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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #390 on: March 19, 2023, 09:09:23 AM »

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This kinda reminds me of the last years of Brad coaching .   We have now lost ALL the coaches with real fight in them .   Mazz is another clone of Stevens

Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #391 on: March 19, 2023, 09:52:42 AM »

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Jaylen's Idiotic 8 second violation to end the 3rd
Brogdon's missed FT
Tatum Sucking all game once again
Joe's stupid last play call

and we lose by ONE freaking point....any of those things don't happen and we win.

That's what makes it more frustrating for fans, we made all those mistakes and lost by a point.

When you think back to the playoff run they had several games that were like this and made their run infinitely more difficult.  And yet in a seven game series all they have to Sonia play a game over .500 to win and they absolutely can do that.  It’s just annoying!
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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #392 on: March 19, 2023, 11:44:07 AM »

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It's pretty obvious at this point, but it's sad that defense isn't some "strength" of ours anymore. Even in close games last year where sometimes the offense stagnated, at least we could rely on our defense especially in the 4th quarter of games.

But nowadays, feels like teams have no problem rallying or coming back from a deficit even in the final minutes. And it's too easy for them.

The C's had a 102-95 lead, and then with just 3 minutes to go had a 108-101 lead. The blew those pretty quickly. Then we were up 117-113 with about 80 seconds to go, and just 45 seconds later Utah is up 118-117. Barely any resistance, just easy buckets for Utah to get back into it.

This is the kind of stuff that'll definitely cost us playoff games for sure. And I'm curious to see how Mazzulla handles the criticism from the media/fans when we're actually losing playoff games because of it.
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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #393 on: March 19, 2023, 12:00:21 PM »

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Grant finally has a good game and puts a stain on it with that dispicable final play. We already know by now that he completely wets the bed in clutch time so why was he even out there as a facilitator on a crucial play?? He shouldve kept his happy butt in the corner and used brogdon or JB to initiate the play and use JT as a decoy

He did have a good game offensively, but it seemed like every time he would hit a shot he’d immediately get burnt on the other end.
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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #394 on: March 19, 2023, 12:17:26 PM »

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Grant finally has a good game and puts a stain on it with that dispicable final play. We already know by now that he completely wets the bed in clutch time so why was he even out there as a facilitator on a crucial play?? He shouldve kept his happy butt in the corner and used brogdon or JB to initiate the play and use JT as a decoy

Did anybody ask about that horrific play after the game?  What was Grant supposed to do there?  Taking it up against two talker defenders can’t have been the primary option?


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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #395 on: March 19, 2023, 12:36:03 PM »

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Grant finally has a good game and puts a stain on it with that dispicable final play. We already know by now that he completely wets the bed in clutch time so why was he even out there as a facilitator on a crucial play?? He shouldve kept his happy butt in the corner and used brogdon or JB to initiate the play and use JT as a decoy

Did anybody ask about that horrific play after the game?  What was Grant supposed to do there?  Taking it up against two talker defenders can’t have been the primary option?
Thats my issue with it. Not so much that he made the play he did which was for some reason to drive right into 2 7footers and eat a complete Wilsonburger, but the fact that Joe designed an ATO play for basically the worst player on the court who struggles handling the ball and driving to the hoop. There's no way you put Grant in that position
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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #396 on: March 19, 2023, 12:45:02 PM »

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Grant finally has a good game and puts a stain on it with that dispicable final play. We already know by now that he completely wets the bed in clutch time so why was he even out there as a facilitator on a crucial play?? He shouldve kept his happy butt in the corner and used brogdon or JB to initiate the play and use JT as a decoy

Did anybody ask about that horrific play after the game?  What was Grant supposed to do there?  Taking it up against two talker defenders can’t have been the primary option?
Thats my issue with it. Not so much that he made the play he did which was for some reason to drive right into 2 7footers and eat a complete Wilsonburger, but the fact that Joe designed an ATO play for basically the worst player on the court who struggles handling the ball and driving to the hoop. There's no way you put Grant in that position

Joe can say all he wants that the play was designed for Grant to hand off to Tatum or Brown, but Tatum was all the way in the backcourt and never moved, and Brown was stationed on the other side of the floor and didn't move either. It was either drive, shoot, or try a tough pass to Hauser in the corner. Those were Grant's options.

Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #397 on: March 19, 2023, 01:52:00 PM »

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Btw, the Celtics were 26-0 when shooting better than 40% from 3, and 22-22 when below 40%

Yesterday was the first loss though when shooting 40%+ from 3 (they shot 43%). Now 26-1

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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #398 on: March 19, 2023, 02:52:57 PM »

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Lets hope for a good effort vs the Kings on tuesday to somewhat salvage a tough end of season west coast trip. 4-2 wouldnt be the worst but when u look at the way they lost the 2 games they did this easily couldve been 5-0 right now going into game 6 of the trip
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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #399 on: March 19, 2023, 03:03:41 PM »

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All this postgame talk about trusting your best player to make a play is nice, but Jaylen Brown shot fairly well in this game. Why not run something with Tatum off ball to occupy the defense and try to get Brown a shot in the mid-range where he's been a killer?

Unbelievable. Just no in-game awareness whatsoever. Tatum has looked like crap since the ASB, and tonight a lot of it wasn't even his fault because they were legitimately double teaming him almost every time down the court.

But you expect him to make the play in that situation, when he just screwed us over the previous two possessions with awful shots that didn't go in? Just mind-numbingly dumb. So green and incompetent and not fit to be an NBA coach, let alone the Celtics.

Hate to say it but this kind of stuff is also how you can alienate Jaylen from the C’s.

And sorry to bring it up, but again, in last years Finals Jaylen was the one who showed up while Tatum laid a huge egg.

