

[liam]

I'd be happy with grabbing another early second and ending up with Strawthan and Oscar Tshiebwe. Great shooter/scorer and a great rebounder. A couple of bench specialists.

[Celtics2021]

If we’re making fireworks, I want us trading picks for a star, not getting a rookie.  Give me Siakam please.

I totally agree with the part about picks.  I don't understand why there are so many ideas that involve trading star or useful players for picks.  It makes no sense.

As for Siakam, I agree, he is an interesting target.  TOR can go two ways here.  VanVleet and Siakam are both 29.  They have a solid young core to potentially build around, Barnes (21), Anunoby (25), Achiuwa (23), Trent (24), and if they resign him, Poeltl (27).  Do they really want to pay a guy like VanVleet big money at this point in his career?

I am having a hard time with the trade machine due to Grant's contract but if he is signed and traded for say $12M, could something like the following work?

Brogdon + Grant + Pritchard
For
Siakam + DJ Wilson

Grant and Pritchard are young players that better match the TOR timeline.  Brogdon is a less expensive and less number of years contract to serve in the bridge role in place of VanVleet.  Someone they could probably flip at the trade deadline for more young players and picks.  The Celtics get a past all-star and all-NBA PF who TOR does not really need plus a potentially useful bench big.  Or maybe Brogdon can go to a 3rd team directly and something more immediate going to TOR.

You can't package a sign and trade with other players, can you?

You can.  That’s why Brooklyn sent us Keith Bogans in the KG-Pierce deal.

[liam]

Fire Joe ….always

That's not happening tomorrow night you silly goose.

I want a big man. I think we need to replace Grant Williams and Al Horford. I'm good with any of the players that fit that mold.

If we're making fireworks, I want Scoot for Jaylen.

If we stay at 35, this is the guy I want:  Adama Sanogo

He's 6'9" with a 7'3" wingspan.  He improved in all of his college years.  He's the big I have my eyes on!

I like Tshiebwe over Sanogo. Just a fierce rebounder. Tshiebwe 6′ 7.25” barefoot, 9′ 0.00” standing reach, 253.6 lbs and a 7′ 3.50” wingspan and a 29.5 inch standing vertical and a 32.5′ inch max vertical

[libermaniac]

I've mentioned this on another thread; I'd trade Horford for Ayton. Salaries match.  Horford fits well with PHX including their timeline.  Ayton gives us a dynamic young big whose contract is high but manageable and tradeable.

Horford’s contract for this year is $10 million. Ayton’s is over $32 million.

[theswitch]

Outside of trading Payton for a first rounder if someone wants more of a "sure thing" instead of a flyer on a late-ish first round pick, there's probably too much attention being placed on this. Whoever we get at #35 is a total gamble and we shouldn't count on them to do anything during the push for the next 1-2 seasons.