The warriors make it work with Steph and Klay but Kerr and the organization regards Klay very highly still and trust him in those clutch moments. Mazz for whatever reason doesn’t seem to trust Jaylen in these spots even in games where Jaylen is better than Tatum

I’m not sure that’s true. Wasn’t it just the other game that they ran a last second play for JAylen for a layup thst missed?

Sometimes we think that players are just automatically going to be open…the other team is going to be all over your gun players like a rash, especially someone like hardy who probably knows e a of what Jaylen and jaysons tendencies are, do they go their right or left, do they take 3 steps forward and 2 steps back etc.

but end of day Joe gets paid the big bucks to develop plays to outsmart the opposition, and the players get paid to execute and we judge them by results. And during the playoffs it could go down to one or two plays

Do you mean the Rockets game? Because that was Tatum who whiffed on two layups late in a game Jaylen scored 43

But honestly we’ll see. I’m not feeling too good about the coach regardless. He seems clueless on what his rotations are, when to call timeouts, and his explanations and reasoning for stuff is also mindboggling. “Layups are harder than 3s” please  ::)

And Mazz can keep talking about the “margins” but guess what, they continue to suck in that category too


Just looking at the replay of thst last play again, I didn’t see much movement from Jayson at the top of the key or jaylen in the corner. So maybe they are using Tatum as a decoy at the top..but The jazz switched with markannen going on to GWill from defending Brogdon so it gave GWill an opening to catch the ball in the paint. So hardy was able to manipulate our play to force GWill to make a play at the rim which wasn’t his strength

Now think about that. Some posters on here and Hardy understand what to do, but Mazzulla himself can’t adjust or prepare for the adjustment and then postgame says “yeah he ran the opposite way”

I mean boy… 10 games left in the season and we’re reeling  :(

Still 10 games to go, put the razor away til at least the first round buddy  :police:

I’m just curious- does what you do for a living involve any degree of speculation? Because it’s more than just your typical overreacters and doom & groomers who are trending toward pessimism.

I could be way off base here, but you seem like you might tell people they are overreacting until they are very possibly proven right, but then move on very quickly from that fact and mainly focus on the off-season and following year.
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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #400 on: March 19, 2023, 03:28:05 PM »

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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #401 on: March 19, 2023, 03:47:40 PM »

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Grant finally has a good game and puts a stain on it with that dispicable final play. We already know by now that he completely wets the bed in clutch time so why was he even out there as a facilitator on a crucial play?? He shouldve kept his happy butt in the corner and used brogdon or JB to initiate the play and use JT as a decoy

Did anybody ask about that horrific play after the game?  What was Grant supposed to do there?  Taking it up against two talker defenders can’t have been the primary option?
Thats my issue with it. Not so much that he made the play he did which was for some reason to drive right into 2 7footers and eat a complete Wilsonburger, but the fact that Joe designed an ATO play for basically the worst player on the court who struggles handling the ball and driving to the hoop. There's no way you put Grant in that position

Joe can say all he wants that the play was designed for Grant to hand off to Tatum or Brown, but Tatum was all the way in the backcourt and never moved, and Brown was stationed on the other side of the floor and didn't move either. It was either drive, shoot, or try a tough pass to Hauser in the corner. Those were Grant's options.

Yeah, People blaming Grant didn't watch the replay..he had no choice. Only 5 seconds on the clock--maybe he could have shot a floater? nobody was open, cause they all just stood there. Blame Joe for not having White in the game.
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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #402 on: March 19, 2023, 04:06:31 PM »

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Muscala barely plays but even when he did last night, things looked noticeably better as Muscala hit some shots (8 points) and was actually one of our best rebounders in his short stint.

Instead we opted to go with Kornet most of the 4th  ::)

And don't let the 7 rebounds fool you, Kornet should have had more than 11 but he either froze or didn't grab the board while Utah players are hustling around him to grab it. He didn't grab any critical boards in the 4th when we truly needed it. A 7'2" guy that practically looks like a stationary lamp post out there
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« Reply #403 on: March 19, 2023, 04:18:35 PM »

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Muscala barely plays but even when he did last night, things looked noticeably better as Muscala hit some shots (8 points) and was actually one of our best rebounders in his short stint.

Instead we opted to go with Kornet most of the 4th  ::)

And don't let the 7 rebounds fool you, Kornet should have had more than 11 but he either froze or didn't grab the board while Utah players are hustling around him to grab it. He didn't grab any critical boards in the 4th when we truly needed it. A 7'2" guy that practically looks like a stationary lamp post out there
This really infuriates me. White and Moose are both good players who Mazz benches all the time. His rotations are very dumb sometimes. His stubbornness in the face of evidence reminds me of CBS at the end of his coaching tenure.
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Re: Celtics (49-22) at Jazz (33-36) Game #72 3/18/23
« Reply #404 on: March 19, 2023, 04:21:07 PM »

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Muscala barely plays but even when he did last night, things looked noticeably better as Muscala hit some shots (8 points) and was actually one of our best rebounders in his short stint.

Instead we opted to go with Kornet most of the 4th  ::)

And don't let the 7 rebounds fool you, Kornet should have had more than 11 but he either froze or didn't grab the board while Utah players are hustling around him to grab it. He didn't grab any critical boards in the 4th when we truly needed it. A 7'2" guy that practically looks like a stationary lamp post out there
This really infuriates me. White and Moose are both good players who Mazz benches all the time. His rotations are very dumb sometimes. His stubbornness in the face of evidence reminds me of CBS at the end of his coaching tenure.

Yeah, the White thing has been going on for some time, but the whole Moose thing now is just as infuriating. Especially last night when Kornet was getting abused, why you don’t go to Moose there is beyond me, who was actually playing well and seemingly holding his own on the boards unlike Kornet.